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So does the Evo 3d use the same charging method as the og evo?
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phyba said:
So does the Evo 3d use the same charging method as the og evo?
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I don't know if they did anything differently, but I definitely don't notice the typical 100-90 drop (or avalanche) like with the EVO.
Simple answer, of course its the same.
long answer..not answering, haha
Of course battery stops charging at 100%. Its full. What do you want it to goto 101%
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You guys know what he means... geeez. the Evo would read 100% when it would actually be anywhere from 90-100% (before the awesome SBC kernels)
I would also like to know how the charging cycles work on the 3D, I would hope it is different.
its not actually going to charge to 100%, these battery's don't do that, hurts the life of the battery.
what does the phone actually say? Can't say I know, but it doesn't really matter what it say's, its still functionally the same.
I guess ill have to test this out and see
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without the battery widget the bar can show at 100% and still be charging till the light turns green.
the battery bar in settings changes too 100% when it reaches 91%
99%-100% takes the longest for the device to register.
The E3D takes longer to charge than my evo with the extended battery
OK. My battery just charged to 100% and I went into battery widget app and it shows that the phone is no longer charging and turns off just like the EVO and starts to discharge...
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ok after a few days i've noticed that the green indicator light comes on when its fully charged. when i power it down to charge i cant seem to get it to turn green... has anyone else experienced this?
Let me see if I can shed some light on this.
When I plug my EVO 3D in, it'll go up to 100% and the red light will turn to green. If I leave it on my charger and check on it a bit later, I notice that the battery % will go down to about 95% and then it'll go back up to 100%.
So from my initial observations, it looks like the kernel is very similar to the EVO 4G's SBC kernels. It's quite possible that it is SBC but I guess we won't be able to completely figure it out until HTC releases the kernel source code.
My .02. Hope this sheds some light for others of you to pay attention to
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Let me see if I can shed some light on this.
When I plug my EVO 3D in, it'll go up to 100% and the red light will turn to green. If I leave it on my charger and check on it a bit later, I notice that the battery % will go down to about 95% and then it'll go back up to 100%.
So from my initial observations, it looks like the kernel is very similar to the EVO 4G's SBC kernels. It's quite possible that it is SBC but I guess we won't be able to completely figure it out until HTC releases the kernel source code.
My .02. Hope this sheds some light for others of you to pay attention to
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This how li-ion batteries are supposed to be charged, sbc kernels prevented it from ever turning the charger off so it kept feeding the battery power after it was at 100%
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Not like sbc, its like the bump charging method.
Og evo went down to 90 then back to 100, so if it only goes down to 95 thats better at least. Sure its not "100" percent of all the battery life... but its 100% of the advertised battery life.
Definitely noticed that it doesn't have that significant drop from overcharging. The battery will stop charging at 100%, discharge, and top off as needed. Much better than what we saw on the Evo.
had battery at 1% , plugged it in , 6 hours later it was at 73%... that normal?
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had battery at 1% , plugged it in , 6 hours later it was at 73%... that normal?
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on USB power? yeah
in ac power ...
last night it was about 37% when i put it on charger 8 hours later its at 98%
it charges fine, no need for sbc
Anyone. Each else noticed that the battery charges strange..
With battery monitor the monitor is all over the place up and down
I know this is a bigger battery.. But did they sprint or htc change how the phone charges?
E3D
Mine doesn't exactly do that, but I swear I have yet to see mine say 100%. It stays at 99 forever and then the light just turns green.
That's how you keep a battery properly charged. You top it off every so often. You will overcharged the battery if you keep pumping it while its at 100%. So you hit 99-100 let it drop to 97-98, rinse and repeat.
Can I get a ROOT canal for my 3vo cavity?
darkflame said:
That's how you keep a battery properly charged. You top it off every so often. You will overcharged the battery if you keep pumping it while its at 100%. So you hit 99-100 let it drop to 97-98, rinse and repeat.
Can I get a ROOT canal for my 3vo cavity?
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No.
Li-Ion batteries and the chargers have a cut off built in that automatically do this to prevent overcharge.
I'll post a screen shot later if i can.. What application allows it with out root.
E3D
Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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Lol lol lol
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
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Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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if i had it lol
It's fine, once your phone is at 100% it'll let itself discharge till it is at 95%, and then it will charge back to 100%. It'll keep doing this till it is removed from the charger. Harmless is to say.
Someone already stated the answer in here.
Yeah, something is different though. This morning my phone was plugged in and everything and it hadn't hit the green light yet but just stopped charging. The battery icon didnt show that it was charging like it should while plugged in either. Plugged it in and it eventually started again.
well, my first evo3d woudlnt hit 100 and i let it charge immediatly.
my 2nd evo3d was used right away.. i let it drop to 5% then charged it to 100%.. this time, it actually showed 100% .. now the battery sips down by 1% at a time. feels good.. only problem now is that i have a different screen vs my first 3d.. the whites arent as bright.. feels like the whole damn epson vs novatec again.. grrr
There seems to be some logic in the battery charging algorithm that reduces the draw from the charger when it gets close to 100%. Using battery monitor widget, I can see that it charges at 900ma or so when just plugged in but this drops to a mere 30ma when it's at 99%. That's why it takes forever to get to 100%.
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For some reason my 3D's battery never achieves 100% charge. I leave it charging using the HTC charger included and I never get more than 98% charge after 12 hours.
Anyone else have this problem??
ChadH42 said:
For some reason my 3D's battery never achieves 100% charge. I leave it charging using the HTC charger included and I never get more than 98% charge after 12 hours.
Anyone else have this problem??
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Mine does, but it takes a while. Normally it charges up pretty fast up to like 95. Then it slows down and once it gets to 99, it stays there for atleast 10 mins and finally goes to 100. One thing I did notice though is when it gets to 100, even if its on the charger it will start falling back to 99 and 98.
Mine has never reached 100%, even if I unplug it when the light turns green and plug it back in it will just stay at 99%.
I've woken up to 97 or 98, it has never gone above that.
I believe HTC has some sort of smart charger system on here. It will charge quickly to ~ 95, then slow down until it hits 100. Then it will quit charging at all until it drops back down to ~95 or so and repeat the process. Supposedly, it will increase battery life by not overcharging it.
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3vo. That is all that needs be said.
The Evo 3D always chargers too 100% what you are seeing is that once the device hits 100% it stops charging and waits till the battery drops to 90% or so before it starts charging again, so what does that mean you're catching the battery after it has stop charging and is recharging again
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Mine does, but it takes a while. Normally it charges up pretty fast up to like 95. Then it slows down and once it gets to 99, it stays there for atleast 10 mins and finally goes to 100. One thing I did notice though is when it gets to 100, even if its on the charger it will start falling back to 99 and 98.
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Mine does the exact same thing, weird.
kingakuma said:
The Evo 3D always chargers too 100% what you are seeing is that once the device hits 100% it stops charging and waits till the battery drops to 90% or so before it starts charging again, so what does that mean you're catching the battery after it has stop charging and is recharging again
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He is right....on the OG EVO its would display 100 while it was dropping but the 3vo shows the actual percentage
Once the led turns green unplug restart and plug back in. Should now show the led red again and finish charging. After once it should be fine.
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I am using an aftermarket stand alone battery charger. When I took it off the charger this morning it only shows at 91%. Does anybody have any idea why that would be the case? I have used this same kind of a setup with my Evo and it was always at 100% when I pulled the battery off the charger. I was even using extended batteries and never had a problem!
cmdauria said:
I am using an aftermarket stand alone battery charger. When I took it off the charger this morning it only shows at 91%. Does anybody have any idea why that would be the case? I have used this same kind of a setup with my Evo and it was always at 100% when I pulled the battery off the charger. I was even using extended batteries and never had a problem!
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Probably some kind of safeguard chip built into the battery that does this even on aftermarket wall chargers. I have never seen this before and every aftermarket charger I have had has charged the batteries to 100% and they stayed there, but maybe HTC got hip to the aftermarket chargers and implemented the battery mod to work on them too. Just a guess and there is no proven fact to this statement.
Run it down, then charge it up
My 3D wouldn't charge to 100% until I ran it until it shut down due to low battery and charged it until the green light like 3 times. Once I hit that magical 3rd time, it showed 100%.
at first it was only orange light , but after unplugging then plugging back in I get green light.
you can get a 100% charger like others have said, but for sure the charging software makes it tricky
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kingakuma said:
The Evo 3D always chargers too 100% what you are seeing is that once the device hits 100% it stops charging and waits till the battery drops to 90% or so before it starts charging again, so what does that mean you're catching the battery after it has stop charging and is recharging again
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Thanks man. I thought I was going crazy, b/c I wake up every morning to about 96% charge after about 8hrs on the charger. Totally makes sense now. (pun intended )
Every wall hub charger I get from ebay has helped charge all my HTC and Nexus S phones better. I always get 100%, and they stay there not draining to 90% in under 5 mins like the wall plug does.
I abhor the wall plug and have avoided it like the plague..not only that, but micro USB breaks very easily and is not a sturdy charging port.
I see them break on every modern model phone today. It's just a horrible unsturdy design. Wish we'd go back to mini usb.
TheNexxuvas said:
Every wall hub charger I get from ebay has helped charge all my HTC and Nexus S phones better. I always get 100%, and they stay there not draining to 90% in under 5 mins like the wall plug does.
I abhor the wall plug and have avoided it like the plague..not only that, but micro USB breaks very easily and is not a sturdy charging port.
I see them break on every modern model phone today. It's just a horrible unsturdy design. Wish we'd go back to mini usb.
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That is the problem. Every one that I have ever used also charged and kept them at 100%. This battery did not. It came off the charger after a full day of being fully charged and it was at 91%
I have seen mine go to 100% once. They must have done something new here with either how it charges, or how it computes the percentage remaining, since this is the first HTC phone I have had (I've had them since the Palm Treos) that doesn't go from 100% to 90% in the first 10 mins of use.
Perhaps HTC has implemented an SBC-like charging system on the E3D
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Perhaps HTC has implemented an SBC-like charging system on the E3D
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I think it might be something else. The battery does not show 100% even off of the stand alone charger!
When I charge my phone it only charges to 99%. I'll leave it in for a while, come back and it's only at 99%. Either charging in the wall, or on the computer. It used to make it to 100% then all of a sudden it just stays at 99% regardless how long it charges. So the charging light always stays on and never lets me know when it's fully charged.
Any idea why?
Thanks.
Mine does that too once in a while, randomly.
But the Sensation would do that to randomly.
Dunno why.
Battery is strange...
I get that too. But eventually it will get to 100%. There has been times where it was charged to 100% then suddenly drop to 99% even though it still plugged in.
Did you get your phone recently? I'm thinking its because the battery needs to be conditioned.
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
I've installed Battery Widget (from Market) and it reports 100%. I plug in every night and in the morning it reads 100%.
zellroot said:
Mines always does that, as soon as I unplug it it jumps to 98%. Im hoping ARHD fixes this
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ARHD, what is that?
nguyendqh said:
ARHD, what is that?
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New Amaze Android Revolution HD ROM by mike1986?
This happens with many devices. I have not seen this yet on my Amaze but I am sure at some point it will happen. Try turning the phone off and charging it to 100% then power it on also try running the battery all the way down and letting it charge to full UNINTERRUPTED over night. If those dont help you can always try another rom with better battery management or go into a t-mobile store and get a battery replacement if your battery is still under warranty. Hope this helps
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge a battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
its the best sense rom known to man in my opinion.
daswahnsinn said:
HTC does this on a lot of phones. It is a safety default to keep the battery healthy and safe. I had this issue with the Evo. The only way to fully charge and battery is to have other a wall charger or a SBC kernel.
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My stock battery is 3.8v, and it only goes to 100% if I charge it in the phone. If I use my wall charger, it shows up at 99% when I put it back in my phone. I have two aftermarket batteries that show about 98% when charged from the wall. I am thinking that the phone charging circuit is set for 3.8v, and might possibly overheat the aftermarket batteries (3.7v). I saw one review that said these batteries melted the top of his SIM card. I'm not planning on trying that; I use the stock, charging every night, and swap the spares in if I run out of charge during the day.
I just remember hearing the same stories when I had my evo. You could charge for hours and unplug it and it would almost immediately drop to 99 or 98. So my previous statement may or may not help.
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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For anyone who is running quicksense, if you want better battery life, charge your phone completely and go into recovery > Advanced> wipe battery stats. And done!
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RZJZA80 said:
I charged mine over nite and woke up to it being 99%, left it for another hour or two and it hit 100%. I would say to leave it a little longer to get that last 1%.
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I find that if my phone its powered off while charging, it shows 100. If powered on, it shoes 99.
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this is normal for lithium ion batteries...it also depends how the manufacturer perceives the battery...some manufeacturers say that your phone is 100 percent but it might only be around 95-98...overcharging lithium ions are bad...also some manufacturers say you have 10 percent left while you might actually have 15 or maybe to percent left...this is a fail safe method to shut off the phone and keep the battery from draining completely WHICH IS REALLY REALLY BAD FOR LITHIUM IONS...OVER CHARGING THE BATTERY IS BAD TOO...perhaps htc's thresh holds are a little different and actual to the real battery life.
also not a good idea to use your phone or any lithium ion device while its charging
powering off your phone to charge it overnight is the best idea to give you lithium ion a long life but this is not practical. this is why it says 100 percent when you turn off the phone and 99 when you're phone is off....it confuses the phone: " A portable device must be turned off during charge. This allows the battery to reach the set threshold voltage unhindered, and enables terminating charge on low current. A parasitic load (which means using phone or turning screen on while its charging) confuses the charger by depressing the battery voltage and preventing the current in the saturation stage to drop low. A battery may be fully charged, but the prevailing conditions prompt a continued charge. This causes undue battery stress and compromises safety."
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/a..._ion_batteries
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=19651965&postcount=7
Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
It charges up to 100% then decharge down to 90% and so up again to 100% and it continues like this, to keep the battery as good as possible over a long time.
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I have the same problem. I turned off the phone at 23:00, put to charge, woke up at 07:00, removed from charge and turned on, it was %95. Actually it changes, sometimes %97 sometimes %98. But if i charge it when phone is on it charges to %100 and keep it like that..
On or not the battery will be jumping from ~95% to 100% when left on charge. If you use a battery monitoring app you can see that, even whilst on and charging at 100%, the voltage changes from about 4.2 to 4.1 volts and continually up and down again. This is to increase the battery life because lithium batterys do not like to be kept at 4.2 volts for exessive periods of time.
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Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
MrBelter said:
Battery monitor clearly shows the phone charging to 95% or 100% dependent of its off or on state, there is none of this charging discharging you are on about.
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When the phone is on, some battery power is used to maintain the screen backlight and the SoC. Therefore the overall battery consumption is higher, thus the system will charge the battery more, but it will actually stay at the same voltage.
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The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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MrBelter said:
The phone should charge to 100% when switched off and it clearly doesn't, you can give me all the charging mumbo jumbo you like but the handset should be at 100% when turned on but it never even achieves anything past 95%. Once the handset reaches 100% it should revert to a trickle charge not fanny about dipping 5% as is being suggested.
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Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
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It works this way, whether you like it or not. If you don't, go modify it and enjoy killing your battery.
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But the point is it doesn't!
Jorgitosms said:
Yes, but things use to work in an optimized way, not in the way you would like to... Sony prefers to optimize the phone and the battery life than to make people happy by keeping 100% while decreasing drastically battery life...
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Right I'll try one more time.
Turned off the phone charges to 95%, no higher and no lower and battery monitor widget can confirm this.
Turned on the phone charges to 100% and remains at 100% without variation until unplugged from the charger and battery monitor can confirm this.
You can see variations in both voltage and current as the charge cycle maintains either the off state 95% charge or the on state 100% charge but in either case the actual level of charge is without fluctuation.
Just picked my phone up from the changer. 99% battery.
I put the phone to charge overnight without turning it off and everyday I wake up at 100%
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Not showing 100% even while left ON and charging
Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
Mine charges to 100% and stays at 100%.
mine SXS takes 20 minutes from 99 to 100%.
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Any idea why the Xperia S only charges to 95% if you charge it whilst off but is happy to charge 100% when left on to charge.
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Under UK generic .75 the phone charges all the way to 100% while off now
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Tops out at 95% or 98%, but keeps varying from time to time ..... I have had the phone (XPS) for three days and not seen a 100% charge till now . Also one thing I have noticed is that the Notification light turns from Orange to Green. That's when I normally take the phone off charge.
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The led turns green at 90%. That's when it slows down charging to protect the battery..
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