Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
Set the screen to automatically turn off after 15-30 seconds, use the LTE on/off app to disable 4G by forcing 3G only unless you need the extra speed (assuming you even have 4G where you are), don't use dynamic themes, limit how often apps sync data, set the screen brightness to automatic, and use a task killer to manually kill (don't use auto-kill unless there is an auto-kill whitelist as most apps don't need it) stubborn apps that want to constantly run in the background.
If and when she is willing to let you root it, then use SetCPU to underclock when the screen is off and freeze (or rename) the built in apps that she doesn't use as many of them will not only run on boot but will keep reloading themselves if killed.
Using all of that, I can get over 30 hours on standby assuming fairly light usage (a few hours of talking via bluetooth). Of course, with heavy usage (such as with streaming video like the tv.com or epix apps) the battery life is much lower.
elpeterson said:
Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
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Use juice defender from the market to turn off 4G while the screen is off. This added about 4 hours of battery life to my phone, standard battery.
Juice defender and green power are both great apps. As far as killing tasks, I've read that killing tasks can actually decrease your battery life because of how android handles the tasks and ram.
Androids tries to keep as many apps in ram to make loading faster, and if you kill all apps, the system will start loading them again, using more of your cpu, therefore decreasing barry life and slowing the phone down. Android had a very good and smart task manager built in to the os.
That is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.
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If you can't root, the next best option is a spare or extended battery. Apps like Juice Defender help a little, but no software can replace a real battery. I used JD until I bought some batteries on ebay.
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Tell her to either let you root it, or you will sell the TB and get her a WP7 phone...
orkillakilla said:
Juice defender and green power are both great apps. As far as killing tasks, I've read that killing tasks can actually decrease your battery life because of how android handles the tasks and ram.
Androids tries to keep as many apps in ram to make loading faster, and if you kill all apps, the system will start loading them again, using more of your cpu, therefore decreasing barry life and slowing the phone down. Android had a very good and smart task manager built in to the os.
That is my understanding. If I am wrong, please correct me.
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It can, but there are also quite a few apps that will keep consuming lots of CPU cycles in the background. Some games are like this as well as some of the video streaming apps.
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It can, but there are also quite a few apps that will keep consuming lots of CPU cycles in the background. Some games are like this as well as some of the video streaming apps.
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This is true. Autostarts (in the market) prevents such apps from running in the background & draining battery.
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my phone is rooted, bloat removed, cm7 installed - i had this weird issue last night where i was charged up to 100% went to bed and phone was dead in the AM. apparently it died about 5 hours in. I looked at the battery info and saw that nothing was running, but the phone kept going "awake" intermittently. Looking at spare parts for the detailed abttery info i didn;'t see anything that was holding wake locks...
Not sure what the issue was. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore
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Just picked this up for my girlfriend. I currently have an Incredible, rooted with CM. She will not (or at least I havent convinced her to) let me root at this point.
What are some ways/apps to help manage the battery?? Connecting to Wifi at work will help the 3G/4G search drain but I need to take it further.
I'm looking for all suggestions, from sync setup to brightness setup to animations to apps.
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Turn off wifi when its not available.. scanning for it can drain your battery quite a lot. Obviously turn 4g seach off if you are not near a 4g area. I have my screen turned down to about 30-40% and it stays there(its quite bright at that % anyways). Dont use any task killing programs.. android OS has a very nifty task killer program on it already where it prioritizes what tasks stay running or don't. I have heard good things about juice defender you might want to check it out. Turn off sync for all apps and put the manual sync widget on your screen and that will also save some battery. Those should help some but a big one which killed my battery before I rooted was the bloatware apps that HTC puts on the phone. Blockbuster runs something in the background that will kill your battery. It is called PMVtpServiceStart force stop it in running processes and open up blockbuster then install the latest update and then force close it again and blockbuster. That should stop it from running. However you have to do this every time you reboot. Those are all my suggestions.. maybe buy a car charger if you drive a lot. I have one and its nifty to just plug it in whenever I drive to get a little bit more power! Good luck on your phone. PM me if you have any more questions.
i loved juice defender and used to recommend it to everyone, but a week or so ago, i had an issue to where my 3G stopped working altogether. I could still turn my 4G on, and force 3G to come on to check for software updates, but then it would go back off. After 24 hrs of no 3G, i uninstalled Juice defender, and after a couple of reboots, 3G came back on.
I guess there is no way to prove for sure if it was juice defender, but i feel that it was. If you are willing to take the risk, i was able to get 1.6 to 1.8 times more battery life out of juice defender.
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my phone is rooted, bloat removed, cm7 installed - i had this weird issue last night where i was charged up to 100% went to bed and phone was dead in the AM. apparently it died about 5 hours in. I looked at the battery info and saw that nothing was running, but the phone kept going "awake" intermittently. Looking at spare parts for the detailed abttery info i didn;'t see anything that was holding wake locks...
Not sure what the issue was. Doesn't seem to be happening anymore
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might be a problem with the charging cable, and the phone would connect and disconnect and so it would wake constantly, had this before
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might be a problem with the charging cable, and the phone would connect and disconnect and so it would wake constantly, had this before
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It wasn't plugged in at the time.
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i loved juice defender and used to recommend it to everyone, but a week or so ago, i had an issue to where my 3G stopped working altogether. I could still turn my 4G on, and force 3G to come on to check for software updates, but then it would go back off. After 24 hrs of no 3G, i uninstalled Juice defender, and after a couple of reboots, 3G came back on.
I guess there is no way to prove for sure if it was juice defender, but i feel that it was. If you are willing to take the risk, i was able to get 1.6 to 1.8 times more battery life out of juice defender.
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can juice defender control 4g?
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can juice defender control 4g?
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i'm not sure, i typically had my 4g turned off unless i had a big download or was streaming/using mobile hotspot. It would automatically shut the 3G off when the screen was locked, but then one day the 3G just wouldn't come back on. I went into the wireless network settings and flipped the LTE back on, and that worked fine. With my work, I am in/out of 3G-4G coverage, so having just 4G is unacceptable. After uninstalling juice defender and restarting several times, it came back on. Could have been a coincidence, could have been the MR2 radio, could have been a combo, i don't know.
Does the TB continue to search for 4G when the screen is off? Or does the 4G only drain your battery when you're actually connected to it?
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I have been messing around with system tuner app for a while now and I really like the program.
I would like to hear from people who have used this app and their results with various tweaks that this app provides.
in the boot settings menu:
1. forcing both CPU's online: this should technically give you a better battery life, since it puts less strain on on cpu at a time, has anyone had a good exprience using this?
2. Boost app loading: anyone had any significant improvement with this?
My own settings:
I usually clock my phone at 1.5 (on demand governor) even though faux's kernel allows 1.7 max. I put max clock for screen off at 384 and conservative governor.
I have Undervolted before but do not see a very significant battery difference so I just left it alone.
I tried out the autokill option of system tuner, I only tried to kill the ghost apps, to refrain from the cpu from having to keep restarting the phone, but this also seems to kill battery life...In my experience any type of task killer however detailed will reduce battery and does not increase performance, unless you're running a poorly written app that just needs to be killed.
I use three other programs to monitor my phone
1. system pannel: very good at finding rogue apps that kill cpu...I highly recommend the pro version, you can get a history of what has used cpu up to a week.
2. Onavo and My data manger which basically monitor my wifi and mobile traffic, Onavo only monitors mobile network traffic and lets you restrict apps to only wifi. however it does not measure wifi use of data. My data manager monitor both wifi and network usage but does not give you any options to do anything with the apps, it basically tells you what program is using data while on wifi and mobile.
If anyone has found a good balance between performance and battery saving, please do share.
Thank you.
I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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I read some other guy also mentioned the all cpus on thing. im not sure but isnt it the same as making both processors work at the same time which leads to phone overheating? I will give it a try though. from what you noticed, do you like it more with both cpu on or is better the way it was?
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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technically this is how it's supposed to work pic attatched, but I don't know if our roms or even the dual core rom that's out works in this manner, if it did we would be seeing significant battery savings
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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will see then. hey seansk do you notice some kind of hesitation when trying to unlock the phone? when u press the unlock button at the top. I think that boost app loading thing causes this cuz when have it enabled the unlock button you have to press it twice to work, while when disabling that boost app loading thing all works fine...
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I have widget locker and havn't had that problem...I just flashed faux's latest kernel and am in the process of re calibrating my battery, it seemed to jump from 100 to 90 in about 10 minutes!!!!!! now I noticed that happening...but I havn't had time to fully replicate it...i need more time..I believe it might have something to do with fauxes kernel, he mentioned that when screen goes off he it puts the phone into a low power consumption mode, but also has something that when you turn it on, is quick to turn on!!! we'll have to wait and see.
If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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If you've been following this thread, just wanted make a quick update...I want to give you my results with system tuner tweaking. Forcing both cores online is a bad idea. It will literally kill your battery in a matter of a couple of hours. ICS will hopefully be different and utilize the cores how they should be, saving some battery and giving the amaze longer battery life!
On the other hand reducing reducing clock frequency on screen off will help in battery life (obviously).
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I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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Felinos11 said:
I was noticing the same. It eats more battery. Have u tried reducing the frequency when screen off and by how much? U still r stock rom?
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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yes still stock rooted, I put the governor on conservative and put the frequency to 384 or around there, while screen is off.
What helps most I found out is turning off all the radios like wifi and network data, (basically putting phone on airplane mode). Instead of dropping down 15 percent in 6 hours it drops like 3 when I turn airplane on. But like I've said before it's unrealistic I'm always recieving google talk, google voice, facebook updates and I have to have both of these on which unfortunately eats a lot of battery.
I keep switching back and forth between faux's kernel and stock and I'm actually finding stock gives me better battery life for some reason. Even though I set the clock speeds on both at 1.5 ghz.
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is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
Felinos11 said:
is the stock rom any better? Im thinking to switch to stock now X left..
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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never used bulletproof for more than a day or beastmod for more than a day. I hear beastmod gives much better battery life. I'm sticking to stock for now until ICS comes out.
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They have maybe a bit better battery life. I went back to stock.
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Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Data Connection, Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
heyodee said:
Battery Life
Major battery drain is the screen, when on eats up all the juice, dimming helps a bit
charge source: usb vs AC charge
usb charging takes quite a while, AC charge quicker (~ an hour)
Also, from my observation, usb charged battery runs out quicker than AC charge
Juice defender helps a lot
turn off sync you don't need, like HTC sense
if something is eating up your battery, use this http://market.android.com/details?i...ePad&utm_medium=app&utm_campaign=contextpanel. The thread is located http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
heyodee said:
Juice defender is worth it (Very configurable)
If you want to know what is eating away at your battery when phone is suppose to be sleeping, the battery stat is
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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while you sleep, you won't be checking for emails will you? but you expect to wake and see emails received.... that is where it comes in handy. with apps like tasker, you can automate some of this activities. tasker + syncer should be a good combo for you.
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well the problem is its not my screen. It's when the phone is idle, I usually lose about 15 to 20 percent over night. if I turn off the radios it drops down to about 3 to 4 percent overnight....like I said before I can't turn off the radios...I constantly use google voice, google talk, facebook. And they require both a cell connection and a data connection. I hate to pay for more apps...I've already paid for a bunch of apps to control and see my phone's usage of cpu and battery...is the app really worth it? wish they had a lite version
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
I've noticed the same type of activity when in Airplane mode. Extremely low power consumption - fantastic.
Is it possible maybe to undervolt the Wifi/BT/Mobile radios? Would that make any difference or am I off base here?
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I have juicedefender ultimate, used it for a while actually...the only good use of it is turns off radios all other things when screen is off..all other things are negligible to battery life...I currently don't use it anymore. I tried multiple things/tweaks with it for about two weeks,...NO point lol...I want to be able to get my google talk message and my google voice texts, it annoyed the hell out of me when someone had sent something like 2 hours before and I would just get it when I woke my phone!!! I tried all kinds of things...but the only thing that actually worked was turning off radios during screen off which I don't want...I can't win lol....I can't have my cake and eat it too!!
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You had something setup wrong then I think.. you can change how often in syncs while the screen is off, the default setting is for it to turn on data for 1 minute every 15 minutes. Most people don't need to know things so bad that they can't work with a 14 minute delay(at worst), and of couse the internet is on while screen is on, when you're actually using it.
I thought I would need to use juice defender, but since I switched to bulletproof, my usage last me an entire day. From 8am till 1am, usually with some to spare. The only tweak I made to cpu was to enable 192mhz, it isn't like there is a performance drop, but it did make a notable difference in battery life.
If I wanted to I could use juice defender to get more than one day out of it, and I keep a spare battery on me in case I really need to use the phone.. but haven't really needed it.
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For what it is worth I am running BulletProof 2.3.1 and last night I took phone off charger at 10:00 PM, alarm goes off at 3:30 snoozing every 15 min until 4:15...Battery was at 100% still. It is now 7:00 AM and battery is at 96%.
This was after flashing back to BP around 8:00 PM.
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Hi All, I have been using the Xda for long time and I am a bit greed and I never register, yep that's right, hate plz come.
But anyway, I have used too many phones that I can't even remember.
Last couples of week, I got rid off my Nexus one and got A Razr, but the disparagement start right with the battery life!
First a few days, I was using only wifi, as one of my number does not has Web pack on it, and I notice a horrible battery performance on the device and I am
Later on, I activied my internet on phone and here comes my theory.
I notice the Wifi is always running for some reason on the background even if I set it as turn of when screen off, when I check the battery usage, it shows almost every second that wifi is on. That should not be right, it should turn it self off when screen off, and it is not doing that.
Second of all, later on, I noticed something like *WIFI* shows under battery usage, and I was thinking what the heck is that, cause there is another "WIFI" still showing, and also something called" .com.motorola.contact. something like that is waking the phone and using the wifi as well.
And there also something like"motorola.home" running and using wifi for ages. Very strange.
OK, then I went out today, yes, I most of the time stay @ home, na I am joking..
I am mostly in a place with WIFI, home, work place, and Uni. All wifi here and there. Today, I took train 3 hrs total out and back from Birmingham to London for those who like stories. it was 1:30 afternoon battery @ 80% then I listen to music for 1 hr and use whatsapp quite a bit(battery hunger app even on iOS)
On the way back I played GTA 3 for one good hour. and it is now 9PM, and 15% left, as later on I tweet a bit, web a bit. which is good, also I took underground so signal is not always there.
After all these my question is for those who had the battery drain, are U in a wifi enviornment quite a bit time and use wifi?
If so, set the wifi sleep policy to Never(this actually will help) and while not using wifi to use heavy data stuff, turn it OFF and see what happen.
Also turn off GPS espically if you have facebook on phone and also the using wirelsess connection for location, turn that off as well.
BTW the GPS on Razr is reallllllly fast on location, it took 5 second to find me from cold boot. Awesome.
And I don't use task killer or smart action, I think using sensor and active these sensor to save battery while they are using a lot juice is not so smart.
BTW: due to I am on and off subway, my iPhone4s dropped a good 15% without any use, it just sitting in my pocket. (as for now, Android is the fun bit, iOS is the backup, as it does hold battery better a bit...lol)
I am on 2.3.6 (651.167.19.XT910.retail.en.EU)
I flash the rom couple of times, it all shows me WIFI is doing some strange thing.
Today still draining and I use a data usage checker and find that moto blur is using a hug a mount of data, WTF!?
I find battery performance vastly better on wifi than 3G. Mine has had atrociously bad battery life recently, so I'm backtracking through stock ROMs to see if I can replicate the setup I got 5+ hours of screen-on time with.
Gotta love those updates. The sooner data works properly in custom ICS ROMs for the XT912, the better.
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before a week i got v3c with version want to extend battery does any one know if it comes with door ??
give us a link have a look? I am looking for the Maxx to replace on my normal razr
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I've been using SetCPU to create profiles on the ondemand governor and extrapolating from my general usage during commute, news/texts/im, fair amount of screen on time, I'm getting around 10% drain per hour which is fairly nice. With screen off and 3g running leaving the phone to idle, it drops to around 3-4% per hour which is significantly better from what I was getting right out of the box.
Battery test for Motorola RAZR XT910
Yesterday I decided to do a simple test with my new smartphone, a Motorola RAZR, I shall not charge until he get just 15% of battery remaining. So here I will put the results and thoughts about it.
8:00 AM: I woke up and took XT910 off the charger. Wi-fi was turned on;
8:00 - 9:00 AM: I passed one hour using Pulse to read some news, once or twice I shared some news in the Twitter and Facebook, with the Wi-fi on, of course. The Battery got 85%;
9:00 - 10:00 AM: I started to use Whatsapp to chat with a buddy, took at least 45 minutes of intensive use, battery got 70%;
10:00 - 11:00 AM: Cellphone in stand-by, BUT with the wi-fi on, waiting for someone, battery got 60% yet!;
11:00 - 12:00 AM: That one appeared, so I used Whatsapp again for 30 minutes, and battery got 50%;
12:00 AM - 2:00 PM: Two hours with the cells blocked, but still with wireless connection, 40%;
2:00 PM – 4:00 PM: Motorola in stand-by, now with the wi-fi turned off, so, in the first hour, he keep 40% and in the second, he got 30%;
4:00 PM – 5:15 PM: The final test, I passed just one hour playing Ceramic Destroyer without stopping, the battery got 15% and then the phone asked for charging!;
Well, the battery last for 8 hours with wi-fi turned on almost all time, so I think it's was fair, BUT, the battery status is a bit fake, I don't think that the information was correct, but, it works when is a simple test, you know, right?
We all know about the 1,2 Ghz processor, this drains a lot of battery, but the real villain is the connection, wi-fi or 3G, they both spend so much energy of the cel.
My last thought is... always charge your phone when it's possible, even if you don't use in an intensive form, I hope that you'll not have problems because a low-batterys cell phone.
One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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One thing I've found is that when my battery is draining like a tub it's has nothing to do with any data connection. In running apps there's a media process that keeps my phone running at full bore. If I just kill that I get dramatically better battery life. Normally when I don't have to deal with that I can last all day with a quick touch up charge during the middle of the day. This on my xt912.
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
I know theres is some apps that drains battery, one tip is just deactive the auto-sync with your accounts, other thing, I want a batterystatus app, to know better that stuff.
And I will try this connection app, thanks
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Man I even turned off my smart actions, so far I only turn on things when I am really using them. Auto-sync only with wifi!
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your right, certain apps can affect battery life so it is ok to kill running task. however just want to make sure other users know that using task killer to constantly kill many apps is not a good idea! most of the apps will prob restart and this cycle will only drain your battery more. whatsapp is a good example, even they state on their homepage you should remove from task killing as battery would drain not just from the constant restart of the app but also the fact that it would continue to regain connection to their server whenever it restarts.
try use a dark colour like black as you know white colour drains much more battery. if your a constant user of google (maybe even if its your homepage too) try use the black google version. save some battery.
i think personally for me 3g uses more battery than wifi. another factor is the network bars that drains battery if low as constantly hanging onto that low connection.
you should try flight mode and see how the battery fairs there so you can get a rough idea.
also come across an app called FreshNetwork which is a signal booster & finder. Android Market - 4.7 out of 5 Star overall rating! (9,152) as i speak, and it does work.. theres been times where ive had 1 bar connections but after using it i get like 3/4bars. so it helps ease the battery drain there as connection is much better.
hope its of some help guys!!
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Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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keeb119 said:
Its something stock with the phone. I just got a second and it still does it. I haven't figured out what starts it. But once I kill it, like I said my battery life is fantastic.
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what did you kill?
there are some very important factors of battery draining follow
Display Timeout,Display Brightness,Bluetooth Inactivity
I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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I've complied a list of battery saving tips and put them on my blog! Please do have a look!
The link to my blog is in my signature!
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hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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what did you kill?
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In running processes, the vague media process. Auto starts and kills battery quickly.
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Mobzter said:
hey first of all nice site secondly your tips are pretty much on the dot.. just thought of these apps people might find useful
autostarts - helps with disabling apps from auto starting when phone boots up (may be slightly speed up boot?) & also prevent certain app event triggers (maybe an app permission u aint happy with?)
FreshNetwork - helps locate better signals in which in return would improve battery life
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Thanks for the suggestions! I have added them to the list of battery tweaks!
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Razr MAXX running ICS leak
I decided to let my battery run down to zero last night and let it charge while I sleep. I got to work this morning and just notice my battery is at 50%! The only change I really made yesterday was re-enabling smart actions, and setting a wifi connected trigger to turn data off. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the drain. Here are some screens.
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I have no clue what "deleted_wake_locks" is. All my google results seem to point to wifi usage, and am thinking there is an issue with Smart Actions and Wifi might be the culprits.
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Razr MAXX running ICS leak
I decided to let my battery run down to zero last night and let it charge while I sleep. I got to work this morning and just notice my battery is at 50%! The only change I really made yesterday was re-enabling smart actions, and setting a wifi connected trigger to turn data off. I'm thinking this may be the cause of the drain. Here are some screens.
I have no clue what "deleted_wake_locks" is. All my google results seem to point to wifi usage, and am thinking there is an issue with Smart Actions and Wifi might be the culprits.
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There is an app that is not letting your wifi sleep.
Something is keeping your wifi on all the time and eating up your battery. Check out this app in the market and report back with the results, it's called "My Data Manager" and it will tell you which app or process is eating up all your wifi. Let me know what it says.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.mobidia.android.mdm&hl=en
This might be helpful as well, this guy changed the DTIM interval on his router and it fixed his issue.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=14510569&postcount=1564
I've found on the stock rom, the Verizon wifi control app works well for turning wifi on and off by cellular location, ive heard tasker does this well also. Ive had no luck with smart actions. You also might want to go to settings, wireless, wifi settings, hit menu, then advanced settings, then change the sleep policy, if you have root you could also change the scan interval by editing the build.prop or using rom tool box. But do kill the wake lock, it not only keeps the wifi from sleeping, it also keeps your phone from going into its low power state
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I am having a similar problem with my Razr (not MAXX). Just today i noticed the phone getting hot in my pocket. I then saw the battery was almost dead after only 4 hours unplugged and very little use. I recently rooted and flashed the clutch extreme version. I dont use wifi. I have autokilled everything useless, ive checked the running apps and nothing wierd seems to be running, in the battery usuage, after 4 hours unplugged "google services" and "android os" both had 33% of the battery use. But like i said i cant see what is draning it...any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Even im having some issue there's a process called Media which always is 92% and eats lot of battery.....so is there any way to kill this process?
If your phone is rooted my advice is to use ti backup and freeze the bloat ware the list of pre installed apps safe to freeze/uninstall can be found in the forum, when your phone reports "android os" "system" "media" its a general term that covers built in apps. The major culprit ive found is Verizon's back up apps, media is probably motocast, try mulling around in the settings and set the sync settings to as minimal as possible, also if you guys don't mind, I'm curious about this, when i first had batt life problems i ran voodoo ota and disabled root and forgot to re-enable root, with bloat and all i seemed to have better bat life, anyone want to test and see if its the same for them? Wondering if Verizon is being sneaky, and pulling carrier iq -esqe info from rooted stock
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
ok guys i found solution to media process.....Android media was trying to update it's music player and galery and since there were some media files which were too big in size and seems other files were corrupt so Media was trying to read them and thus eating up lot of clock cycles and thus draining battery. So once you identify which media file is causing the problem then media process get's minimal. About android OS process there's nothing we can do except to freeze some bloat.
Another way to disable media, though you have to do it every time you reboot, is to kill the process in running process in settings then applications. Mine does the same thing.
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
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I was under the impression that the android os has a safety built in that keeps you from actually reaching 0, and the process of draining your phone until it shuts off, wiping battery stats in recovery, and charging too full while shut down was more to retrain the os to see 100% at a closer point to full and 0% at a lower safe point of shutdown... i know flashing roms not at 100% battery can muck up the scale, a good indicator is that your phone shuts off from low battery, you reboot and it reports a something like 20-30% battery
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Never let your battery go down to zero. That is very bad for lithium batteries.
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I would assume this is true for all android devices but at least for Razr I can assure you that it will turn off the phone before the battery gets below the critical voltage. That said it is almost always better to recharge well before it gets that low and as much as it is possible charge to full. I almost always charge over night.
I've tried a bunch of different combinations but I have gone back to GB every time. I don't even care about features anymore I just want to get the most out of my battery life. If you are getting great battery life will you post your kernel, firmware, and ROM please? Please post if you are on Ext Batt or not.
Thanks
I have an extended battery and I think my battery life is really good. Primarily, I turn off most automatic syncing and keep my screen turned down as low as possible at all times. I use a widget called Brightness Level and I keep it at 13% most of the time. I also keep GPS, Bluetooth, and WiFi off unless I specifically need them. Other than that, I'm not doing anything special. I'm on Clean ROM 4.5 Standard.
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I think the biggest culprit is the screen. I'll get varying battery life every day, anywhere from 2 to 12 hours on a standard battery, or 4 to 30 hours on extended.
The only common factor in each of these for me is screen-on time. I'll get 1.5-2 hours on standard or 3.5-4.5 on the extended battery before it dies.
However, as previously mentioned, turning off Bluetooth, wifi, GPS, mobile data, and sync will always help battery life. Too bad I rely heavily on some form of data, email, and Bluetooth headsets for my work.
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I've got a system...
I usually can get through the day with a regular battery; a few things to remember:
1) Mail/messaging/anything push
if you can deal with it, set peak hours from like 7am to 7pm and get stuff every two hours during peak and every four hours during off-peak. Push means your phone is actively waiting or doing something almost all the time. This one single thing will make the biggest difference, except for...
2) The Display
The biggest energy hog of all. Actually not much you can do here but set it to time out quickly (a minute or less) and set to either auto brightness or remember to turn it down indoors.
3) Audio
Running audio through the speakers also uses more battery. Try headphones.
Bluetooth audio is great but again bluetooth also uses more energy than headphones.
4) Networking startup services
Lots of games install startup services that run constantly in the background checking for data from the mothership and/or other players. Get rid of them or turn them off if you can. Some apps also do this, I dont have a list but a little Googling will enlighten you.
Any other tips? I'm always looking for other (reasonable) ways to save battery.
PS: as you probably know, the phone (and any smartphone) will charge about %500 faster if its completely turned off. Common sense, I know, but you'd be surprised...
this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
Thanks for the replies. I changed my power from performance to normal and that made a big difference because the phone won't sleep in performance mode. Just a note it will still sleep data even though my hotmail is on push. I am using the hotmail app not the htc mail app. I see people with 3+ hours of battery life in the battery thread and I don't see how they do it. I have the extended and I can make it through a day but I only use the screen for under an hour it seems. I'm not really seeing anything new in here I'm not doing but I do keep my screen auto a lot so I might jack that down. I keep every feature off when not in use.
I'm using stock rooted 3.14.605.5 with same firmware and over been getting better battery life since flashing.
I'm mad as hell about losing unlimited data!
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this will keep you going all day:
http://www.amazon.com/Xantrex-XPowe...IC/ref=sr_1_12?ie=UTF8&qid=1337500958&sr=8-12
Seriously though, if you actually use your phone throughout the day, its probably better to just get the extended battery. Anytime you turn the screen on, it sucks battery.
You can try juice defender. I have it set to extreme and tell it which apps can turn on data with and without screen on, so 4g is only on when it needs to be.
I've heard ROM toolbox can keep apps from opening in the background but haven't paid for it yet. This would be good for games like draw something and WWF that seem to suck power constantly.
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Man, That's some serious ****
I generally get great battery life-around 4 hours screen on, 4g, gps. However, a few days ago I noticed higher than normal temps, and poor battery life.
So what changed?
I traced it to the installation of one free app. Picsart-uninstalled and everything is peachy again.
This is my second rezound, the first one always ran hot and drained the battery.
If you're having problems with heat and drain, run a full ruu and see if it helps, if not you may have a bad device or possibly a bad sim. I don't think that the device is the problem in most situations. More likely a runaway app, bad radio/firmware/build combo, user error, or expectations too high.
My setup:
Latest ruu-cleanrom de 1.4-take it easy on the apps and widgets!
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
We're pretty close.
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SightSeeker said:
This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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Your issue may lay mostly in poor reception. I notice your signal strength thing is in yellow most of the time. Use WiFi if you can. I get pretty good battery life on
Ineffibilis GB
Feb OTA firmware. Don't remember the numbers.
Dsb 1.1.3 undervolted by about 100mv via incredicontrol (UV depends on the device, each is diff) and under clocked to 1188mhz and with interactive governor.
I think my power setting is on Normal.
Also I have weather sync every 3 hrs. Facebook every 4 and leave my Gmail accounts on sync.
I get between 3.5 and 5 hours every day of screen on time through out the day if I'm using my phone a lot. This would also be coupled with usually around 30 minutes of phone calls too. But usually I only charge it every other day (when it gets to around 30%). I get more time out of it on WiFi (5+ hrs and less on 4G (3.5 to 4 hrs at most throughout the day). I also never run my phone down to less than 20% if I can help it. I'm on stock battery too
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This is pretty typical. I'm on newest leak and firmware and cleanrom pro 4.5.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
Right. Battery should only drop 1 to 2 percent per hour on good signal. Bad signal can kill it... If I was on 3G my phone would be around the mid 90s with the same usage.
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That battery life isn't great if you're only using 9m of screen on time. 60% after 5 hours isn't unusual for me if I have medium usage of my phone. Like platinum mentioned, your signal is terrible. The Rezound (and most phones) tend to use a lot of battery if they're trying to constantly find a signal.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
As long as you don't have partial wake issues, there are only two real concerns for battery.
It's not processor. Again, if the phone's not 'awake' while the screen is off, your phone's processor is not ramping up to full speed at all. While it's on and in your hand, 1.5ghz is a great speed for it to operate. Slower speeds than that significantly slow down how your phone operates, and you will have your screen on for seconds longer (Which uses WAY more battery than the higher clock speed).
In Facebook app, go to menu > settings > and change the refresh interval to NEVER!!!
As of Android 2.2, Facebook does push notifications. You don't need Facebook refreshing very 4 hours (OR EVER!). This wakes up your phone (ramps up processor speed, and so on), uses data (battery), and is unnecessary (since you get push notifications anyway). Turn that crap off. Same with Twitter. Turn it down to manual refreshing only (look in settings > accounts and sync as well as in the app). Same with Friendstream (which will automatically have its own refresh settings - fix them).
There are two things that use your battery.
1 - Screen. Turn your screen off when you're not using it. Stop turning your screen on every 12 minutes to 'see if you have any notifications'. Trust the green LED blinking light, or listen for your phone. You can stop checking it. You're using a TON of battery lighting up that 4.3" screen AND waking the phone back up (ramping up the processor, among other things, and it will stay awake for at least minutes, even after the screen goes back off).
2 - Data. Turn wifi off if you're not using it. Turn Mobile Network (GASP!) off when you're not using it. Pull down your notifications and hit Quick Settings, and turn Mobile Network off. Don't have that? Make the HTC Widget > settings > Mobile network. Turn it off when you're out with your friends after midnight. a) you're not going to post anything reasonable or coherent when you're out drinking anyway to Facebook, and b) call and text still works, so you can still mack on honeys all night (and text them drunkenly). You don't need your damn Gmail at 1am. I know you don't. Don't try to convince me otherwise.
If you keep your screen time to a minimum (and brightness down if you're not using auto brightness), and TURN OFF mobile network (internet) when not using it, your battery will last DAYS. Yes, the stock battery. Now, do you do 100+ texts per day? Sorry, your battery is going to die today. And tomorrow. Every day. The screen time murders the battery, and the Wake time that your phone will have as a result (like every time the phone lights up - for minutes at a time, it'll stay 'awake').
That's how you keep your battery going. On any android phone. Yes, an extended battery works great. I bought one (half price in a verizon store) AND got an EXTRA one for $4 (on amazon.com). Yes, it's for thunderbolt, but YES it's the same part number. It's running my phone right now. Keep it charged, and in your glove compartment. Your life will be better.
http://www.amazon.com/dp/B0055OTNK4/ref=pe_175190_21431760_C1_cs_sce_3p_dp_1
Go get it. Turn off your internet, and your screen. Trust your LED notification light. Stop using MMS Screen On. Your battery will last all day, every day. Unless you text a lot. Then, good luck.
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Does it matter if I turn off data or it will still drain looking for cell signal?
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In short, yes.
If u turn off data it will help. But you will still have poor signal, so Idk how much it will help. apps and processes that use background data won't be using it, that alone will keep your phone from reconnecting so much, so it will help.
It takes your phone longer to connect on poor signals and your speeds are slower so it takes longer to do the same things. This also keeps your processor running faster for longer times.
Hello all! I have been a silent user of these forums for a while now. I am finally turning to you all for some help because I am unable to determine if the issues with my phone should be treated as related or unrelated.
My phone: Image attached, no outside URLs. In short, Galaxy S2, ATT, 4.0.3, not rooted.
I have had this phone since about March. Ironically, I had a model of the captivate that was subject to the random shut offs. ATT worked with me and since my upgrade was so close, they moved it up a bit. Badaboom this phone. Enough with the stories.
Applications: Some utilities I have on this phone include juice defender, advanced task killer, onavo data manager, eco battery protector. I do admit to the use of applications like instagram, facebook and browsing through some websites, but the effect on my phone is not necessary what I am looking to fix. Also, I use ADW, but I have been a long term user of ADW and find it to be light on my battery usage. Never even shows up in my battery summary. I just feel you should know.
The issue: My phone is being a pain in the rear. I am trying to determine if my overheating and poor battery life are related. When in idle, my phone can drain within about 5 hours. When I first started noticing this, I would make sure wifi and sync were off 'cause I really didn't need it on at work. Still, maybe saved myself 45min of battery life in idle (some screen usage to check time and w/e). Then when I charge, the phone gets so hot I start to worry. I was used to my captivate getting kind of hot, mostly because of the cheat cover, so I've stopped using it and charging with it. Right now, I mostly use a dock to charge my phone overnight, but still, when I take it off its hot as Hades.
Usage: I have noticed a significant difference with juice defender on/off, maybe about a couple hours worth of usage. Usage for me is usually gmail, texting and sometimes yahoo instant messenger. (Yahoo has been pretty light on my battery, never really noticed too much : I have noticed a significant difference with juice defender on/off, maybe about a couple hours worth of usage. Usage for me is usually gmail, texting and sometimes yahoo instant messenger. (Yahoo has been pretty light on my battery, never really noticed too much and that kind of drainage is normal). Heavy usage might include me using my phone as my GPS when driving. I do this while plugged in otherwise it would be off before I exit my hometown. The overheating gets so so so hot that I might unplug it for a bit and turn the AC on. :crying: Also, I use things like instagram, facebook, gizmodo but I make sure to kill those tasks when I am finished using the various utilities I have. I make sure I'm on wifi when I use those and I have them set to only working over wifi with onavo.
Other Issues: Recently, there have been issues with charging. I have had random moments where my phone does not register it is being plugged in until I pull the battery. At first I thought it was my car charger and maybe the fuse on it was a dud but when I got home and tried my dock, it was still nothing. Then I tried USB to my computer and still nothing. After a battery pull, this was fixed. Happened about 2 times over the past 2 months.
.. I don't know what to do to get a balance back. This has been going on for about 2 months now and I can't keep looking for a power source a mere 4 hours into usage.
I am considering looking towards rooting and seeing what customization I can do to manage my phone better and achieve a balance right for me. I am familiar with the process and proficient enough to work through it. Due to my phone feeling too new, I have been avoiding it. I would hate to shell the money out for a new battery, given this phone is less than a year old.
Please please please gurus .... I need your help. I don't know what to do to get back to having my smartphone work for me efficiently.
Well first get rid of the battery savers. In my experience they crashed my brothers phone and don't save battery in the slightest. Just remember to turn WiFi and data off using a toggle. Also download betterbatterystats from the xda forums and cpuspy from play store and let the phone do its thing for a day
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Task killers do nothing. Juice defender used to help back in GB days. No longer needed. Just use the phone normally. Also did u say yer on the stock ICS kernel? I was gonna suggest a factory reset to clear data and cache but if yer on stock ICS kernel don't do that.
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The first thing I would suggest is to get rid of the stock ICS root then custom rom ICS after that get a little app called battery calibration, fully charge the phone and calibrate the battery i have used this app and swear by it as far as juice defender i have used it and never really cared for it it really never did what is said it would.