Is there any way to roam at 3g Speeds on a competitors airwaves? for instance, I have zero coverage at work....but my buddy has perfect verizon. I can roam with really ****ty reception. Is there anything I can do to "force roam" at 3g speeds?
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Is there any way to roam at 3g Speeds on a competitors airwaves? for instance, I have zero coverage at work....but my buddy has perfect verizon. I can roam with really ****ty reception. Is there anything I can do to "force roam" at 3g speeds?
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I wouldn't exactly know how to this but I just wanted to let you know be careful with roaming on verizons network. Obviously in sprints eyes that's grounds for dismissal without an eta. It's only so much roaming you can do before you get the boot so be careful.
My "DU4L C0R3 SH00T3R" shot you down in 3D! -Security Off-
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Your not roaming at true 3g btw. Roaming sticks it in 1xrtt. I tried changing my epst settings to HDR and CDMA HDR only, which it stills says 1xrtt 99.99% of the time
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Look up change prl in of EVO board ..... It will give u instructions to install a Verizon or any other prl and will let u roam on 3g ...
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Your not roaming at true 3g btw. Roaming sticks it in 1xrtt. I tried changing my epst settings to HDR and CDMA HDR only, which it stills says 1xrtt 99.99% of the time
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Not always true. If you live in a former Alltel area, you can roam on Verizon 3G. I get about 700 kbps-1.2 mbps when roaming on Verizon where I live.
This is because Verizon is required to uphold the Sprint/Alltel roaming agreement terms until the agreement ends, and part of the agreement is EVDO roaming in Alltel coverage areas.
I also think that when roaming on US Cellular its EVDO but I'm not sure and I don't know from experience as Verizon (formerly Alltel) is Sprint primary roaming partner where I live.
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Look up change prl in of EVO board ..... It will give u instructions to install a Verizon or any other prl and will let u roam on 3g ...
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That's what I did. Prl 00001. Though its not as fast as sprints 3g for me where I'm at. It does work though.
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Your using Verizon for voice too but if you do it too long they will kick you to the curb ..... After a couple months you may get a letter that they are dropping u as a customer .... Hint if you want to get out with no etf ...
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Went to Yellowstone this week and couldn't figure out why my rooted 3vo would say 1x while my lady's stock 3vo would say 3g. Seems like this cleared up some confusion. Tnx
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All it says are you are on a custom ROM that is modified to show 1x and all stock roms will just show 3g , but will still be on 1x . I hate the way they do it I like to know what system I am on .
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I use roam control and it barely makes a difference. It roams on US Cellular, I barely have any signal and the data is s-l-o-w.
Roam control does not do the same thing as what he is doing .... When using Verizon prl the network sees your phone as a alltell phone and allows you full access to their network ... Full speed roaming
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I just downloaded the latest PRL and i am unsure how to install it. I am running Joker's cm9 beta. Anyone know how to install? Or if anyone happened to have a flashable zip that would be nice too
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Flash a blur rom, update prl, flash cm9. Its there only way I know.
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Will the prl stick if i nandroid back to cm9? Or am i going to have to do a clean install?
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i am curious on this as well. also what prl did you find? was it business or consumer?
It is version 51084 and i assume it is consumer. I dont know if it is the latest but i have not updated mine since i installed CM7 back in November so anything helps.
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Would prl 11115 work on our phone? Both the HTC evo and Samsung e4gt use prl 11115 as their business/corporate code. Those being 2 completely different brands of phone make the photon any different? Photon prls would be slightly different because we got to have one that supports cdma and gsm towers, it being a world phone. But if we negated the GSM portion by forcing the 11115 code which is strictly cdma would that have any long term effects for wanting to switch back to the prl code to support GSM roaming towers as well. All these codes are a way for our phones to communicate with specific cell towers. In theory wouldn't 11115 work? I don't need to roam on GSM anyone in America wouldn't because it's still locked here.
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Like dial *#*#4636*#*# change to "cdma only" not "cdma auto prl" then reboot and change the prl to 11115.
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Oh and use roam control from the market to force roam
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I have and am running 01115 for my prl and have seen no downside, just amazing 3g roam speeds. And yeah this is also a prl from evo. I flashed it with QPST and it will stick throughout rom flashes, if I want to go back I flash to stock ROM and update prl and am back to latest ota prl
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What's the difference in 01115 and 11115? And besides 3G speeds. How is the signal. Do these codes improve signal quality?
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What's the difference in 01115 and 11115? And besides 3G speeds. How is the signal. Do these codes improve signal quality?
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In *theory* the only difference in the PRLs would be what towers it will see and connect to considering its just a list of which towers the phone connects to, both Sprint and Verizon. And I can't say for sure which is newer.. i *THINK* 11115 is, but can't say for sure. Ive got 01115 and its great for me and 3g roaming
I dont need roam control. CM9 has forced roaming built in. Could someone tell me the benefits of corporate vs consumer?
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PRL's are a list of "partnered" towers your phone can connect to within the network. The "authorized" towers list changes from time to time thus the PRL updates. Business PRL's (11115 and the like) are a subset of PRL's that regulate certain connectivity features (like data roaming) and voice service (generally better coverage).
Granted roaming is covered by Sprint service but there is some "fine print" attached to that. For example, you flash the lastest, greatest connects to the universe hacked PRL. You have voice and data everywhere you go and are so very happy til you get a notice that your roaming more than 50% of the time. It is suggested that you consider maybe switching carriers or an excessive roaming fee will be charged. But wait, your super PRL allows for voice/data everywhere, how can this be? It's the super PRL you flashed, it doesn't match the real PRL list held by the servers. So even though you could connect to every tower in the 'verse, you were technically roaming more than 50% of the time.
A real world example. Had a customer come in very upset that they were warned about excessive roaming (60% of all use was outside Sprint's network). This was verified by checking what towers the phone was connected to vs the tower database. Upon further query it turned out the customer had flashed an unofficial PRL. This resulted in the phone connecting ANY tower solely based on signal strength. The closest/strongest tower to the customers home was a local carrier that had no partnership with Sprint so the entire time they were home they were roaming. The same applies to flashing a current valid "Business PRL" to a phone that is not authorized for that type of PRL.
In short, feel free to flash whatever PRL you want but be aware that there may be unwanted results.
If interested, I will release a custom ROM just for updates like these. It will have everything stripped out that is not needed to run updates so it will be very small and fast to flash.
I work at Radio Shack so i am very familiar with the fine print. For some reason i am the one stuck dealing with those customers. I have the "not roam control" app installed so i can see what tower i am on at any given time. If i flash a corporate prl does that mean my phone will force itself onto whatever tower is closest whether its sprint, verizon, cspire, etc?
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Can someone upload the 11115 prl and how to flash it.
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Can someone upload the 11115 prl and how to flash it.
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Search for qpst photon on xda and you'll find tutorial on how to flash the prl. As for the prl you can find on Google pretty easy, if not I can upload when get on comp later
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I found prl 11119, is that better then the 11115 or is 11115 newer. I guess I can flash them both and try them to see which is better right
I bought there roam control app to use on my electrify(rebadged photon) only the home works. force roam just goes to auto. I guess when I got it, thought it worked cuz the towers were good that night andi stayed roaming on vzw towers. is there an app to force roam on u.s. cellular?..... if someone pulled this off I Witold repay for the app!
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I always thought you could only roam on a carrier that your provider pays for.
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yes, u r correct. I roam off verizon towers most of the time, but sometimes I get a wiff of us cellular tower signal, then I go from full service and 3g at -79db to 1x and no bars at -119db
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There are no apps. The best thing you can probably do is change your PRL.
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my owl is up to date. my home network(us cellular) sucks and roaming is perfect
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my owl is up to date. my home network(us cellular) sucks and roaming is perfect
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it has nothing to do with it being up to date. i'm telling you that you need to change your prl. not update but manually change it to a verizon one or something.
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it has nothing to do with it being up to date. i'm telling you that you need to change your prl. not update but manually change it to a verizon one or something.
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no idea how to do that. tried looking online.... I talked to a guy over the phone that helped me get in and change the prl.... I even wrote it down but that was when I first got this phone...
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Forced roaming on specific carriers sounds like a cool idea.
I want to make my u.s. cellular device stay on verizon towers when I'm home or I have no signal.... 1x and no bars @ -119db then when it finally switches to roaming... on vzw towers 3g, full bars at -79 db
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I want to make my u.s. cellular device stay on verizon towers when I'm home or I have no signal.... 1x and no bars @ -119db then when it finally switches to roaming... on vzw towers 3g, full bars at -79 db
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so does the app roam control work on us cellular??
im thinking about switching but i want to make sure a few things work first..
thanks
I think pictures speak better than words. forced roaming on cricket
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Why the smile? are those good?
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Sad haha, cricket is garbage, doesn't say much about sprint.
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At $55 a month you can't complain Works great for me on 3g and I use WiFi at home.
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Why the smile? are those good?
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Cricket has surprisingly good 3g speed, especially in comparison to Sprint's 56k dial-up modem speeds. Considering I get full Sprint coverage, the smiley is for the fact I can FORCE ROAMING to get the speeds I deserve to be getting with Sprint.
People really need to read the manual prl thread
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Cricket has surprisingly good 3g speed, especially in comparison to Sprint's 56k dial-up modem speeds. Considering I get full Sprint coverage, the smiley is for the fact I can FORCE ROAMING to get the speeds I deserve to be getting with Sprint.
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Then that is a win for you, salut!
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I know on Sprint you have about a 200mb data limit roaming which would make me not want to force it. Is that the same for cricket? I'd hate to be thinking about that all the time.
How do you know you are on cricket roaming and not verizon or another cdma carrier? Also what is the app you are using in your screen shots that shows the connection speeds, etc?
Wow your cricket speeds area really bad. Here is mine with the latest cricket prl and 2 bars and not roaming
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I'm in an area with decent Verizon coverage and I force roaming and all I get is 0-1 bars of 1X. Is there a trick to getting 3G while roaming?
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1. Don't do it.
2. No really, don't do it.
Sprint will give you a nice fat boot for Christmas if you try to force roaming.
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You would need to flash a Verizon prl and like its been mentioned, not a good idea. Sprint throttles first, send a polite warning and then terminate if you continue to roam.
I was more talking a setting I'm in PA hunting and I know Verizon gets good service here. If we're supposed to be roaming on Verizon, why do I get nothing?
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I was more talking a setting I'm in PA hunting and I know Verizon gets good service here. If we're supposed to be roaming on Verizon, why do I get nothing?
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You would need to flash a Verizon prl and like its been mentioned, not a good idea. Sprint throttles first, send a polite warning and then terminate if you continue to roam.
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Like he said, you'll need to manually install a Verizon prl to do it But in all seriousness, I wouldn't try it... Once upon a time I tried a mod to force Verizon roaming on my old HTC Hero and promptly got a letter from Sprint less than a week later. It's just not a smart thing to do.
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I've used CDMA Workshop to update my PRL using all the different PRLs posted on this site, from 00001 - 56xxx. I seemed to get the best results with 11119 last billing cycle. I roamed over 31GB but no letter from Sprint. So I was going to continue to take advantage of the speeds until they warn me.
However, when I tried yesterday, I get very slow speeds with all the PRLs and my Sprint data usage page always shows Sprint 3g & Sprint 4g numbers increasing, but not Sprint 3g roaming usage. What's weird is the phone NEVER connects to LTE service so how is my 4g usage amount increasing? I know some of the PRLs listed would not show the roaming indicator although I was indeed roaming. But the Sprint usage page only shows Sprint usage increasing.
Anyways, when I flash 11119 or any other PRL from the XDA site, do I also need to set the Roam Only option in Settings -> Mobile Data -> Roaming (MeanBean ROM & I'm not opposed to switching ROMs if that's the issue)? My current Sprint PRL via Update PRL is 24012. Should I just keep the Sprint PRL and set the Roam Only option for Mobile Data? I tried it briefly and it switches my connection to 1x. Will 1x still count as 3G roaming? It's slow as heck so I can't imagine 1x data usage pushing my usage numbers up very high.
Only my 2nd post so forgive me if I posted in the wrong area, asked stupid questions, etc. Blast me and I'll get it all right the next time ... I promise!!
Need to flash an alternate prl and go to roam only mode. Orelse you'll still be on sprint towers.
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Need to flash an alternate prl and go to roam only mode. Orelse you'll still be on sprint towers.
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This has worked beautifully!! Over 100GB so far and the 3g speed is bearable. Still no letters from Sprint so maybe my account gets a pass.
Thanks for the reply!
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This has worked beautifully!! Over 100GB so far and the 3g speed is bearable. Still no letters from Sprint so maybe my account gets a pass.
Thanks for the reply!
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How about you just pay the ETF and go to a carrier that better suits your needs?
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How about you just pay the ETF and go to a carrier that better suits your needs?
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Mayb cause sprint is cheaper? Cept tmo i suppose
Technically Sprint CAN charge .25$ per megabyte over 300mb usage of off-network roaming, by the way That would be quite the bill you'd have there. Sprint is tricky and unpredictable in most cases. I'd be careful. Just my .25$. Lol.
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Technically Sprint CAN charge .25$ per megabyte over 300mb usage of off-network roaming, by the way That would be quite the bill you'd have there. Sprint is tricky and unpredictable in most cases. I'd be careful. Just my .25$. Lol.
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I wish they would do this to these people racking up huge roaming bills. They are just ruining the roaming for others.
signal can't be that bad if your hitting 100gb.. it take me 3+ months to hit that with the signal I get.
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signal can't be that bad if your hitting 100gb.. it take me 3+ months to hit that with the signal I get.
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He's using Verizon signal (3g), sometimes I get up to 1.5 with their signal too
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Be careful bro! Just figured you're bill of roaming. It totals to $25,600!!!
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bennyboy78 said:
Be careful bro! Just figured you're bill of roaming. It totals to $25,600!!!
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Exactly. It's a risky business. Cheaper to ETF and switch carriers for sure.
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He's using Verizon signal (3g), sometimes I get up to 1.5 with their signal too
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oh I understand that but 1.5gb isn't that much in the grand scheme, I would think most people here can hit that with or without a vzn prl, but its a far cry from 100gb
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Be careful bro! Just figured you're bill of roaming. It totals to $25,600!!!
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There may be a provision that Sprint *can* charge you extra for roaming, but I've never heard of it actually happening to anyone in practice. It seems to be standard procedure that they just drop you after a certain amount of time of excessive roaming, and they give you advance notice that you're being dropped. I've actually seen a copy of the letter they send. In my personal experience, I've never been charged extra for roaming despite routinely going over their 300mb cap.
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