I think i want to switch over to the 3d but I dont know if it would be worth it to me. Do you guys use the 3d that often? Do you miss the Kickstand from your old Evo4g?
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I think i want to switch over to the 3d but I dont know if it would be worth it to me. Do you guys use the 3d that often? Do you miss the Kickstand from your old Evo4g?
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While I have had almost no problems from the OS and underlying hardware there is a lot of software that is not the OS that I have had tons of problems with...like the camera. Also the 3G reception completely and totally blows comparatively. Especially if you are in a fringe area...or even close, apparently.
The 3D was a feature that I ridiculed from the first mention of it months ago...but it ends up that I miss that feature the most.
Miss it? Yeah, that radio sucked so bad that I just couldn't justify keeping that phone. Miss a couple business calls in a workday and suddenly everything else is far less easy to rationalize.
No business calls to worry about? That might have changed everything for me.
Here's to hoping the bootloader gets unlocked and the radio gets an update to fix this. Though from my experience the radio will get tons of updates, none of which have any apparent affect on signal strength.
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While I have had almost no problems from the OS and underlying hardware there is a lot of software that is not the OS that I have had tons of problems with...like the camera. Also the 3G reception completely and totally blows comparatively. Especially if you are in a fringe area...or even close, apparently.
The 3D was a feature that I ridiculed from the first mention of it months ago...but it ends up that I miss that feature the most.
Miss it? Yeah, that radio sucked so bad that I just couldn't justify keeping that phone. Miss a couple business calls in a workday and suddenly everything else is far less easy to rationalize.
No business calls to worry about? That might have changed everything for me.
Here's to hoping the bootloader gets unlocked and the radio gets an update to fix this. Though from my experience the radio will get tons of updates, none of which have any apparent affect on signal strength.
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To be fair all of the radios aren't bad. I've had no problems with mine. As a matter of fact i sold my original EVO to my roommate and we were sitting in his room. He asked me if i could get reception cause his kept going in and out. I had full bars
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To be fair all of the radios aren't bad. I've had no problems with mine. As a matter of fact i sold my original EVO to my roommate and we were sitting in his room. He asked me if i could get reception cause his kept going in and out. I had full bars
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I could have swapped through a few phones... but I like the chicks that run that radio shack and wanna stay on their cool side...I even got my gift card back in cash. they made sure my upgrade got reversed and everything....and they have limited stock of everything and opening up every box and breaking open the seal on every phone (which is impossible to put back together) would probably have complicated their lives.
...and I also suspect it is a regional thing based on roaming agreements and protocols... My phone was perfect and I had been in all-bars situations, and most of the time even though the meter was way low I had no problems--most of the time. I can't risk missing work calls, which never ever ever happened with my 4G....and I can't even imagine an E4G getting no signal and my E3D getting full bars even being possible.
I do hope this all gets sorted out cuz I'm wary about getting a Samsung anything. I'm a huge fan of HTC hardware...and I have no reservations about marching back into that same Radioshack and buying the same exact phone over again.
As you may know the Evo 3D may have an updated PRL than that of the original Evo so it is very possible to have much improved connection to the cell towers with the newer model. Any PRL changes?
i loved my OG evo, which my wife now has. rooted and running MikG 2.2.
i am learning to love the E3D. my take on the upgrade:
1. Battery: E3D blows the rooted OG out of the water. surfing the internet for 20min on my OG evo would drop 20% battery easy (yeah, I could sleep for hours without losing 1%, but use the thing and it was like a fat chick eating twinkies). The E3D stock I can surf the web, play games, 30min goes by and I've lose a couple to a few percent. outstanding. used to keep plugged in when I woke up in the morning checking my email and websites in bed, now I just unplug the dam thing, and don't even bother plugging it back in when I go to shower. Also, no 10% drop off the charger when it's been on too long. looks like the E3D goes up and down between 95% and 100% while on the charger, actually showing you the actual percent (unlike the OG evo, which showed 100% all the time when it could be anywhere between 88 and 100% in reality). I no longer think about wasting battery or when I can charge, it's quite freeing.
2. Speed: E3D is much faster, yes; some say instantaneous, but I don't think it is that fast. you'll definitely notice it using it. even the internet seems faster loading web pages and downloading apps from the market (I know, it's just processing stuff faster, it's the same internet lolz).
3. Sense 3.0: I don't note a huge advantage over the OG evo running MikG with sense 2.1 and elements of sense 3.0, to be honest. definitely flipping screens is more responsive, but speed aside, I was happy with sense on MikG.
4. screen resolution: much prettier at qHD. I have one of the screens that whites show up a little cream, and can especially notice it beside my OG evo, but oh well.
5. camera button: a waste. I was hoping that it would change the picture taking experience, but the half press to focus takes FOREVER. much faster to touch the screen to focus (I turn autofocus off, and just touch the screen for my focal point). pressing hardware button fully is to capture takes exactly the same amount of time to capture as pressing the screen button, but causes a touch of shake. I end up just being happier touching the screen than using the button. hoping there is a camera update (read: dev solution) that can give faster focus with a half press of the hardware camera button, otherwise I'll just be pimping it out using a third party app to open messaging or something (better yet, maybe I'll use it to open the camera).
6. 3D: i agree with daneurysm, I ridiculed 3D as well before release, but it actually turns out to be pretty cool. love taking 3D pics. it will be the rage of the future, guaranteed, and we have it first.
7. radios: I have had none of the radio issues (wifi signal drop, poor signal reception). I have had my 3G not want to turn off or on, but toggling airplane mode fixes it for me usually. I don't have wimax in my area so can't speak to that. my 3G was initially very slow, but ran the proxy hacks and it seems better; I don't use 3G enough to really say much more (almost always covered by wifi).
8. voice call quality: when I first got the E3D, first thing I did was make a phone call to my wife who I had just been talking to from the exact same spot on my OG evo. she called it a night and day difference, with the E3D sounding very muffled. I found myself raising my voice just so she could make out what I was saying. I have since run the EVRC-B hack, I think my voice call quality is probably comparable to the OG Evo now. A little disappointing considering it is supposed to have a noise cancelling mic, but what can you do.
9. Camera: 3D pics aside, just roughly, I think pics are at least as good as my OG evo in good lighting. the OG evo took great pics in great light, it was mid and low light where it sucked. the E3D, I feel, takes much better 2D pics in low light. so a win for the E3D in my book on all fronts, plus you have 3D pics. I don't care about 1080p video recording, ::shrug::. the E3D vs OG evo camera argument will rage on, just my 0.02.
other small things: my phone is HW 002, and has great build quality. no light leak, no dead/stuck pixels, no light holes at the bottom. the build quality is definitely better than my OG evo. the power button is much easier to press (find myself struggling to turn on my OG evo now, lol), and I have not had problems turning it on inadvertenly as some have. I do press the camera button accidentally all the time, but it does nothing if the camera app is not open. occasionally if I open the camera app with the 2D/3D selector already in the 3D position, it will actually be in 2D mode, but a quick resetting the switch and it is good to go. it sits nicer in the hand in one-handed portrait mode, but the OG Evo sat better in two handed portrait (for sure) and landscape (closer to a draw here). definitely easier typing in landscape in with the OG Evo due to the difference in screen dimensions, but i'll get used to it; I type mostly two-handed portrait anyways, which I am also still getting used to (I was much faster on the OG Evo, but it's just a matter of getting used to the new narrower screen width in portrait). I never really used the kickstand on my OG Evo, so I don't miss it. External speaker was definitely louder on the rooted OG Evo, but there were all sorts of volume hacks on most ROMs; probably the stock speaker volume was better on the OG. Has not been an issue for me, but I notice myself having to make sure the speaker is facing me/up when using speakerphone with volume all the way up.
My personal take home after a week of use: outstanding battery, better camera, faster processor; it's a win. You'll be pleasantly surprised by the 3D pics/vids, you'll wonder why they put the camera button on there, and it'll take a little to get used to typing fast again.
Ultimately, you won't regret upgrading from the OG EVO.
tatnai thank you very much for taking the time to write out that very informative post. I found it very useful myself so thank you.
I now am waiting for this handset to be lauched in the UK. The date was first rumoured to be the 11th of July, now rumoured to be the 6th August. I am waiting very impatiently for this but I know the wait will be worth it.
Great review. Sums it up for me exactly, except for the kickstand. I used it quite a bit.
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Droid Charge or Thunderbolt??? Which should I get I'm torn between the 2. I don't care about software support or the UI.
My main concerns are camera, battery life, screen, and hackability(custom ROMs)
So main questions being how is the camera in low light situations, and video quality?
How long does the battery actually last for you? Is it comparable to any other smartphone or do I need to get used to carrying a charger with me.
How does the screen compare with others? I have a Fascinate now and the Super AMOLED has spoiled me.
Finally how easy is it to load custom roms on the device. Is it a pain, or is it simple. The Fascinate was very simple.
I don't care about Sense vs Touchwiz as launcher pro or vanilla launcher will be on the device.
Well... no one owns the Charge yet but I can give you my experience with the Thunberbolt.
- The camera sucks but then again I think every cell phone camera sucks. I'm comparing it to my D700 + Zeiss 50/1.4 which I usually have on me anyway. Any cell phone camera in low light is going to be awful unless you use the flash. Even then, it still sucks. Video quality is fine though.
- I'm using the extended battery. I've been at work since 9:30 and it's now 5:00. My battery is at 68% and I've been sending the occasional text and going on Tweetdeck and a few websites. I do have 4G enabled all the time though. I keep my charger with me all the time regardless though.
- The screen is fine. The glass is Gorilla Glass. Some people say that it's not GG and it scratches easily but I don't know what they're smoking. It's the same quality as my Droid X. I find the colors to be way oversaturated but I'm comparing it to a $700 calibrated PC monitor.
- Rooting is easy. There aren't any true one-click methods yet but hopefully in a month or so there will be. Flashing ROMs is as easy as any other device.
I was in a VZW store in San Antonio, Tx this afternoon, and got a little hands on time w/ both phones...
Charge has a GREAT screen and is "light" in the hand next to the TB. I downloaded Speedtest.net from the Market, set both phones to the same server, checked the signal strength (both the same) and ran the test.
The Charge never got above the 10 Mbps mark at any point. The TB never dipped below 17 Mbps. I checked it multiple times while I was in the store for 1.5 hours!
Like the TB, the Charge's battery seemed a little anemic for the demands of the device.
I walked out the TB, not just because the Charge wasn't available, but because I liked the TB experience better.
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I can't speak for the charge... My tbolt will video fireworks at night and take stills pretty well. Megapixels mean everything in pictures. I love my tbolt and hardly ever use the camera. To each their own though...
Here is an article comparing the two. My personal choice would definitely be the Thunderbolt although I've never actually used the charge.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/04/28/htc-thunderbolt-vs-samsung-droid-charge-battle-of-the-specs/
Well, do you really need to get a new phone now? If it were me.. I'd wait for the Galaxy S2. That phone is looking it could do some serious damage to all others.
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I can't speak for the charge... My tbolt will video fireworks at night and take stills pretty well. Megapixels mean everything in pictures. I love my tbolt and hardly ever use the camera. To each their own though...
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Megapixels actually mean jack ****.
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I agree htc will sell phones that have 8mp cams and the quality sucks its the software and lens I think
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camera is mediocre. It gets the job done, but as posted earlier, is hardly a photographer's go-to
all 4G phones will have horrible battery life until they figure something out down the line, but for now at least the thunderbolt is capable of running some of the nice LV kernels to save a little battery and downclock etc.
the screen isn't too bad, go play with one at a VZW store and see that for yourself
at the end of the day I got the TB because HTC released the kernel source (actually bought it the next morning) and with the kernels on my D1 I could keep up with the big boys for a lot longer so I hope for the same on the TB. And since I got it, sense has actually grown on me quite a bit, I actually prefer it to the vanilla UI
The phones are almost equal. The Charge has a better screen and a bigger battery and I can't speak to this device but the camera on my Fascinate was the best phone camera I have seen on a phone(who knows if this is comparable.) However consider how long it has taken samsung to roll out updates and compare the development community for the Fascinate to the DInc. The Thunderbolt has more ram, is slightly cheaper, and will have fantastic dev support + updates will come quicker.
On top of that if you stay stock, Sense destroys TouchWiz. et the Thunderbolt or wait for a device that is more different (Play, Bionic etc.)
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True that, the sensor makes much more difference.
Compared to my DX there are a few good things and a few bad. The TB screen sucks. It's been a real pain for me browsing on the TB and that's the main thing I use, its very hard to select a link in the browser to open in new window, it wants to select text instead and I have to zoom all the way in, open page, then zoom out. When I open a page it automatically rooms in and I have to zoom out to see the page. The stock Rom ran super smooth compared to the X but the roms don't seem to help anything, on the X roms would make huge differences in performance (ive only tried a few roms and kernels so far on the TB though). The volume button sucks on the TB also, its so sensitive that you will accidentally change the volume all throughout the day which is extremely annoying.
It seems to have one of the fastest connections on 3g that I've seen, I can't wait for 4g (suppose to be this summer here). The unlocked bootloader has lots of potential, not sure if the charge is unlocked or will be unlocked.
The Thunderbolt is great, but I can't wait to get a stable AOSP rom on it and I hate the screen lighting. Also, battery isn't as big of an issue as everyone says it is. Just turn 4g on when you really need it.
How is everyone liking their new phone? Is it everything its cracked up to be? Also how is the 3d function? I'm very curious. I get mine from best buy Friday and I can't wait....I'm jealous of all you early birds
the 3d Photo Feature is actually quite decent, much better than the Nintendo 3ds by far.
4g connects extremely fast.
Mind you the screen isn't wider but it is slightly loner than the EVO, the phone fits in the palm of your hand with ease.
camera button and 2d/3d switch is a great feature.
Very solid build, the battery door covers the entire rear of the phone.
Music beta on 4g connects and streams very nicely, haven't tried 3g yet because im still uploading my music to it's servers.
Overall im very impressed SO far
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the 3d Photo Feature is actually quite decent, much better than the Nintendo 3ds by far.
4g connects extremely fast.
Mind you the screen isn't wider but it is slightly loner than the EVO, the phone fits in the palm of your hand with ease.
camera button and 2d/3d switch is a great feature.
Very solid build, the battery door covers the entire rear of the phone.
Music beta on 4g connects and streams very nicely, haven't tried 3g yet because im still uploading my music to it's servers.
Overall im very impressed SO far
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i assume this is all while pluged in? i know this is to soon to ask but battery?
actually battery life from what i have seen is actually really good, i turned it on at about 40-50% i didnt check how much it was charged it is charging now, my friends at sprin has been off the charger for like 6hrs and he is at 70%.
but as we all know each user experience is different
i love sense 3.0...its AMAZING. i feel in control of EVERYTHING!
*Cries*
How did so many people get it early! gahhhh
...friday can't come soon enough!
UPS here delivers like at 8:30 at night so while delivery is today for me, it's pretty much tomorrow anyway....lol fail.
I wish I could tell you how it is!
I decided to stick with my local and trusted Sprint store figuring a day or 2 won't hurt...it hurts...
I'm glad to see its going well for those of you who got the jump on us though. Keep us posted on early impressions...
You wanna know how sad I really am lol? Since I have to wait until Friday to get my phone, I went to bb to buy an evo 3d case to feel closer, but they wouldn't sell me 1 lol
I came from a launch date EVO 4G. I now have the younger, hotter faster sister.
3D is way better than I expected. Make sure you compose so foreground, subject and background elements are in the frame. My eyes have no problem adjusting, but of course, YMMV.
Fast, fast fast. Even sense. Which I will still dump for ADW launcher ex. Just because it fits my workflow.
Annoying that the charge port is on the side now instead of the bottom. Looks like it was a design compromise to get a larger battery on the bottom half of the phone.
Any evaluation of battery life can only be taken after at least a week of use.
Battery cover seems harder to remove because of the camera shutter button. Someone has already mentioned it.
Sprint just made me stay with them until Verizon gets an equivalent.
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You wanna know how sad I really am lol? Since I have to wait until Friday to get my phone, I went to bb to buy an evo 3d case to feel closer, but they wouldn't sell me 1 lol
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Sadly, I had the same experience. I should have ordered from Sprint but thought: HEY, I will have a couple of days to decide if I really want this phone. I should know better.
+1 Sweet little phone here
Ordered yesterday (Tues) a.m., Sprint free shipping next day and got it this morning.
Been playing non-stop for the past 4 hours. I honestly say I like the E3D "in general" better than my E4G.
In terms of physical attributes, the narrower frame has a better grip on hand, even it's a bit longer than the 4G. Voice quality is at least on par with the 4G (As I have custom ROM on the 4G, it is louder anyhow). Connection for BT, Wifi and 4G are faster to established.
The QhD screen takes a bit to get use to (Even in 2D mode). I had the same concern as the Nexus 4G came out as they seem a bit yellowish tint than the regular LCD screen. However browsing the net, watching movies and games it is more crisp on the eye.
The only gripe I have is the Micro usb port being on the right side, instead of the bottom. And of course, I have to re-train my hand to hold the phone as everytime the camera lens get smudge with finger prints...
Overall, I'll give it 9.5/10 rating. JMHO.
Well this is the thread I was looking for..so far so good then..ill take a 9.5 out of 10th..I think the charger on the side sucks as well especially if your using the kickstand case and viewing something..thanks for.the input guys
3D is better than I thought, after all the bad reviews. When installing Google earth, a 3D buildings layer is now available, but it isn't real 3D, just rendered like the PC version.
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Ordered yesterday (Tues) a.m., Sprint free shipping next day and got it this morning.
Been playing non-stop for the past 4 hours. I honestly say I like the E3D "in general" better than my E4G.
In terms of physical attributes, the narrower frame has a better grip on hand, even it's a bit longer than the 4G. Voice quality is at least on par with the 4G (As I have custom ROM on the 4G, it is louder anyhow). Connection for BT, Wifi and 4G are faster to established.
The QhD screen takes a bit to get use to (Even in 2D mode). I had the same concern as the Nexus 4G came out as they seem a bit yellowish tint than the regular LCD screen. However browsing the net, watching movies and games it is more crisp on the eye.
The only gripe I have is the Micro usb port being on the right side, instead of the bottom. And of course, I have to re-train my hand to hold the phone as everytime the camera lens get smudge with finger prints...
Overall, I'll give it 9.5/10 rating. JMHO.
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9.5!?!?!?! 9.5?!?!?!! From all the backlash of the people in the Evo 3D section on the negative reviews, I would think this phone would be a 10!!! FAILBOAT ACTIVATE!!!
Man I have a tough decision, I got this ns4g in my hand and I got the evo 3d in preorder.... I don't know if I should pull the trigger. The only thing that is keeping me from going to 3d heaven is the bootloader issue lol.
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Come on now you know a hack is coming. If guys can make my Nook Color run like unstoppable beast I can imagine what they can do with this beast. It got ranked as number 1 dual core in gpu and CPU category tegra 2 being the worst out of the 4 chips.
When I first witness the 3D, DAMN! FOR A MIN MY RIGHT EYE WAS HURTING ME! But I got use to it...
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When I first witness the 3D, DAMN! FOR A MIN MY RIGHT EYE WAS HURTING ME! But I got use to it...
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yeah im still adjusting my eyes but when i do. im completely blown away especially with some of the youtube 3d videos. as far as liking it? I LOVE it.
Even coming from a Evo, I can still tell a difference. So far the battery life is perfect for the way I use it. like everyone else, im frustrated with the port on the side I keep wanting to plug it into the bottom. in short Im happy with my purchase and will be saying bye bye to the evo today.
I like some feedback by former Epic owner with their experiences and comparison with the Evo3d vs the Epic. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and getting the Evo3d today. I'm looking for honest feedback by former epic owners only and not fanboys.
I would also like to know former Epic owner opinions. I spent some time at the Sprint store, but I couldn't make up my mind. One thing I noticed was that the Epic's camera seemed better than the 2D camera on the EVO 3D.
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I would also like to know former Epic owner opinions. I spent some time at the Sprint store, but I couldn't make up my mind. One thing I noticed was that the Epic's camera seemed better than the 2D camera on the EVO 3D.
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I thing Samsung has on HTC is there camera, but I have been able to get some great pics 2d pics with the EVO's camera. With good light, it produces some great color.
I had the Evo running Fresh and Myn's for the longest time. Switched to the Epic just out of boredom. I loved it. I ran ACS SyndicatROM 1.1.0 - 1.1.1...
I made the switch for the faster processor. Ultimately hoping in the end... we could get a clean ROM and it being faster. I miss the keyboard a little. But I have my Epic sitting here chilling. I can go into more detail later... I have to go to work.
I'll bite. Sense 3.0 is amazing. My last experience with Sense was on the Hero and it sucked so I went with vanilla on the Moment. There is less lag with 3D vs the Epic. Good test is opening the application menu waiting for the icons to load. It's like less than a second on the 3D. You'll miss the camera but this is not horrible and 3D is pretty damn neat. The Epic screen does have that "wow" factor to it with blacks and color but after using the qHD screen and its level of detail you won't go back. 3D movie and YouTube watching is amazing. The well produced ones will actually pop out of the screen. The key to viewing is holding the phone at the right spot for your eyes. About 50% better battery life. No joke. The onscreen keyboard rocks. I hate swype's. HTC'S plus having a swype ability makes having a physical keyboard a mute point. The phone is also really solid. Not flimsy and flexible like the Epic. 4G takes a longer time to initialize. The Epic loads it a lot faster but the 3D's is a lot more consistent. ALSO, HTC'S power saver doesn't cripple your phone at low battery like the Epic. You can run it into the ground if you want.
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Well, so far I still have both until we get the within. After that I'm dumping the epic. The 3vo has been a really nice upgrade from the og evo in terms of speed. I just like the way sense incorporates all of the social apps in itself.
In terms of the epic versus 3vo in speed I would have to say that I can't really "feel"a huge jump, but that's probably mostly cause of sense being a huge chunky glob of software that has to be pushed. I'm sure if it were running on the epic it'd probably get bogged down cause the lack of ram.
The one thing you'll still miss is your bright screen and louder speaker. So far those are the only two real world things that are worth a regret if I left the epic entirely. I wouldn't even consider the keyboard a loss since I don't use it, but you might. I find the camera in 2d mode to still struggle in low light compared to the epic which doesn't struggle as bad.
There is still a lot of optimization to be done for alot if apps to run correctly to their full potential as well. Only time will really tell as dual core phones trickle out.
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I would never look back. Sold my Epic, couldn't be happier
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I just recently came to Sprint. Wife got an OG Evo, I got an NS4G. The NS4G's broken radio pissed me off and I took it back, got an Epic instead. I really liked the hardware on the Epic compared to my wife's Evo. The screen in particular, Super AMOLED is the bees knees. The one thing that I really hated though was the lackluster development community. Coming from a G1 and an HD2, I've always had a plethora of choices when it came to choosing a rom. Not the case with the Epic. I was jealous of my wife's Evo in that regard.
Originally, I was going to hold off for a SG2, mostly for the screen... but the more I thought about it, the more likely it seemed that the Evo was going to have more dev support, and ultimately went with that. I was reluctant to give up my beautiful screen, but I did.
A few days in now, and I can't put this damn phone down. I don't like the size of the 4.3 inch screen on the OG Evo, but the 16:9 screen on this is just perfect. It gives me plenty of real estate without the phone being as wide as my pocket. It's the perfectly sized screen for a phone, and I love it.
Sense 3 is neat. A little bloated, but there's a lot of cool **** in there. I look forward to devs picking it apart.
Other than that, the phone is fast as hell. The hardware is solid. The 3D is a little gimmicky, but it's still fun. The 2D camera is disappointing, that will be a downgrade from your Epic. I'm a photographer though, and usually have a plethora of camera's on hand when I'll need them. A cell phone camera, for me, is to catch spur the moment things. It would never be used as a camera in a scenario where I knew I'd need one before hand.
All in all, after being really leery to give up my phone, I'm really glad I did. This phone is great. Get it, you'll be glad you did.
keep ur epic until something better comes out..Epic camera is better..speaker is 10 times louder for streaming music and mp3 files..Epic starts much faster as well..I am switching back 2 my epic sometime next week...HTC 3d speaker is so damn low its horrible and embarrassing..keep ur epic
The epic speaker is MUCH louder, but the battery on the stock 3d is light years better than an epic and I was running SRF with Genocide kernel. My biggest gripe from making the jump is that the data speeds on both 3 and 4G are slower on the 3d. But for the faster day to day use, plus Sense, which IMHO is better than touchwiz, I think its a worthy upgrade especially considering that root is coming shortly and the optimized tons are gonna make this a beast
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The epic is a GREAT phone. I loved that phone. Sometimes i get homesick for the loud speaker and play with my wifes epic. There is no comparison between those two phones. the 3d has twice everything the epic has...memory, processor, bigger battery. the extra 50 for the 3d is money well spent. i am glad i got the 3d, don't regret it.
I had the Epic and in a phone shuffle gave it to my wife and I got the Evo 3D.
I think both phones have their ups and downs. The Epic has a beautiful screen and, if you turn it down the brightness, battery life is greatly increased. I also really miss the keyboard when getting into a "texting conversation" - for 1-2 texts the Swype keyboard is fine, but for hardcore texting, a real keyboard is better.
The phones weigh about the same to me (don't know actual weights) so that isn't an issue.
The capacitive keys on the Epic are fairly unresponsive and often require a few taps to register (the home, back, menu, search keys). That is an issue I have not seen on the E3D.
The Evo is noticeably faster yet the speed difference is not so remarkable that I would just throw away the Epic like yesterdays garbage.
I haven't compared an identical picture side by side from the cameras, but the E3D camera (2D mode) seems comparable.
The biggest difference is in the screens. AMOLED (Epic) is truly a beautiful piece of technology, but the E3D screen looks "sharper" and I would guess it has higher resolution and pixel density...again, don't know the actual numbers. But it is a visible difference.
One of the only other things that bothered me about the Epic was the power switch and USB port. They were both in bad locations and they should have swapped locations.
If given a choice I would probably go with the Evo 3D for the hardware bump and I actually like the 3D. It takes getting used to...kind of like those pictures you have to look at for a long time and a 3D image pops out...you have to almost "stare through" the picture to see the picture, but now I see 3D on it with no problem. Took a few hours of playing and looking to get used to it.
AMOLED screen was bright and nice at the beginning but with time, it got harder to read text on the screen. I don't miss it at all and I'll never switch back. Obviously, the speaker and camera are better on the epic. The 3d aspect of the phone is definitely not a gimmick. Sense is buttery smooth and well worth the switch alone.
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Epic has very slow development from sprint and Samsung. I used to own EVO then epic and now back to EVO 3d.
PS. Never going back to Samsung again.
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shook187 said:
I like some feedback by former Epic owner with their experiences and comparison with the Evo3d vs the Epic. I'm thinking of pulling the trigger and getting the Evo3d today. I'm looking for honest feedback by former epic owners only and not fanboys.
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I'm from the Epic. I honestly miss Touchwiz and i can't stand sense. i do like the music widget on the lockscreen, but to use to widget, you have to be using sense launcher. I also miss flashing and theming stuff. Hopefully evo gets s-off soon, kinda turns me off all the way with HTC even thinking about locking it up. Tbh, as soon as sgs 2 comes for Sprint, im ebaying the 3vO for it.
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Ok boys, thanks for the great feedbacks. Well today I ended up getting the EVO3d. So far I only had it for a few hours and I already miss my epic speakers, screen and keyboard. But overall I'm very excited about my new toy.
Any updated thoughts from those of you who have switched?
This is not to start a flame war, I was really looking forward to my evo 3d when it was coming out but now I'm leaning to the SG2. This is to list grievances of my new evo 3d that I believe make it sub-par.
- Very poor 4g service, I live about 1 - 1.5 miles away from a Clear tower and I get 0 bars of when the 4g wifi symbol is on, my 4g speeds are around 2.5 Mbps, thats impressive 3g speed but for 4g, come on. When I have plenty of bars the most I can get is 5-6 Mbps....
- Super light leakage, along with never dimming capacitive buttons - I have a huge lip of light leakage from the capacitive buttons that bother the hell out of me, I can see it in daylight and the buttons never turn off even when I'm watching a movie or netflix
- I really was looking forward to the 3d, but honestly, I don't care about it at all haha.
- Very thick phone, feels like a brick imo
I'll probably take it back and wait for the Galaxy S II, and if I don't like that, hell I'll wait for the new Nexus phone, do any of these things I've listed bother you?
This thread bothers me
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Xencer said:
This is not to start a flame war, I was really looking forward to my evo 3d when it was coming out but now I'm leaning to the SG2. This is to list grievances of my new evo 3d that I believe make it sub-par.
- Very poor 4g service, I live about 1 - 1.5 miles away from a Clear tower and I get 0 bars of when the 4g wifi symbol is on, my 4g speeds are around 2.5 Mbps, thats impressive 3g speed but for 4g, come on. When I have plenty of bars the most I can get is 5-6 Mbps....
- Super light leakage, along with never dimming capacitive buttons - I have a huge lip of light leakage from the capacitive buttons that bother the hell out of me, I can see it in daylight and the buttons never turn off even when I'm watching a movie or netflix
- I really was looking forward to the 3d, but honestly, I don't care about it at all haha.
- Very thick phone, feels like a brick imo
I'll probably take it back and wait for the Galaxy S II, and if I don't like that, hell I'll wait for the new Nexus phone, do any of these things I've listed bother you?
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1: 4G is very very spotty everywhere. That's a sprint thing, not necessarily an Evo 3D problem.
2: Light leakage... I don't really care, i have the Seidio case and it covers the edges, but when it was naked, it didn't really bother me. I had the OG Evo and got used to it there. (OG Evo leakage was BAD)
3: 3D is kinda cool, but, like many other gadgety things, is very limited and gimmicky.
4: I don't agree here. I LOVE the feel of the naked phone, I wish I didn't need a case for it, but I'm afraid for it. Haha.
All in all, it's your phone, if you don't love it, don't keep it. It's going to be as much a part of your life as your car.
As for my opinion? Sure, the phone has it's flaws, but it's an amazing piece of hardware, and coming up in a few months we will be able to make it do WTF ever we want with root/unlock.
Just keep in mind that everyone is going to have gripes about any phone they get, so just make sure you don't get your hopes up for the SGS2 to be perfect, cause it probably has some issues too.
I'm dissatisfied with this thread....do I make a topic about it nope... Man up and return it or exchange it... Or shut up.. these are all know problems with almost every early "stage" phone (hardware 002)
3D > iClone
1) my 3G is pretty bad, oddly my 4G is significantly more stable and faster than my 4G,
did you do the wimax and 3g tweaks yet? and the data reset?
2) no leakage at all (unlike my g2X which was terrible, when I had tmobile)
3) I wasnt feeling the 3D either, till encoded some movies on my own, now i like it a lot
4) weird I think the 3D is too slight, and light in comparison to the 4G,
I certainly say get what you want though...better hope CM7 hits the GSII, since they sent him one, otherwise a great phone will never get updated
the evo is already full steam ahead, and the bootloader hasnt even been unlocked yet
might want to take that into account
Xencer said:
This is not to start a flame war, I was really looking forward to my evo 3d when it was coming out but now I'm leaning to the SG2. This is to list grievances of my new evo 3d that I believe make it sub-par.
- Very poor 4g service, I live about 1 - 1.5 miles away from a Clear tower and I get 0 bars of when the 4g wifi symbol is on, my 4g speeds are around 2.5 Mbps, thats impressive 3g speed but for 4g, come on. When I have plenty of bars the most I can get is 5-6 Mbps....
- Super light leakage, along with never dimming capacitive buttons - I have a huge lip of light leakage from the capacitive buttons that bother the hell out of me, I can see it in daylight and the buttons never turn off even when I'm watching a movie or netflix
- I really was looking forward to the 3d, but honestly, I don't care about it at all haha.
- Very thick phone, feels like a brick imo
I'll probably take it back and wait for the Galaxy S II, and if I don't like that, hell I'll wait for the new Nexus phone, do any of these things I've listed bother you?
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take it back stop your tears and be gone
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1) my 3G is pretty bad, oddly my 4G is significantly more stable and faster than my 4G,
did you do the wimax and 3g tweaks yet? and the data reset?
2) no leakage at all (unlike my g2X which was terrible, when I had tmobile)
3) I wasnt feeling the 3D either, till encoded some movies on my own, now i like it a lot
4) weird I think the 3D is too slight, and light in comparison to the 4G,
I certainly say get what you want though...better hope CM7 hits the GSII, since they sent him one, otherwise a great phone will never get updated
the evo is already full steam ahead, and the bootloader hasnt even been unlocked yet
might want to take that into account
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I agree with the movie part, watching 3d movies is pretty nifty. there would be no reason to watch movies on a phone if it didn't have something my regular tv didn't, 3D.
as for the light leaking at the bottom, it is annoying. my 3G speeds are slow as well, so at work i have to use 4G and carry a charger to charge in the middle of the day. the ear speaker quality is pretty bad. it's crackly and not clear at all and the back speaker is a bit low. the capacitive buttons not dimming do annoy me a lot as well, especially when i watch a movie. I downloaded screen filter app which has helped but it doesn't seem to work with Aldiko.
besides that, the phone is pretty snappy barring some slight stutter in the marketplace and when using live wallpaper (for a dual core phone, that is pretty sad). I could be happy with this phone if I had to keep it (if they are able to somehow fix the ear speaker clarity).
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This thread bothers me
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+1
10charact
Some of this sites members are starting to bother me...and the thread...if only I was a mod sigh
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Amd4life said:
1) my 3G is pretty bad, oddly my 4G is significantly more stable and faster than my 4G,
did you do the wimax and 3g tweaks yet? and the data reset?
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I did the wimax tweaks (the faster reconnect/scanning) and that improved my 4G performance, but what 3G tweaks are out there? I'm noticing my 3G is really crappy too. It drops data a whole lot more than my Evo 4G - almost to the point that I'm thinking of returning the 3D to get my 4G back.
Unfortunately there are a fair amount of feeble members who can't take anyone wanting to express dissatisfaction with the 3D.
Issue is whether or not the discussion is solution-oriented or not.
Yours ended with 'does this bother you' implying you just came to ***** and see what kind of response you got. You were fortunate to get some constructive suggestions... Either follow up on them or move on.
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I did the wimax tweaks (the faster reconnect/scanning) and that improved my 4G performance, but what 3G tweaks are out there? I'm noticing my 3G is really crappy too. It drops data a whole lot more than my Evo 4G - almost to the point that I'm thinking of returning the 3D to get my 4G back.
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There ARE 3G tweaks involving removing proxies via the ##3282# mod. I'd say 75% of folks found it to help. Search 3G speeds
Another Bull**** thread... Whats annoying is not someone expressing thier opinion, but someone starting another thread on this. That's what gets people going. If you read peoples replys thier identical to other posts. Just post in a thread, don't start a new one. We get your upset about it, but everything the OP states is CLEARLY stated in other threads. It's like everyone what's to whine and get thier thoughts heard upfront......
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I actually think the phone is small and light, looks and feels smaller/lighter than my Evo 4G. Everytime I look down at it I think of my-coworkers Incredible. I bought the phone for the processor and the screen resolution, and didnt expect the 3D to be very impressive or something that I would really ever use. I gotta admit that the 3D is VERY impressive and I was totally shocked at how far things came out of the screen. Search "3d" on youtube and watch "youtube player in 3D". The sword and the fishing lure come away from the screen pretty far! Very impressive in my opinion. Aslo, Assasins Creed 3D looks pretty awesome to me as well... Every one can have a different opinion but I absolutely love my E3D. Maybe the fact that I wasnt expecting much from the 3D graphics is the reason that I am so pleased, but every one I have shown that video to was blown away that a phone could do that and said that they now wanna get the phone too. Oh, and 2900 plus Quadrant Advanced scores arent bad either
Can we go and litter your forums when you move to this new phone? Thanks, see you there.....
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Another Bull**** thread... Whats annoying is not someone expressing thier opinion, but someone starting another thread on this. That's what gets people going. If you read peoples replys thier identical to other posts. Just post in a thread, don't start a new one. We get your upset about it, but everything the OP states is CLEARLY stated in other threads. It's like everyone what's to whine and get thier thoughts heard upfront......
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Agree with this. I don't mind people having a negative opinion on the phone which sometimes can lead to me finding out something new. But really another new thread about it.
And again, why do people keep acting like they can switch to a SGS2? The thing has not been announced by Sprint so acting like it is going to be out any day and easy enough to switch to is just ludicrous.
Lastly, this thing is going to be rooted. It might be another couple months before that happens but when it does almost all of the complaints will be addressed. 3G will get better, battery life will improve, capactive buttons will turn off or any of a number of things. No phone is going to be perfect. If you think the SGS2 is going to be great, you really need to reevaluate your wants. The new Nexus phone (which won't be here until 2012) will have issues as well. And by that time, the 3D will be rooted and still be one of the best phones on the market.
I have a question.. Can anyone explain to me why prior to returning a phone people feel the need to post it here? If a person does not feel the phone is for them they go to Sprint, return the phone and its done. Whats the announcement on the board for?
Gawwd... I hate everything. The phone sucks, 3d is a dumb gimmick, I just bought it for its lame dualcore that sucks at benchmarks, which are impossible to see because the screen is at such a low resolution of 960x540 its pitiful. And I can't see the screen when in direct 109° sunlight.
Speeching of which. Gawd the sun is too bright. I'm disappointed in its brightness. And when I stare directly at it. It burns my eyes. Why even make it do that. That's stupid
And I sweat when it's too hot. Jeez... I don't see why they couldn't have just made me not do that or made it cooler or something. People don't sweat in Antarctica. I don't see why they can't do that here. It can't be that hard right?
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Gawwd... I hate everything. The phone sucks, 3d is a dumb gimmick, I just bought it for its lame dualcore that sucks at benchmarks, which are impossible to see because the screen is at such a low resolution of 960x540 its pitiful. And I can't see the screen when in direct 109° sunlight.
Speeching of which. Gawd the sun is too bright. I'm disappointed in its brightness. And when I stare directly at it. It burns my eyes. Why even make it do that. That's stupid
And I sweat when it's too hot. Jeez... I don't see why they couldn't have just made me not do that or made it cooler or something. People don't sweat in Antarctica. I don't see why they can't do that here. It can't be that hard right?
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maybe you can chime in on my thread...this is getting out of hand
ppcpirate said:
I agree with the movie part, watching 3d movies is pretty nifty. there would be no reason to watch movies on a phone if it didn't have something my regular tv didn't, 3D.
as for the light leaking at the bottom, it is annoying. my 3G speeds are slow as well, so at work i have to use 4G and carry a charger to charge in the middle of the day. the ear speaker quality is pretty bad. it's crackly and not clear at all and the back speaker is a bit low. the capacitive buttons not dimming do annoy me a lot as well, especially when i watch a movie. I downloaded screen filter app which has helped but it doesn't seem to work with Aldiko.
besides that, the phone is pretty snappy barring some slight stutter in the marketplace and when using live wallpaper (for a dual core phone, that is pretty sad). I could be happy with this phone if I had to keep it (if they are able to somehow fix the ear speaker clarity).
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Have you tried this?
http://www.android.net/forum/htc-evo-3d-faq/62158-improve-voice-quality-your-evo-3d.html
I have been having trouble with random reboots with the EVO4g and Sprint told me today they would give me a free EVO 3rd as its replacement. Now I am trying to decided if I should take the offer or insist on the original.
I already have the Seidio extended battery and innotraveler kit for the original. So I'd have to buy both of those for the 3d and take a huge loss on selling those parts on Ebay. So even though the phone would be free I would have to invest about about 125 on those accessories.
So have any of you guys moved from the original to the 3d and are you happy about it?
Thanks.
In my experience with the phone, I can say I am happy about the purchase. I owned the EVO 4G previously.
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3d is an upgrade in all aspects. if they are going to offer it to you for free then take it. the only thing alot of us have an issue with is the signal strength (not as strong as original EVO, or alot of other phones for that matter), bad call quality, and if the battery dies it can be hard to get it to power back on for the 1st 15-20 minutes.
Id say as long as your in an area that has a strong signal then do it. The 3d is an awesome device even with its shortcomings
+3 it's well worth it. Coming from a previous 4G owner.
Agreed, go with the free upgrade to the 3D.
I wish the EVO 3d had the same dimensions as the og EVO.
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I wish the EVO 3d had the same dimensions as the og EVO.
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This. Definitely this. I'm a big guy, I have big hands and big pockets. My hands are just a little too big for the E3D screen whereas on the E4G screen I could one-hand everything without overshooting.
...though the resolution increase more than makes up for any loss in physical dimension, so far as on screen information (text) is concerned.
It still irks me to this day. A lot. I'm swapping my E3D for an SGS2 next week for a couple reasons--one actually serious. But I won't say that I'm not excited to be back to a nice fat portrait screen....also there are a small handfull of apps that don't play nice in qHD and will just get smaller on the screen...it's no big deal, for the most part, but freaking annoying that an app that used to fill the screen no longer does.
I also get less signal and roam more than I did on my E4G. It's kinda critical. It's happening with me and a couple others on here. Though the vast majority of people seem to have no problem. That is why I'm jumping to a different phone...that and the power button acts funking when powering on. Most people don't power cycle their phone for weeks or even months at a time, so, for most this is a non issue. But, getting it to turn on reliably (and sometimes charge) is a crap shoot that might require a battery pull.
...but aside from those gripes the phone is an upgrade in every way. Nothing slows this phone down. The camera is WAY better, the audio recording for videos is WAY better, Sense is WAY cooler--if sense is your thing...it's not mine.
You can never use the 3D feature during the entire time you own the 3D, and it is infinitely better than the OG Evo. I loved my OG Evo, but this is a MUCH more powerful device and it is obvious after using it for 5 minutes. Not to mention, my previous Evo was always running out of space (even with ext3 upgrade and A2SD) to the point where I couldn't even get market updates without removing an app or two.
Then there's the screen resolution.....much better on the 3D. The native HDMI out via the MHL adapter works lovely without any 3rd party apps. Battery life is much better on the 3D, too. It's also nice to run the newer version of Sense without all the lag.
I say: Do it.....you won't be disappointed.
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Evo 3d of course.. my friend had the original one.. and he is always having problems wit it... plus the 3d battery last longer and faster... ...
EVO 3D, hands down. Don't spend 125 on Seido. Go on eBay and get three extra batteries for ten bucks, way cheaper, easier to carry, looks better, and last longer, Will cost you ten bucks and you'll make a profit if you sell your old stuff, you're going make a profit.