hi guys..
would like to know if anyone is using the EzPDF reader on the flyer..
wanna check whether the magazine pdf file will fill up the whole screen on the flyer in portrait mode.. and if the text are readable (without having to strain the eyes) without having to zoom in..
I am able the read magazine pdf files on my Asus transformer..
on the verge of letting it go as the Flyer is more portable..
I have it. I'm not sure if it makes the text more readable. Readability wise it's like the pdf reader that comes with the flyer.
does the pdf viewer on the flyer make the text readable?..
just do not wish to strain my eyes..
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does the pdf viewer on the flyer make the text readable?
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What do you mean? The quality of the screen? The viewers possibilities self or what?
All other stuff depends on the pdt self (text, document sizes, marges, etc.)
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What do you mean? The quality of the screen? The viewers possibilities self or what?
All other stuff depends on the pdt self (text, document sizes, marges, etc.)
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not quality of the screen but the text itself..
curious if the text is "big" enough to read comfortably when in full screen portrait mode..
do not wish to squint my eyes when i read the magazine in portrait mode..
Personally I prefer magazines on my iPad for the screen-size. I just downloaded a magazine onto my Flyr as a test. I used the default PDF app, with pen integration, and you can zoom in enough to read each column of text while in portrait mode. My magazine page had 4 columns per page probably a 10pt font.
I didn't check if the PDF viewer supports side by side (2 page) viewing and whether you could zoom in far enough to read text.
The Flyr seems fine for magazine viewing in portrait mode.
It appears that your question is a hardware question and not a software question.
The transformer has 67% greater resolution than the flyer. In other words, both full screen, it contains up to 67% more detail. Physically the screen is about twice as large.
Thus, a rough estimate is if you take the text size on the transformer and cut it in half (50% ~ 67% zoom level) do you think you can read comfortably? If not, probably not.
If none of this makes sense, the short answer is, no, it is not going to be as comfortable as the transformer. Your arm will be more comfortable though
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It appears that your question is a hardware question and not a software question.
The transformer has 67% greater resolution than the flyer. In other words, both full screen, it contains up to 67% more detail. Physically the screen is about twice as large.
Thus, a rough estimate is if you take the text size on the transformer and cut it in half (50% ~ 67% zoom level) do you think you can read comfortably? If not, probably not.
If none of this makes sense, the short answer is, no, it is not going to be as comfortable as the transformer. Your arm will be more comfortable though
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i agree with u..
this is more a hardware Qn..
my mistake..
i did what you mentioned actually..
i simulated the size of a 7" screen on my transformer using pinch to zoom..
cant read comfortably though.. haha..
however i have since sold my transformer and deciding between Flyer or Tab10.1..
transformer has a nice screen but the weight is killing me..
Flyer isn't exactly light either, but that's the tradeoff for a more durable aluminium case. My iPad isn't light either. But I definitely appreciate the durability of a metal case.
i use EzPDF, its not great on the eyes for reading text but you can zoom a little if need be. i would say with no doubt a bigger screen would be better
It was heart wrenching to sell my transformer as it is a very good honeycomb device but the creaking back and light bleeding was too much for me to take..
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Acers Iconia looks promising for a 10" Android Tablet. It's unfortunate of the price point of these devices... I guess we have Apple for setting the bar so high.
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It seems just about every review says the panel's viewing angles are terrible. But i that the only real issue with the G tablet? And is the problem even that bad?
I think it is an advantage. ...keeps nosey folks from looking in
No there really not that bad. The only time it become an issue is when held in portrait and web surfing. It creates a kind of shiny, effect. But its not all that bad. All the criticism probably stems from people have become accustomed to retina and super amoled screens plus ye olde snowball affect, As soon as someone mentions it everyone notices in and magnifies its perceived effect.
I've read many many reviews before I decided to order my gtab. I actually came across one review that criticized the gtab because it's made of black plastic. It really seems to me that people just want to criticize for the sake of criticizing. My problem with them doing this is that they clutter up all the space making it more difficult for people like me to discern the real criticisms from the fake ones.
In landscape, looking down on it (ie. when it's resting flat on a table) is bad - solarization effect. And in portrait it's very noticeable when you tilt it slightly. I personally dislike it as I had used it primarily in portrait mode.
So it's very noticeable in landscape? Too bad, I'd prefer using it in landscape for the wider view. Are there any plans to update the newer models?
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It seems just about every review says the panel's viewing angles are terrible. But i that the only real issue with the G tablet? And is the problem even that bad?
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I only run high end displays on my desktop machines (Both home and work). All IPS and PVA displays (this is high end, if you're not familiar with the tech).
The GTab's display isn't that great, it's useless when laying flat on the desk (buy some sort of stand if you plan on using it at a desk). HOWEVER, using it as an ebook reader, or watching a movie, or surfing the web, all from the couch or bed? Perfectly fine.
TL;DR: It isn't great, but it's not even remotely as bad as everyone says. If you want better, buy a Xoom (for more than double the price).
Ipad definitely has a superior display. I would enjoy the tablet experience more with that. Also much heavier to hold for a period.
Watching straight on as you normally anyways, it works quite well. A weird effect or distortion does occur in portrait. It's as if pixels weren't perfectly square of something and display different this way.
Speed is great, surfing with dolphin is quite nice, and widgets and multi tasking way better than Ipad.
As long as you're looking at it straight on and not moving it around too much it's fine. The only time the viewing angles annoyed me was when I play a game that uses the accelerometer because sometime its hard to see some things while moving it around at different angles.
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I think it is an advantage. ...keeps nosey folks from looking in
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+1 what he said. Im using mine all day in public and with this screen don't even worry about someone getting a password or account number.
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It seems just about every review says the panel's viewing angles are terrible. But i that the only real issue with the G tablet? And is the problem even that bad?
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The Gtablet is great with the new ROMs. I use 3318 with 3.14 enhancement with no problems and does everything I want. Have Flash 10.2 fix for Hulu.
Viewing angle can be bad and is fixed immediately by handware. A simple tile here and there and it's fine. After awhile it becomes a conditioned reflex. For me, the viewing angles improved when I started using it in a case. I use the SOLO case modified with a 1/8" flat cardboard IPad sized template. The template is velcroed to the case and the tablet is velcroed to the template.
Having the tablet in a case while on your lap keeps the viewing angles almost perfect in landscape mode and allows both your hands free for speed typing on the keyboard. In portrait mode, the case is held like a book and viewing angle is also excellent and angled correctly.
In short, the viewing angle is totally controllable and can be corrected by either handware and/or caseware.
My question. Are most users, using the Gtablet with or without a case? And how often is the viewing angle an issue to you?
My experience, the viewing angle is a now a non-issue and I use the Gtablet at least 4-6 hours a day and have done so happily for the last 3 months.
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I only run high end displays on my desktop machines (Both home and work). All IPS and PVA displays (this is high end, if you're not familiar with the tech).
The GTab's display isn't that great, it's useless when laying flat on the desk (buy some sort of stand if you plan on using it at a desk). HOWEVER, using it as an ebook reader, or watching a movie, or surfing the web, all from the couch or bed? Perfectly fine.
TL;DR: It isn't great, but it's not even remotely as bad as everyone says. If you want better, buy a Xoom (for more than double the price).
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+1 what he said
When needed, the tab can be rotated to accommodate different angles (camera on bottom). I only do thisif I lay it flat. Which is rare.
>>>In short, the viewing angle is totally controllable and can be corrected by either handware and/or caseware.
uh huh - and sneakernet is a very efficient way to move files from one computer to another
Vertical viewing angle is bad from bottom
Side viewing angle is acceptable, but the vertical viewing angle is pretty bad from the bottom.
To use it laying down on the table, I have to turn it upside down first because its viewing angle from the top is not bad.
agreed - horiz is fine (in landscape mode). vert is pretty bad - and I'm using VEGAn 5.11 (the home screen does not rotate) so turning it upsdie down is not an option.
Been reading lite reviews. Found this.
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_GTABLET/#productTabReviews
[3 of 7 customers found this review helpful]
Poorly Designed Tablet
By MacGyver from Hershey, PA on 1/22/2011
Pros:
Adequate Storage
Cons:
Poor Battery Life, Poor Construction, Slow, Unreliable Performance
Describe Yourself:
Multimedia Professional, Tech Savvy
Primary use:
Business
Bottom Line:
No, I would not recommend this to a friend
We are in the process of developing web applications for various mobile devices and picked up this tablet to test our services on an Android platform. The user interface is well-designed but sluggish; a commentary on the hardware. Hardware buttons are slow to respond and battery life was terrible. This product is clearly a "me too" product for Viewsonic and represents no innovation.
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Poor battery life? Given that I don't have this tab yet. Still waiting for mine. But everyone else on the internets have said the battery life is up there with the ipad. Any idea why this person would say this?
Yeah that's strange. I can get three days of light use out of my G tab no problem.
Same here. Battery life on this device is awesome.
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Been reading lite reviews. Found this.
http://www.jr.com/viewsonic/pe/VIW_GTABLET/#productTabReviews
Poor battery life? Given that I don't have this tab yet. Still waiting for mine. But everyone else on the internets have said the battery life is up there with the ipad. Any idea why this person would say this?
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because the moron was probably using the stock image which sucks. im sure that its power management is less to be desirable.
They probably used the shipped rom for their testing, which may have poor battery life (I wouldn't know, flashed a custom rom within an hour of opening mine). I use Vegan, and battery life is great. I watched about 4.5 hours of movies on mine yesterday with wi-fi on and still had plenty of juice left
When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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Yea. I have noticed this problem as well. It seems like the inking is only meant for highlighting or something. Even the choice of pens is limited in the application.
Yes, only one pen and even the smallest size is pretty big in PDF Viewer. Note that in Polaris office there is only one pen too but the small size is a nice small size and works well---problem there is portability. Ink does not show up in Word once inked on and sent to one's computer.
Here is what happens on mine in terms of erasing:
1. can erase if I have not yet saved
2. can erase if I save without flattening
3. cannot erase if I save flattened.
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Here is what happens on mine in terms of erasing:
1. can erase if I have not yet saved
2. can erase if I save without flattening
3. cannot erase if I save flattened.
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I am able to erase ink under the conditions you listed, but I can't seem to erase highlighting unless I exit without saving. Same for you, I suspect?
I bought the Flyer to read and annotate my PDFs at university.
But with that thick strokes it's pretty unusable at the moment.
I would like to have the annotation feature (annotations at the right side) from the ebook-app in the pdf-viewer and a much thinner pen.
Do you think HTC is going to give us an update soon?
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When I use the pen to annotate pdfs on the Flyer, the width of the ink is WAY too large, even when I use the pen menu to turn it to the smallest setting.
The ink width is so wide that it's unusable for me. I was really hoping to read/annotate on the Flyer for work, but this seemingly small issue makes it impossible.
When I zoom in on a PDF, the ink width scales up proportionally. Ink shouldn't do this! I want to zoom in so i can write a small footnote in the margin, but the ink just gets bigger the more I zoom in.
Anyone else notice this? Anyone using the pen to annotate PDFs, and if so, how is it working for you?
One more thing: I can't erase or undo my highlights in the PDF viewer.
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I haven't had the problem when I zoom in. I am able to zoom in and write between the lines of text really well and when I zoom out I can still read it.
I haven't found a solution for deleting highlighting unless you exit without saving...
You can erase the highlight by clicking on it with your finger.
In the "Pop-Up" there are buttons to select the highlight-color and one button to delete the highlight (in my German Version it's called "Markierung entfernen" which means something like "delete mark").
Unfortunately i haven't found a way to delete all the highlight at once yet.
Not got one yet but have read (and seen on YouTube) that if you press harder the line is thicker and the lighter you press the thinner the line - Maybe that works in pdf viewer too???
Good luck
I tried it at bestbuy today. The freehand inking pen does not seem pressure sensitive. You can pick different thicknesses for the pen, and it stays at that thickness. The thinnest line is actually rather thick, like 10-ish pixels at the highest zoom level.
In the brush popup menu, there is one of the menus that allows you to undo/redo strokes.
BTW, can somebody upload an annotated pdf? I would like to open it in a few desktop pdf viewers.
thanks for all the comments thus far.
there is no pressure sensitivity for the pen in the pdf app for me, and the line is jittery, like the tablet is sampling the pen location too infrequently.
my view is that the pdf software was rushed for release and is in such an unfinished state that it is unusable. For me this negates the entire purpose of owning the Flyer.
HTC had better release a working version of their promised pdf annotator or they are going to lose customers and gain bad rep. on the other hand if they respond with updates in a timely manner.. they'll gain the kind of good publicity you can't buy.
as it stands, i will be telling my colleagues to stay away from HTC.
to those looking for good pdf annotation for android, try an app called ezPDF.
anyone have any other useful apps to recommend?
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thanks for all the comments thus far.
there is no pressure sensitivity for the pen in the pdf app for me, and the line is jittery, like the tablet is sampling the pen location too infrequently.
my view is that the pdf software was rushed for release and is in such an unfinished state that it is unusable. For me this negates the entire purpose of owning the Flyer.
HTC had better release a working version of their promised pdf annotator or they are going to lose customers and gain bad rep. on the other hand if they respond with updates in a timely manner.. they'll gain the kind of good publicity you can't buy.
as it stands, i will be telling my colleagues to stay away from HTC.
to those looking for good pdf annotation for android, try an app called ezPDF.
anyone have any other useful apps to recommend?
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Did you report this to HTC? You're more likely to get a fix if you report it (and even more likely if lots of people report it).
I created two pdf-files with the same content. The difference is that one is saved "flattened" and the other one is save with "two layers". (HTC offers these two methods to save the pdf).
I was extremely surprised when i just tried to open the two files with PDF-XChange Viewer. There are NO ANNOTATIONS to see.
@solsearch: Yes, i wrote to the German HTC-Support yesterday.
At the moment the Flyer is nothing more than any other (cheaper) tablet.
The pen is nice but much more a gimmick than a useful feature for my purposes.
@Gathering: thanks for the upload! I opened both of them on Evince (linux) and Foxit Reader (windows) and both picked up the annotations. I was also able to manipulate the highlights in Foxit. The different highlighting colors looks good! I wasn't able to change color at BB yesterday.
The flattened and non-flattened appear the same in Foxit though. I can manipulate each individual annotation... don't know what the separate layer did.
I'm very interested in using the Flyer to replace my current ebook reader. I can compromise on the thickness issue as long as it's good enough in terms of general writing precision.
I was a bit disappointed that I couldn't add text notes to the pdf, but the software is actually made by Foxit, so I don't know how well updates will be for the pdf reader.
EDIT: has anybody tried out ezPDF reader? The video reviews look fantastic. Unfortunately it won't take advantage of HTC Scribe, but I'm definitely considering using it to complement the regular pdf viewer if I get the Flyer.
I do a lot of work through PDFs also, and I have no issues with how the pen interacts in PDF Viewer. The line with is a little thick, but it worked well for what I need it to do. Usually the notes are for me and I like the "pen and paper feel".
It would be nice to be able to type comments... I think that's what people miss. Because I tusually don't "write" notes into PDFs on my computer... No digitizer.
They are also readable in the default Adobe reader on Windows (it gives a small error message but everything showed up from what I could see), this means that anyone should be able to view the notes (since I assume the default Adobe readers on other OSs will also work).
Thickness depends on Portrait/Landscape
I too am frustrated by the pen thickness issue in the PDF viewer. Annotating PDFs was the main reason for buying the HTC Flyer. One thing to note though, the thickness you get also depends on whether you are in portrait or landscape. I get a thinner pen in Portrait than Landscape. I get slightly better annotations, therefore, when I use it in Portrait mode.
Same here, the ink gets too thick in the pdf documents
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I too am frustrated by the pen thickness issue in the PDF viewer. Annotating PDFs was the main reason for buying the HTC Flyer. One thing to note though, the thickness you get also depends on whether you are in portrait or landscape. I get a thinner pen in Portrait than Landscape. I get slightly better annotations, therefore, when I use it in Portrait mode.
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I encourage everyone to report this issue to HTC, and possibly reference this thread when you do.
As for me (the OP), I am not waiting around an indefinite amount of time for HTC to fix their broken Flyer PDF annotation software. After all, they have not even acknowledged it's broken or that a fix is coming.
I can't even "fix" the problem myself by writing a better annotator app because HTC hasn't released the Flyer ink SDK.
So I returned my Flyer to bestbuy, and exchanged it for a Motorola Xoom. You can annotated PDFs on the xoom much more easily than on the Flyer- just get a piece of software called ezPDF, or try Repligo PDF. Annotation on the xoom using these programs is much nicer than the Flyer's annotator, even though the Xoom does not have native pen support.
Xoom is roughly the same price as a Flyer +pen, but the Xoom is MUCH faster, has a much better screen, and runs honeycomb 3.1 right now.
If you are using a Flyer and you have never tried a Xoom, you don't know what you're missing.
I still love the concept of the Flyer, but unfortunately the implementation is half-assed.
I guess it depends on the way you are using it. While trying to annotate pages was useless I just zoomed in and everything was fine...
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Hi, I am looking to purchase an accessory to accommodate me in college. Im looking to stray away from the traditional pen and paper note taking that I am so sick and tired of. Most of my lectures are via powerpoint and I have access to the files. I am looking for something that would be quick, reliable, have good battery, and easy to take notes on. I'll be taking 20+ pages of notes per lecture, so, comfort is a big factor as well. I would also, as a luxury, like to record the lectures.
My reasons for a Flyer:
Flyer Pen is the most native thing to pencil and paper
Voice recording sync with notes
Ability to upload to dropbox, etc
Size
No "clickity" keyboard
Questions for Flyer:
How easy is it to write legibly, small, and quickly with the pen?
How does note taking over top of slides work?
How is the battery life on widow constant use of note taking and recording?
I've heard reports of the device failing after 10+ pages of notes... explain?
Reasons for Chromebook:
Good battery
Quick boot
Cloud abilities
Keyboard is efficient and easy
Other:
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
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That is a good question. I have not used the flyer for more then a few pages of notes. But a screen protector is a must for taking notes, it adds friction and makes for a better experience.
As for battery life on the Flyer I can go about 2 full days on a charge...but I do have the WiFi only version.
I have not tried any Chrome books but for what you want to do I think a Flyer might be better suited for your needs.
Check out "livescribe". Ive been using it for over a year now and still think it's awesome. Especially now that it syncs with Evernote.
Combine it with a Flyer and all the college chicks will fall for you
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Being a college student myself, I use Blackboard to download my lecture slides. But different professors upload their slides in different formats so this is just my experience dealing with slide formats. Aside from the Notepad app, the Flyer comes with a few apps that support the pen, but otherwise taping on the screen takes a screen capture of the current screen and lets you draw over it.
The default PDF app lets you scribble all over the PDF files nicely, but you can only write on the area of the page. The extra space on the edges of the screen will not take pen input. Having the pen on the thinnest ink, you can zoom in and fill in smaller boxes if necessary. Overall, writing on PDF files work well if your professors put up slides in the PDF format.
With the default Polaris Office, word documents (.doc, .docx) also takes pen input directly on top of the file. But .ppt files do not, and I have no idea why. Trying to write on a .ppt file will take a screenshot of the page and let you write on it, but its not saved on top of the .ppt file so you can't scroll through the slides with your ink on it. You can however append notated slides into the notepad app, but that means you can only add one page at a time and it becomes a bit of a hassle, especially if you deal with all .ppt stuff.
Writing on excel files also just lets you write on a screen capture.
I don't know if HTC will update or release more apps to use the pen, but that is all the pen can do at the moment. I believe they will release the pen's API in the future.
BTW, is is just me or you really can't write on top of .ppt slides without taking a screenshot? Seems a bit...feature-lacking to support .doc but not .ppt.
10+ pages seems to be a problem for the flyer. My meetings run about 90 min and go through about 3-4 pages of notes. I typically record audio from the meeting, hence fewer notes. I haven't experienced many problems... The autosave is annoying, but you learn to be patient.
People have reported problems with notes not saving, but I haven't run into that either. I usually exit with the back key, and multitask with the home key. No issues.
There is sound when the pen hits the screen. Similar to a chalkboard type effect, and it is picked up by the audio recording. Maybe a scrap piece of invisible shield on the pen tip would help. I print in block letters like architects... Maybe cursive would be a quieter fit.
You can get pretty detailed with letters... The letter size has increased due to loss of accuracy writing on glass. I find that writing in landscape mode makes the overall letter size smaller when reviewing notes... And also helps if you have a note-taking system which involves multiple columns for highlighting.
Play with the pen nibs also. They vary in the amount of smoothing in the pen line. Markers and the pencil definitely look more like normal writing, while the pen nib is a little more jagged.
If your notes are largely text based, stick with a slim netbook (learn to type faster ). If you need to draw diagrams, use a tablet... It's cool to take pictures of the lecturers drawing and include them in your notes.
Good luck with your decision. Get what works for you.
I am debating between the G tablet and Nook Color since price is similar. I went to Office Depot and looked at the G tablet, though the ceiling lights in there give some glare, it was hard to make an overall judgement on the screen in there. I don't think I found it that bad. I can see the horsepower this has over the Nook color might be something I will like, I like tinkering with stuff (my pc overclock, my old windows mobile 6.5 wing overclocked etc) so modding I am not scared of.
I read about people disliking the screen.. Is it really that bad? From you owners, does it bother sometimes or is it really no big deal?
I am thinking I will use it on plane flights and in hotels, as well as leisure etc.. i do want to play games though and general multimedia.
Also are there some screen protectors and cases that fit it?
Replies much appreciated. Thanks!
Yes, the viewing angles are a pain to deal with. Depending on how you plan on looking at it will determine how you hold it (landscape) either camera up or camera down. The stock rom won't let the screen rotate so you will have to find one that does. I'm typing on it now, btw.
Back to the screen; the colors get washed out easily and gets frustrating. Also, the touchscreen sensitivity is ****ty. Gtablet for dummies has 2 fixes for this, though, so that's a start.
I just really hope Google releases source on honeycomb and viewsonic releases the drivers to take advantage of the tegra2
Thanks for the quick response, how about with a screen protector? I read that it helps.
I ordered a screen protector off from ebay. I haven't had any trouble with it. However I don't believe it has improved the screen at all.
An interesting note the package on the protector said it was for the Acer Iconia, but it still fits (quite tightly) with a cutout for the camera. I'm not sure if the dimensions are exactly the same... Perhaps someone can confirm this?
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hypertek said:
I read about people disliking the screen.. Is it really that bad? From you owners, does it bother sometimes or is it really no big deal?
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Yes, it's really that bad. It's a netbook screen, which means its meant to be viewed dead on center left/right, in landscape, at (and this is the real killer) about a 30 degree angle.
In dark settings its fine, but you have to hold it (no reading flat on a table, unless you like leaning over the table) and no portrait reading, so using it as an ebook is, er, less than satisfying.
I suggest you NEVER look at a real tablet screen that was actually designed for easy viewing from many different angles.
Other than that, it's fantastic.
My gTab's viewing angles are just as bad as everyone else's and I rarely care. Also, when the kids and I are watching YouTube or other videos, the tablet is in landscape and three of us can watch side by side with only minor impact due to the viewing angles.
I would rather have an IPS screen but for me price is a big factor; then again, I just bought a used table saw at GoodWill for $37, so that's the kind of shopper I am. If you don't mind the viewing angles go for it, but better tablets are always coming out so today's IPS tablets may be marked down very soon.
have any of you tried this screen protector? in the reviews, people where saying it helped alot. http://www.amazon.com/XtremeGUARD©-...5?s=electronics&ie=UTF8&qid=1312573112&sr=1-5
And some said the skinomi helped http://androidforums.com/gtablet-tips-tricks/320532-improved-viewing-angle.html
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Yes, it's really that bad. It's a netbook screen, which means its meant to be viewed dead on center left/right, in landscape, at (and this is the real killer) about a 30 degree angle.
In dark settings its fine, but you have to hold it (no reading flat on a table, unless you like leaning over the table) and no portrait reading, so using it as an ebook is, er, less than satisfying.
I suggest you NEVER look at a real tablet screen that was actually designed for easy viewing from many different angles.
Other than that, it's fantastic.
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Hilarious and pretty damn close to what I think. However, I use mine on a stand at just the right angle and have no issues.
Hypertek
If you do want the thing to be a capable book reader, get the Nook. It is flashable with better ROMs and is designed for ebooks.
I originally thought I would use my Gtablet for them, but learned better about 10 pages into the first one.
My Kindle is perfect for it though as is the Nook.
BTW, I got the Skinomi full skin (woodgrain) and it came with the screen protector. Works great and looks amazing.
I've own/ed both a nook color and a gtab. The nook screen is nicer. Plain and simple. Better viewing angles, the picture seems more vivid, its just all around nice. That being said, I still sold my nook color for a gtab and would make the same decision again in a heartbeat.
The thing is, if you want an ereader, the nook color is the clear winner. But if you want that tablet experience (like I did) and are looking to the nook color for it, its going to leave you wanting. I rooted my nc, threw CM7 on it, over clocked it, remapped the hardware buttons, everything you can tinker with I did. But as great as it was, its still never really felt like a real tablet. I enjoyed the portability, but the 7inch screen felt a bit cramped.
The Gtablet on the other hand gives you the better tablet experience. Yes the viewing angles on the screen are bad, but honestly, its never once been a concern of mine. You have to hold the tablet anyway right? So whats the difference between rotating your wrist a couple of degrees to get a better viewing angle? Its not as big of a problem as everyone makes it out to be. The only time i could see it becoming a problem is if you're laying in bed and want to lay it relatively flat on your stomach or something, then the screen would cause issues. The angles are as bad as people say, but its really not a problem in day to day use. When I use a device I lookat it straight on, so the viewing angle doesn't bother me. I don't understand how everyone seems to be using their tablet in a super tilted manner. Plus if you buy a Clip Case, you can adjust the viewing angle when you set your tablet down on a table or something. I also bought a tablet stand for when I want to use the gtab as an extra monitor in portrait mode.
My point is, if the screen is the ONLY deciding factor between the two for you, then you should go with the nook color. But in all honesty, if you look at each product overall, the gtab is a much better choice if you want a tablet.
You just have to make sure you get rid of the crap software that comes loaded on the gtab for one of the roms here (gtabcomb is really nice). How that piece of crap software was allowed to make it to market is beyond me. Whoever is in charge of quality control needs to be fired yesterday.
thanks, I appreciate all responses. pyro6128 that is just what I wanted to hear.
Yeah I went to bestbuy and looked at the NC and then drove down to office depot and looked at the gtablet and thought it wasn't bad.
Im sure it will give me some good entertainment as well on flights. Just gotta see how soon my dad can order it for me. he owes me some money and I said just get me a tablet . =)
My pc is overclocked, videocard is volt modded and watercooled. I don't mind putting in a little work =)
Since I have 3 tablets and one being a NC running CM7, I can compare the NC and G-tablet closely.
The screen on the NC is sharp and vivid, the only reason I got another 10" tablet is the viewing area.
The screen on the gtablet is not as sharp as the NC and the color is not as vivid, viewing angle is worst then my other 2 tablets, but it is fast and big so I use it instead of my laptop for net access while I am in Starbuck and out of the house. The NC is what I use sitting on the sofa or in bed
Hi,
I'm thinking to buy a new tablet pc for my school. I'll convert my books into pdf files and will continue lessons with tablet pc.
I need:
- Performance(performance means for me, what is smooth on home screen animations and switching between applications)
- Pen, which is has a thin pointer & body and useful for every app any second
- Screen size
And I searched the market for that options, result is : Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 or HTC Flyer.
Now, I need to know truths about HTC Flyer. Let me know them please..
Firstly when I was searching on the market, I tested the Flyer and saw the:
- Screen brightness is not well as SG 10.1
- Screen side plastics(especially left one) are has some empty space or you can create empty space with your hands
- I think performanceful smooth animations depends on operating system version. Honeycomb will not be like that
What about your lookouts? Battery time on usage and more important question: battery life? I mean is battery time is always same on same usage or its decreasing? Screen size is enough to school? Are you using it for school? How about microphone?
Thanks a lot for your answers.
Performance: Great performance, 1.5 GHz, smooth animations unless you install Honeycomb which is in beta and not a great idea to install.
Pen: The pen can only be used in the Notes app, all other drawing apps you must use the back of the pen.
Screen Size: 7 Inch is perfect, about the size of a pencil case or something.
Screen Brightness: The brightness is great, what are you talking about? Jack it up to max.
Screen Side Plastic: Post a picture, don't know what ur talking about.
Performance like i said before is great on the original rom that comes with it.
Battery: Phenomenal, 2 whole days with casual use (checking email, surfing web, watching 40 mins of a movie, playing games.
I love the Flyer.
I think 7" is perfect for me when it comes to reading PDFs or books on here. I'm not exactly sure what books you'll be using, but this is excellent for novels and the such.
Performance, for what you'll need to do, is optimal. In fact, this 1.5 ghz will outperform many of the dual cores out there, since dual core hasn't even matured in tablets yet.
As for the body, the back is made out of a single piece of aluminum and there are some plastic pieces where it need to be. I'm not sure what you're talking about with the side plastics. You will need to have some plastics on the sides of the screens so that you can hold it without your thumb blocking the screen. As for the Samsung, I believe the whole tablet is plastic.
Regarding brightness, again, you'll need to be a bit more specific here. The screen is plenty bright but what I have a problem is that the brightness doesn't really have a "lower" spectrum. For example, it will go from brightest, to very bright, and then off. It becomes too bright to use at night without any lights, but in the day, its phenomenal.
Battery is really good too. I just got mine yesterday ago so don't take my word on it.
Pen is a good tool, especially if you're hand writing, however it has very limited functionality.
Hi guys, screen filter can set to lower brightness.
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ftorres said:
Hi guys, screen filter can set to lower brightness.
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Yeah, I use that at night when I'm reading.
There is no truths...both do the same damn thing. For me it was the build..quality..and feel.flyer kicks butt over it.
According to the AnandTech Review the Flyer's screen brightness is 389 Nits, and the Samsung Galaxy Tab 10.1 is 492. According to the review "You need closer to 600 nits to be usable outdoors in sunlight".
I looked at a $4,000 high end Ruggedized, Daylight Enabled 12" Tablet (with a transflective screen) a couple of weeks ago and my HTC EVO View's screen was easier to read outside. (Although I had to turn it so the sun was not shining on the screen.) It is also easier to see my View's screen outside than my HTC EVO 4G phone.
I also use it to read books at night. I downloaded an app to dim the screen, and at it's lowest setting it's still a little too bright for comfort with the room lights off.
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Pen: The pen can only be used in the Notes app, all other drawing apps you must use the back of the pen.
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Actually the PDF reader uses the pen to annotate, but you can only annotate using plain lines. No fancy brushes.
kkinder said:
Actually the PDF reader uses the pen to annotate, but you can only annotate using plain lines. No fancy brushes.
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You can use the pen on PDF save and send (i.e. signing your name, I do it daily) - You can use to mark pictures and send, I do that 3-8 times week - You can take screen shots and mark them up too - AND of course you can use the pen in the notes app.
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One of Samsung's main businesses is making displays. So its not surprising if the display is slightly more vivid or bright, although I haven't compared side-to-side, myself.
Samsung tabs are cheap plastic all around, and don't exude the sturdy, high build quality that the aluminum unibody on the Flyer or Jetstream do.
Like everyone else said PDFs can be used with the pen I do it for my job. Honeycomb is not a bright idea. But myself I take chances and installed and to me personally I don't find to many faults with it. Nothing I can honestly complain about nothings perfect. It not perfect but I love it. It's depending on your preferences I just play games type up stuff and write notes for work and let my daughter play games and watch netflix and periodically receive and make calls on it. And it works perfectly for that.
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