Hello,
I'm considering the Tab 10.1 or 10.1v. I thought I had done my research before, but was surprised to find out there's two different version of the tab 10.1: the v and non-v version.
Excuse my newbie questions...I tried to do my due diligence with searching the forum and the web first.
I'll summarize what I've found. Besides the slight changes in specification, are there any other user experience changes that aren't listed in the spec sheet? Is it obvious / easy to tell which version is at Best Buy if you go and look?
I read that one of them has different size partitions that make rooting more difficult - is that still the case?
And why did Samsung come out with two version of the 10.1 that's so similar? Is one of them newer than the other?
10.1v:
589 grams
8.0MP
proximity sensor (no light sensor?)
6860 mAh battery
BT 2.1
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10.1:
565 grams, slightly lighter
3.0 MP camera, less resolution
ambient light sensor (vs. proximity sensor on the 10.1v)
700 mAh battery
BT 3.0
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Edit: I used to have a Transformer, but it died on me. I'm assuming the user experience on the Transformer would be about the same as the Samsung? I can install apps via android market, or Amazon's android app store? I can root like I can with the Transformer?
Samsung is superior. Much better display and no bleeding (lighter areas on the corners).
10.1v is the first model only published through vodafone, 10.1 the new one. 10.1v has the better cam but is pretty fat compared to the new model.
i suggest you go with 10.1, the smaller one.
dcc22 said:
Samsung is superior. Much better display and no bleeding (lighter areas on the corners).
10.1v is the first model only published through vodafone, 10.1 the new one. 10.1v has the better cam but is pretty fat compared to the new model.
i suggest you go with 10.1, the smaller one.
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but issues with blob of moisture under screen and many wit dst unde screen.....
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dcc22 said:
Samsung is superior. Much better display and no bleeding (lighter areas on the corners).
10.1v is the first model only published through vodafone, 10.1 the new one. 10.1v has the better cam but is pretty fat compared to the new model.
i suggest you go with 10.1, the smaller one.
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i own a 10.1v myself. "pretty fat" actually means smaller than the ipad1. it isn't really fat. it's just about 2mm thicker than the 10.1, but definetly not fat!
personally, i do like the handling of the 10.1v more than the 10.1 or ipad2, because of the textured back.
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Is it obvious / easy to tell which version is at Best Buy if you go and look?
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Yes it is. The US doesn't stock the 10.1v
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I just brought a galaxy tab 10.1 and when I came to the development forums I see there's one for the 10.1 and a 10.1v how do I know which I have? Sorry if it's a stupid question I haven't been following this tab
the 10.1v is the Vodafone one that came out months ago.
OK thanks alot I wanted to make sure I don't flash anything wrong
Is there no way to see this in the software in some way? I face the same problem as the thread starter, I have no previous experience of tabs and was given this Tab 10.1 by my wife. Hell-no that I will guess and possibly brick my device because of not knowing if this is a "v" or not.
- Bought in Sweden in August 2011, using a leather cover bought from the US and it fits perfectly.
please, how do I define it "v" or "not v" ?
Their basically the same... The GT 10.1v came out first and is only sold over seas(non US) , then Samsung redesigned it so that it would be thinner than the IPad2. That's pretty much it.... and the 10.1v has a 8meg camera and the 10.1 only has a 3meg camera.
Check out this link, the Tab at the top is the 10.1v and the Tab at the bottom is the 10.1.
http://www.tabletsforu.com/2011/05/10/samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1v-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-10-1/
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Hah, wrong thread. Long day.
Anyways the 10.1v is significantly thicker than the 10.1. If you know how thin an iPad 2 is, the 10.1 is comparable to that. The 10.1v is much thicker than an iPad 2 (closer to iPad 1 in thickness).
I've seen a few posts about this, but nothing definitive on whether anyone is actually working on any ROMs for the 10.1 Tab from T-Mobile (I picked one up about a month ago). I'm actually only looking for a stock ROM I can flash should I screw something up (which I kinda sorta did, but it's not something I can't recover from). When I got the device, and before I rooted it, I did go through and install some things and tweak some settings, then I rooted it, made a Nandroid Backup that I'm hoping is still recoverable (with all my changes), but I'd like to be able to go back to stock and start over whenever I feel the need.
Also, for getting any cases/accessories that require a certain size, which model which I be looking for, the 7500v, 7510, 3G model, etc (I don't know all the model numbers, just throwing these out there). It seems that the US Wifi version is the same size, but hoping others have already had experience with this. For now, I have a cheapo case off of eBay, just looking to upgrade to something nice.
Ive been lookin for cases too and if i find anything good ill let you know. I saw one on the t-mobile website that had a keyoard in the fold down case. Only question is where to get it cheaper.
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Have a look on the box and you'll notice whether you've the 7500 or 7510 - I believe the difference being that one's the 10.1 and one the slightly thicker 10.1v with an 8mp rear camera.
There is no physical difference on the 10.1 between WiFi and 3G models except for the SIM cover on the top side. The 10.1v has different dimensions and a different back cover IIRC.
If the back of the Tab is plain of one colour except for a light Gray bezel around the camera, you have the 10.1 - if the back is full black with a circular effect in the middle it's the 10.1v.
EDIT: If you have the 10.1 (NOT the V), my personal favourite case is the Samsung Book Cover. It adds a fair bit of weight but very little bulk, lets you rest the device (almost) flat, raised for typing, or raised for video etc, and being an official product means the Tab fits perfectly and you can access everything very easily. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EFC-1B1NBEGSTA
Llamider said:
Ive been lookin for cases too and if i find anything good ill let you know. I saw one on the t-mobile website that had a keyoard in the fold down case. Only question is where to get it cheaper.
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The T-Mobile Tab is the same size as the standard P7500/P7510 so all the accesories should work. The Samsung OEM Bluetooth keyboard is fantastic and the most integrated and compact solution available. It's pricey but really high quality.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html
The best all-around case I've found is pretty cheap and available on Amazon. It's slim, well made, and sturdy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005G19P7M/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
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Thanks for the replies, that helps in terms of the size/form factor. Any thoughts on the ROM situation? I'm just looking to have a stock ROM handy in case things go wacky on me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21423120
Check out my guide.
Aside from the fact that the note has slightly higher specs plus a mechanical button, aren't they nearly identical?
There are several ROMs in that section of the forums I would love to try but I don't have time to test nor do I want to brick my device. Although I could always restore from a CWM backup if that situation ever arises.
raishiro said:
Aside from the fact that the note has slightly higher specs plus a mechanical button, aren't they nearly identical?
There are several ROMs in that section of the forums I would love to try but I don't have time to test nor do I want to brick my device. Although I could always restore from a CWM backup if that situation ever arises.
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No. Don't try that lol I think "slightly higher specs" overlooks the fact that it's meant for a 1280 x 720 screen. Our galaxy can only output at 800 x 480 with a single core processor as opposed to a dual/quad (depending on version) processor. The two phones are not a like at all. Size of the phone doesn't constitute equality in software/hardware terms.
Thought so. At first I assumed the note was just the player with calling abilities. Thanks
raishiro said:
Thought so. At first I assumed the note was just the player with calling abilities. Thanks
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Samsung Galaxy S is closer to the GP than the Note is I think.
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Samsung Galaxy S is closer to the GP than the Note is I think.
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Correct. The Samsung Galaxy Player 4/5 is basically a super-sized Galaxy S. There is actually on very minor differences between the two (the SGPs have much better overall performance for reasons).
I really hope Samsung decides to re-re-fresh the SGP line up with something that could turn heads... I mean throw SuperAMOLED on an Media player with a little higher resolution (maybe 720p) and I'd be sold asap.
ZaIINN said:
Correct. The Samsung Galaxy Player 4/5 is basically a super-sized Galaxy S. There is actually on very minor differences between the two (the SGPs have much better overall performance for reasons).
I really hope Samsung decides to re-re-fresh the SGP line up with something that could turn heads... I mean throw SuperAMOLED on an Media player with a little higher resolution (maybe 720p) and I'd be sold asap.
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Add in a better processor and more ram and I am in. I love my Player 5, but it is too laggy.
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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adamski123 said:
Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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it is neither lighter nor thinner , but has a faster processor and a pen
If you're price conscious then the original tab is a great buy. Also consider that accessories for the 10.1 Note will be at a premium while a ton of stuff for the original tab are on clearance.
Wait for the note... The pen is surprisingly great (on the note 5.3 anyway), and the faster processor will be a nice upgrade, because the Tegra 2 in the original 10.1 tab isn't great... Very laggy... Yes it's better with cm9, but still not that good.
I have a gt-p7510 Galaxy tab 10.1 and I like it, but if I didn't already have it, I would definitely wait for the note 10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys. Really appreciated.
I too hate the lag and on video reviews of the note I thought it was very slow so good thing they are improving the processor.
I always wondered if you could use a stylus on the original tab. What is the upgrade that makes the note souh better with the stylus from the tab?
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vasp3690 said:
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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If you're planning to use it for note-taking, the note 10.1 is an easy choice. For everything else, you'll want to consider whether the faster processor is worth the price difference.
I would also wait on the note, even though it won't be out for a good while. I got the galaxy tab 10.1 a few weeks ago and am loving it so far. But this won't stop me from getting the note 10.1 the moment it becomes available (will have to sell this tab then lol). The biggest thing, for me personally, is the pen; stylus functionality isn't the best thing in the world when it comes to the original tab 10.1 even though it may be functional. But thats all it is, functional, not amazing or practical when it comes to taking notes (student's perspective). Of course the processor bump just makes it sweeter, I'm just hoping the price isn't too steep.
Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Yes the stylus isn't required. The touch capability would be the same as the current tab, if anything better (highly unlikely) when it comes to using your fingers. The stylus just adds the extra dimension of certain apps that take advantage of that, such as iAnnotate PDF, Zenbrush, etc. And lets not forget the superb precision the pen will bring when it comes to drawing and taking notes. If Samsung puts in an AMOLED HD screen (Ok I'm seriously asking for too much with this suggestion) this tablet will be beyond perfect, IMO.
If price isn't a concern, I'd say wait for the Note. Why buy last year's model when the new one is right around the corner? The processor bump will probably be enough to justify the price difference, but I'm happy enough with my Tab to sit this round out.
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
So here it is June. Any rumored dates for the Galaxy Note 10.1?
And will that justify a new forum, or will we continue with this one?
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as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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Agree with this and i got no carrier limitations since i got international sim unlocked Tab and they cant prevent My upgrades
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Untrue. LG and Motorola have been far worse. Again, any carrier locked device is at the mercy of the carrier, not Samsung. Samsung may very well have pushed the ICS update to all the major carriers but they haven't pushed it out to their customers yet. Probably because they want to shove all their own UIs and bloatware on it first.
I would be getting the tab sim free and adding a sim to it later on. I much rather not have a locked device if I can buy it depending on price. So I presume updating wont be an issue.
Still no word from samsung though about the release dates
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Near the end of june now and still nothing from samsung for this one...
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I had HTC Desire for nearly 3 years, and it is a great phone, but I think it is time to upgrade, because:
- it is annoyingly slow with my regular set of programs installed, even on fastest available roms
- it doesn't have kernel 3.0, and because of that JB roms have shortcomings
- a little bit too small screen for GPS navigation
- really crappy camera
- somewhat short battery life
Some time ago I had a chance to look at Galaxy S2 in person and it looked like a perfect phone (at least for 2 minutes I had it in my hands).
Somewhat bigger screen, more internal storage, kernel 3.0.
I use custom roms, so big development community is important for me. I have been spoiled by Desire as it (still) has a large one.
Galaxy S2 would cost me around 170-200 euro to get it.
Should I take that, or look for something else in this price range?
My requirements:
- larger screen (not necessarily much larger)
- android (duh)
- solid build quality
- large development community
- noticeably faster CPU than Desire (Dual+ core would come in handy)
- microUSB
- good/very good camera
- good battery life
- price up to 200 euro (used)
- would be nice if it had FM transmitter (not receiver) but it is not necessary
- it must by BLACK or therebout
No. Why would you buy a phone that's been out for two yrs ? Get an S3 or S4 if you want a Samsung phone.
Galaxy Nexus may fit your needs..
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No. Why would you buy a phone that's been out for two yrs ? Get an S3 or S4 if you want a Samsung phone.
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Because I don't care how long the phone has been out, but how well it suits my needs.
Plus, S3 and S4 are surely more expensive.
Personally, between S2, S3 and S4, I would recommend the S3. (Although it wouldn't fit the budget, unless there are some offers!)
Mainly because it is relatively newer and you can expect new Android upgrades from Samsung (at least KLP) for it. Samsung has already announced that 4.2.2 will be the last update for S2, according to samfirmware. And with so many (mainly, codeworkx) developers not showing much love for Samsung devices of late, I am sure it would take that much longer to get custom ROMs updates.
If you do decide on S2, it is a really good device!! Great build, great design etc. But I suggest you buy the OMAP variants (i9100G), as it has better support from development community. Owing mainly to TI playing nice compared to Samsung (Exynos).
Several developers are not happy with Samsung's support for Exynos devices and Samsung's lack of support for the dev community of late. For me, this is a major concern.
Why are you advising the guy to get the g variant?.There was almost a riot in your country a year ago when suppliers were giving out g variant models instead of the plain gti9100 model.
If you want then buy a Nexus 7
Nexus has a huge development community and is also in ur price range
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If you want then buy a Nexus 7
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Why would I buy a tablet when I need a phone?
Samsung Galaxy S2 is still a powerful device even beat some newest devices (of course not high-end ones) but it's still can go well with mid-range devices.
Get S2 or S4.....I (personally) don't like the S3.The big thing is,that S4 hasn't a big developent support,since it's a new phone.Galaxy S2 has still a big support...I still see new ROMs and updates every day or week.And it is fast,no matter what people say...get the setup as in my sig...my phone was never faster.
So S2 looks interesting, but this is what I have been told about regarding its screen:
I also considered s2 but there's one serious setback to it. Namely, the screen is amoled and without pentile matrix.
What's bad about it you ask? pixels that are frequently used lose color and items that you have on screen for most time are somewhat paler than the rest of the screen, and you can see their shadow for the whole time, ppl reported that with all amoled displays and non pentile of s2 is even more susceptible to that. That happens even to devices 3 months old, depending on how heavily they are used I guess. You can google it to see for yourself, just type galaxy s2 amoled burn in. There are also few good YouTube vids showing that. Items that you usually can see are burned in status bar, soft keys from your most used app, keyboard, alarm icon and "fully charged" sign across the screen as during night charging the phone lights up when battery is full and keeps the screen on until you turn it off or unplug it/on some ROMs at least, stock including/.
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Do you guys have any comments on that? Is it that bad and common as it sounds? On my 3 year old Desire I see nothing like it happening.
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Why are you advising the guy to get the g variant?
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Oh, if I wasn't clear: Right now I would prefer to use an S3. But if I had a fixed budget and decided on S2, I would by the G variant. -- This is what I meant.
Honestly, I thought those 'riots' were because Samsung decided to slip in the G variant very slyly. No intimation of any sort to the buyers.
I have read about the lower bechmarks on i9100G etc. Any other difference that goes against the i9100G? (Sorry that I am hijacking the thread, just wanted to know)
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impactor said:
Do you guys have any comments on that? Is it that bad and common as it sounds? On my 3 year old Desire I see nothing like it happening.
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I have been using my S2 for more than two years now. I haven't noticed this burn in. (And, hopefully I don't. )
I tried looking for it right now, and...nope, nothing like it.
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Oh, if I wasn't clear: Right now I would prefer to use an S3. But if I had a fixed budget and decided on S2, I would by the G variant. -- This is what I meant.
Honestly, I thought those 'riots' were because Samsung decided to slip in the G variant very slyly. No intimation of any sort to the buyers.
I have read about the lower bechmarks on i9100G etc. Any other difference that goes against the i9100G? (Sorry that I am hijacking the thread, just wanted to know)
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The g has a lot less development than the plain gti9100,unless something changed on here in the last 2 months.And the models are based on regions(supposedly).
Theres a wiki page that lists the models and explains a bit about them,so he can look at that and see what options are best for France.
I think the lte variant is the best,but maybe its for other regions of the world.
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The g has a lot less development than the plain gti9100,unless something changed on here in the last 2 months.
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Seeing that the G has a stable CM release and the default perpetually being restricted to only nightlies, I had assumed otherwise.
Thanks!!
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
By the way, are there some roms for S2 that allow changing software DPI? I have seen ParanoidAndroid on Desire can do that, but apart from this ROM, I haven't seen it anywhere else.
impactor said:
Meh, I am stuck.
I read around here that s2 display is horrible when compared to s3.
s3 has even cheaper feel, and is 100-170e more expensive
Sensation is useless to me.
Price of S4 is absurd...
By the way, are there some roms for S2 that allow changing software DPI? I have seen ParanoidAndroid on Desire can do that, but apart from this ROM, I haven't seen it anywhere else.
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i prefer the s2 display to my brother's s3 and my friends' s4 and xperia z personally
as to dpi, yes: slim, and rootbox do, and others may that i don't know of
p.s. i love my s2, so fast, and battery lasts soooo long , however if you're paying more than 200 usd it's not worth it