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The standard PIE on DCD's 2.10 ROM (or any stock ROM, for that matter) is horrendously unstable. The 'download' constantly stalls out when doing speed tests and other sites load formatted in ways that make everything unreadable.
Opera Mini (Beta 4v2) is the absolute opposite. 2.2Mbps+ on all speed tests, stable downloads, 110% flawless page formatting... it just can't play videos. Is there any middle ground available? I'd take a slightly less 'Opera' browser, as long as it was stable and played videos. Is there anything like this?
install HTC Streaming Media and/or Flash Video Bundle and youtube will work
gcincotta said:
install HTC Streaming Media and/or Flash Video Bundle and youtube will work
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On Opera? I can play YouTube videos when I run PIE, but it's still so slow and choppy. Not the videos themselves, but any site I go to on PIE.
which opera you use? Because I use opera mini but cannot play you tune video.
I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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How can I make my ppc show me youtube's videos??
U could also try the program Vtap, works great for me on my mogul, and its free. I like it better than using PIE and TCPMP although they are both good solutions.
killerkhatiby009 said:
U could also try the program Vtap, works great for me on my mogul, and its free. I like it better than using PIE and TCPMP although they are both good solutions.
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I need a player which play all my files, not only what it can find on the net...
skyfire is a new player that is said will play youtube as if you're working on a computer, but its still on beta version and its still not out yet but skyfire is sending some to testers... so its ur chance to try to get one
We are all stuck waiting for Skyfire for full browsing on a cell.
Vtap is Broken
I keep getting a Green Screen anytime I try to watch a video? Anyone have any idea whats going on??? Thanks.
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The standard PIE on DCD's 2.10 ROM (or any stock ROM, for that matter) is horrendously unstable. The 'download' constantly stalls out when doing speed tests and other sites load formatted in ways that make everything unreadable.
Opera Mini (Beta 4v2) is the absolute opposite. 2.2Mbps+ on all speed tests, stable downloads, 110% flawless page formatting... it just can't play videos. Is there any middle ground available? I'd take a slightly less 'Opera' browser, as long as it was stable and played videos. Is there anything like this?
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When will you people learn...
You can't test your speed on Opera Mini! I promise you, you are NOT getting 2.2Mpbs+ speeds on your phone consistently.
Opera Mini is not a real web browser. The way it works is when you click on a web page, Opera downloads the page to its servers first. Then, it takes a look at the page, and takes a picture of it, taking note of where all the links appear. It then sends this "image" + link information to your phone which displays in the opera mini browser. This method is so much faster than a regular browser because your phone doesn't have to download all the information and doesn't have to do any of the processing to render the page. (This also, by the way, introduces all sorts of security questions because this is being rendered on someone else's computer before it comes to you. In other words, don't use opera mini to do your banking)
when you do a speed test, you're not seeing the speed of your phone's connection. You're seeing the speed in which Opera's server is connected to the internet, and then seeing that result as a picture sent to your phone!
In fact, the opera mini experience is the same on a high-end PDA phone as it is on a simple little nokia from 5 years ago (speed of the phone is irrelevant, its just viewing images).
Case and point- browsing on an GSM nokia 6230 using EDGE (non-3G) is not noticeably slower than browsing on a Mogul with EVDO Rev A, and both reported over 2MBps in speed tests (EDGE averages around 100kbps).
Basically, this system is ideal for web browsing like the desktop. However, it can't do any pages that require client-side processing, since your phone is not doing any of the processing. For example, pages with real-time interaction, javascript games, and especially flash animation and/or video (such as youtube) would not work under this model.
There ARE browsers that are capable of this, such as NetFront and the upcoming SkyFire, but you will most likely end up with the same laggy experience as IE because you are back to using the phone's CPU to process and render the data.
Bottom Line: What you are asking for is not out there because the concepts are worlds apart (opera mini + flash video). Using TCPMP and the flash video bundle work flawlessy for me, might want to check out the latest versions of that.
Generally, I've found that there is not perfect browser for everything (yet). I use Opera mini for regular browsing of large pages, Picsel for secure pages (such as sprint.com account information), IE for mobile-access pages (such as the mobile accuweather) and for flash video using the bundle. I used to use NetFront for pages with flash and java interaction, but I actually found it too slow and clunky for regular use. The tcpmp video bundle works much better, so I removed NetFront.
Good luck, I hope this helped someone understand the situation better!
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Look... IE is the only thing you can find atm that is close to being full featured. The problem is on some of these roms it just plain does not have the memory to operate. NexVisions is one of them. Open just about any page and is 1mg of ram left. Other then IE you are forced to mix it up with other browsers until Skiyfire comes out.
So has anyone tested the Skyfire beta?
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I'm actually really happy with TCPMP (core media player) and the flashvideobundle plugin. youtube videos launch almost immediately and stream perfectly.
Not sure if it works with opera mini, but it works with PIE. Also, make sure your "view" settings on PIE are not set to "column". I found that "desktop" allows screen formating most like PC, but some sites do work well on "fit to screen"
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how are you getting this to work? i have tcpmp and the FlashVideoBundle.cab but youtube videos try to open in WMP, which gives an "unknown error" error
if i force it to open in tcpmp it says the rtsp protocal is not supported
using opera mobile reporting as a desktop browser youtube doesnt even open, it just crashes the browser, i cant get PIE to report itself as anything other than PIE (so it always goes to youtube mobile)
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So has anyone tested the Skyfire beta?
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I have it. It shows a lot of promise but it's still early (version # is .5). Video is pretty choppy even over WiFi. It's one of the things they're trying to polish before release.
Make sure you are using TCPMP version 0.72RC1, and make sure you don't have any other flash plugins installed except the flashvideobundle.
I have both installed to my device memory (not memory card).
that's it really. I can go to youtube.com in PIE, tap on a video, and a little menu pops up asking if you want to play or save the video. just tap "play" and the video starts playing within a couple of seconds, and its very smooth.
This is my YouTube search/player application. Bit like the latest CorePlayer.
It allows you to search for videos in a nice friendly Pocket PC 2003 and greater app and then stream the full FLV video (not miniscule MPEG4 versions) within its own player.
This app can also download the FLV videos for offline use and also then extract the soundtrack to an MP3 file.
The app is written in a mixture of .net and C so you need the .net runtime, v2 or v3.5:
http://www.microsoft.com/downloads/...49-3c6b-42f1-9fd9-0041345b3385&displaylang=en
The video player overlay is hacked out of TCPMP and the FLV part is based on FFMPEG.
....CHANGELOG....
youtubeplay v1.0.0.11 updated 24/11/08, changes:
New - Fully works on Pocket PC 2003 now, found the horrid bug that stopped it
New - Will open and play VP6 (On2) FLV files, slow but should work
New - Uses newer version of FFMPEG SVN from a few days ago
Fix - Fullscreen should work if you start in landscape mode now
youtubeplay v1.0.0.10 updated 11/11/08, changes:
New - Added the facility to extract the audio as an MP3 from any saved FLV
Fix - HTC Streaming Media option should now work again
NOTE - I have now removed any efforts at getting this to work on devices with less than WM5, just wouldn't work.
youtubeplay v1.0.0.9 updated 27/10/08, changes:
Fix - "Failed to get security cookie" message, this was caused by YouTube changes. I have now entirely changed the way this bit works so that it is more like the flash player and should be a bit more resiliant to changes.
Fix - May work on Pocket PC 2003 devices again, please test.
youtubeplay v1.0.0.8 updated 10/10/08, changes:
Fix - -3 play error, which was caused by internal YouTube changes and some bad code!
youtubeplay v1.0.0.7 updated 12/5/08, changes:
Fix - Crash when switching to play video (problem on Kaiser ROM "Mobile Vista v1.3" and maybe others)
New - Added AppToDate support - had to change download location to my server
Fix - Can now reliably retrieve up to 50 results
New - Reverted config and results forms back to non fullscreen to enable SIP and menu
New - Hardware keys - dpad up/down = vol up/down, dpad right = ffwd, dpad left = back
youtubeplay v1.0.0.6 updated 8/5/08, changes:
New - All YouTube feeds now available
New - Related videos
New - Associate youtubeplay with FLV files
youtubeplay v1.0.0.5 updated 7/5/08, changes:
New - Added Save functionality
New - Added AV offset config setting to tweak lip sync
New - Added config setting to alter fullscreen rotation
New - Version number displayed in config screen
Fix - Landscape fullscreen now should be the right way round
youtubeplay v1.0.0.4 updated 7/5/08, changes:
New - Full screen application now - more space
New - Removed horrible toolbars, buttons back
New - VGA, QVGA, Portrait and landscape support
New - Config screen
New - Option to play smaller MP4 version of videos in HTC Streaming Media application
New - Buffer size configuration option
New - Option to set number of videos returned
New - Click on the search button again to get more results for same search
New - Load FLV video from file option
New - Made smaller
New - Video overlay set to GDI - better on Kaiser
Fix - Better error handling
Fix - numerous small fixes
youtubeplay updated 16/4/08, changes:
New black look
Removed buttons, added toolbar
VGA portrait support (only testing in emulator)
Click on video for fullscreen
Backlight keepalive
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Things planned: Support for YouTube logons, video uploads, user favorites and better caching/buffering.
Things not planned: Other video sites.
Known issues: Square mode not quite right. Other character sets (Chinese etc.) don't work apparently. Close button sometimes takes a few pushes.
Everybody should note that this application will eat bandwidth, no consideration has been made for data consumed, so Wifi/ActiveSync or unlimited 3g only, be prepared for a big data bill otherwise. Won't work well on GPRS anyway as FLV vids are quite sizeable.
Download Latest Version (v1.0.0.11) from here
Comments / suggestions welcome.
Great! I'll give it a go.
CG
Works Really good, great work. Its really smooth and easy to use.Good job.
WOW! GReat App!
May I make a request? Anyway you can make the "skin" a black color by any chance? My entire phone is customized to be in a dark tone and the white just looks very out of whack. Thank you very much for such a great app! Keep it up!
Great!!! I can't play with Coreplayer on my prophet, but this rocks! Wheel done, man. Thanks
uau
What can i say .....
Finaly i can see the real thing
Your the best.
It just shuts down as soon as it buffers the video for me. It searches just fine and all, but right after buffering it closes itself. Tried a soft reset, but no change.
On a side note, would this be able to function as a stand alone FLV player? So that we could download FLV clips off the web, save them on the storage card and watch them later? I've tried the TCPMP w/ flash plugin solution but it never works for me.
Very nice.
Can I make a few suggestions - Can the buttons be made larger and more finger-friendly, can the soft keys either be used for something or left out, and I dont think the d-pad does anything when the video is playing.
Also can the buttons be made rounder instead of square.
Surur
Great work. I would definitely like to see a Save Video function too though...
//Nik
Can someone upload this to the forum please?
Very Nice
Already a regular program! would also love to see a download feature!
sounds interesting...gonna try out soon
Will this work if we are connecting to the internet via Proxy? I use tmobile..
Works well but one thing i've noticed is that when I search it doesn't give me that many options. Like i type in "Ric Flair" and it only gives me 4 videos to choose from. Obviously there are alot more than that, unless im doing something wrong.
Please upload to the forum... only 600Kb
bugs?
awesome program! a few things though, i'm running this on a sprint mogul, no2chem 2.0 ROM, when i play the video in landscape mode the video starts towards the bottom of the screen and blocks the 'stop/full/cancel' buttons, i have to close the video by just poking in the general direction of where i THINK the stop button is...
also another suggestion, perhaps an option for more search results, right now i'm pulling only 4 or so and i would like to be able to get every video that's available.
besides that, this is an awesome program, thank you!!!
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Works well but one thing i've noticed is that when I search it doesn't give me that many options. Like i type in "Ric Flair" and it only gives me 4 videos to choose from. Obviously there are alot more than that, unless im doing something wrong.
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same problem here, but great app though
dogbeef said:
awesome program! a few things though, i'm running this on a sprint mogul, no2chem 2.0 ROM, when i play the video in landscape mode the video starts towards the bottom of the screen and blocks the 'stop/full/cancel' buttons, i have to close the video by just poking in the general direction of where i THINK the stop button is...
also another suggestion, perhaps an option for more search results, right now i'm pulling only 4 or so and i would like to be able to get every video that's available.
besides that, this is an awesome program, thank you!!!
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Still early version, literally just it going today!
Landscape mode and VGA are next on the list for testing and fixing.
Currently it is set to return only 5 results, just to make it quick! Will include some config options in the next few versions to change this.
Download function - noted, might also be able to include FLV to other format conversion.
Skins and finger friendly buttons etc. again noted but low on the priority list.
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It just shuts down as soon as it buffers the video for me. It searches just fine and all, but right after buffering it closes itself. Tried a soft reset, but no change.
On a side note, would this be able to function as a stand alone FLV player? So that we could download FLV clips off the web, save them on the storage card and watch them later? I've tried the TCPMP w/ flash plugin solution but it never works for me.
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What device?
mrmikemcguire said:
Will this work if we are connecting to the internet via Proxy? I use tmobile..
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May work, why not give it a try. You may find the search works but playing doesn't.
Everybody should note that this application will eat bandwidth, no consideration has been made for data consumed, so Wifi/ActiveSync or unlimited 3g only, be prepared for a big data bill otherwise. Won't work well on GPRS anyway as FLV vids are quite sizeable.
Hello all,
As maybe some know, Adobe's Flash player in Android has a feature. The object doesn't activate if it is not in focus (or maybe touched?). This seems to be a security or battery performance related improvement as Adobe puts it.. However, it is really annoying.. Because;
You can't listen to most of the radio stations, or playlists even, if you send them to background. I love to listen to some of my favorite music while reading the daily news.. As many other have pointed out in the following threads:
Thread ID: 854896, 672639, 543354, 489142
I am writing this question here, as this is an Android Flash player implementation issue and this behaviour is by design. There may be many ways to modify the Flash player, or modify the browser to make the Flash Player act as if it is in the foreground even if it is not..
So can anyone work on this? Or maybe we can submit some kind of CR to CyanogenMod issue list? Better yet, how can we submit this problem to Adobe's developers/designers?
Or maybe a hacker has already read this and has solved it already
Thanks a lot..
Maybe this works on other (Sense?) phones, but I know this worked on my 3.29 stock rooted Evo. In the browser you can hit menu > windows and then open a new window, and then close the new window. Now you will still be in the windows view, but are "hovering" above the window you have your Flash content in. Now you should be able to hit the home button and do other things.
I would suggest just using a real music player/radio app.....
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I would suggest just using a real music player/radio app.....
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x2... I think most, (if not all) standalone music/radio apps will run happily along in the background.
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x2... I think most, (if not all) standalone music/radio apps will run happily along in the background.
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True, but most (if not all) standalone music/radio apps won't play arbitrary flash content online.
I know somebody who likes to listen to a particular TV program, and typically networks only make these available via flash. I'm sure if he works at it he can extract the audio on a computer or find it on a torrent or something, but it would be nice if this were at least an option.
Of course, compared to a normal app I imagine it would suck down a lot more power.
I've found a way to have a Flash webpage running on the background without needing to hack Flash Player on ICS. I stumbled across an unadvertised "feature" of the Dual Screen Browser app by Curry Cat v2.1.
All you have to do is launch the Dual Screen browser, do a google search for the flash web page you want, and once the audio starts playing just hit the OS Home button and the audio keeps playing in the background. It blew my mind.
The device I got this working on is a stock ASUS Transformer TF101 w/ ICS (v4.0.3)
Dual Screen Browser has a bunch of FC and seems to be heavily reliant on the stock browser some how. If you get FC when trying to launch it try the following:
Open stock Browser, press OS Home button, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Turn internet connection off, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Dual Screen Browser appears to be better optimized for flash/html5 video playback in portrait mode. I had two flash videos playing at the same time on each screen without much of a performance hit.
When in landscape mode pick the left most screen. It plays movies better without cutting off part of it.
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I've found a way to have a Flash webpage running on the background without needing to hack Flash Player on ICS. I stumbled across an unadvertised "feature" of the Dual Screen Browser app by Curry Cat v2.1.
All you have to do is launch the Dual Screen browser, do a google search for the flash web page you want, and once the audio starts playing just hit the OS Home button and the audio keeps playing in the background. It blew my mind.
The device I got this working on is a stock ASUS Transformer TF101 w/ ICS (v4.0.3)
Dual Screen Browser has a bunch of FC and seems to be heavily reliant on the stock browser some how. If you get FC when trying to launch it try the following:
Open stock Browser, press OS Home button, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Turn internet connection off, then relaunch Dual Screen Browser
Dual Screen Browser appears to be better optimized for flash/html5 video playback in portrait mode. I had two flash videos playing at the same time on each screen without much of a performance hit.
When in landscape mode pick the left most screen. It plays movies better without cutting off part of it.
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Wow, I even forgot that I asked this question. But your solution seems very promising. Well, I'd still like to see HTML5 work in the background to (for the obvious reason that I want to play a youtube playlist while screen off ) Well if I'd have to install a separate app, I think there are other players that does this already.
Thanks anyways.. (Sorry for the late response)
I am using "nextvid" to play youtube videos on the backgroud, no need for hacking it does it by default( free app)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=Nextvid.mobile.player&hl=pt_PT
Hello guys
Every time I want to watch something in YouTube and we I click on the video that I want it show different one. I do factory reset and still the same
Anyone can help
Thanks
I know this is an old topic, but I recently got a tab and I'm finding the same issue. I've searched this here internet, but I can't find an answer anywhere.
Symptoms:
It doesn't happen on every video - sometimes I can go 5 or 6 vids without a problem.
When it does happen, it's basically like this - I select a video, and Youtube shows me some other video. The most common ones are:
a grainy boxing video
a clip from a Rob Schneider movie
some guy loading a machine gun
a group of women doing aerobics;
Others include
a baby watching TV
2 hot girls dancing
2 hot girls kissing
I can get rid of them by hitting the 'back' arrow and then re-clicking the video I wanted. It works the 2nd time.
Additional info:
There's no repeatable pattern. I can select the same video on different occasions - sometimes the problem happens and sometimes it doesn't.
Just in the last couple of weeks, I was seeing the same with the Youtube app on my android phone (a flashed Captivate). I uninstalled Youtube (which didn't remove it completely - just reverted to an earlier version) and the problem disappeared.
As there's no option to uninstall Youtube on the tab, I tried flashing a ROM to see if that would help (Starburst). It didn't make any difference - I'm still getting the problem.
It only happens within the Youtube app. If I watch a Youtube video via the browser, the problem doesn't happen.
Anybody have any ideas?
Thanks everyone
Ok so I've had the S3 since yesterday and needless to say its a pretty incredible piece of kit.
However I've encountered two problems I can't get around;
1. I can't seem to get my music player onto the lock screen to easily change track, I've tried a variety of players but none seem to take over the lock screen no matter what settings are used? Anyone know a fix?
2. Whenever I use the internet on my phone using desktop mode or any internet browser, when trying to watch videos other than on Youtube I always get the "You need Flash" instead of the video, I never had this problem on my Note...
Are there any quick fixes to this? I don't want to root my device...
For 2) it's probably a case of you needing to go the Play Store and downloading Adobe Flash
Sent from my CM9 TouchPad
Haha
I would have thought by the fact i'd posted here it would have been assumed Id already downloaded Flash .
I have Adobe Flash Player 11 with the fix for ICS, however playing videos I could on my Note just isn't happening on the S3 and i'm not sure why!
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I would have thought by the fact i'd posted here it would have been assumed Id already downloaded Flash .
I have Adobe Flash Player 11 with the fix for ICS, however playing videos I could on my Note just isn't happening on the S3 and i'm not sure why!
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If there are videos with commercials, it can be that the popup blocker of the browser blocks them.
It happened to me too just because the website I tried, needed to have the commercials downloaded first before it could start the playback.
Are you using the same browser on both phones?
About the first problem it works ok for me so i really dont know. (stock music player)
the above two problems are not major!! i will tell you a major problem and that is an auto focus issue while recording video looses its focus and moves too and fro awkwardly video help help!
I have the same problem as number 1: The stock music player on the galaxy s3 does not appear to have any control on the lockscreen. It's strange because on my Galaxy S it works perfectly.. Anybody have ideas on how to resolve the issue, without going to 3rd party apps/widgets?
It's annoying but at least you can pull down the notification bar and get it there.
Also the headphones do volume but not tracks... F'n annoying.
I find the music player a bit ****, wish I had access to Google Play Music from 4.0.
The only way is pull down the notification bar
Mikeashford20 said:
Ok so I've had the S3 since yesterday and needless to say its a pretty incredible piece of kit.
However I've encountered two problems I can't get around;
2. Whenever I use the internet on my phone using desktop mode or any internet browser, when trying to watch videos other than on Youtube I always get the "You need Flash" instead of the video, I never had this problem on my Note...
Are there any quick fixes to this? I don't want to root my device...
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In order for you to play the videos using the browser, you need to switch back to android mode(phone mode), the flash player, especially the adobe one, do not support desktop mode.
To sort it, you need a flash player that supports desktop mode which i don't know if there is already existing app like that.
So, there is no way to get it working properly, only notification bar? That's weak..
Btw. I have also problems with flash. Youtube works fine but sometimes it just keeps loading and doesn't play ( from the internet browser). What's the deal with all these issues, I thought SG3 will be flawless..
I wanted to follow up on this, I find the music player extremely annoying. The headphones not changing track I can live with for the time being.
Any solution on how to access the on screen music player besides the notification bar from the lock screen?