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app2sd vs link2sd?
link2sd, you can keep application on intern storage, so you can unplug µsd card
Blouw73 said:
link2sd, you can keep application on intern storage, so you can unplug µsd card
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yes, but the linked apps might get messed up, if you pull the µsd card out, while the phone is turned on. better do that when your phone is turned off.
link2sd
Once app2sd is installed, every app gets installed to SD. With link2sd, you only move apps of your choice to sd.
I chose to leave Titanium Backup, Root Explorer and Fancy Widget in system memory. Every other app I moved to SD.
Link2sd
Edit: It is an application so you just install it like any other .apk (and with your ext* partition). You can choice the applications you want to link to your sd
I'd installed App2SD before seeing link2sd appeared around the internet.
I have no intention of reverting everything just for the sake of link2sd since both working the same principle only that link2sd have the option to choose which app to install where..
However, all my apps specially titanium backup, root explorer, fancy widget and etc are running fine even they all were installed in the sdcard. All I do is assuming I have that extra storage by default(app2sd installed) and leave it anonymously in the background.
This is just based on my experience and Opinion.
Link2SD hassle free, user configurable.
App2SD hassle to install, all apps are moved to SD(not user configurable)
Link2sd, no doubt
I prefer Link2SD !
Before I've trying to install app2sd but when I reboot (I use a class 2 SDcard ><') my home doesn't launch and my phone was unusable because of the forceclosed of Launcherpro... But now with Link2SD I let my home on the phone and link all the other applications
Finally Link2SD is a software ! you can remove it easier and safer than app2SD
Link2sd , without hesitation .
link2sd, I need to have the choice
Prefer Link2SD,have choice on my side.
another argument here: Link2SD can move apk and dex files only. Data folders remains on the phone. you will notice that the more apps you install, even though you move them to ext*, your internal storage will eventually get smaller.
App2sd moves everything, so you will save more space that way.
preference then. if you need more internal space, go for app2sd. if you need some apps on the internal storage like i do (widgets, utility tools like root explorer, call meter, poweramp), use Link2sd.
I use link2sd and it works well. I know on my phone storage is such an annoyance. So I am quite happy to use it.
I have a couple questions for you all.
I had the fat partition of my card become unreadable by my phone but the ext was fine but trying to reformat the fat partition I messed up the ext partition because without being able to mount the sd through the phone I could not get the computer to recognize it correctly to use a program like EASUS Partition Master and fearing regular windows format would kill both so I tried the phones format and it did the whole card too...a shame.
Is there an easy way to back up the fat and ext partition of your sd cards?
What is the highest class card that makes a difference on performance of apps?
When a card is linked to sd and data is still on phone is the cache as well and is there program that can link caches to sd card or something like that?
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another argument here: Link2SD can move apk and dex files only. Data folders remains on the phone. you will notice that the more apps you install, even though you move them to ext*, your internal storage will eventually get smaller.
App2sd moves everything, so you will save more space that way.
preference then. if you need more internal space, go for app2sd. if you need some apps on the internal storage like i do (widgets, utility tools like root explorer, call meter, poweramp), use Link2sd.
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This is just my opinion regarding the app2sd and link2sd.
I think the argument is like more on a performance vs space argument,
though link2sd only move apk and dex, since data is on a fast storage. the performance will not be affected.
I think you will not benefit much on app2sd, performance wise if you are using class 4 or lower sd. and might even force close application on class 2.
its not likely you'll install 90 to 100+ apps on your phone anyway.
but in end, its still a matter of preference.
no doubt , link2sd better
if you use like 80+ apps
i recommend apps2sd for 1 reason
backup and restore using apps like MyBackup pro is done easily by only one touch
BackUp app with Astro BackUp Manager and Link2SD functionary like a charm.
both apps are awesome but for my needs, link2sd is more practical......
Hi guys. I received my DX2 as an upgrade from the DX. Now I have sdcard and sdcard-ext. This is really throwing my app setting into disarray. For example: when I attempt to do a backup of my go launcher ex settings it will backup into sdcard-ext (i believe) but when I try to restore it will only do so from an older backup from sd card. How can I bring order to this??
corz123 said:
Hi guys. I received my DX2 as an upgrade from the DX. Now I have sdcard and sdcard-ext. This is really throwing my app setting into disarray. For example: when I attempt to do a backup of my go launcher ex settings it will backup into sdcard-ext (i believe) but when I try to restore it will only do so from an older backup from sd card. How can I bring order to this??
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The Big problem is MOTO calls both internal storage & externel
storage sdcard. (sdcard& sdcard-ext)Then throw in a CD-rom
partition (part of internal storage) & and you have a perfect
storm leading to lots of confusion.
Our phone has the following, according to VZW and Moto:
- 8GB of internal storage. This breaks down as 2 GB secure memory and 6 GB of usable memory.
- 8GB of external storage which refers to the removable SD card behind the battery.
In the 2 GB lives the Android system files and installed applications with most of their associated data. Some programs are accustomed to using the "sd card" which I will get back to in a minute. You can look at the status of this 2 GB in 2 different ways: 1. Settings - Storage - Application storage, "Available Space"; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - All - Application Storage (on the bottom of the screen).
The 6 GB can be viewed by: 1. Settings - Storage - Internal Storage; 2. Settings - Applications - Storage Use - Media Area.
When you move things to the Media area, you are taking a portion of the installed app from the 2GB and moving it to the 6GB, which is similar to the way in tho older phones, you moved apps to the SD card. So, the question is why do we move apps to the SD card? In older phones there was far less "internal storage" and you would literally run low on memory for apps. New phones have much more space, so unless you are installing lots and lots of apps, it shouldn't be a problem.
With our phone, they have included internal, hard wired, SD Card-like storage, which can be used, mounted/unmounted, just like an external SD Card. The Media Area is simply a folder on this remaining 6 GB area. In some cases, this is automatically done by some apps, for backup purposes or caches.
Hope this helps
The issue is that since I'm using the SD card that I used for my droid x I seem to have 2 partitions on it. One that was created by the DX2. Now half my apps think that the old dx partition is where they should put data. So how can I merge the two so that my entire SD card is 1 entity?
So my setup is currently
internal 2gb/internal storage/sd card (dx)/sd ext (dx2)
corz123
I would just connect phone to computer copy
everything from sd-card to computer.
Then delete, format sd-card, copy
everything you need back to sd-card.
Hope This Helps
hi that sounds like a good idea. so if I do that will it be formatted as sd or sdext? i read some threads that mentioned that if its sdext (dx2) that some apps wont be able to detect it or save settings.
also i'm using a rom (eclipse) does that make a difference?
corz123,
It will be the ext sd-card. Motorola calls the Internal storage
sd-card and the removeable 8gb card ext sd-card confusing I know.
(See my previous post)
You should avoid loading programs on removeable sd-card (ext sd-card)
I only put picture's, movie's, music, and doc's etc on removeable sd-card.
Most program's won't work very well or not at all when loaded on ext
sd-card.
Hope this Helps.
Use the thanks button when someone helps you. (ITS FREE) and Its just nice to see
did motorola change their setup? I had a droid x and i don't believe the used the sd-ext convention.
corz123,
Get a file manager if you don't already have one
such as Astro, ES File Explorer, or Root Explorer if your rooted . Open
whichever one you have or acquire and U will see sdcard sdcard-ext.
Ok see you later
I just bought a new SGSII and I'm finding the storage mounts a bit strange. I'm seeing that there is a "usb storage" on the phone as well as the external SD storage. However, it is not allowing me to "Move to SD Card" for the phone's storage and requiring me to use my (slower) external SD card. I've tried to use the ADB "pm setInstallLocation" command to force it internal, but that doesn't seem to work either. Is there any way to use the USB storage on the phone for "app 2 sd"?
Thanks,
Craig
Did you read the FAQ?
I did (before I rooted), but even reviewing again now I'm not seeing anything relative to this. What am I missing?
That there's no benefit to moving apps to the external SD with this phone's file system and amount of built-in storage. Save the ext_SD for your data, movie and music files.
I didn't see that. However, I'm confused by this. I was not being allowed to reinstall some of the apps I had installed on my Captivate since I was out of space. Move to SD cleared up space so that I could finish restoring my apps.
I wonder if something is not set up quite right on my device?
Which app are you trying to move?
Everything should be installed on your phone automatically unless you change it to your card. Unless a Rom you are using has it set differently, I think ShoStock has an option to do that automatically.
I don't think I was entirely clear in my question. My device has:
1) Internal Phone Storage
2) Internal "USB" Phone Storage
3) External SD Card Storage
By default, applications are installed to #1 which is a smaller partition and bound to fill up. If I chose "Move to SD Card", it automatically goes to #3 and yet I want to put it on #2 and I'm not allowed to do that. If I pull out my external SD card, those applications will disappear. I'd like to be able to have "Move to SD Card" use #2 instead of #3, as that storage is not removable and will also (theoretically) be faster.
This is how it worked on my Captivate (both stock and Cyanogenmod), so I'm very confused about what is going on with this and I'd really like to change things up to work as I'd like.
Thanks for insights,
Craig
The Captivate uses a different file system and mounting system than the SGSII. You would be better off to redownload the apps from the Market, then restore just the data for those apps. I had major problem with restoring my Captivate TiBU backup to my SGSII until I did this. Your problem is that the apps that were installed to the SD card on the Cappy do not have the same corresponding place on the SGSII. Trust me, reinstalling from the Market and then restoring the data is the best bet.
That is exactly what I did. However, it still does not change the fact that I'm not allowed to use internal SD storage when I move applications.
Considering that the internal USB storage is not an actual SD card, the App to SD function is working properly. The SGSII considers that to be extended system storage, not an actual SD card.
What is extended system storage supposed to be used for? This is new to me.
User generated data like photos, music, videos, downloads. Just not apps.
OK. Thanks. I guess I'm not thrilled with the way this is being done now, but it sounds like I don't have much of a choice on top of stock ROM.
How many other phones give you 32gb of internal storage separate from RAM and the option to add another 32gb externally? Be happy.
Sorry... Didn't mean to sound completely unhappy... Just forces me to re-think my use of storage... To some extent it may actually *reverse* my previous use of storage.
No worries. I came to Android from years with WinMo devices. This is my 2nd Android phone and it always takes a little while to adjust.
This is my second Android phone as well.... along with multiple ROMs on the last phone. Which is why I'm always amazed at the number of different ways these things get partitioned.
Hi
i just rooted my sgs2 and i got 16gb external sd card, i have seen lots of good apps and i want to install them but before that i have read that some people recomend to install apps2sd to save space on the phone but other said that with that amount of space you dont need to install this app, also i readed that some roms dont support the app, so its good idea to install apps2sd???
I really like apps and i will check 3 or 5 roms. If its a good a idea, should i install first, before any other app??
Greetings from MX
skaarax said:
Hi
i just rooted my sgs2 and i got 16gb external sd card, i have seen lots of good apps and i want to install them but before that i have read that some people recomend to install apps2sd to save space on the phone but other said that with that amount of space you dont need to install this app, also i readed that some roms dont support the app, so its good idea to install apps2sd???
I really like apps and i will check 3 or 5 roms. If its a good a idea, should i install first, before any other app??
Greetings from MX
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I don't know apps2sd.
But it sounds like it moves your apps to the external sd card.
That can also be done with stock Android system: Setting > Applications > SD card.
Then click on the app you want to move and say move to sd card.
I had some apps on my external sd card, but some apps are loaded a little bit later/slower, when they are on the external sd card.
So, I recommend that all apps, which you need very often and especially direct after booting the phone, should stay on the internal sd card.
And after flashing some "early" ICS Rom versions, I lost my apps which were on the external sd card.
I had to re-install them from Play store.
But this was only an issue of some ICS ROMs/kernels, and should be fixed now.
Anyway, that caused me to move all apps back to the internal sd card.
I just want to be on the "safe side" ;-)
you should absolutely not install app2sd (the app of that name), because the functionality is already present in all roms.
in settings -> apps you can move apps.
however, in contrast to the previous post, apps are moved between the /data/ partition of the internal sd card and the /sdcard/ partition of the internal sd card.
as you might know, /data/ has 2GB, /sdcard/ has about 12GB. You can check on your current storage space occupation in settings -> storage.
if you have enough free space on data, leave your apps there, as sdcard is a universal storage space, that can also contain music, photos, videos and so on and since this space is also accessible to users that are not rooted, it is more versatile and therefor more valuable.
Since both partitions are on the same sd card, you don't have to worry about speed differences.
After moving some apps using apps2sd I had to restore a nandroid because it messed up my system.
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great i wont install apps2sd, but now what kind of files or info is recommended to be in the external SDcard?
I have on the external sd card my movies, music, photos and videos recorded with the phone camera, my titanium backup folder, few custom rom zip files, nandroids etc.
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^Ditto. Keep your media and big files on external SD, keep your apps on the internal app memory if you can (its around 2gb in size, unless you go over that there is no need to put apps on SD).
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Pretty much a obvious question for most people . Do install it ! It moves apps to SD ( wow ) , clearing space for many many other stuff . So , why not install it ?
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well iam fully loaded an my opinion is the app notifies u wen u install a app,but on the hard core side wen many apps r moved to sd ,ive crashd sometimes..i think it was better if there was a option to store apps directly on the ext sd card instead of phone or int sd card...
Try GL to SD from the market, posted a threat like this a month ago and someone recommend me this.
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Hi guys!
I have a bit of a problem with my S2 storage. I'm running cyanogenmod. So I wanted to ask you guys how could I best manage all my apps/pics/videos/backups etc.
My current status:
System ROM 528MB, 149MB free
Internal 2.11GB, 637MB free
SD Card 12.3GB, 1.35GB free
Ext. SD Card: 31.9GB, 29.1GB free.
So you see here my problem...I have this huge 32GB SD card that is mostly empty, while all my installed apps go either to the 600MB of internal data partition or to the internal memory. Either way, I barely have 2GB available for data, and a huge partition that now I can't even take for the camera (CM will only save to internal DCIM folder).
Titanium Backup allows to move the data folder anywhere, so it's into the big SD card.
ScummVM allows to save the ROMs anywhere, so also these ones are in the SD card.
Movies/Videos I download are in the SD card.
...And that's it. Whenever I take pictures, I need to remember to move the files manually to the external SD, because the camera app will only save them in the internal memory. What can I do? How can I improve this?
THanks a lot!
Up!
A camera app such as Camera Zoom Fx available on play, will allow you to specify where your pictures are saved.
Also, I am running the latest NEATROM lite based on the JB leak and the stock camera allows you to choose between internal and sd card as storage. This may not be the case on older versions of the stock camera.
Hope this helps with the picture issue at least!
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Yeah, thanks. All the Samsung stock cameras allow saving into the SD card. The AOSP one, however, doesn't. Still don't quite understand it.
Anyway, besides the camera, would there be a way to move installed apps (or its data) to the SD card?
timonoj said:
Yeah, thanks. All the Samsung stock cameras allow saving into the SD card. The AOSP one, however, doesn't. Still don't quite understand it.
Anyway, besides the camera, would there be a way to move installed apps (or its data) to the SD card?
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I have never done this with GS2 but on HD2 we could create a sdext partition on external sd. This partition would then be used by system to extend internal storage. I think this can be done on GS2 via cwm by partitioning sdcard. You would need to backup your data from external card first though before partitioning.
There is also Apps2SD on google play which will move installed apps to ext card.
Yeah, that's it! I did something like this on my Nexus One on its day. It wasn't perfect but it was good. I'll look into this. Thanks!