So does the Evo 3d use the same charging method as the og evo?
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phyba said:
So does the Evo 3d use the same charging method as the og evo?
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I don't know if they did anything differently, but I definitely don't notice the typical 100-90 drop (or avalanche) like with the EVO.
Simple answer, of course its the same.
long answer..not answering, haha
Of course battery stops charging at 100%. Its full. What do you want it to goto 101%
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You guys know what he means... geeez. the Evo would read 100% when it would actually be anywhere from 90-100% (before the awesome SBC kernels)
I would also like to know how the charging cycles work on the 3D, I would hope it is different.
its not actually going to charge to 100%, these battery's don't do that, hurts the life of the battery.
what does the phone actually say? Can't say I know, but it doesn't really matter what it say's, its still functionally the same.
I guess ill have to test this out and see
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without the battery widget the bar can show at 100% and still be charging till the light turns green.
the battery bar in settings changes too 100% when it reaches 91%
99%-100% takes the longest for the device to register.
The E3D takes longer to charge than my evo with the extended battery
OK. My battery just charged to 100% and I went into battery widget app and it shows that the phone is no longer charging and turns off just like the EVO and starts to discharge...
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ok after a few days i've noticed that the green indicator light comes on when its fully charged. when i power it down to charge i cant seem to get it to turn green... has anyone else experienced this?
Let me see if I can shed some light on this.
When I plug my EVO 3D in, it'll go up to 100% and the red light will turn to green. If I leave it on my charger and check on it a bit later, I notice that the battery % will go down to about 95% and then it'll go back up to 100%.
So from my initial observations, it looks like the kernel is very similar to the EVO 4G's SBC kernels. It's quite possible that it is SBC but I guess we won't be able to completely figure it out until HTC releases the kernel source code.
My .02. Hope this sheds some light for others of you to pay attention to
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Let me see if I can shed some light on this.
When I plug my EVO 3D in, it'll go up to 100% and the red light will turn to green. If I leave it on my charger and check on it a bit later, I notice that the battery % will go down to about 95% and then it'll go back up to 100%.
So from my initial observations, it looks like the kernel is very similar to the EVO 4G's SBC kernels. It's quite possible that it is SBC but I guess we won't be able to completely figure it out until HTC releases the kernel source code.
My .02. Hope this sheds some light for others of you to pay attention to
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This how li-ion batteries are supposed to be charged, sbc kernels prevented it from ever turning the charger off so it kept feeding the battery power after it was at 100%
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Not like sbc, its like the bump charging method.
Og evo went down to 90 then back to 100, so if it only goes down to 95 thats better at least. Sure its not "100" percent of all the battery life... but its 100% of the advertised battery life.
Definitely noticed that it doesn't have that significant drop from overcharging. The battery will stop charging at 100%, discharge, and top off as needed. Much better than what we saw on the Evo.
had battery at 1% , plugged it in , 6 hours later it was at 73%... that normal?
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had battery at 1% , plugged it in , 6 hours later it was at 73%... that normal?
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on USB power? yeah
in ac power ...
last night it was about 37% when i put it on charger 8 hours later its at 98%
it charges fine, no need for sbc
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Anyone. Each else noticed that the battery charges strange..
With battery monitor the monitor is all over the place up and down
I know this is a bigger battery.. But did they sprint or htc change how the phone charges?
E3D
Mine doesn't exactly do that, but I swear I have yet to see mine say 100%. It stays at 99 forever and then the light just turns green.
That's how you keep a battery properly charged. You top it off every so often. You will overcharged the battery if you keep pumping it while its at 100%. So you hit 99-100 let it drop to 97-98, rinse and repeat.
Can I get a ROOT canal for my 3vo cavity?
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That's how you keep a battery properly charged. You top it off every so often. You will overcharged the battery if you keep pumping it while its at 100%. So you hit 99-100 let it drop to 97-98, rinse and repeat.
Can I get a ROOT canal for my 3vo cavity?
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No.
Li-Ion batteries and the chargers have a cut off built in that automatically do this to prevent overcharge.
I'll post a screen shot later if i can.. What application allows it with out root.
E3D
Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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Lol lol lol
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
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Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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if i had it lol
It's fine, once your phone is at 100% it'll let itself discharge till it is at 95%, and then it will charge back to 100%. It'll keep doing this till it is removed from the charger. Harmless is to say.
Someone already stated the answer in here.
Yeah, something is different though. This morning my phone was plugged in and everything and it hadn't hit the green light yet but just stopped charging. The battery icon didnt show that it was charging like it should while plugged in either. Plugged it in and it eventually started again.
well, my first evo3d woudlnt hit 100 and i let it charge immediatly.
my 2nd evo3d was used right away.. i let it drop to 5% then charged it to 100%.. this time, it actually showed 100% .. now the battery sips down by 1% at a time. feels good.. only problem now is that i have a different screen vs my first 3d.. the whites arent as bright.. feels like the whole damn epson vs novatec again.. grrr
There seems to be some logic in the battery charging algorithm that reduces the draw from the charger when it gets close to 100%. Using battery monitor widget, I can see that it charges at 900ma or so when just plugged in but this drops to a mere 30ma when it's at 99%. That's why it takes forever to get to 100%.
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I cannot get the phone to charge to 100%. it charges to 96% and turns the light green. only when I charge with phone turned off and unplug/plug after its on green, I can get it to 100%. Any advice on how to fix this?
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No fix, its a bug.
What's even more funny my lockscreen will say 92% and Beautiful Widgets battery meter will say 88%. WTF!
What I found with mine, is it will charge to 100% and shut charging down, and then the charger won't pick back up until it drains back down to 95%. So I wake up in the morning and its at 96-97% instead of 100% like other phones I've had.
Its probably something to do with the kernel, just another reason we need full root and s-off.
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No fix, its a bug.
What's even more funny my lockscreen will say 92% and Beautiful Widgets battery meter will say 88%. WTF!
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It's not a bug, HTC designed it that way intentionally. The Evo 4g did the same thing as the 3D. Mine will hit 100% but then it's designed to stop charging until the battery has fallen back down to 96%. Fortunately, this isn't a very long cycle since these phones don't sleep while charging... now that's a bug.
It's typical gingerbread behavior..
So i am a recent convert coming from a RAZR and would like to know whats the best way to train the battery. The RAZR was horrible.
What do you mean train it?
I think he means as far as calibrate it from the beginning. Usually when I take a phone outta the box ill let the battery dir from there. No immediate charge. And then ill charge it and let it completely die 3 times. Done that with all my devices in the past few years and usually works like a charm. But when root comes we can add battery tweaks and such. My battery right now isn't too bad, but my EVO 3D was a lil better. I love this frkken phone
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Ah, I just let it die and then charged it all the way up. No issues here!
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Ah, I just let it die and then charged it all the way up. No issues here!
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Nope me either
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The app battery calibration from the market works well too
I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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Because it stops taking charge when its full. Otherwise you would wake up with little pieces of your rezound all over the room .
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Doing one time is probably more helpful than hurtful though.
Yea. Where you should probably run it down low when for the first few charges. I wouldn't totally kill it. Over about a week you should see a little improvement as it settles
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e90driver said:
Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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After flashing a Rom you have to calibrate battery by letting it drain fully and then fully recharge so can't be that hurtful. Now letting it sit at 0% for 5 hours is not such a good idea.
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After flashing a Rom you have to calibrate battery by letting it drain fully and then fully recharge so can't be that hurtful. Now letting it sit at 0% for 5 hours is not such a good idea.
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Well u can do that yes. Or u can wipe battery status. Or download battery calibrator from the market.
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Do most of you guys keep your phones plugged in (charging) as long as you are around a USB port/wall outlet or not? Unless I buy a battery booster, I don't like the thought of my phone being any less than topped off in the event that I can't charge it for a while. I'm aware that the battery can't be over-charged, but keeping it at 100% so much of the time doesn't seem like a good way to treat it. :/
Won't hurt it , people in the office have been doing it forever.
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Never let your battery die completely. That puts stress on the battery.
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I think he means as far as calibrate it from the beginning. Usually when I take a phone outta the box ill let the battery dir from there. No immediate charge. And then ill charge it and let it completely die 3 times. Done that with all my devices in the past few years and usually works like a charm. But when root comes we can add battery tweaks and such. My battery right now isn't too bad, but my EVO 3D was a lil better. I love this frkken phone
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Thats what I always do and always recomend.
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I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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Thats by design to stop it from over charging and to keep the battery fresh.
e90driver said:
Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Every one is quick to say this... But I ask you... By how much? Any hard numbers on that?
My point is... The battery is not going to last forever to begin with. If I get 12 months out of the battery that is 6 months longer than I would have used the device the battery is powering
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Doing one time is probably more helpful than hurtful though.
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Indeed! Every once in a while it will not hurt your battery in a measurable way.
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Never let your battery die completely. That puts stress on the battery.
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Everything you do with your phone stresses your battery.
Point being... As reverepats said... For the first few charges its good to drain it down then full charge it back up. Your not hurting the battery in such a way its going to noticeably shorten the life span.
This by the way doesnt do much for the battery itself... More for the OS. The OS compiles statics on usage, etc... This helps the OS "learn" the battery.
Now to counter point I made above...
The OS will also learn the battery over time... By doing cycle charges you are only speeding it up some. I still recommend cycle charging. I try to do it about once a week.
The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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Yeah, I have heard of others using that method as well.
bgmikejr said:
The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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But, but, that requires me to leave this beautiful phone turned off for a while, I'm not sure I can survive that torture...
My htc amaze doesn't display battery % correctly all the time.
How can I calibrate my battery? I see a bunch of methods but Im not sure whats best for the amaze
Im useing bulletproof 2.1.0 and faux .008 beta 4
thanks!
what has worked for me with bulletproof is to drain the battery to under 15%, charge it overnight, boot into recovery and wipe the battery stats.
will try it, thanks
rdmay20 said:
My htc amaze doesn't display battery % correctly all the time.
How can I calibrate my battery? I see a bunch of methods but Im not sure whats best for the amaze
Im useing bulletproof 2.1.0 and faux .008 beta 4
thanks!
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BTW, there is a new faux kernel out now. Beta 5 released.
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so i figured out that my phone doesn't read my battery life correctly anymore, it will be at 39% and shut down, then i turn on my phone it will have 4% and itll turn off right away so i plug in my charger and it'll have 55%
dont really understand whats going on any help?
I just used this app and it worked, it reads the percentage just fine
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
I havent been able to get my battery to stay at 100%, just says 99% and i have to guess when its fully charged. wiped battery stats and everything. running the same ROM
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I just used this app and it worked, it reads the percentage just fine
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.nema.batterycalibration&hl=en
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As the app says, all it does it delete the batterystats file. Use root explorer and go delete /data/system/batterystats.bin and you accomplished the same thing as that "app"
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I havent been able to get my battery to stay at 100%, just says 99% and i have to guess when its fully charged. wiped battery stats and everything. running the same ROM
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I get the same thing.. and because the device doesn't die all the way(at about 1% it does a soft power off) I can't get it calibrated right.
I'm using senseless, and I think it is more than the battery stats file.. tonight it was at 40%, started bootlooping for no apparent reason.. pulled the battery, rebooted and it said it was at 13%.
It has been a solid rom in a lot of senses(pun?), but I may try something else because of the quirks it has been having..
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As the app says, all it does it delete the batterystats file. Use root explorer and go delete /data/system/batterystats.bin and you accomplished the same thing as that "app"
I get the same thing.. and because the device doesn't die all the way(at about 1% it does a soft power off) I can't get it calibrated right.
I'm using senseless, and I think it is more than the battery stats file.. tonight it was at 40%, started bootlooping for no apparent reason.. pulled the battery, rebooted and it said it was at 13%.
It has been a solid rom in a lot of senses(pun?), but I may try something else because of the quirks it has been having..
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thats what was happening to me, i did a full wipe, using bulletproof, then calibrate, Im still testing but so far it reads fine, will update if everything is working fine in a couple of days.
another method is abit troublesome...
1. charge your phone battery till full (off mode)
2.when full unplug it, and open up the cover
3. take off the battery and left it there over 90sec or more..
4. put back the battery n bootup your phone.. it should calibrate..
if your battery is used too long it might your battery problem
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another method is abit troublesome...
1. charge your phone battery till full (off mode)
2.when full unplug it, and open up the cover
3. take off the battery and left it there over 90sec or more..
4. put back the battery n bootup your phone.. it should calibrate..
if your battery is used too long it might your battery problem
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I might try this. My battery indicator stays at 100% for like ten seconds or maybe longer then goes back down to 99%. Makes no sense lol
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I might try this. My battery indicator stays at 100% for like ten seconds or maybe longer then goes back down to 99%. Makes no sense lol
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I'm only a two week owner of the Amaze, but I've found curious differences between the stock battery and the Anker (1900 mAh). First, the stock battery will remain at 100% for a fair length of time before starting to drop (sorry, I haven't quantified it, but it's easily half hour to 45 mins even after making a call or two). However, the Anker battery drops off of 100% pretty quickly, as little as 10 minutes without doing anything. Admittedly, I've cycled the stock battery a few more times than the Anker, and even Anker says it takes 4 to 5 full charge and discharges to reach best performance, but I don't recall the stock being that quick to drop even after the 1st full charge. I haven't used the Anker enough yet to have a feel of whether the Anker will last longer overall, though.
Off topic, but somewhat related - The Anker charger doesn't seem to charge the battery to a full 100% - either the Anker battery or the original. In both cases, as soon as I install the battery from the Anker charger, the Amaze meter indicates just 96%. I even left it plugged in for another hour after the light turned blue, but it didn't help. Not a biggie, just an observation.
BTW, I got this from someone else who had already posted it, but according to a Google Engineer it seems that resetting battery statistics doesn't help. Read about it here: http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
gregb882 said:
I'm only a two week owner of the Amaze, but I've found curious differences between the stock battery and the Anker (1900 mAh). First, the stock battery will remain at 100% for a fair length of time before starting to drop (sorry, I haven't quantified it, but it's easily half hour to 45 mins even after making a call or two). However, the Anker battery drops off of 100% pretty quickly, as little as 10 minutes without doing anything. Admittedly, I've cycled the stock battery a few more times than the Anker, and even Anker says it takes 4 to 5 full charge and discharges to reach best performance, but I don't recall the stock being that quick to drop even after the 1st full charge. I haven't used the Anker enough yet to have a feel of whether the Anker will last longer overall, though.
Off topic, but somewhat related - The Anker charger doesn't seem to charge the battery to a full 100% - either the Anker battery or the original. In both cases, as soon as I install the battery from the Anker charger, the Amaze meter indicates just 96%. I even left it plugged in for another hour after the light turned blue, but it didn't help. Not a biggie, just an observation.
BTW, I got this from someone else who had already posted it, but according to a Google Engineer it seems that resetting battery statistics doesn't help. Read about it here: http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
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exactly lol. my battery will stay at 100% (99% according to bulletproof) for a long time then once it drops it drops fast
I left my phone off while charging, and I'm having good results.. only weird thing is that it slowly flashes on and off the orange light and never shows green while powered *off* and on the charger.. I can't find anything that shows this is normal. Is it supposed to get to a green light when powered off and charging?
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Silentbtdeadly said:
I left my phone off while charging, and I'm having good results.. only weird thing is that it slowly flashes on and off the orange light and never shows green while powered *off* and on the charger.. I can't find anything that shows this is normal. Is it supposed to get to a green light when powered off and charging?
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I have the exact problem like you
rdmay20 said:
My htc amaze doesn't display battery % correctly all the time.
How can I calibrate my battery? I see a bunch of methods but Im not sure whats best for the amaze
Im useing bulletproof 2.1.0 and faux .008 beta 4
thanks!
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Hmmm. I would check this out! http://www.androidcentral.com/wiping-battery-stats-doesnt-improve-battery-life-says-google-engineer
I didnt think it improved battery life, My phone just didn't read it correctly which wiping battery stats does fix!
I've only had my 3d for a few days but since day one it has taken forever for my battery to charge to a 100% . It will charge to 99% and stay there for what seems like an hour then when it finally hits a 100% it will start to discharge after about 5 minutes.
My question is, is this normal?
TIA for any help.
HTC handles charging differently than others. That is normal, don't worry about it. It will discharge a few percent and then top itself off again
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HTC handles charging differently than others. That is normal, don't worry about it. It will discharge a few percent and then top itself off again
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I know about the discharge but its the fact that it takes so long to hit a 100% from 99% .
But thanks for the reply I know you have to be busy with all your development.
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I know about the discharge but its the fact that it takes so long to hit a 100% from 99% .
But thanks for the reply I know you have to be busy with all your development.
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Mine does that weird part about it is when it dead dead and you throw it on the charger for 9hrs it still won't turn green lol.. I may have to let it sit there longer ... When I turn it on says 99% and still charging will hit 100% pretty quick and battery life lasts forever lol... It is normal tho for it to take awhile to hit 100 % and that discharge thing is normal too no worrys man..
Yeah, I guess it's HTC 'method' to charge the battery, although it makes no sense... I thought maybe it was something to do with the stock battery, so I bought 'Platinum' series 1900mAh the other day and it still does the same things....
Not only taking an hour or so to go from 99 to 100 percent, but when I try to 'calibrate' the battery, it takes an additional 5 or 6 hours it seems. I charge it to 100, turn it off, plug it back in, and wait for the green light to come on again.... two or three hours later, it will finally turn green. If I only let it charge for an hour or so and turn it on, the battery will show 95%... absolutely ridiculous. I don't ever remember the Evo being like that. The battery charging on the 3D is just stupid, in my opinion