I've seen a few posts about this, but nothing definitive on whether anyone is actually working on any ROMs for the 10.1 Tab from T-Mobile (I picked one up about a month ago). I'm actually only looking for a stock ROM I can flash should I screw something up (which I kinda sorta did, but it's not something I can't recover from). When I got the device, and before I rooted it, I did go through and install some things and tweak some settings, then I rooted it, made a Nandroid Backup that I'm hoping is still recoverable (with all my changes), but I'd like to be able to go back to stock and start over whenever I feel the need.
Also, for getting any cases/accessories that require a certain size, which model which I be looking for, the 7500v, 7510, 3G model, etc (I don't know all the model numbers, just throwing these out there). It seems that the US Wifi version is the same size, but hoping others have already had experience with this. For now, I have a cheapo case off of eBay, just looking to upgrade to something nice.
Ive been lookin for cases too and if i find anything good ill let you know. I saw one on the t-mobile website that had a keyoard in the fold down case. Only question is where to get it cheaper.
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Have a look on the box and you'll notice whether you've the 7500 or 7510 - I believe the difference being that one's the 10.1 and one the slightly thicker 10.1v with an 8mp rear camera.
There is no physical difference on the 10.1 between WiFi and 3G models except for the SIM cover on the top side. The 10.1v has different dimensions and a different back cover IIRC.
If the back of the Tab is plain of one colour except for a light Gray bezel around the camera, you have the 10.1 - if the back is full black with a circular effect in the middle it's the 10.1v.
EDIT: If you have the 10.1 (NOT the V), my personal favourite case is the Samsung Book Cover. It adds a fair bit of weight but very little bulk, lets you rest the device (almost) flat, raised for typing, or raised for video etc, and being an official product means the Tab fits perfectly and you can access everything very easily. http://www.samsung.com/us/mobile/galaxy-tab-accessories/EFC-1B1NBEGSTA
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Ive been lookin for cases too and if i find anything good ill let you know. I saw one on the t-mobile website that had a keyoard in the fold down case. Only question is where to get it cheaper.
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The T-Mobile Tab is the same size as the standard P7500/P7510 so all the accesories should work. The Samsung OEM Bluetooth keyboard is fantastic and the most integrated and compact solution available. It's pricey but really high quality.
http://reviews.cnet.com/2300-3126_7-10008260-4.html
The best all-around case I've found is pretty cheap and available on Amazon. It's slim, well made, and sturdy.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B005G19P7M/ref=olp_product_details?ie=UTF8&me=&seller=
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Thanks for the replies, that helps in terms of the size/form factor. Any thoughts on the ROM situation? I'm just looking to have a stock ROM handy in case things go wacky on me.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21423120
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Hello,
I'm considering the Tab 10.1 or 10.1v. I thought I had done my research before, but was surprised to find out there's two different version of the tab 10.1: the v and non-v version.
Excuse my newbie questions...I tried to do my due diligence with searching the forum and the web first.
I'll summarize what I've found. Besides the slight changes in specification, are there any other user experience changes that aren't listed in the spec sheet? Is it obvious / easy to tell which version is at Best Buy if you go and look?
I read that one of them has different size partitions that make rooting more difficult - is that still the case?
And why did Samsung come out with two version of the 10.1 that's so similar? Is one of them newer than the other?
10.1v:
589 grams
8.0MP
proximity sensor (no light sensor?)
6860 mAh battery
BT 2.1
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565 grams, slightly lighter
3.0 MP camera, less resolution
ambient light sensor (vs. proximity sensor on the 10.1v)
700 mAh battery
BT 3.0
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Edit: I used to have a Transformer, but it died on me. I'm assuming the user experience on the Transformer would be about the same as the Samsung? I can install apps via android market, or Amazon's android app store? I can root like I can with the Transformer?
Samsung is superior. Much better display and no bleeding (lighter areas on the corners).
10.1v is the first model only published through vodafone, 10.1 the new one. 10.1v has the better cam but is pretty fat compared to the new model.
i suggest you go with 10.1, the smaller one.
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Samsung is superior. Much better display and no bleeding (lighter areas on the corners).
10.1v is the first model only published through vodafone, 10.1 the new one. 10.1v has the better cam but is pretty fat compared to the new model.
i suggest you go with 10.1, the smaller one.
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but issues with blob of moisture under screen and many wit dst unde screen.....
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dcc22 said:
Samsung is superior. Much better display and no bleeding (lighter areas on the corners).
10.1v is the first model only published through vodafone, 10.1 the new one. 10.1v has the better cam but is pretty fat compared to the new model.
i suggest you go with 10.1, the smaller one.
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i own a 10.1v myself. "pretty fat" actually means smaller than the ipad1. it isn't really fat. it's just about 2mm thicker than the 10.1, but definetly not fat!
personally, i do like the handling of the 10.1v more than the 10.1 or ipad2, because of the textured back.
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Is it obvious / easy to tell which version is at Best Buy if you go and look?
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Yes it is. The US doesn't stock the 10.1v
I'm on the fence about either a Galaxy Tab 10.1 or a Tablet S.. right now they are priced about the same but the local store is doing a free set of Sony earbuds and case with the Tablet S.
Would love to hear opinions as to which is the best option. I like the unique look of the Tablet S so far.
I had the Samsung and sold it to buy the Sony. The Sony is much more comfortable to use and its design is fantastic. It also benefits from a full size SD card slot and in my opinion a better screen. You also have the latest OS update on the Sony at Android 3.2.
They are both excellent devices but I just feel the Sony edges it with the comfort factor which is especially good in portrait.
Bought the 10.1 about 4-5 days before the Sony came out, I traded it in on a whim and I'm glad I did. I love my Sony more than I did my 10.1, the size of the Sony feels more right, even in bigger hands.
I sold my rooted Xoom & chose the Tablet S also, it's suppose to be delivered tomorrow or Thurs. The only negative is that the Tablet S hasn't been rooted yet. I plan on testing it out, & if I REALLY miss root, I may sell it & get the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
You are in a Sony forum, so consider that while weighing the answers given.
I have both, and what has aggravated me about the Samsung 10.1 is that they insisted on copying the iPad (good and bad features) as close as possible. No memory expansion. A propietary dock port. Etc.. The Sony S is original, thoughtful, has IR emitter, and an ergonomic shape. I prefer the S for those reasons.
Yeah honestly despite the appearance that Sony just made it look weird for the sake of being unique I cant praise the shape of the tablet enough. It is imo a feature worth being a deciding factor, the tablet just feels so "right" in your hand. The Galaxy is a fine tablet having used it quite a bit but no way would I trade my S Tab for it.
I was at the library today using a corded Laser mouse connected to my S. Love the hardcore computer aspect of it! host port makes it a complete computing device...
Start the same thread in SAMSUNG GALAXY TAB 10.1 Section !!!
You will see the difference in opinion...IMO, Sony S is better than Samsung Tab in looks(unique), PS games, better UI, SD Slot !!!
What I don't like is the Sound Output..
ruddogg said:
I sold my rooted Xoom & chose the Tablet S also, it's suppose to be delivered tomorrow or Thurs. The only negative is that the Tablet S hasn't been rooted yet. I plan on testing it out, & if I REALLY miss root, I may sell it & get the Galaxy Tab 10.1.
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Can't wait for it to get rooted either, just to get rid of the customised icons if nothing else!
On topic, the IR remote and Play Station certification swung it for me.
Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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Wait for note. It will probs be lighter and thinner and will defo have a faster processor. Plus it ships with ics. And it has the pen
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it is neither lighter nor thinner , but has a faster processor and a pen
If you're price conscious then the original tab is a great buy. Also consider that accessories for the 10.1 Note will be at a premium while a ton of stuff for the original tab are on clearance.
Wait for the note... The pen is surprisingly great (on the note 5.3 anyway), and the faster processor will be a nice upgrade, because the Tegra 2 in the original 10.1 tab isn't great... Very laggy... Yes it's better with cm9, but still not that good.
I have a gt-p7510 Galaxy tab 10.1 and I like it, but if I didn't already have it, I would definitely wait for the note 10.1.
Thanks for the replies guys. Really appreciated.
I too hate the lag and on video reviews of the note I thought it was very slow so good thing they are improving the processor.
I always wondered if you could use a stylus on the original tab. What is the upgrade that makes the note souh better with the stylus from the tab?
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Hello,
I'm strongly considering getting one of the above, once the second one is available. The fact that the noteay have a stronger processor is a plus.
What should I be looking out for in these devices? What are niggles that would prompt me to check and potentially need to replace if found? Software bugs? Construction quality?
Overall use is going to be internet, everyday calendar, notes etc.
Thanks in advance!
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If you're planning to use it for note-taking, the note 10.1 is an easy choice. For everything else, you'll want to consider whether the faster processor is worth the price difference.
I would also wait on the note, even though it won't be out for a good while. I got the galaxy tab 10.1 a few weeks ago and am loving it so far. But this won't stop me from getting the note 10.1 the moment it becomes available (will have to sell this tab then lol). The biggest thing, for me personally, is the pen; stylus functionality isn't the best thing in the world when it comes to the original tab 10.1 even though it may be functional. But thats all it is, functional, not amazing or practical when it comes to taking notes (student's perspective). Of course the processor bump just makes it sweeter, I'm just hoping the price isn't too steep.
Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Would the Note have the same touch capability as the Tab if not using the pen? If so, then it was be a great plus!
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Yes the stylus isn't required. The touch capability would be the same as the current tab, if anything better (highly unlikely) when it comes to using your fingers. The stylus just adds the extra dimension of certain apps that take advantage of that, such as iAnnotate PDF, Zenbrush, etc. And lets not forget the superb precision the pen will bring when it comes to drawing and taking notes. If Samsung puts in an AMOLED HD screen (Ok I'm seriously asking for too much with this suggestion) this tablet will be beyond perfect, IMO.
If price isn't a concern, I'd say wait for the Note. Why buy last year's model when the new one is right around the corner? The processor bump will probably be enough to justify the price difference, but I'm happy enough with my Tab to sit this round out.
as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
So here it is June. Any rumored dates for the Galaxy Note 10.1?
And will that justify a new forum, or will we continue with this one?
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as I have mentioned in other threads my experience with 3g model has not been good, as in Samsung stock experience.
The hardware is good, there is no denying of that of course, and if you can mod it you can get pretty good results (I am happy with the latest ROM I installed, Overcome + pershoot kernel).
Although samsung seems to be delaying ics upgrade in favor of new hardware and in my case in Spain I haven't received a single update to my 3g from stock HC 3.1, and stock is everything but functional after little use, not to mention no launcher hw acceleration so when you have a few icons, dragging them around can be infuriating, of course forget about live wallpapers, screen not refreshing certain elements after a while, reboots, and similar utter failure.
From what I am reading Asus is giving better support and motorola xoom already has ICS.
I even have a college at work who is talking wonders about a chinese tab (Onda?) which is much cheaper and already working with ICS.
I suggest you consider the manufacturer.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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I don't have any of those problems with my Galaxy Tab 10.1. Dragging icons is fine, live wallpapers work fine, everything refreshes as it should, and I've not had any spontaneous reboots. I'm not rooted and everything seems zippy and smooth. Best tablet I've had so far. I'd like ICS but I'm willing to be patient. I'm sure they have their hands full making sure it's stable and working properly with Touchwiz. Anyone waiting for it through a carrier should be angry with them, not Samsung. The carriers are the ones responsible for pushing the update and most of them drag their feet for some reason.
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Agree with this and i got no carrier limitations since i got international sim unlocked Tab and they cant prevent My upgrades
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Personally I say neither and go with Asus. Of the tablets Samsung has been amount the worse at providing updates and failing to do so.
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Untrue. LG and Motorola have been far worse. Again, any carrier locked device is at the mercy of the carrier, not Samsung. Samsung may very well have pushed the ICS update to all the major carriers but they haven't pushed it out to their customers yet. Probably because they want to shove all their own UIs and bloatware on it first.
I would be getting the tab sim free and adding a sim to it later on. I much rather not have a locked device if I can buy it depending on price. So I presume updating wont be an issue.
Still no word from samsung though about the release dates
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Near the end of june now and still nothing from samsung for this one...
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And I can run AT&T line through. My Note is too small. Anything out there or coming up I should give a hard look at?
Hi there,
I was faced with the same conundrum 2 months back. My decision was to just go with the galaxy tab 2, and adjust my fashion style (if there was any in the first place). Now I just carry a small man bag every where I go to accommodate the 7 inch tab since I use it not just as a high mobility tablet but also as my primary phone. Yes, I do get funny looks from people on the streets from time to time , but hey , who cares what other people thinks , as far as I'm concerned, I now have a gadget to help me with my work wherever I am.
If you do opt for the galaxy tab 2 , I suggest you root it and install the latest version of cm from along with metallice's over lockable kernel, as his kernel not only allow us to increase the cpus' clock but also the gpu's. That combo makes all my previous performance woes go away. Been playing dead trigger on Max detail a lot lately.
PS: a sim free 7inch gsm gtab 2 (i believe at&t is gsm? Excuse me if im mistaken) costs under $400 where I live while an SGNote Costs around $600; so the cost saving is quite nice as well.
Like just said there's a few 7 inch tablets out there but apart from that there is some 5-6 inch Chinese phones but probably actually fatter and heavier than Note and have no power behind them, and the Note's about as big as you can physically make it and still call it a phone so doubt you'll find anything bigger unless Note 2 has bigger screen.
heehhh )
Good luck with your search DD I hope you have deep pockets XD use the savings to adjust your style
Shame they don't make one with a penta band radio inside. The 7.7 on Verizon has LTE inside but the AT&T equivalent doesn't. Always has to be a catch.
opinions if you have them, thx!
Note 10.1 2014 died a horrible death, have been looking for a replacement -- and of course, have been following threads in XDA and other sites in the meantime.
aware of various issues:
- wifi drain (though the latest update has some reporting it's been fixed?)
- non-Sammy magnet cases wreaking havoc
- still on Nougat, Oreo delivery date uncertain
- no backwards compatibility with .spd Note files
i can get the Tab S3 for $517 USD; or in bundle from B&H for $565 (no taxes on either order), which includes the keyboard cover.
thing is: the Galaxy Tab S4 will launch sometime this year (speculation is September), it will have Oreo out of the box (one would think), and it also looks to have a 16:10 ratio at 10.1"-- and maybe improved accessories. of course, the Tab S4 will be spensy AF.
thoughts?
I don't have mine yet, but if your carrier is Verizon, you can get the Tab S3 (T827) for $299 w/2yr contract. I snapped it up, since I don't anticipate leaving them in that time period. Should arrive Monday. It's supposed to get Oreo this summer. Many find 4:3 the best ratio for a tablet.
I should add that there doesn't seem to be a root available for the T827 as of yet.
Yes it worth i got yesterday with 24 months contract it rocks!!! Its sexy fast and powerful! You can just sell the s3 for some money and buy the s5 in few years when will be released. In next few years 5G will arrived and probably s5 would support it.
I don't know about the 2nd one, but the other problems don't need to worry about.
The tablet, with newest update, can install S Note from apkmirror, and you can also open SPD file using Samsung Notes.
thanks for the answers so far!
the SPD issue being resolved is pretty huge for me ...
i'm on the fence: argh, do i buy now (B&H just dropped the price by $70 for the tablet itself), or do i wait for the Tab S4, though unannounced but which is rumoured to be due later this year?
I've had mine since Aug 2017 and am completely happy about it. And I have the "composition book" magnetic cover and it has not had any issues with the magnets in it. Definitely get S Notes off apkmirror as Samsung Notes is really watered down.
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opinions if you have them, thx!
Note 10.1 2014 died a horrible death, have been looking for a replacement -- and of course, have been following threads in XDA and other sites in the meantime.
aware of various issues:
- wifi drain (though the latest update has some reporting it's been fixed?)
- non-Sammy magnet cases wreaking havoc
- still on Nougat, Oreo delivery date uncertain
- no backwards compatibility with .spd Note files
i can get the Tab S3 for $517 USD; or in bundle from B&H for $565 (no taxes on either order), which includes the keyboard cover.
thing is: the Galaxy Tab S4 will launch sometime this year (speculation is September), it will have Oreo out of the box (one would think), and it also looks to have a 16:10 ratio at 10.1"-- and maybe improved accessories. of course, the Tab S4 will be spensy AF.
thoughts?
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I have had my Tab S3 tablet since release day. Here are my thoughts:
- wifi drain (though the latest update has some reporting it's been fixed?)
Even after numerous updates wifi battery drain is still there. Hoping Oreo would fix this.
- non-Sammy magnet cases wreaking havoc
I used to use a smart magnetic case bought off amazon. They work for the auto screen on and off. However, the magnets do interfere with the Spen. I suggest to not fold the case all the way to the back of the device when writing on it. Im now using the official keyboard cover. It does not offer side protection and has no screen auto on/off function. But I prefer this over the magnetic case.
- still on Nougat, Oreo delivery date uncertain
Oreo is confirmed in the works and is coming soon. How soon? Im thinking mid to end of 2nd Quarter.
- no backwards compatibility with .spd Note files
Cant comment on this.
$565 for the tablet and keyboard cover is a good deal. I got my Tablet for $599 and paid extra $150 for the keyboard. Cant comment on the Tab S4 as I have not even heard rumors about it.
S-note can be side loaded on the S3. I have it on mine. Can't remember where I got it but the reference came from somewhere on this board.. Samsung Notes is a cruddy downgrade from S-note . No idea what Samsung was thinking. The off screen writing though goes to Samsung Notes only.
So far I've not seen any problem with my off brand case other than cheaply built retainers cracking. It does provide a good holder for the S-pen.
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With the TabS3 being on the "quarterly update" path, that is something to think about.
I have my Wifi Tab S3 since about a month after release. I still like it and use it, but at times it feels laggy, and I need to turn off WiFi when sleeping to save battery. Battery life still isn't as good as my several year old iPad Air 2 Cellular (with T-Mobile SIM and service).
Would I buy one today? I'd have to think hard about it.
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With the TabS3 being on the "quarterly update" path, that is something to think about.
I have my Wifi Tab S3 since about a month after release. I still like it and use it, but at times it feels laggy, and I need to turn off WiFi when sleeping to save battery. Battery life still isn't as good as my several year old iPad Air 2 Cellular (with T-Mobile SIM and service).
Would I buy one today? I'd have to think hard about it.
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I agree with KidJoe, although user experience is very depending on usage. I use the tab s3 mostly for watching Netflix and YouTube and some surfing the internet and therefore don't experience any lag. The screen is better than any other tablet I have seen (never looked at the iPads though). Battery life is fine. Easily one to two days on a charge. That's fine for me, I charge my smartphone every night so no big deal to plug in the tablet as well. Never really noticed the wifi drain (specially on latest update), only because everybody is complaining about it (conformation bias?).
Also never used the pen so can't comment on that. Still waiting for the google assistant coming to my country (the Netherlands). And that's also my only critique on the tab S3: damn Samsung software. I prefer the stock Android experience.
To summarize: because the lack of tab S4 and google pixel tablet with OLED screen, I would definitely buy this tablet again. I paid 485 Euro's on eglobal central. They now sell it for 430 Euro's which is a great deal imo.
my s3 is a hog.
Android tablets get a lot of hate for reasons I don't understand. If Android tablets are your preference (as they are mine) then I don't know of a better "current" tablet than the S3. The Pixel C is still pretty awesome. I marginally prefer the S3 because of the haptic feedback and slightly better screen, but it's not a huge difference. I have no complaints about the S3.
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Android tablets get a lot of hate for reasons I don't understand. If Android tablets are your preference (as they are mine) then I don't know of a better "current" tablet than the S3. The Pixel C is still pretty awesome. I marginally prefer the S3 because of the haptic feedback and slightly better screen, but it's not a huge difference. I have no complaints about the S3.
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I agree. I'm not into the Apple environment and came off an iPhone 3GS back in the day when I migrated to Android and been Android ever since. My Tab S3 is fantastic and does what I need it to do which is taking notes. I work in IT so it is a lot of diagrams and drawings so being able to quickly draw out an infrastructure diagram and have it posted to my laptop in a PDF or JPEG is just like magic. And when I need to I have the keyboard cover so I can quickly type out notes without needing my laptop. The only thing I lack is being able to VPN into work (because my employer won't support BYOD) but the bluetooth transfer of docs to my work laptop is what resolves that issue for me.
price drop on the Tab S3 across the board right now
B&H
Bestbuy
Amazon
all selling the tablet for $449.99
I just bought one of these from Verizon, on a 2-yr plan, for $299 . . . new Samsung Keyboard cover was $67 through Amazon . . . I'm thinking that this is a pretty good deal . . . maybe available at these prices because the Tab S4 is coming soon?
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I just bought one of these from Verizon, on a 2-yr plan, for $299 . . . new Samsung Keyboard cover was $67 through Amazon . . . I'm thinking that this is a pretty good deal . . . maybe available at these prices because the Tab S4 is coming soon?
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or maybe to fire a shot over the bow as Apple announces their new iPad?
if this is part of the strategy, i can see Samsung dropping the Tab S4 bomb in Q2 ...