Anyone know if I can restore a CWR backup after changing the bootloader and kernel? I went to a GB Rom and now I want to go back to my Bionix backup. Both are Voodoo Ext4.
Since over 9000 people have said, reported, experienced that the boot loaders are backward compatible. You will be fine. Enjoy you more convenient button combos.
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I'm more worried about the kernal difference and CWM backup. I guess I could always re flash the original kernal if it loops.
What I reccomend is to odin back to stock then restore your nandroid .i use this method alot of the time
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Im rather curious if the Nandroid backup contains the bootloaders as well.
Anyone know?
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I thought about this and it seemed a bit rash. Although it would be the most thorough and probably yield results most like the original settings.
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Im rather curious if the Nandroid backup contains the bootloaders as well.
Anyone know?
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nandroid doesn't touch bootloaders, kernel or modem for vibrants. (i don't think nanadroid touches anyone's bootloader tbh)
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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well i dont own a vibrant, but from what ive read ODIN is used to get back to stock or if u soft brick ur phone. go to the rom bible for vibrants and you can find easy instruction on how to use ODIN. and there are numerous videos on youtube showing how to use ODIN.
Good luck man
d1zturbe3d said:
So for a while now ive been debating if i should flash my phone with a new rom (or kernel) or if i should just keep it safe and just keep it rooted with nothing else.
Now the biggest thing thats keeping from flashing it is that i really dont know how hard it would be to get it back to stock. Ive been doing my hmwk and been reading through the forums but still im a little lost.
So any help / advice would be welcomed.
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If you have read how to return to stock from a soft brick and are still lost, then I'd say definitely no!
Download Fusion if you do not want TouchWiz, or Bionix if you do. Stick with the stock kernel (for now).
Make sure you have Rom Manager and clockwork recovery working.
install titanium backup and backup all apps + data (I would not bother with system data).
Do a nandroid backup.
Flash your Fusion/Bionix.
If you ever want to go back, just restore your nandroid backup.
( All of these steps are in my signature in much greater detail if needed )
+1 to what s15274n posted.
The first time is always the most nerve-wracking. You've got a great phone, everything works great, & it wasn't cheap. The last thing you want to do is "do something" that might mess it up right? I was in that boat for a while and when I did flash a ROM, I was like..."I was worried why?"
It's pretty simple, I just made sure to sync my contacts/calendar, used AppBrain to sync my apps (you can use Titanium Backup to to this too but I didn't need/want to save any data) and then I was good to go.
I downloaded TGA's One Click Root/Unroot. Then after I made sure SuperUser was installed in the App Drawer I downloaded ROM Manager (Free from the Market), installed it, & ran it.
After that I clicked on ClockWork Recovery inside the app so it would download/install (it's a separate download but dependent upon ROM Manager). After that, I rebooted into recovery from within the ROM Manager. Followed the directions on the menu to perform a nandroid backup then I was good to go.
The directions for installing ROMs are in the beginning of all the ROMs threads plus there's a lot of good information in the Tip & Tricks sticky thread in General and the Team Whiskey site (Home of the Bionix ROMs) has a good writeup.
I tend to stick with the non-Froyo ROMs just because I use the GPS daily and we don't have the GPS drivers for Froyo yet. Eugene's Hybrid & Bionix Fusion are great ROMs to start with. Just pick one with the attributes you like and you won't go wrong.
Hope this helps a bit & have fun flashing,
~SB
Thank you all for your advice and help. I already downloaded Rom Manager and titanium back up all i have to do now is pick a rom and go for it...and i think i will actually pick one and do it later today.
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Flash away my friend. I must warn you that flashing is addictive!!
Always do a Nandroid backup before Flashing. If you screw up, you can always ODIN back to Stock. ODIN is your friend!!
When flashing, I prefer to flash through Clockwork Mod. You can flash through ODIN too but Clockwork is easier.
I would also suggest making sure you can get into Download mode without adb or terminal commands as well.
If you can't then you'll want to check the bible on the method to fix the hardware lock.
Also, if you haven't yet upgraded your phone to JI6, you should SIM unlock your phone (I believe you lose this option when you go to JI6) and backup the folder that has your unlock (should also be in the bible). You may never need it, but it's definitely a nice option to have, especially on a phone that can get the AT&T 3g signal (well, one radio band of it anyways).
Hey guys so I flashed my phone earlier today using the bionix stock rom. Everything went great but then I tried going back to stock using nandroid and my phone ended being stuck at the Vibrant logo screen. After realizing that it was stuck I just went back to the bionix rom. Anyone know why nandroid wasn't able to restore me back to my back up?
Also if I wanted to install another rom would I just download it and install it or would I would have to go back to stock then flash it??
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Sounds like you had the jac or kk kernel, and not the stock.
Nandroid doesn't restore the kernel, so you have to flash the stock kernel before.
Does the stock bionix come with a different kernel? Because I thought my kernel didn't change. I checked before and after flashing and my kernel was the same?
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Nope...stock Bionix is the regular JI6 kernel.
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even if you have the stock kernel of a custom Rom. when you do a nandroid restore your phone will be soft bricked. they say that after you restore, you have to flash the stock kernel too in the recovery mode.
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Aright I guess I need to download the j16 kernel
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I tried upgrading my girlfriend's Vibrant to one of the new 2.2 ROMs and she didn't like it, so I disabled voodoo, booted into recovery and attempted to restore the backup I made in nandroid. After 30 minutes of hanging on 'restoring data', I gave up and tried to reboot. Phone is now stuck in the vibrant logo and will not boot into recovery. Tried pulling the battery and it just reboots back to the Vibrant logo.
I know there is a way to fix this with something called Odin? (not sure if that's the name). My only problem is I don't want to delete any of her non-restorable stuff. Is there any way to fix this without deleting anything that can't be restored? Also, any idea why the nandroid backup didn't work? I'm afraid that even if I can get back into recovery, the restore will just freeze again.
I did notice when it was wiping to install the ROM originally, it also froze on deleting data, but a reboot fixed that. So maybe a reboot will fix that too but I'm not sure. Any help?
do you reboot when you have disabled voodoo and hear linda say 'convertion successful' ? sometime it will not work proper if you disable and flash something without reboot
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Yeah I used the flashable disable zip thru rom manager.
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Yeah I used the flashable disable zip thru rom manager.
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*edit* it is because kernel i think
BTW post wrong section..
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I made this same mistake the first time I flashed. What it is, its that nandroid does not backup the kernel, so you have to flash one with the same version of android. At this point you will have to use odin to do it then once you have you can do a nandroid restore.
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o i'v just got what your problem is！ you should flash a 2.1kernel before nand restore. because it will not restore your kernel
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I made this same mistake the first time I flashed. What it is, its that nandroid does not backup the kernel, so you have to flash one with the same version of android. At this point you will have to use odin to do it then once you have you can do a nandroid restore.
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I think maybe he can get into recovery and flash a new 2.1 kernel. Will this work?
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Post in the right forum and you will get the answer to how to fix it.
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look at the bright side... at least ur Vibrant isnt stuck on the Captivate screen....
I'm sorry about posting in the wrong forum, honest mistake but it won't happen again. Can someone exolain to me what I need to do, in order, to fix this? I need to use odin, then flash a 2.1 kernel, then run nandroid restore? Which 2.1 kernel should I use?
So I flashed onyx r4 before they pulled it. Overall, I like fusion 1.2 more and I'm about to restore it.
I plan on flashing fusion to get the kernel, but do I have to boot up before I restore using nandroid? Or can I flash fusion, and while still in cwm restore my backup?
I checked a bunch of threads, but haven't seen that clarified one way or the other, so I'm sorry if I simply missed it.
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I'd boot once just to be safe--it's not like anything bad can happen. Well, the phone can explode but only 10% of the time.
If I try a rom not for my phone and then nandroid restore, will it restrore my old kernel as well? Or will I be stuck with the wrong kernel for my phone. I dont want to be stuck with non working hardware keys or something crazy.
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Yes it restores everything including the kernel.
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Good to know.
Do I need to restore the ROM I made my nandriod from first? Or can I restore my previous nandriod off any ROM I'm currently using?
I'm sure this has had to been asked before, but maybe I'm using the xda search wrong.
Thanks
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Do I need to restore the ROM I made my nandriod from first? Or can I restore my previous nandriod off any ROM I'm currently using?
I'm sure this has had to been asked before, but maybe I'm using the xda search wrong.
Thanks
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Just wipe in Aron Ra and then restore from your nandroid. I commonly jump from Rom to Rom, just make sure you wipe in between.
Yupyup your nandroid reverts you to whatever that particular nandroid saved..
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Thanks guys. I'm not sure what is wrong with my phone. Clean ROM 4.3 was the only one that would work for me, until this morning. I finally got RAGE1.8 to work. All other ROMs would boot loop, including all Clean ROMs after 4.3. I had been reinstalling Clean ROM and then restoring the nandriod, I'm glad I can skip one step if I need to go back.
Make sure you wipe before you restore a nandroid. If you don't it could cause it to bootloop.
Also if you're s on it could be an issue with kernel compatibility
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I am S on. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought loading the PH98IMG file in the bootloader was loading the kernel.
First, you really should S-Off, it will make it a whole lot easier, it will allow you to jump from Rom to Rom a lot easier. Be careful because some new roms call for the latest firmware to run correctly.
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I am S on. Maybe I'm wrong, but I thought loading the PH98IMG file in the bootloader was loading the kernel.
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It has to be the ph file from the rom you are on