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Is there any way to roam at 3g Speeds on a competitors airwaves? for instance, I have zero coverage at work....but my buddy has perfect verizon. I can roam with really ****ty reception. Is there anything I can do to "force roam" at 3g speeds?
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Is there any way to roam at 3g Speeds on a competitors airwaves? for instance, I have zero coverage at work....but my buddy has perfect verizon. I can roam with really ****ty reception. Is there anything I can do to "force roam" at 3g speeds?
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I wouldn't exactly know how to this but I just wanted to let you know be careful with roaming on verizons network. Obviously in sprints eyes that's grounds for dismissal without an eta. It's only so much roaming you can do before you get the boot so be careful.
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
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Your not roaming at true 3g btw. Roaming sticks it in 1xrtt. I tried changing my epst settings to HDR and CDMA HDR only, which it stills says 1xrtt 99.99% of the time
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Look up change prl in of EVO board ..... It will give u instructions to install a Verizon or any other prl and will let u roam on 3g ...
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southern87 said:
Your not roaming at true 3g btw. Roaming sticks it in 1xrtt. I tried changing my epst settings to HDR and CDMA HDR only, which it stills says 1xrtt 99.99% of the time
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Not always true. If you live in a former Alltel area, you can roam on Verizon 3G. I get about 700 kbps-1.2 mbps when roaming on Verizon where I live.
This is because Verizon is required to uphold the Sprint/Alltel roaming agreement terms until the agreement ends, and part of the agreement is EVDO roaming in Alltel coverage areas.
I also think that when roaming on US Cellular its EVDO but I'm not sure and I don't know from experience as Verizon (formerly Alltel) is Sprint primary roaming partner where I live.
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Look up change prl in of EVO board ..... It will give u instructions to install a Verizon or any other prl and will let u roam on 3g ...
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That's what I did. Prl 00001. Though its not as fast as sprints 3g for me where I'm at. It does work though.
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Your using Verizon for voice too but if you do it too long they will kick you to the curb ..... After a couple months you may get a letter that they are dropping u as a customer .... Hint if you want to get out with no etf ...
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Went to Yellowstone this week and couldn't figure out why my rooted 3vo would say 1x while my lady's stock 3vo would say 3g. Seems like this cleared up some confusion. Tnx
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All it says are you are on a custom ROM that is modified to show 1x and all stock roms will just show 3g , but will still be on 1x . I hate the way they do it I like to know what system I am on .
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I use roam control and it barely makes a difference. It roams on US Cellular, I barely have any signal and the data is s-l-o-w.
Roam control does not do the same thing as what he is doing .... When using Verizon prl the network sees your phone as a alltell phone and allows you full access to their network ... Full speed roaming
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I switched back to my 2.3.3 stock back up trying to find a fix for poor data speeds . Did a prl update went from 20281( I think LOL) to 50580. The problem is the sprint zone diagnosis app shows 1xRTT and a new prl update to 60681 but it won't let me update to it. Here's screenies
I will upload the other in a sec... It won't let me upload the other screen shot
WARNING - WARNING -WARNING .. UPDATING TO THE LATEST PRL HAS LEFT ME AND OTHERS WITHOUT 3G STUCK WITH ONLY 1X DATA SPEEDS . SO UPDATE AT YOUR OWN RISK AND DONT BLAME ME, BLAME SPRINT OR VERIZION OR THE NEW HBOOT I DONT CARE JUST DONT BLAME ME!!!
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After seeing this post, I.updated my prl, and it too gave me the 50580....i.was on 21081 before updating...
can someone post that .prl?
I updated mine and it stayed the same at 21081.
So how is your data now? How many bars before and now with prl.
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So how is your data now? How many bars before and now with prl.
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Seems like mine got a little worse actually, but I'm not at my desk, so it could just be that I'm at a different location in my plant...il do I speed test when I get back to my desk
I know mine seems worse, I am in a area I know I get 3g. Since I did the prl update I am now on 1x in this area wtf??
I am not a data whore either, lol.
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I tested using the speedtest app, which I just used the other day from the same location...after running multiple tests, it seems my 3g speeds actually dropped 100kb and I'm constantly showing 1x (was 3g before updating prl, and yes my theme shows 3g/1x properly)
They were 160kbs before the prl update, now, averaging 60-70...thanks for the notice of prl update op.... LOL
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I know mine seems worse, I am in a area I know I get 3g. Since I did the prl update I am now on 1x in this area wtf??
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I'm seeing the same thing. Haven't seen 3G since the update...Luckily I have 4G and/or WiFi everywhere I go so it won't be a big deal until the next update.
cordell12 said:
I know mine seems worse, I am in a area I know I get 3g. Since I did the prl update I am now on 1x in this area wtf??
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Same here, just updated (50580) and now stuck on 1X
Can someone post that new prl so I can update manually?
Is this a attack on root users? I wouldn't put it past them?
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Why don't you guys manually overwrite the prl? If you running a custom ROM you can easily do so. the NOW network is becoming so horrible... It sooner or later will be the SLOW network bahaha.
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Can someone post that new prl so I can update manually?
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Trust me...you don't want this one
@ ycats
Do you not see we are losing 3g with the new prl?
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Why don't you guys manually overwrite the prl? If you running a custom ROM you can easily do so. the NOW network is becoming so horrible... It sooner or later will be the SLOW network bahaha.
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Can you get me the 21081 prl file?
I'm starting to think sprint is trying to make things worse, not better. The last two times I've taken a prl update it significantly showed my speed.
I've never had very fast speeds w sprint but the speeds have fine b from a crawl earlier this year of around 60 kb to around 600 kb or so. when I had pro 20800 I remember things were pretty decent. Then I took the 20801 update v and it slowed way down for Weeks. Now speeds on 20801 have been pretty decent and I see this thread of an update. So, I figure "I doubt it will slow me down again, right"....WRONG!
I ran two speedtests within a half hour of the update, so I have a baseline. One test was taken just before the update to try to keep the test consistent. I updated the prl and ran two new speedtests. The new speed is 1/10 the old speed. All other factors should be same. Sitting in same location on all tests. All performed within relatively short timespan. Only difference is prl version. See my screenshot..
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Have to keep an eye on this thread. I'm getting a horrible signal lately but at least I'm getting 3g and not 1x (I have a truth telling rom also lol). Not to mention I'm at my Doctors office in Albany NY (the capital of NY) and have one bar.
I know everyone's on the edge of their seat worrying about me but its just a yearly physical. ***cough***
BABABOOEY!
i got the same update 50580 now i live out in the country and used to get almost no signal at my house now after the prl update im getting a constant 2 signal bars..data speeds on the other hand..it still moves like pond water
I just rolled back to PRL 21081, then updated profile and I got my 3G back.
I attached the PRL if anyone needs it.
I just downloaded the latest PRL and i am unsure how to install it. I am running Joker's cm9 beta. Anyone know how to install? Or if anyone happened to have a flashable zip that would be nice too
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Flash a blur rom, update prl, flash cm9. Its there only way I know.
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Will the prl stick if i nandroid back to cm9? Or am i going to have to do a clean install?
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i am curious on this as well. also what prl did you find? was it business or consumer?
It is version 51084 and i assume it is consumer. I dont know if it is the latest but i have not updated mine since i installed CM7 back in November so anything helps.
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Would prl 11115 work on our phone? Both the HTC evo and Samsung e4gt use prl 11115 as their business/corporate code. Those being 2 completely different brands of phone make the photon any different? Photon prls would be slightly different because we got to have one that supports cdma and gsm towers, it being a world phone. But if we negated the GSM portion by forcing the 11115 code which is strictly cdma would that have any long term effects for wanting to switch back to the prl code to support GSM roaming towers as well. All these codes are a way for our phones to communicate with specific cell towers. In theory wouldn't 11115 work? I don't need to roam on GSM anyone in America wouldn't because it's still locked here.
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Like dial *#*#4636*#*# change to "cdma only" not "cdma auto prl" then reboot and change the prl to 11115.
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Oh and use roam control from the market to force roam
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I have and am running 01115 for my prl and have seen no downside, just amazing 3g roam speeds. And yeah this is also a prl from evo. I flashed it with QPST and it will stick throughout rom flashes, if I want to go back I flash to stock ROM and update prl and am back to latest ota prl
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What's the difference in 01115 and 11115? And besides 3G speeds. How is the signal. Do these codes improve signal quality?
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What's the difference in 01115 and 11115? And besides 3G speeds. How is the signal. Do these codes improve signal quality?
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In *theory* the only difference in the PRLs would be what towers it will see and connect to considering its just a list of which towers the phone connects to, both Sprint and Verizon. And I can't say for sure which is newer.. i *THINK* 11115 is, but can't say for sure. Ive got 01115 and its great for me and 3g roaming
I dont need roam control. CM9 has forced roaming built in. Could someone tell me the benefits of corporate vs consumer?
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PRL's are a list of "partnered" towers your phone can connect to within the network. The "authorized" towers list changes from time to time thus the PRL updates. Business PRL's (11115 and the like) are a subset of PRL's that regulate certain connectivity features (like data roaming) and voice service (generally better coverage).
Granted roaming is covered by Sprint service but there is some "fine print" attached to that. For example, you flash the lastest, greatest connects to the universe hacked PRL. You have voice and data everywhere you go and are so very happy til you get a notice that your roaming more than 50% of the time. It is suggested that you consider maybe switching carriers or an excessive roaming fee will be charged. But wait, your super PRL allows for voice/data everywhere, how can this be? It's the super PRL you flashed, it doesn't match the real PRL list held by the servers. So even though you could connect to every tower in the 'verse, you were technically roaming more than 50% of the time.
A real world example. Had a customer come in very upset that they were warned about excessive roaming (60% of all use was outside Sprint's network). This was verified by checking what towers the phone was connected to vs the tower database. Upon further query it turned out the customer had flashed an unofficial PRL. This resulted in the phone connecting ANY tower solely based on signal strength. The closest/strongest tower to the customers home was a local carrier that had no partnership with Sprint so the entire time they were home they were roaming. The same applies to flashing a current valid "Business PRL" to a phone that is not authorized for that type of PRL.
In short, feel free to flash whatever PRL you want but be aware that there may be unwanted results.
If interested, I will release a custom ROM just for updates like these. It will have everything stripped out that is not needed to run updates so it will be very small and fast to flash.
I work at Radio Shack so i am very familiar with the fine print. For some reason i am the one stuck dealing with those customers. I have the "not roam control" app installed so i can see what tower i am on at any given time. If i flash a corporate prl does that mean my phone will force itself onto whatever tower is closest whether its sprint, verizon, cspire, etc?
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Can someone upload the 11115 prl and how to flash it.
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Can someone upload the 11115 prl and how to flash it.
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Search for qpst photon on xda and you'll find tutorial on how to flash the prl. As for the prl you can find on Google pretty easy, if not I can upload when get on comp later
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I found prl 11119, is that better then the 11115 or is 11115 newer. I guess I can flash them both and try them to see which is better right
I can always tell when I'm roaming onto Verizon's network because my data speeds slow to a crawl. When using Speed Test I always score below 20KBps when roaming onto Verizon's network. Does anyone else get **** speeds when roaming?
I always get better speeds when roaming.
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It is because of your PRL. You need a business PRL like 11115 to get 3g roaming. There is a thread about how to flash a different PRL. It is a little bit complicated at first, but not really bad IF you follow the directions. Sprint is so bad here, roaming is the only way I get decent speed. BE CAREFUL THOUGH! If you data roam too much, sprint will sh**can you.
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It is because of your PRL. You need a business PRL like 11115 to get 3g roaming. There is a thread about how to flash a different PRL. It is a little bit complicated at first, but not really bad IF you follow the directions. Sprint is so bad here, roaming is the only way I get decent speed. BE CAREFUL THOUGH! If you data roam too much, sprint will sh**can you.
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^ exactly what was stated here, most locations allow only 1x data roaming UNLESS you flash a "business" prl that will allow 3g roaming.
I've found that when I hit roaming the data slows to a crawl, but never thought about the prl issue.
I'd hate to use too much data and have Sprint disconnect me.
Do they give people warnings about it?
For kicks, I used the stock PRL for the EVO LTE (24003) on to my Photon. Wow my data flies with it hovering around 1600kbps - 2300kbps down and 500kbps up. I attached the PRL file below with some screen shots. the first on is my status screen showing the PRL version. The second is my Sprint 3g speed. The last is my roaming. Feel free to try it at your own discretion and I'm not responsible if anything good or bad happens to your device.
Here are instructions to manually update your PRL. You'll need to be on a blur based rom and have your phone's MSL.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1211157
Update. A friend let me update their E4GT with this PRL and their phone could not connect to a Wimax tower. My guess that this PRL is CDMA and LTE only with not Wimax tower info. We were able to fix this by flashing another PRL.
nice,ill try as soon as I can
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I wonder, how in heck does this increase the speed on this phone. I thought we didn't have a LTE chipset in our phone
Doesn't it have 800mhz capability?
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demonotaku said:
I wonder, how in heck does this increase the speed on this phone. I thought we didn't have a LTE chipset in our phone
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Most likely since lte is not on yet lte devices are getying priority.
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just one question.. assuming it won't work how do you go back to the old prl?
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Reload the way you loaded the lte prl
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Reload the way you loaded the lte prl
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one more question..how do I back up the prl or will a manual prl update overwrite it?
A manual update should take it to the current Sprint PRL for your area.
Just flashed it and well my speeds are the same...
at least I tried lol
Update. A friend let me update their E4GT with this PRL and their phone could not connect to a Wimax tower. My guess that this PRL is CDMA and LTE only with not Wimax tower info. We were able to fix this by flashing another PRL.
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I wonder, how in heck does this increase the speed on this phone. I thought we didn't have a LTE chipset in our phone
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You're still on 3G when using this PRL. What is adds it the tower info for the limited test towers for Network Vision and Sprint LTE.
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Doesn't it have 800mhz capability?
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I'm trying to find that out. I can't find a changelog.
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just one question.. assuming it won't work how do you go back to the old prl?
thanks
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If you still have service just do as Kevets suggested. (menu>settings>about phone>system update) If not you'll have to flash a previous PRL version that you know was working or RDS to stock.
Here's a thread where you can download most of the Sprint PRLs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
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Update. A friend let me update their E4GT with this PRL and their phone could not connect to a Wimax tower. My guess that this PRL is CDMA and LTE only with not Wimax tower info. We were able to fix this by flashing another PRL.
You're still on 3G when using this PRL. What is adds it the tower info for the limited test towers for Network Vision and Sprint LTE.
I'm trying to find that out. I can't find a changelog.
If you still have service just do as Kevets suggested. (menu>settings>about phone>system update) If not you'll have to flash a previous PRL version that you know was working or RDS to stock.
Here's a thread where you can download most of the Sprint PRLs.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1267893
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Nothing really special about this PRL. It just has the typical 800mhz scans for Chicago. Nothing else real special.
The wimax chipset does not even use a PRL. This PRL is for EV and 1X only.
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Its called QoS...I was expected something like this...wimax was never the issue ...it was the overall sprint bandwidth ...so now with lte coming how do hide that lte vs wimax was never the issue...it was the network behind it?...you set a network QoS to give most of the bandwidth to the lte devices and shortchange the non lte...even if you not using lte...the network will put the new stars of sprint lineup to the head of the line to make the look faster....wonder why you see all the reports of ever slower g3 on sprint for the other phones?...you just lower in the qos pecking order..you get what left of the bandwidth...you flying standby..the new first class phone fly first class on the backside of the network even if the local phone link to the network is just 3g
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noob question
im on a E4GT and with this PRL could i get LTE? no right because of missing hardware?
thanks
jamcar said:
noob question
im on a E4GT and with this PRL could i get LTE? no right because of missing hardware?
thanks
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This PRL is only used for the CDMA side, not LTE.
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jamcar said:
noob question
im on a E4GT and with this PRL could i get LTE? no right because of missing hardware?
thanks
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No lte is "hardware" (really a layer 1 & 2 radio & data link protocal) it would be like a gsm phone trying to do cdma with a software update...not going to happen if the cdma hardwares not there
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demonotaku said:
I wonder, how in heck does this increase the speed on this phone. I thought we didn't have a LTE chipset in our phone
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Probably a placebo effect.