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Wondering if the setting for Automatic screen brightness is bad for you all? What im talking about is that my screen brightness is not changing accordingly to light/dark environment, it's basically always on medium. Can my phone be broken or is this normal?
Also experience screen drop outs where it's stop responding to touch input, it sits like that for short period of time and will start responding again. It seems not like a frequent problem but happens now and again since I bought it last week.
Last but not least, im experiencing some forms....in lack of words, "processor" straining if I have all 20 Xbox games installed and a lot of apps and music. Seems that the less memory the more chopy everything become. Even with a lot removed from storage and having, like 7GB free its a bit choppy, but the problem will increase expanding to less increased memory. Just open Games and looking at the avatar you can see lagg in his movments. I feely like with a clean phone I never saw that.
Now worth noting is I am VERY picky when it comes to lagg/choppiness/Screen flickerings. This phone is brand new and I come from a Omnia 7. While surfing the Webb is a incredible experience, its so smooth, I feel that start menu scrolling, avatar movements etc is choppy and almost, as bad? as a first gen device. Game performance seems to be better on the Titan compared to my old Omnia 7. But on a lot of areas it seems my Omnia 7 is on par with the Titan. This is a new gen device, shouldn't I experience a lot of difference.
Now, anybody got some thoughts about this? Any feedback/help is appreciated.
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Me
The amount of used/free storage has very little to do with the performance of the phone. More than likely, its simply the phone needing to download and load data that is causing some of the stuttering you are seeing, which is the most common culprit of performance hiccups. The storage memory is not the same thing as the memory used to run the phone/apps/games. A common misconception.
Slow data connections/downloads in combination with the inability for the phone to load all your information instantly is probably the lag you are seeing (or even, the phone IS trying to load all your data at once). It is more apparent in 3rd party apps, but its the same as any device trying to load data.
If it really is to the point where its unbearable, it may very well be that your device is defective. I don't have any major issues with freezing/stuttering/lag on any of my Windows Phone devices. Its a bit more noticeable on my 1st gen devices, but its largely eliminated on my 2nd gen devices. A little bit of stuttering here and there is completely normal for any device though.
Thnx for the input. I can't tell what's the reason behind it, but my Omnua was the same. To many Tiles and the start screen will get choppy etc.
Nobody have any trouble with the screen brightness and phone freezing for a short period? Many small things I never noticed on my Omnia 7, and I thought that phone wasn't all there. If all small problems is here in scared for the survival of WP if phones get worse. If there to. Ompete with Apple plz give solid performance.... I feel disappointed :'(
I've a ton of live tiles and no start screen lag. Maybe your device is defective?
or maybe my standards are 2 high. It can't be a coincidence that my Omnia 7, Lumia 800 and now my Titan is doing the same thing...but that is a WP7 issue. Currently is automatic screen brightness my worst concerns, and if dark room or sunlight don't really change on your phones, then I know its a standard Titan issue, if not, I need to send it back for repairs. And maybe the screen freezing I have is connected to the sensor is broken. I have no clue so .....if you cover your phones top, or put a strong light on it, does your brightness change?
screen freezing should probably be more accurately be called screen drop out, like its disconnected some how. Haven't happend for 1-2 days now.
I remember my old HD2 was reported with broken screens as a flaw and people had to send in a lot of there devices before it was fixed. Kind of scared its typical bad HTC quality playing its thing?
Autobrightness - known bug
Screen stutter - tried SRS-off?
Start screen lag - ghosting
Screen drop - lock-unlock screen, known bug for some handsets.
It's all in the sticky of FAQs.
I can fill my screen with tons of tiles too and get absolutely no lag.
I think really the best way for any of us to tell you whether or not the type of lag you are experiencing is normal would be to take video. Use the phone as you normally would, take some video of you doing it, and clearly we should be able to see any weird lag issues.
But again, a little bit of lag, on any device, is totally normal. It may be that you are just too picky. I imagine that using Android would totally kill you since the lag there gets out of hand at times.
Problem is, while you may think its Windows Phone in general because it has happened to the last 3 of your devices, the rest of us here experience little to no lag with our devices, which would rule out that it is just a Windows Phone problem. It may be the way you set your phone up that it causing some kind of lag, totally possible, since everyone sets up their device in different ways. And more than likely, you have set your phone up a certain way every time you move to a new device, because that's just how you set it up.
Thanx for all the great input and maybe im just picky.
Great FAQ thread, sorry for not seeing it, but I would give you the tip to rename it to somthing more...boring? :-D. All I saw was FAQ and noob and then my interest was gone, sorry for that, usually see em and they always rock so thnx for a nice post. As a naming tip. FAQ: HTC TITAN: current Information/issues/solutions.
Maybe just me but in sorry i missed your FAQ. Keep upp the work and nice to know its basically HTC screwing up again, when will they learn. (Miss my Omnia 7)
also, feel free to delete this thread if you consider name change ...lol, just trying to be kind and frank.
Nakazul said:
Thanx for all the great input and maybe im just picky.
Great FAQ thread, sorry for not seeing it, but I would give you the tip to rename it to somthing more...boring? :-D. All I saw was FAQ and noob and then my interest was gone, sorry for that, usually see em and they always rock so thnx for a nice post. As a naming tip. FAQ: HTC TITAN: current Information/issues/solutions.
Maybe just me but in sorry i missed your FAQ. Keep upp the work and nice to know its basically HTC screwing up again, when will they learn. (Miss my Omnia 7)
also, feel free to delete this thread if you consider name change ...lol, just trying to be kind and frank.
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No problem mate! I've changed it
I think HTC din't just mess up in general. It was the first batch (Oct/Nov purchases) that had the most issues and plenty with ATT. In the UK if you got something from first batch off CarPhone Warehouse - you would see those freezes and lags. However, I swapped mine just before December and no issues after that. The ghosting is common with ALL HTCs. Android, Windows - doesn't matter. It's their S-LCD/LCD screens.
hehe okay. Just bought mine of Expansys and they were waiting to get em in to stock so was hoping to skip first wave. Any ways to see which rendition I have? Hmm I will go to the FAQ after your reply so delite this thread in awhile then, its no good when there is a FAQ, especially as good as the one there is.
I just came back from Warped Tour and I'm checking out the videos I recorded...these videos are actually legit. The quality looks damn good and the sound is ****in sick. I hate myself for the way I was holding my phone though because I can tell when I was cupping it wrong but other than that, it sounds damn good (and I'm super picky when it comes to audio).
On top of that...phone was unplugged since 8 AM...right now I'm at home with 8%...I'm shocked. Running all stock...no root. Good job HTC.
Wooo Dallas!
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Wooo Dallas!
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Haha hell yeah!
This phone is actually, gradually pissing me off each day.. Great to hear your liking it. It does take great photos.
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Another stock user.
This is finally a phone that I have no problem running stock. I have gotten used to the 3 dot menu bar, which will be fixed in an update soon anyway. Everything is just great. Using the OG Evo stock on Froyo was a terrible experience because the battery life was horrendous. The Evo 3D was laggy and also had poor battery life. But this phone... this phone is smooth and lasts long. Everything about it is just... good.
Until a JB ROM is available, I probably won't root.
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
ms79723 said:
Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this
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Spoken like a true virgin.
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BrianBaker said:
This phone is actually, gradually pissing me off each day.. Great to hear your liking it. It does take great photos.
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Why is that? I remember you were loving it when you first got it
KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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About half of those issues are still there after you root ..but I still love her for some reason..Although I am starting to wanna use aosp more and more everyday.and I used to be a sense guy all the way..I just feel that stock has become more elegant than it used to be and sense is starting to remove essential functionality from android ie multitasking that should be no issue on a phone of this caliber..and I wish sense was as smooth as tw..but tw is an ugly stepsister to sense
Racer Of All said:
Why is that? I remember you were loving it when you first got it
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nothing that wont be fixed with development.
My main reason for not enjoying this phone is that any time I play a game or watch you tube for a while Sense has to reload a lot when going back to the home screen.
Also after installing or updating apps the phone tends to get really bogged down for 15-20 seconds..Im just coming to the realization that Sense(although slimmed down) is still a fat ***** that causes more bad then good.
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Spoken like a true virgin.
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yessir!
BrianBaker said:
nothing that wont be fixed with development.
My main reason for not enjoying this phone is that any time I play a game or watch you tube for a while Sense has to reload a lot when going back to the home screen.
Also after installing or updating apps the phone tends to get really bogged down for 15-20 seconds..Im just coming to the realization that Sense(although slimmed down) is still a fat ***** that causes more bad then good.
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I'm slowly realizing the same thing about Sense too...it really is trying to mess up the experience for me but there are just too many good things about this phone...
ms79723 said:
This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
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Bro- THANK YOU. I've been meaning to put something to that effect for two.weeks but hammered home(far more succinctly and lucid than I would) every issue I have . Of all of those I think the rerendering when you come off an app then return to it-however brief it just shouldn't happen at this point. Nice post, and , being a solutions oriented gentleman a la woody Paige, I just hope these issues get addressed promptly in our very productive community.
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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Bro- THANK YOU. I've been meaning to put something to that effect for two.weeks but hammered home(far more succinctly and lucid than I would) every issue I have . Of all of those I think the rerendering when you come off an app then return to it-however brief it just shouldn't happen at this point. Nice post, and , being a solutions oriented gentleman a la woody Paige, I just hope these issues get addressed promptly in our very productive community.
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KEYofR said:
Problems with stock:
* google wallet doesn't work
* tapping an address in a web page almost never brings up the maps app like it always does on og evo, instead it brings up the web google maps which is slow and battery killer
* phone numbers and addresses are generally less often automatically recognized than they were on the og evo. I often have to manually copy, home, open other app, paste
* the browser search/address bar doesn't clear itself when you want to enter something new. You have to backspace through a zillion character long url and query string, or long-press until the edit panel comes up, choose select-all, then choose cut, THEN you can finally type in you're web site or search term. Or you can set your home page to google and keep going menu->home. This was somehow never a problem on the og evo.
* multiple actions popup menu on a detected structure disabled thanks to Apple. If you tap on a phone number, you don't get a useful "dial, add to contacts, share, copy, etc" menu. Instead it just dials.
* menu button. Saying it will be fixed is meaningless. So many things were never fixed for the entire lives of so many phones and other devices. My $2000 Sony Vaio P still has no workable video driver, not even for windows let alone linux, and the thing is completely obsolete by now. Htc could fix the menu button ONLY by faking a hardware menu button which they may not even be able to do because Google probably has to vet the os and they won't ok that as it's opposite of ics policy. App developers are supposed to update their apps. Htc can't update everyone elses apps. So the menu button is here to stay.
* multitasking. Apps restart instead of resuming, web pages load and render from scratch just because you had to switch to some other app for a second. This _could_ be taken as a normal compromise for a tiny handheld computer, except we've all already owned phones, even old ones from years ago with much less ram and much less cpu that did a lot better. Even iphones are better. Og evo was better. Palm Pre was better. Palm Treo was better!
* you have a dual-core cpu, but you're only using one core. No performance or on-demand option, no option to use both cores when plugged in (better car/navigation, faster syncing or backups while docked, etc)
And of course there are the hardware / firmware problems that doesn't matter if you're stock or not:
* wifi hand-off bug
* cell radio low signal and inconsistent signal
* no extra capacity battery possible since no removable battery or replaceable battery cover. I have to carry around a mophie juice pack and a usb cable! Sooo elegant and portable!
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And guess what? Almost none of those things apply to me because I don't use them. Menu button has already been fixed on the One X, so it will be fixed here. And so on.
I like that this is the first HTC phone that doesn't need SBC kernels
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I like that this is the first HTC phone that doesn't need SBC kernels
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Hahaha yup! Glad to see you on here man
ms79723 said:
This is one of those posts where I'm confused...I don't actually know what you're trying to gain from it...Do you want me to root? I'll root when I'm good and ready...right now I'm enjoying this phone and my stock experience. Just came back from an iPhone and I'm just happy to be back with Android. I have no desire to root because there's nothing wrong with stock. The problems you pointed out aren't even really problems...and if small things like the ones you mentioned are enough to tip you over...then idk how you'll ever be happy. Just enjoy the phone
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I'm not trying to gain anything, or rather, what were you trying to "gain" from your original post?
I don't care what you do or don't do.
You basically said "everything is fine" and pointed out a few reasons why you think so. And I said "no it's not" and pointed out a few reasons why I don't think so. It's called discussion.
I agree the phone is more or less functional and usable out of the box. So what? If that is good enough for you then I submit you have low standards and are possibly bad at math because you can get that for a lot cheaper than this phone with a much better actual phone since even the cheapest dumbphone has a pretty good working cell radio, you know, being it's primary reason for existing and all.
I have the capacity to be laid back and not sweat things I can't change just as you seem to. That's a great virtue to have. Congratulations. But I personally paid full out of pocket price for a lot more than the basics. Of course I know early adopters suffer the shakedown period. That in no way excuses HTC, because, this thing was not sold to us as a beta test unit. It was sold as a product. They are obligated to deliver that product.
Saying everything is great, when it's not, doesn't help anyone. It doesn't get problems fixed, it doesn't let HTC and Sprint know they are failing to deliver and pissing off customers.
As for being laid back, well hell why do you assume I'm not? This is just a web forum post man not some major part of my life. I'm on vacation in Key West if you must know, idly killing time playing with my phone because that's what Key West is about, just chilling and hanging out by the pool. or the beach. or Willie T's on Duval st. My girl is in the pool chatting with the other guests in the pool and none of us has a lick of clothes on. You see it's possible to recognize something needs a lot of improvement, and care about it, _even_ while at the same time recognizing it's place in the grand scheme.
Caring about things in general has an important, a very important place in the grand scheme. At the moment it's this phone. But it's not that this phone litterally itself is so important.
Enjoy your phone if you do.
But if you ask why everyone seems to have complaints, there are reasons. Beleive it or not, it's not just because everyone is just that ridiculously anal.
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I'm not trying to gain anything, or rather, what were you trying to "gain" from your original post?
I don't care what you do or don't do.
You basically said "everything is fine" and pointed out a few reasons why you think so. And I said "no it's not" and pointed out a few reasons why I don't think so. It's called discussion.
I agree the phone is more or less functional and usable out of the box. So what? If that is good enough for you then I submit you have low standards and are possibly bad at math because you can get that for a lot cheaper than this phone with a much better actual phone since even the cheapest dumbphone has a pretty good working cell radio, you know, being it's primary reason for existing and all.
I have the capacity to be laid back and not sweat things I can't change just as you seem to. That's a great virtue to have. Congratulations. But I personally paid full out of pocket price for a lot more than the basics. Of course I know early adopters suffer the shakedown period. That in no way excuses HTC, because, this thing was not sold to us as a beta test unit. It was sold as a product. They are obligated to deliver that product.
Saying everything is great, when it's not, doesn't help anyone. It doesn't get problems fixed, it doesn't let HTC and Sprint know they are failing to deliver and pissing off customers.
As for being laid back, well hell why do you assume I'm not? This is just a web forum post man not some major part of my life. I'm on vacation in Key West if you must know, idly killing time playing with my phone because that's what Key West is about, just chilling and hanging out by the pool. or the beach. or Willie T's on Duval st. My girl is in the pool chatting with the other guests in the pool and none of us has a lick of clothes on. You see it's possible to recognize something needs a lot of improvement, and care about it, _even_ while at the same time recognizing it's place in the grand scheme.
Caring about things in general has an important, a very important place in the grand scheme. At the moment it's this phone. But it's not that this phone litterally itself is so important.
Enjoy your phone if you do.
But if you ask why everyone seems to have complaints, there are reasons. Beleive it or not, it's not just because everyone is just that ridiculously anal.
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I just got back from Key West! What in the world hotel are you at though? Didn't see any clothing optional ones, haha. Only saw the clothing optional bar (Garden of Eden) over on Duval. Nice relaxing place, Key West is. Spent 5 days there. We stayed at The Inn at Key West, which has the largest pool on the island. It was pretty awesome.
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I bought the 920 on weds..just returned today. The first one the shop had was DoA but the guy gave me another meant for another customer.The phone is top notch quality albeit on the heavier side. Camera placement in the center is not ideal and the phone could slip out of your hands..but its built like a tank. Screen is excellent and call quality is clear . Despite the weight it feels really good...better than the iphone 5 which i also have and night and day against any samsung phone (i had note 2 as well). Now the bad news.
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
Once I got my account setup..you cant change it unless you do a hard reset. So you are basically locked to that account. So if you have one older MS live account and a newer one , you wont be able to switch. This is the most retarded thing out. On android and iOs you can have many accounts as you want. I have a US, UK account which I like to use.
Anyway the first thing I did was go to the app store to download essentials such as Whatsapp , skype etc since nowadays we dont really talk anymore on the phone but message.Skype was ok and it has a special interface coz MS owns it. Whatsapp was a disaster, First time it took forever to load my contacts then say i had no contacts. 2nd time i got it to work but no video uploads. the interface is not as easy as on ios or droid. This is by no means MS fault but they should have checked to see if it works on newer phones. But I guess theres the rub. MS win 8 mobile has such a low user base, developers treat updates with the lowest priority. The app store has hotch potch skeleton app selection. You wont find spotify there but Nokia Music fills the gap albeit a poor substitute. I use my phone as music player first and foremost so music lovers will be disappointed. The MS sync tool with itunes is very bad. Playlists and songs werent copied and album art missing.
The microsoft email client is not as good as ios . You can change fonts and html messaged dont look as clean. I dont take many pics so didnt really try out the camera. But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
Surfing was an ok experience..windows wouldnt auto resize so most of the time you would get really small fonts.
Movies were good as display is excellent.. For some reason it also just shutdown completely last night (with 70% battery) and it took a soft reset to get it going again. The live tiles system is different and people who are tired of ios or droid may find this unique but the novelty factor wears off since not all tiles are live. The UI is smooth and there was no lag. Also little things like no batt percentage and some youtube videos wouldnt play (vevo) as it recognized win8 as mobile device. This works on ios and droid.
Bottom line...it wasnt a keeper since there are so many bugs to iron out.
Pros
beautiful high quality constructed phone. better than iphone5, htc/samsung note2 s3 etc
good yellow color
good UI..smooth
Cons
Win 8 mobile- THE BIGGEST reason why i returned it.
Camera placement
Apps (im not a heavy app user but the basic ones dont even work properly)
Slightly heavy to hold
It may be good for ppl who take a lot of photos since the camera is supposed to be the best on any phone..apart from that..would advise you to stay away until the win8 bugs are sorted.
PS i think Nokia/MS is desperate so they restricted supply to make it look as if the phone is hot and to get the buzz going. I really wanted to like it but couldnt get past the crap win 8 mobile. If the phone had droid or ios then it would be.. Also I think MS is padding the user reviews to make people buy it...
I set up my mail and main account in less than 5 minutes on my 920. It synced perfectly and pulled down all my contacts, calendar, and photo.
Music syncing wasn't quite as smooth, but I got it working. I do agree about having only one main account and not being able to change it seems stupid.
As for apps, they are coming, but I have noticed some developers putting out subpar WP8 apps while their iOS and Android are fine. I blame the developers for that crap. It's inexcusable.
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Hmm that's funny...
I have an adriod tablet... gmail account and credit card needed for the marketplace... hmm Sounds like an iPhone where an Apple id is required to use the iCrap. Same issue there. Now, I do have one customer that has a Blackberr..... uh nope just switched to a 920. Just saying, your first point has me wondering where else it is any different. The comparison to iOS, eh... one thing I don't have an issue wit on the phone is text size and reading all that, but you do realize you can change that in the settings!!!! This was a change over WP7. Yes there are some subpar apps, but that's what sets WP apart so much of the phone will do what you need 10 apps to do on iOS and Andriod. I can do most of what you do faster on any other platform. However, this is all a preference argument and I personally don't have an app hard on. I had to help a customer settle in coming from her iPhone, but we set up her outlook to use her Micosoft accout for her contacts and calander. She is all setup like if she had excange server at home without changing her other email address. There is a learning curve with any switch... you made one when you bought your first iPhone. You are not buying a new iPhone, it is a new platform.
iujona said:
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
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I'm sorry you had such a hard time setting an account. In my case, it look me less than 2 mins. It would have been much easier for you to create an account on your computer and then just sign-in with your phone. Wish WP8 provided a "hint" like this to those who are completely new to this ecosystem.
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I'm sorry you had such a hard time setting an account. In my case, it look me less than 2 mins. It would have been much easier for you to create an account on your computer and then just sign-in with your phone. Wish WP8 provided a "hint" like this to those who are completely new to this ecosystem.
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Completely agree.. iCrap forces you to do it that way... the device does not even power on without initially hooking it up and setting it up with iTunes on a computer. I think Micrsoft could recomend it on that first setup screen. If you already have an MS account you don't need to go to the computer at all.... so at least with WP8 you can skip that step and have everything setup before you get home. Just when you thought that would be a feature!
OP, I feel your pain. I like my Nokia 920, but am starting to get cold feet because of the apps. One example, I drive a Toyota it uses ENTUNE, there is no app and possibly will never be fully compatible. ALso things like HBO GO and such. I dont use them much on a phone anyway, but I still miss it. And as my cable company adds Video Apps, they take forever to get to Android, how long until they even acknowledge WP8?? My Son is a college athlete, whats the odds his schools app will have a WP8 version? Again, I do like the phone, if I didnt also use a 7" Galaxy Tab, I probably would have returned it. However, the new Galaxy Note 2 is tempting me to switch phones again...
While the setup on mine was easy, I'll be returning it today for one big reason...the camera. Granted, I knew going in that they camera has problems in daylight shots, but I figured I'd give it a try in the real world and see how my results turned out. Honestly, even worse than I expected. I also have the SIII and this thing can't hold a candle to it's camera. Maybe Nokia fixes it with a software update, but what if they don't? I'd rather return it and wait and see rather than keep it, go beyond my return window, and be stuck with such a crappy camera that never gets fixed.
He's a comparison shot I did this morning. The 920 picture looks like it's been run through some sort of cartoon editing software. Look at the tree on the right with the dead leaves still on it compared to the shot from the SIII. Insanity.
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/peJcI.jpg[/ItMG]
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q4gUU.jpg[/tIMG]
The colors are alright, but there's absolutely NO clarity. Just awful. So, for now, while I love the phone in every other regard, I'll be returning it and waiting to see if the camera gets fixed.
set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
KentuckyHouse said:
While the setup on mine was easy, I'll be returning it today for one big reason...the camera. Granted, I knew going in that they camera has problems in daylight shots, but I figured I'd give it a try in the real world and see how my results turned out. Honestly, even worse than I expected. I also have the SIII and this thing can't hold a candle to it's camera. Maybe Nokia fixes it with a software update, but what if they don't? I'd rather return it and wait and see rather than keep it, go beyond my return window, and be stuck with such a crappy camera that never gets fixed.
He's a comparison shot I did this morning. The 920 picture looks like it's been run through some sort of cartoon editing software. Look at the tree on the right with the dead leaves still on it compared to the shot from the SIII. Insanity.
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[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/peJcI.jpg[/ItMG]
SIII:
[tIMG]http://i.imgur.com/Q4gUU.jpg[/tIMG]
The colors are alright, but there's absolutely NO clarity. Just awful. So, for now, while I love the phone in every other regard, I'll be returning it and waiting to see if the camera gets fixed.
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Yeah, I have seen a couple of those shots show up, but the majority of shots put the SIII to shame. Go indors and take some shots without the flash (turn it off) And yes the Lumia 900 had some simular issues and yep that got an update right away. The cam went from lackluster to pretty damn good. The pictures consistantly came out better than my transforer prime tablet which had a decent camera.
dgmhunt said:
set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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Hmm, I set mine up in the store while waiting for the receipt to be printed. But I did already have a .live account. I didn't have to input a credit card because if I buy anything I just add it to my ATT bill. Very unlike my iPad where Apple insists I have a CC on file.
As for locking you into one specific account, well, that's no different from Apple. I can't change my Apple ID either.
And apps? Well, I find that the OS does just about anything I need without specific apps. Whereas I find IOS not much more than a glorified 'app launcher'.
Don't get me wrong. I love my iPad. But I expect something more and different from my phone. I expect my phone to simplify my life and frankly I find this OS does that. I was a 'flashacholic' when I had previous windows phones so I really considered a new Android phone. But frankly WP8 is a dream to use.
OP, sorry you had such a hard time. I had the same hard time the first times tried to set up my first iPad. This comes from being familiar with an OS. Other OSs feel 'wrong'. The 920 isn't for everyone, nor is WinPhone 8, nor is IOS or even Android.
Ain't choice great!
awagner said:
Yeah, I have seen a couple of those shots show up, but the majority of shots put the SIII to shame. Go indors and take some shots without the flash (turn it off) And yes the Lumia 900 had some simular issues and yep that got an update right away. The cam went from lackluster to pretty damn good. The pictures consistantly came out better than my transforer prime tablet which had a decent camera.
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That's the thing... I don't shoot indoor shots often. The camera is something I use in my job and those are outdoor shots. Great phone, but the camera software needs some work.
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Agreed, and far, FAR beyond iPhone, which I ran with for over 2 years.
As for setting up the Microsoft account, I don't see how anyone could have a problem with it. More importantly, if you know you have to set one up...do it on your PC, not your phone. That's just common sense, or so I'd guess.
Windows Phone 8 is, hands down, the best mobile OS I've ever used, and I've used them all.
dgmhunt said:
set up hotmail, gmail, and facebook in seconds, downloaded my contacts from google having migrated from bustedrobot, besides the lack of apps (as its has been repeated their coming) wipes the floor with bustedrobot and i-crap and anything from RIM. easily the best phone ive owned in years
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That's the thing... I don't shoot indoor shots often. The camera is something I use in my job and those are outdoor shots. Great phone, but the camera software needs some work.
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If that is the case, the Lumia has the most potential. The limitations are on the way the phone is processing the pictures (software) not a limitation on hardware. Hardware you can't change, software you can. Every phone today gets tweeked with after it's initial release. The 920 will be no different. The stabilization works, the low light performance works... Give them a chance to update and if it still doesn't perform... something better will be out there or coming out.
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If that is the case, the Lumia has the most potential. The limitations are on the way the phone is processing the pictures (software) not a limitation on hardware. Hardware you can't change, software you can. Every phone today gets tweeked with after it's initial release. The 920 will be no different. The stabilization works, the low light performance works... Give them a chance to update and if it still doesn't perform... something better will be out there or coming out.
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I absolutely agree the Lumia has tons of potential. And I'm sure they'll put out an update to the software to fix the camera. That's why I returned mine to wait until they do. I can promise you, once they fix it and the reviews start pouring in that the camera is good to go, I'll be picking another one up. Other than the camera software, this phone is amazing.
But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
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Youre dont mean the focus-assist lighting? You know, the light that makes your camera able to focus on things it might normally be too dark for it to focus on? Cause thats not flash.
I never take a picture of my fingers. Also, pressing on the screen to take a photo could help you out if you feel its too heavy to hold while using the manual button.
Personally the WP8 experience is on par with the experience I had on my SGS3 with android 4.1.
I like the homescreen far more than on Android, and the way social and email is integrated with the native apps like messaging, contacts, etcetera.
I dont like IE10 as much as Chrome, but thats MOSTLY because of how IE10 handles doubletap to zoom and textwrapping plus certain messageboards. Why no mobile browser besides the microB-browser has had swirlzooming is beyond me.
All in all, the 920 is better for me than the SGS3, and Id choose it over SGS3 any day of the week.
iujona said:
I bought the 920 on weds..just returned today. The first one the shop had was DoA but the guy gave me another meant for another customer.The phone is top notch quality albeit on the heavier side. Camera placement in the center is not ideal and the phone could slip out of your hands..but its built like a tank. Screen is excellent and call quality is clear . Despite the weight it feels really good...better than the iphone 5 which i also have and night and day against any samsung phone (i had note 2 as well). Now the bad news.
Windows 8 mobile sucks!!! It took me an hour to setup my windows live or is it hotmail account. When I first setup it thought I was a child and gave me the round around telling me to check with family controls etc. Also I needed to put my credit card details etc just to access the app store. This process was also confusing since it redirected to the awful internet explorer mobile on the phone where the fonts were so small I couldnt see damn thing. Resizing the web page was cumbersome at best. I tried a few times...and i was so frustrated i felt like throwing the phone against the wall. In the end I did a hard reset and after more mucking around and searching on forums I got it working. But it was like pulling teeth.
Once I got my account setup..you cant change it unless you do a hard reset. So you are basically locked to that account. So if you have one older MS live account and a newer one , you wont be able to switch. This is the most retarded thing out. On android and iOs you can have many accounts as you want. I have a US, UK account which I like to use.
Anyway the first thing I did was go to the app store to download essentials such as Whatsapp , skype etc since nowadays we dont really talk anymore on the phone but message.Skype was ok and it has a special interface coz MS owns it. Whatsapp was a disaster, First time it took forever to load my contacts then say i had no contacts. 2nd time i got it to work but no video uploads. the interface is not as easy as on ios or droid. This is by no means MS fault but they should have checked to see if it works on newer phones. But I guess theres the rub. MS win 8 mobile has such a low user base, developers treat updates with the lowest priority. The app store has hotch potch skeleton app selection. You wont find spotify there but Nokia Music fills the gap albeit a poor substitute. I use my phone as music player first and foremost so music lovers will be disappointed. The MS sync tool with itunes is very bad. Playlists and songs werent copied and album art missing.
The microsoft email client is not as good as ios . You can change fonts and html messaged dont look as clean. I dont take many pics so didnt really try out the camera. But even when i turned flash off the flash was still on for some reason. The lens placement in the center of the phone meant that you would take shots of your fingers instead. Since the phone is heavy it was hard to just hold the bottom half to take pics. They should put the lens on the top left/right.
Surfing was an ok experience..windows wouldnt auto resize so most of the time you would get really small fonts.
Movies were good as display is excellent.. For some reason it also just shutdown completely last night (with 70% battery) and it took a soft reset to get it going again. The live tiles system is different and people who are tired of ios or droid may find this unique but the novelty factor wears off since not all tiles are live. The UI is smooth and there was no lag. Also little things like no batt percentage and some youtube videos wouldnt play (vevo) as it recognized win8 as mobile device. This works on ios and droid.
Bottom line...it wasnt a keeper since there are so many bugs to iron out.
Pros
beautiful high quality constructed phone. better than iphone5, htc/samsung note2 s3 etc
good yellow color
good UI..smooth
Cons
Win 8 mobile- THE BIGGEST reason why i returned it.
Camera placement
Apps (im not a heavy app user but the basic ones dont even work properly)
Slightly heavy to hold
It may be good for ppl who take a lot of photos since the camera is supposed to be the best on any phone..apart from that..would advise you to stay away until the win8 bugs are sorted.
PS i think Nokia/MS is desperate so they restricted supply to make it look as if the phone is hot and to get the buzz going. I really wanted to like it but couldnt get past the crap win 8 mobile. If the phone had droid or ios then it would be.. Also I think MS is padding the user reviews to make people buy it...
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Got a Lumia 920 yesterday for my wife (not a technically savvy person at all!) Once she had her bearings (about 5 minutes navigating around) it took her less than 5 minutes to set up all her e-mails. There was no need to give any credit card information, and the camera is really good in low lights... compared it to my S2. Daylight shots are a little washed out, but READ! a camera firmware patch is coming soon. Tech specs on the camera are really good, and so is the screen... these two and the solid constructions are the reason i opted for this phone. Pretty sure others would agree.
And in conclusion, if it took you over an hour to set up email, it's a good thing you returned this phone. I would highly recommend staying miles away from Android or Windows devices; a Leap-frog or an Apple product would work best for you.
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I read a post about how amazing Night mode was. So I played around with the scenes Close Ups, Cloudy, and Night Mode. So often, that stuff is just a gimmick, not on this phone!
I returned my Lumia 900 cause it was hard for me to transition from Android and it was lacking. I gave the 920 and WP8 another chance and never looked backed. It's restricted compared to how you have so much customization you can do on Android, but the 920 is far from being some kind of wash out. The stabilization of the camera is one of the best I've seen. I've take shots compared to my HTC One X and the stability feature is awesome.
Personally I love a heavy set phone. Gives me the feel of sturdiness. I've always liked heavier phone.
The screen in day light is simply the best thing I have ever seen. The way the color tones adjust to bright light is incredible. Even with the top down on my car I can see the screen crystal clear.
The speaker on this thing is SUPER loud. Louder than my Nexus 7. The EQ on this thing absolutely smashes anything my One X Beats Audio could dish out. It's even better than any EQ feature on Android 3rd party apps like Power Amp. When I adjust the EQ it adjust.
It took me minutes to set up my Live, Google, LinkedIn, Yahoo, NetZero, and Hotmail Account. The integration is very nice in how it works together.
I have my quarrels with WP8, but it's super stable and nicely integrated with apps optimized for it's ecosystem.
IMHO WP8 is at the point of what Froyo was for Android. One of those landmark version that will get this OS out in the wild.
Sorry to hear you not like it, I can understand as I been there with the 900, but I can't justify it with the 920. The apps will come, the stability will come, the updates to software will come.
I've actually had the worse upgrade of JB on my Nexus 7 when they fixed the bugs of forgetting to December in the calendar. And to be quite frank my 920 process faster than my One X with the same processor and my Nexus 7. I'll never stop using Android, but I'll never say WP8 sucks. There's no way.
I agree with OP regarding the email client; 1 account is not enought. For the rest i can only say that i setup my phone in 5 minutes with no problems at all. Using my 920 since 2 weeks, coming from an iphone4 and no regrets at all.
Hi,
I had been awaiting the Gear S arrival forever...I almost gave up on it with the lack of information and when the Asus was supposed to come out the very same day, I was very uncertain which was the watch for me. In the end, the Gear S was available from T-Mobile (my carrier) and the Asus was nowhere to be found at BestBuy, so I bought the GearS.
It has been a long time since I have looked forward to getting any kind of new IT device. I had been looking into smart watches for a few months and this is my first one, here my first thoughts and impressions:
Size/Attention Getter:
It is big. I am female, 5'6" but I don't think it is too big. Other people may disagree, but it is just super-cool, techie looking.
It is not great with every outfit, though. I can already imagine there may be times I would prefer a different looking one. T-Mobile had only the black bands at the time, perhaps different bands in the future ay make a difference.
Watch faces:
Nowhere in their pre-launch advertising did I see a hint that the watch faces don't stay as is to save battery power. I liked the stock watch faces it came with (the dark blue and white one) and when I realized those are not on display all the time, I was disappointed. Now I have gotten used to it. Picking a watch face means you need to like its "alter ego" in power savings mode too, because you may end up seeing it more than the regular one. Fortunately, the white stock face has a nice alter ego, so I am ok with it now. Initially was a bit of a let down, though.
Apps:
I had no pre-conceived idea as to which is better, Android Wear of Tizen. Heard there were fewer apps in Tizen, but then, how many would I realistically run using my watch anyway? Well, I still don't know if waiting for the Asus would have been the smarter choice, but the first time I looked into the Gear S appstore, I was really disappointed. One particular bit in the Asus pre-launch movie was the ability to control presentations with your watch. How cool does that sound? Well, nothing like that in the Tizen App store. Later, they all of a sudden showed up, but for some very strange reason, initially there were very few. Again, bit of a let down at first that got better at the end of the week when I took another look. Still hoping more useful things will show up in there eventually.
Notifications:
I have to admit, the advertising worked like a charm on me, I never paid enough attention to details. E.g. facebook "notifications" vs. a "facebook app". After the initial "how awesome is this" feeling, a few days later I became a bit annoyed when I could see someone had posted something, but I could not see what.
Battery life:
It lasts me throughout the day. What more can I expect? I charge my phones (personal Note 3 and work Blackberry) every night, now I just add the Gear S to my evening ritual. One thing to make note of: I worked all day and then had to take a red-eye to the east coast. Even though I put the GearS in Airplane mode, I should have just turned it off altogether, 11hours on a plane, what was I thinking?
S Health:
Love the tracking of steps. I am not a runner, but it feels good to know I actually walk a lot more than I thought I did - after all, I don't take my phone with me just to walk into the kitchen, the garage or the back yard every time...
The Sleep Monitor is a bit more of a gimmick, IMHO. To clarify: the watch does not know if you are asleep or awake, it only knows you pushed a button confirming you are going to sleep now and when you pushed a button confirming you are awake now. In between it measures your movement. It kept me pretty much awake the first night with the display coming on and off every now and then...Since I have to charge it at night, I no longer use the sleep monitor.
S-Health does not sync with the S-Health app on my phone, but I never noticed it. I use S-Health more for monitoring the "moment" and do not look back over time...so it works for me.
Music Player:
no bad...but I sat on the beach the other day and could not hear it at all over the sound of the waves. Not a huge problem, since the waves are nice too...and the watch was never intended to replace a real sound system. I don't actually use it much on a day to day basis.
**** Tracey effect:
Walking my dogs and talking into my watch is awkward. Driving while talking on the watch is awesome! Forgot my hands-free device at home? No problem with the watch! I have a VW Diesel which can be a bit noisy inside and I could hear and be heard well.
Figuring out all needed settings:
The watch is a complicated device. There are so many different settings and ways one may use it, that I think many are having problems. I read all the issues other people had and was able to resolve mine with the help of this forum and others. I have both watch and phone on one carrier, have one of the recommended phones, so it was only a matter of time and preferences to get it set up. Here are a few that made a difference to me:
Getting all texts, calls all the time, regardless if sent to phone or watch: Here in the US, we do not have multi-Sim cards, so my watch has a different phone number than my phone. If I send a text from my watch while not connected to my phone, I know the person I sent this to will simply hit reply. If I reconnect via BT to my phone, it is important to have the setting for mobile networks set to always on. Otherwise you won't receive their response until you disconnect from BT later...
Call forwarding when connected remotely (not via BT) That one bugged me the most, it just did not seem to work. Turned out to be user error (isn't it almost always and I had accidently added my phone # and not the watch # in the Gear manager app on the phone as to where to enable call forwarding to.
For now, these are the things I have played with. I downloaded "Find my Car" (should be super helpful next time I park in a gigantic airport or Costco parking lot), Opera Mini, Yelp and a presentation aid "PreGear", but have not yet tried any of them out, since I have been traveling for work and was super busy. I will take a closer look at them later when I have more time.
What bugs me and has me still looking at the Asus Zen Watch
I am still bummed out over the facebook notifications. I have no idea if Android Wear works any differently and you can actually see what people posted, but I will take a closer look at that one when I see it for the first time.
My phone has a lock pattern. Many times if you want to see something on the Gear S, but can't, it will give you the option of "Show on device". Well, but it won't unlock my phone for me. Pain in the neck. I could have sworn I saw it can unlock your phone, but that may have been for a different smart watch.
Schedule: would be nice if I could figure out how to add anything to it, have not been able to yet. So for now, I have not a single appointment anywhere to be shown. Would be nice if true. There are other calendars one can download from the Gear App store, but I have not had enough time to look into which will work for me.
When getting onto an airplane I now have another device that I have to remember to put into airplane mode (2 phones, 1 iPad, 1 Kindle and now my watch! I don't mind too much, but if this list gets much longer, I will need to request advance boarding for the additional time it takes to do so lol
The band sometimes gets a bit uncomfortable when it is very warm outside.
It is a large, geeky device, while most of the time I think this is great, there will be others when I may prefer something more elegant.
I wished I could get my work emails on it but this may fall into the category "be careful what you wish for". We use Blackberries still but are moving to iPhones next year. There are no apps that allow me to connect to the BB Enterprise server. Even if they existed, chances are my work would not permit it anyway for security reasons...and why would I want to see 200+ emails on my wrist anyway, most of them containing attachments I would not be able to open...
That's it, sorry for the length, but perhaps someone can make a more informed buying decision, rather than the deeply emotional "I have to have it NOW" one I made! I probably would have still purchased it that day, but I would have saved myself the letdown factor when it simply did not do all the things I took for granted...
Thank you for your help. I'm trying to decide between the two myself
just a few things
bennie joe said:
What bugs me and has me still looking at the Asus Zen Watch
I am still bummed out over the facebook notifications. I have no idea if Android Wear works any differently and you can actually see what people posted, but I will take a closer look at that one when I see it for the first time.
My phone has a lock pattern. Many times if you want to see something on the Gear S, but can't, it will give you the option of "Show on device". Well, but it won't unlock my phone for me. Pain in the neck. I could have sworn I saw it can unlock your phone, but that may have been for a different smart watch.
Schedule: would be nice if I could figure out how to add anything to it, have not been able to yet. So for now, I have not a single appointment anywhere to be shown. Would be nice if true. There are other calendars one can download from the Gear App store, but I have not had enough time to look into which will work for me.
When getting onto an airplane I now have another device that I have to remember to put into airplane mode (2 phones, 1 iPad, 1 Kindle and now my watch! I don't mind too much, but if this list gets much longer, I will need to request advance boarding for the additional time it takes to do so lol
The band sometimes gets a bit uncomfortable when it is very warm outside.
It is a large, geeky device, while most of the time I think this is great, there will be others when I may prefer something more elegant.
I wished I could get my work emails on it but this may fall into the category "be careful what you wish for". We use Blackberries still but are moving to iPhones next year. There are no apps that allow me to connect to the BB Enterprise server. Even if they existed, chances are my work would not permit it anyway for security reasons...and why would I want to see 200+ emails on my wrist anyway, most of them containing attachments I would not be able to open...
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Very thorough. Just a few things.
Facebook [Notifications]: I've been playing around with the Tizen for Wearables SDK (software development kit). The Gear S and Gear devices employ something called Rich Notifications. What has to happen in order for Facebook to be able to provide more detailed information and interactivity for notifications that are pushed to the Gear S, is that Facebook (and the rest) need to update their app with the ability to work with Rich Notifications. The same goes for each and every other Android app developer/company. But ... whether they do that is up to them. If they don't see any value in it (if none of their users are asking for it, but are instead blaming Samsung--not saying you are at all), then they won't do it.
Lock pattern: There is a setting in Gear Manager on your phone that allows it. Open Gear Manager, scroll to the bottom and choose Settings. Scroll half-way down to Auto Lock and check the box.
Schedule: This is one of the Gear S's shortcomings. We used to be able to "add an event" using S-Voice on other Gear devices, but for some reason we can't with the Gear S. I can see all of the events on my calendar, but only because I use S-Planner. If you aren't using S-Planner, then your calendar won't "sync" with what's on the Gear S. The same goes for texts, email, and some other things. If you aren't using the TouchWiz (stock Samsung apps on the phone), then it won't play so nice with the Gear S. Same thing goes for using Samsung calendar and text messaging while owning and using an Android Wear device. Google has closed down what can be used fully with Android Wear, to their proprietary apps. The rest have limited functionality and display the same "Send to Phone" message to do anything interactive. That may change for both Samsung and Google, since they are starting to open up and release their SDKs, but while Samsung is opening up, Google is starting to tighten up.
Email: I think Samsung is working out the kinks with the Email situation ... but it could be a moment. The email app on the device isn't quite a stand-alone email application. When you add email accounts (e.g., corporate Exchange, which is what I do) through Gear Manager, for example, it also adds it to your phone ... so it's a bit of a challenge. The problem I have is that with it, I can't reply to or compose new email messages, though others with newer phones like the S5 and Note 4 can. There's a combination of Galaxy device model version, Android version, and Stock Email app version that causes variance in the available features when it comes to email. And it's aggravating. But we'll just have to wait and see what happens.
I didn't use use Android Wear for long, but while I did I found it to be too much like having Google Now on my wrist, and not enough of it being an actual extension of my phone or a productivity device. I don't know if that makes any sense ... But I did sell it after a few weeks of use because I found it to be of minimal use. Your mileage will certainly vary, but if you have the opportunity you should try to play around with an Android Wear device. You may be surprised. I won't say whether that will be positively or negatively ... but do try to check it out.
Thanks!
So how do you suggest users let e.g. Facebook know to change their ways? Any particular venue that might be more effective?
Thanks for the info on the lock pattern, I will check that out!
Have you tried Facebook in Opera Mini?
You can read and respond to Facebook messages in there.
bennie joe said:
Thanks!
So how do you suggest users let e.g. Facebook know to change their ways? Any particular venue that might be more effective?
Thanks for the info on the lock pattern, I will check that out!
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Twitter and official FaceBook support. Maybe the Gear S communities on FaceBook too. I don't use it so I really don't know! Also try hitting up Samsung Support on FaceBook.
Great post by the way. It will definitely be useful to some people who are on the fence.
New app "encouragement"
Thanks again for the suggestion of contacting the apps which I currently like on my android device. Oddly enough, it did not occur to me to contact them, since I figured why would they listen to me? But there is power in numbers!
I have reached out to 2 of my favorite apps, my fitness pal and facebook and will send more in the future as I miss using them on the Gear S.
Here is what I did:
For facebook:
On your profile page on my samsung Note 3 on the very bottom you have the option of reporting a problem. Then it breaks it down to 3 options: general feedback, Something isn't working and abusive content.
I chose something isn't working, because on my Gear s, it isn't I figured, general feedback receives a lot less attention than a reported problem...
My fitness pal:
Under help is a section FAQs/Feedback where you can send them emails. Done!
I encourage everybody to do the same with their favorite apps.. There is power in numbers and only if we reach out can our voice be heard! If developers do not know how many people are out there wanting to use their app on a specific platform, why would they bother spending time and resources on it! As long as everybody keeps the message positive and points out they already purchased the Gear S, they should listen and can actually measure demand ...
Yes, I just started using it last night, not a bad interim solution. Thanks for the tip!
Hello guys,
I'm here because im disperated guys.
I work with amazon flex, is a program from amazon that let you work as delivery driver with packages that people buy at amazon.com
The problem is this: there is a high demand of people working, and you just can work few hours per day just refreshing an app (amazon flex app at flex.amazon.com) and waiting that appears a block to click on that fast to have some hours to work. Due to many people working and trying to get blocks there, is really hard, also there people uses RepetiTouch application (including me) that lets you make repetitions and figure it out, more than 100 people using it, reduces possibilities to get blocks. I want some new method which somebody could give me, to be able to catch blocks faster than other people, I mean, some other better app than RepetiTocuh that lets you detect some in the screen (color detection, or letters detection, something crazy like that) and automatically click it or some way to get data before rest of people trying it. Do you have some method or other application that could recommend me that does what I said? some faster screen change detection that click fast on it.
thanks.