Hello. Today I bought an Xperia X10 from a SH store. Anyway the phone came in great conditions and at a great price. The boy from there gave me the phone and charger + USB cable. All things good till I start charging it. I should mention that when I got the phone it was at aprox. 60% and after using intensively (like when you just buy a phone) it was, after 5 h, at 22%.
Let's get to the problem: I plug the phone with the charger to socket and let it charge. After 3h it went from 22% to 52% . I mean this is really impossible to understand.
My question is how can I find what is wrong. Now I'm wondering if the charger or the USB cable or the Battery is not original.
On the charger there is written SonyEricsson, so I guess it is original. I'll try tomorrow to search for it's S/N on the net. The Output Voltage is 5V and 700mA, which I saw that is normal for an original charger.
The USB cable looks kind of fishy to me.
The battery seems original.
So what could it be wrong and how can I find it out? Any thoughts, beside what I've asked, about this kind of problem are well appreciated.
Thank you.
That's odd considering the current that was flowing to your battery. Try turning off your phone and charging it to 100%. Maybe It needs some adjusting. Also i suggest rooting your phone, no problems with battery at all with the ROMS that are out
Thank you for your fast response. I'll try to charge it to full when it is powered off to see if time differs.
When do you mean "no battery problems with available ROM's" do you mean no charging problems?
yes i mean that
The only reasons u could have a reduction of current is if heat is an issue or if your phone is in heavy use. Also if the charger is faulty of course. So check the temperature while charging and try diabling wifi and any data u have going on the phone. That should help.
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Thank you for your response. While I left the phone charging there was nothing running at all. Also I didn't notice the phone heating too much.
I went to the guy from who I bought the phone, and he said that he will order an original charger at no cost for me. So I think I'll wait for that one and see how it works.
But out of curiosity: could it also be the cable that is limiting the power? The cable is not original.
UsManyDead said:
Thank you for your response. While I left the phone charging there was nothing running at all. Also I didn't notice the phone heating too much.
I went to the guy from who I bought the phone, and he said that he will order an original charger at no cost for me. So I think I'll wait for that one and see how it works.
But out of curiosity: could it also be the cable that is limiting the power? The cable is not original.
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Yes, a faulty cable can't charge the phone properly.
Wait and see how it goes with the new charger!
Did you plug it in staight after you used it? My phone seems to drain when it is at around 45 degrees even though it doesnt feel hot. Let it cool by turning it off for 10 minutes or so and try again.
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Everything is fine now with the new charger which looks more than original and the USB Cable, also original. (The charge time is ~ 2-3h - empty -> full)
Thank you all for your help.
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hi, my battery was really low than my phone turned off. i went home to charge but no charging sign. tried to charge it for 1 hour nothing happend. did my phone just died? or can i do somthing to get it back to work?
also i drained it 3 times the past 3 days, could i have broken the battery becouse of this?
try plugging the charger in with the battery out, and fit the battery after and see if it starts to charge? maybe leave it connected overnight or try another battery if possible.
lector007 said:
hi, my battery was really low than my phone turned off. i went home to charge but no charging sign. tried to charge it for 1 hour nothing happend. did my phone just died? or can i do somthing to get it back to work?
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I'm not an expert, so double check the information I'm giving you, as it might be wrong.
Have you tried to use a USB jig to revive the phone? You can buy one on eBay for €5. Hopefully it will solve the problem.
Otherwise, I don't think that it should be the case, but it is reported that SSD drives can be completely erased when they suffer a subtle power cut. In this case, there is no damage other than the complete wipe of all information on the memory. As far as I'm concern, the phone's memory is quite similar to SSD and other flash memories, therefore it would be a possibility, although it is not likely.
Should it be the case, it's better to seek Samsung Service Centre's help. Running out of battery should never damage the phone, therefore, if you have warranty it should be covered.
also i noticed that after a few hours of trying to charge it the battery feels really colld. could this mean the battery is dead?
lector007 said:
also i noticed that after a few hours of trying to charge it the battery feels really colld. could this mean the battery is dead?
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normally when you charge a battery it heats up a litle. mine stays really cold
Have you tried another charger, or charginging with the usb lead? Soundlike the charger could be duff.
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Have you tried another charger, or charginging with the usb lead? Soundlike the charger could be duff.
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tried 3 diffirent chargers. and usb as well. no sign of life
hi any chance did u solve your problem?
i am having the same problem my voltage on the battery drops down to 0 so it does not charge or power on when connected to a charger.
i had to shock the battery with 5v dc till i got the voltage upto 3.2v than put back into phone than on charge but it still drains out completely. any help on how u solved your problem?
I love my Mega. It is by far the best phone Ive ever had. But, the problems I have with the power usage and management on the device are a total nightmare.
1) The discharging nightmare:
The battery lasts NOTHING. Basically I get about 5 hours of use.. maximum.. no matter what I do.. and I have slimmed down to the ROM to having that NOTHING active.. I literally am left with active 6 services and I monitor CPU usage that is always near zero with NO apps hogging resources. From what I monitor on the device's battery usage, it's clearly always about 90% from the display! And yes, I dim the screen as much as I can of course, but usually not below 1/2way.. I hate screens too dim. However even just on standby with the screen off I still lose about 5% to 8% of battery an hour. Worse, even with the device Powered OFF, I still lose about 20% of battery a day. The ONLY way I have found out to control battery drain completely, is to take the battery out. That's it. Anyone else with similar symptoms and a fix or, is just that the stock battery totally sucks??? Also, any other off brand batteries are any better?.. (not the fat ones rated at much higher amps but that have an extra bulge.. that I don’t want)..
2) The charging nightmare:
This to me is the worse problem. It is bad enough how quickly this device issues battery, bit not nearly as bad as trying to charge efficiently again. I now have tried 3 different chargers/brands (and cables) to try fix the charging problem that is, it takes HOURS and HOURS to charge the battery. I am talking 5 to 6 hours to get it charged and if the screen is on and Im using the device it actually charges NOTHING at all and still keeps discharging (albeit much slower of course)... the fact is that the charging process is so pathetically slow that is less than real-time which means, with the device connected to power supply, the battery STILL drains if I try use it. This is absurd. However, mysteriously enough I have found ONE way that charges the phone super fast.. using a SONY External Power Pack (model CP-F1L) rated at 2200mAh. This is seems crazy because the power output of an external power pack should be much lower than the stock (and other Samsung) USB chargers.. but, it's what works.. the ONLY thing that works. And I have noticed that when connected to a USB Power charger, the Mega's Red LED light turn on faded.. however, when connected to the SONY External Power Pack, is bright red. Clearly more juice going in.. or something like that. Again, anyone else with similar symptoms and a fix the charging time, or, any good recommendation on a extra strong USB power adapter/charger that will make this thing at least charge faster?
Thanks in advance for the input and advice:silly:
Sounds like something is not letting your phone sleep or the battery is defective. Try putting CPU spy on it and let it set for a while. Then check to see if it is getting into deep sleep or if it is even stuck at a certain frequency.
There is an app on the playstore called Galaxy charging. Try it to see what rate it is charging. Though with the rate your phone discharges, the charger may only being supplying an amount just over the drain rate which is why it takes so long to charge.
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Yes this is not normal, I get five hours screen time on fifteen hours usage.
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Yep, something wrong there. I'm stock and this thing won't quit :good:
I would flash the stock rom back into your phone and see how the battery works then as this not normal as mentioned by other members as I am still on the stock rom but rooted only and I have great battery life.
That is were to start by flashing the stock rom and if no change then battery or maybe a hardware problem.
Did you have good battery life before you starting flashing with the phone or did this occur after the stock rom was removed and custom rom with stuff removed to gain performance?
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Sometime i got 96% bug
Battry is fully charged = 100%
remove charger
Reboot device
Suddenly Battery become = 96%
ps000000 said:
Sometime i got 96% bug
Battry is fully charged = 100%
remove charger
Reboot device
Suddenly Battery become = 96%
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You could try to remove the battery from the phone for about 5 secs and re-install and see it that helps as sometimes if you take the charger off as soon as it is done charging it might not show 100% at times when booting as I leave mine on for a bit longer and it seems to help..even though charge light is green..I leave it longer on.
If your phone is rooted get a app called battery calibrator from the google store as it is free and install it and just before you shut down the phone to charge wipe the battery stats with this app and then shutdown phone and fully charge and then see how the battery works after the battery stats wipe as that can usually help.
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Sounds like something is not letting your phone sleep or the battery is defective. Try putting CPU spy on it and let it set for a while. Then check to see if it is getting into deep sleep or if it is even stuck at a certain frequency.
There is an app on the playstore called Galaxy charging. Try it to see what rate it is charging. Though with the rate your phone discharges, the charger may only being supplying an amount just over the drain rate which is why it takes so long to charge.
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Thanks for the tip. Installed the app you recommend, now I understand better. With the stock Samsung USB charger I get 420 readings. With the other 2 chargers I get 500 and 540. However, with the Sony External Power Pack I get 1900!..no wonder it charges super fast with it! My question now is what's up with all the USB chargers I have? I even tried my old Galaxy Tab 7 charger (strongest rated charger I have) and still only feeds 480. This is all so bizarre. So, where to get a super strong charger for the Mega?
(sorry.. by whatever reason my reply got posted 4 times.. so strange. I try delete the first three but cant)..
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Thanks for the tip. Installed the app you recommend, now I understand better. With the stock Samsung USB charger I get 420 readings. With the other 2 chargers I get 500 and 540. However, with the Sony External Power Pack I get 1900!..no wonder it charges super fast with it! My question now is what's up with all the USB chargers I have? I even tried my old Galaxy Tab 7 charger (strongest rated charger I have) and still only feeds 480. This is all so bizarre. So, where to get a super strong charger for the Mega?
(sorry.. by whatever reason my reply got posted 4 times.. so strange. I try delete the first three but cant)..
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Usually when this happens there is something wrong with the USB cable not necessarily the charger. Is the sony cable a USB type cable or a hard wired one? If it is USB type try using it with the other chargers and see what your results are.
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Mad383Max said:
Usually when this happens there is something wrong with the USB cable not necessarily the charger. Is the sony cable a USB type cable or a hard wired one? If it is USB type try using it with the other chargers and see what your results are.
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Yes indeed I notice the Sony Power Pack cable is short and thick. The Samsung cable is long and thin. I get much higher charging power using the thick short cable. Maybe I need go shop for a proper longer/thicker cable.
VeEuzUKY said:
Yes indeed I notice the Sony Power Pack cable is short and thick. The Samsung cable is long and thin. I get much higher charging power using the thick short cable. Maybe I need go shop for a proper longer/thicker cable.
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I've certainly found the USB cable makes a big difference to the charging speed. I got a couple of 2m cables off Ebay and they're hopelessly slow, but the stock Samsung cable is fast. I just wish it was a bit longer!
I have the same issue
I have the Sprint Mega. Not refurbished and original factory state but I have horrific charge/discharge issues. Right now, my phone just got to 100% charge which I then unplugged the charge cable. Within 5 mins, I went from 100% to 96% and it is losing battery even quicker.
VeEuzUKY: It's been a while but do you still have this phone? Any updates? I should prob invest in a thicker USB cable like you've describe. It has the most charge rate.
I got my mega 6.3 last week. Since then it has said 100% charged... even when charging or dead. So I got a new battery thinking it was the battery but its obviously not and im not sure what it is that could be the problem. Im not sure if its crucial for my phone, if it can be fixed easily and cheaply, or if I need to return my phone to the place I bought it from.
Got my Z2 a few days ago. Charged it with the bundled EP880 + 3rd party magnetic cable until the led went green and thern started it for the first time.
Plugged it in for the the second charge almost two hours ago when at 10% and its now at 32%. 30mins ago Gsam Battery Monitor showed 4h untill fully charged but i just checked it now and all of a sudden it says 8h untill fully charged.
This cant be right?
/#LOUDmouth#
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Got my Z2 a few days ago. Charged it with the bundled EP880 + 3rd party magnetic cable until the led went green and thern started it for the first time.
Plugged it in for the the second charge almost two hours ago when at 10% and its now at 32%. 30mins ago Gsam Battery Monitor showed 4h untill fully charged but i just checked it now and all of a sudden it says 8h untill fully charged.
This cant be right?
/#LOUDmouth#
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This doesn't seem right at all. You should test it using another charger (1-2A).
Jackos said:
This doesn't seem right at all. You should test it using another charger (1-2A).
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Just uninstalled Gsam Battery Monitor and rebooted the phone while still charging. I'm gonna let it charge for a while and see if it speeds up.
I only have access to E800 (850mah) and EP750 (700mah). But is it ok to interrupt/restarting/interrupt etc. the charging? I thought that might harm the battery.
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But is it ok to interrupt/restarting/interrupt etc. the charging? I thought that might harm the battery.
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No worries.
Mystery solved, case closed. Seems that the 3rd party magnetic cable was the culprit.
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Mystery solved, case closed. Seems that the 3rd party magnetic cable was the culprit.
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Glad it worked out
Yes, I never understood how the cables can make such a difference with charging speed, but they do.
I chucked out all my cheap ones for that reason.
naujoks said:
Yes, I never understood how the cables can make such a difference with charging speed, but they do.
I chucked out all my cheap ones for that reason.
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Usually devices have modules that detect "unstable charging current". I don't know if Z2 has one, as I'm quite new to the device itself.
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Mystery solved, case closed. Seems that the 3rd party magnetic cable was the culprit.
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Hmm! Mystery continues, case reopened
After waiting hours and the battery only charged to approx. 70% i changed to the stock micro-usb cable and hey presto, battery charged full. Thats why i thought i solved the mystery.
And then i got a replacement magnetic cable sent to me and the first charge with the "new" cable went normal. Then the second charge same problem as before. From 30% to 70% in 4h and this time i changed to the micro-usb but it didnt help, the slow charge continued. By this time i tried a different micro-usb cable, a different EP880 charger, numerous reboots etc. and finally i got it charging at normal speed again. Because i tried pretty much everything its hard to say what it was that did the trick
Its all really confusing, especially since i havent really read/heard about similar problems. I'm beginning to think its my phone thats faulty. Maybe the magnetic connector or the battery. But i'm not keen on waiting while its being analyzed/repaired
Anyone knows if Sony has a DOA-policy i can claim when heading down to the Telia-shop to claim a instant swap?
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Same problem
#LOUDmouth# said:
Hmm! Mystery continues, case reopened
After waiting hours and the battery only charged to approx. 70% i changed to the stock micro-usb cable and hey presto, battery charged full. Thats why i thought i solved the mystery.
And then i got a replacement magnetic cable sent to me and the first charge with the "new" cable went normal. Then the second charge same problem as before. From 30% to 70% in 4h and this time i changed to the micro-usb but it didnt help, the slow charge continued. By this time i tried a different micro-usb cable, a different EP880 charger, numerous reboots etc. and finally i got it charging at normal speed again. Because i tried pretty much everything its hard to say what it was that did the trick
Its all really confusing, especially since i havent really read/heard about similar problems. I'm beginning to think its my phone thats faulty. Maybe the magnetic connector or the battery. But i'm not keen on waiting while its being analyzed/repaired
Anyone knows if Sony has a DOA-policy i can claim when heading down to the Telia-shop to claim a instant swap?
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... did you get anywhere with this? I've had a problem with my mag charge cables too... I've used various combinations of chargers and cables and isolated the magnetic charge cable as the problem, just wondered if LOUDmouth or anyone else has a solution or knows of a good branded cable that works? Last thing I want to do is keep opening the micro-USB port to charge it - I suspect that will lead to a watery grave for the Z2!!
Cheers, Moose
hi.
i got the htc for about 3-4 months. at beggining it was perfect. good battery and charging FAST AS FCK , but now, it charges SO slow.
im using the original htc cable to charge it, the cable that came with the phone. and plugged in to the wall plug.
if im using the phone while its charging its just not charging and even the battery still goes down WHEN ITS CONNECTED. so for it to charge i need for like 3-4 hours not the touch the phone at ALL.
at the beggining when i got the phone i could be gaming on the phone and still battery whould go up. now even if everything is closed, ONLY whatsapp is open and im on whatsapp the battery keep going down.
all my apps are closed and nothing running.
any solutions for it or what should i do?
guyeee said:
hi.
i got the htc for about 3-4 months. at beggining it was perfect. good battery and charging FAST AS FCK , but now, it charges SO slow.
im using the original htc cable to charge it, the cable that came with the phone. and plugged in to the wall plug.
if im using the phone while its charging its just not charging and even the battery still goes down WHEN ITS CONNECTED. so for it to charge i need for like 3-4 hours not the touch the phone at ALL.
at the beggining when i got the phone i could be gaming on the phone and still battery whould go up. now even if everything is closed, ONLY whatsapp is open and im on whatsapp the battery keep going down.
all my apps are closed and nothing running.
any solutions for it or what should i do?
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Well the logical step here is taking out variables. Since the phone is the more costly, i would suggest replacing the charger with another that does at least two amps and see if it is the problem. They can go bad since they are being put under a good load by the phone. If the charger is not the problem then the battery may be bad. Unfortunately they are not replaceable by the average user. The phone would need to be sent in for repair or replaced.
For some reason my phone don't always use fast charging when I plug it in. Sometimes it will just say cable charging and takes couple hours to charge and some times it will say fast charge... Its really random.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
Using the 2.0 amp charger included will fast charge your phone.
orangeswim said:
Using the 2.0 amp charger included will fast charge your phone.
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That's what I am using but still, it doesn't always fast charge and that's why I asked the question
Hmm....mine goes to fast charge as soon as I plug it in. Get gsam battery monitor, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en
It has detailed charts on charging info. Maybe you can track down if there is a pattern.
odobo said:
For some reason my phone don't always use fast charging when I plug it in. Sometimes it will just say cable charging and takes couple hours to charge and some times it will say fast charge... Its really random.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
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check the battery setting! and try a different cable!
I know one issue was that using the included charger, if you dont make sure the cable is plugged all the way into it it will not fast charge. It will still do the cable charge, but if you plug it in just a bit harder it will switch to fast charge. Might check that.
odobo said:
For some reason my phone don't always use fast charging when I plug it in. Sometimes it will just say cable charging and takes couple hours to charge and some times it will say fast charge... Its really random.
Does anyone know why this is happening?
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User manual says:
Increasing the charging speed
To increase the charging speed, turn the device or its screen off when you charge the battery.
• While charging the battery when the device is turned off, the icon appears on the
screen.
• You cannot use the fast charging feature when the screen is turned on. Turn off the
screen to increase the charging speed.
• You can check the remaining charge time on the screen. The actual remaining time
may vary depending on the charging conditions.
• You cannot use the built-in fast charging feature when you charge the battery
using a standard battery charger.
• If the device heats up or the ambient air temperature rises, the charging speed may
decrease automatically. This is a normal operating condition to prevent damage to
the device.
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So maybe it's too hot in your area?
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Hmm....mine goes to fast charge as soon as I plug it in. Get gsam battery monitor, https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.gsamlabs.bbm&hl=en
It has detailed charts on charging info. Maybe you can track down if there is a pattern.
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yea I installed that too... but not sure if the info can help me figure out whats triggering the fast charging or not
If it's not related to what turt mentioned about temperature., I would consider getting it exchanged while it's early.
I got mine from best buy and they have 14 day exchange/return.
My battery temp has been max 94F.
kamranhaghighi said:
check the battery setting! and try a different cable!
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what battery setting are you suggesting? and I can get the fast charging with the same cable... just not reliably thats why I am not sure if there is some conditions the phone needs to be in before it will happen
schollianmj said:
I know one issue was that using the included charger, if you dont make sure the cable is plugged all the way into it it will not fast charge. It will still do the cable charge, but if you plug it in just a bit harder it will switch to fast charge. Might check that.
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that could be it... and the other thing I found is if I plug it in with the screen off it seems to do the trick
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User manual says:
So maybe it's too hot in your area?
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no... I dont think its temp related. Last night after 3 tries I can finally get it to fast charge and the trick I think is to get the screen off before plugging in the cable.
I wonder if the length of the USB connector has something to do with it too cause I bought a extra QC2.0 charger and I can get it to fast charge reliably everytime, but the QC 2.0 car charger doesnt work for me at all with the cable that came with it. I might need to try a different cable and see
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what battery setting are you suggesting? and I can get the fast charging with the same cable... just not reliably thats why I am not sure if there is some conditions the phone needs to be in before it will happen
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if its just unreliable forget about the setting! so you have tried other cables?! thats all i can think off! im not a pro just thought it might be that!
schollianmj said:
I know one issue was that using the included charger, if you dont make sure the cable is plugged all the way into it it will not fast charge. It will still do the cable charge, but if you plug it in just a bit harder it will switch to fast charge. Might check that.
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THANK YOU! Top reply I was trying to work out why it wouldn't fast charge, even when using the supplied charger and cable, however I hadn't realised that I needed to push the USB A end (the bit the plugs into the charger) that extra bit - Fast Charge now working and return avoided!
my phone just started the same issue. till last night it was working perfectly fine but all of a sudden when I put my phone to charging this morning, it says cable charging instead of fast charging, I've tried different chargers as well but still no luck. I thought maybe it was a software issue so I should try a factory reset. In order to make backup, I tried connecting to my laptop but windows refused to detect my device and it says your device is not working properly. Anyhow I did a factory reset (loosing all my data) still it shows cable charging. Any idea what this problem is about?
Try plugging in while ur screen is off. It did the trick to mine
i was just about to post about this same problem, til i looked over, and my phone switched from "charging" to "fast charging" once my phone was over 15% in battery life. So thats what i think it is..... If you plug in with less than 15% battery life, it is not powerful enough to fast charge. Once it hits 15% it will be powerful enough to "fast charge". does this seem like a reasonable explanation, cuz thats all i got LOL
I've had the same issue on and off with my Edge+ and have realized there are 2 things that will help start fast charging. First is to close all open apps and notifications, second turn your screen off and wait a few seconds and plug in. Hopefully this will help