I've only had my 3d for a few days but since day one it has taken forever for my battery to charge to a 100% . It will charge to 99% and stay there for what seems like an hour then when it finally hits a 100% it will start to discharge after about 5 minutes.
My question is, is this normal?
TIA for any help.
HTC handles charging differently than others. That is normal, don't worry about it. It will discharge a few percent and then top itself off again
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HTC handles charging differently than others. That is normal, don't worry about it. It will discharge a few percent and then top itself off again
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I know about the discharge but its the fact that it takes so long to hit a 100% from 99% .
But thanks for the reply I know you have to be busy with all your development.
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linsalata28 said:
I know about the discharge but its the fact that it takes so long to hit a 100% from 99% .
But thanks for the reply I know you have to be busy with all your development.
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Mine does that weird part about it is when it dead dead and you throw it on the charger for 9hrs it still won't turn green lol.. I may have to let it sit there longer ... When I turn it on says 99% and still charging will hit 100% pretty quick and battery life lasts forever lol... It is normal tho for it to take awhile to hit 100 % and that discharge thing is normal too no worrys man..
Yeah, I guess it's HTC 'method' to charge the battery, although it makes no sense... I thought maybe it was something to do with the stock battery, so I bought 'Platinum' series 1900mAh the other day and it still does the same things....
Not only taking an hour or so to go from 99 to 100 percent, but when I try to 'calibrate' the battery, it takes an additional 5 or 6 hours it seems. I charge it to 100, turn it off, plug it back in, and wait for the green light to come on again.... two or three hours later, it will finally turn green. If I only let it charge for an hour or so and turn it on, the battery will show 95%... absolutely ridiculous. I don't ever remember the Evo being like that. The battery charging on the 3D is just stupid, in my opinion
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So does the Evo 3d use the same charging method as the og evo?
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phyba said:
So does the Evo 3d use the same charging method as the og evo?
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I don't know if they did anything differently, but I definitely don't notice the typical 100-90 drop (or avalanche) like with the EVO.
Simple answer, of course its the same.
long answer..not answering, haha
Of course battery stops charging at 100%. Its full. What do you want it to goto 101%
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You guys know what he means... geeez. the Evo would read 100% when it would actually be anywhere from 90-100% (before the awesome SBC kernels)
I would also like to know how the charging cycles work on the 3D, I would hope it is different.
its not actually going to charge to 100%, these battery's don't do that, hurts the life of the battery.
what does the phone actually say? Can't say I know, but it doesn't really matter what it say's, its still functionally the same.
I guess ill have to test this out and see
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without the battery widget the bar can show at 100% and still be charging till the light turns green.
the battery bar in settings changes too 100% when it reaches 91%
99%-100% takes the longest for the device to register.
The E3D takes longer to charge than my evo with the extended battery
OK. My battery just charged to 100% and I went into battery widget app and it shows that the phone is no longer charging and turns off just like the EVO and starts to discharge...
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ok after a few days i've noticed that the green indicator light comes on when its fully charged. when i power it down to charge i cant seem to get it to turn green... has anyone else experienced this?
Let me see if I can shed some light on this.
When I plug my EVO 3D in, it'll go up to 100% and the red light will turn to green. If I leave it on my charger and check on it a bit later, I notice that the battery % will go down to about 95% and then it'll go back up to 100%.
So from my initial observations, it looks like the kernel is very similar to the EVO 4G's SBC kernels. It's quite possible that it is SBC but I guess we won't be able to completely figure it out until HTC releases the kernel source code.
My .02. Hope this sheds some light for others of you to pay attention to
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Let me see if I can shed some light on this.
When I plug my EVO 3D in, it'll go up to 100% and the red light will turn to green. If I leave it on my charger and check on it a bit later, I notice that the battery % will go down to about 95% and then it'll go back up to 100%.
So from my initial observations, it looks like the kernel is very similar to the EVO 4G's SBC kernels. It's quite possible that it is SBC but I guess we won't be able to completely figure it out until HTC releases the kernel source code.
My .02. Hope this sheds some light for others of you to pay attention to
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This how li-ion batteries are supposed to be charged, sbc kernels prevented it from ever turning the charger off so it kept feeding the battery power after it was at 100%
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Not like sbc, its like the bump charging method.
Og evo went down to 90 then back to 100, so if it only goes down to 95 thats better at least. Sure its not "100" percent of all the battery life... but its 100% of the advertised battery life.
Definitely noticed that it doesn't have that significant drop from overcharging. The battery will stop charging at 100%, discharge, and top off as needed. Much better than what we saw on the Evo.
had battery at 1% , plugged it in , 6 hours later it was at 73%... that normal?
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had battery at 1% , plugged it in , 6 hours later it was at 73%... that normal?
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on USB power? yeah
in ac power ...
last night it was about 37% when i put it on charger 8 hours later its at 98%
it charges fine, no need for sbc
Anyone. Each else noticed that the battery charges strange..
With battery monitor the monitor is all over the place up and down
I know this is a bigger battery.. But did they sprint or htc change how the phone charges?
E3D
Mine doesn't exactly do that, but I swear I have yet to see mine say 100%. It stays at 99 forever and then the light just turns green.
That's how you keep a battery properly charged. You top it off every so often. You will overcharged the battery if you keep pumping it while its at 100%. So you hit 99-100 let it drop to 97-98, rinse and repeat.
Can I get a ROOT canal for my 3vo cavity?
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That's how you keep a battery properly charged. You top it off every so often. You will overcharged the battery if you keep pumping it while its at 100%. So you hit 99-100 let it drop to 97-98, rinse and repeat.
Can I get a ROOT canal for my 3vo cavity?
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No.
Li-Ion batteries and the chargers have a cut off built in that automatically do this to prevent overcharge.
I'll post a screen shot later if i can.. What application allows it with out root.
E3D
Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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Lol lol lol
Bussin Caps from my 3D shooter
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Taking a picturewith your old EVO
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if i had it lol
It's fine, once your phone is at 100% it'll let itself discharge till it is at 95%, and then it will charge back to 100%. It'll keep doing this till it is removed from the charger. Harmless is to say.
Someone already stated the answer in here.
Yeah, something is different though. This morning my phone was plugged in and everything and it hadn't hit the green light yet but just stopped charging. The battery icon didnt show that it was charging like it should while plugged in either. Plugged it in and it eventually started again.
well, my first evo3d woudlnt hit 100 and i let it charge immediatly.
my 2nd evo3d was used right away.. i let it drop to 5% then charged it to 100%.. this time, it actually showed 100% .. now the battery sips down by 1% at a time. feels good.. only problem now is that i have a different screen vs my first 3d.. the whites arent as bright.. feels like the whole damn epson vs novatec again.. grrr
There seems to be some logic in the battery charging algorithm that reduces the draw from the charger when it gets close to 100%. Using battery monitor widget, I can see that it charges at 900ma or so when just plugged in but this drops to a mere 30ma when it's at 99%. That's why it takes forever to get to 100%.
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So i am a recent convert coming from a RAZR and would like to know whats the best way to train the battery. The RAZR was horrible.
What do you mean train it?
I think he means as far as calibrate it from the beginning. Usually when I take a phone outta the box ill let the battery dir from there. No immediate charge. And then ill charge it and let it completely die 3 times. Done that with all my devices in the past few years and usually works like a charm. But when root comes we can add battery tweaks and such. My battery right now isn't too bad, but my EVO 3D was a lil better. I love this frkken phone
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Ah, I just let it die and then charged it all the way up. No issues here!
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Ah, I just let it die and then charged it all the way up. No issues here!
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Nope me either
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The app battery calibration from the market works well too
I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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Because it stops taking charge when its full. Otherwise you would wake up with little pieces of your rezound all over the room .
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Doing one time is probably more helpful than hurtful though.
Yea. Where you should probably run it down low when for the first few charges. I wouldn't totally kill it. Over about a week you should see a little improvement as it settles
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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After flashing a Rom you have to calibrate battery by letting it drain fully and then fully recharge so can't be that hurtful. Now letting it sit at 0% for 5 hours is not such a good idea.
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Grnlantern79 said:
After flashing a Rom you have to calibrate battery by letting it drain fully and then fully recharge so can't be that hurtful. Now letting it sit at 0% for 5 hours is not such a good idea.
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Well u can do that yes. Or u can wipe battery status. Or download battery calibrator from the market.
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Do most of you guys keep your phones plugged in (charging) as long as you are around a USB port/wall outlet or not? Unless I buy a battery booster, I don't like the thought of my phone being any less than topped off in the event that I can't charge it for a while. I'm aware that the battery can't be over-charged, but keeping it at 100% so much of the time doesn't seem like a good way to treat it. :/
Won't hurt it , people in the office have been doing it forever.
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Never let your battery die completely. That puts stress on the battery.
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I think he means as far as calibrate it from the beginning. Usually when I take a phone outta the box ill let the battery dir from there. No immediate charge. And then ill charge it and let it completely die 3 times. Done that with all my devices in the past few years and usually works like a charm. But when root comes we can add battery tweaks and such. My battery right now isn't too bad, but my EVO 3D was a lil better. I love this frkken phone
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Thats what I always do and always recomend.
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I have noticed that when looking in the battery usage monitor it seems that the battery hits full charge then drops to 96% and hits full charge again about ten times a night. Kind of bizarre, and probably contributing to the battery life being shorter. Also noticed that the 2750mah battery is read as 2720mah on multiple extended batteries.
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Thats by design to stop it from over charging and to keep the battery fresh.
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Fully draining the battery is bad news...shortens it's lifespan.
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Every one is quick to say this... But I ask you... By how much? Any hard numbers on that?
My point is... The battery is not going to last forever to begin with. If I get 12 months out of the battery that is 6 months longer than I would have used the device the battery is powering
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Doing one time is probably more helpful than hurtful though.
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Indeed! Every once in a while it will not hurt your battery in a measurable way.
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Never let your battery die completely. That puts stress on the battery.
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Everything you do with your phone stresses your battery.
Point being... As reverepats said... For the first few charges its good to drain it down then full charge it back up. Your not hurting the battery in such a way its going to noticeably shorten the life span.
This by the way doesnt do much for the battery itself... More for the OS. The OS compiles statics on usage, etc... This helps the OS "learn" the battery.
Now to counter point I made above...
The OS will also learn the battery over time... By doing cycle charges you are only speeding it up some. I still recommend cycle charging. I try to do it about once a week.
The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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Yeah, I have heard of others using that method as well.
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The best way to train/calibrate the battery in my opinion is to charge it till the green notification light comes on with the phone on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn off the phone. Once it is completely off plug it back into the charger and charge it until the green notification light comes on. Then unplug the charger from the phone and then turn on the phone. Once the phone is done booting up and everything is loaded and what not then charge it till the green notification light comes on and then unplug it and you have now successfully trained/calibrated your battery.
I did this with my Rezound when I first got it and when I got my extended battery and the phone lasts me 24-36 hours with moderate use and Juice Defender installed. I hope this helps
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But, but, that requires me to leave this beautiful phone turned off for a while, I'm not sure I can survive that torture...
What is the proper way ? I've looked online and people say differently. People say let your battery drop to 15 percent or a little under then fully charge. Then others say let the battery completely run out until the battery dies then fully charge it, but I heard letting the battery completely is bad and not necessary. So what exactly do people when when they say fully discharge or battery manufactures when then say fully discharge a brand new battery then charge?
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Down to atleast 3%. That's how I've done it for years. Every opinion differs though
I always charge my phone when I know I will need a full charge, I never really cared about the battery percentage too much, but I do agree that there is no real wrong way.
It's my understanding that in order to properly calibrate a battery you must completely drain it.
From what I've gathered the battery needs to know what a "full charge" is and the only way to get a full charge is to be completely empty.
So following instructions from threads back on the MT4G forums I calibrate my battery by:
1. Letting it completely die.
2. Turning it back on just to make sure it dies again. And I do this til it won't turn on again.
3. Then charging it, while off, til it has a green light.
4. Then I unplug it, turn it on, turn it off and plug it back in til green.
Whether this really really makes a difference or not...well I can't say for sure
but my battery lasts longer than my sister's Amaze.
Hope that helps.
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I always charge my phone when I know I will need a full charge, I never really cared about the battery percentage too much, but I do agree that there is no real wrong way.
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same with me, I never bother with letting it drain fully, I did with my first phone, and a few months after I got it the battery was pooched, so from then on I never cared. plus with the cost of getting a replacement, or even aftermarket batteries like anker, not following procedure to drain then charge a battery is a no brainer for me.
But, if I did care, then I'd drain it fully, then charge it back up. the percentages on my phone aren't accurate anyway. Actually today I was playing blade master and I kept getting the battery warning, and it was pretty steady from 20 down to 5, then hung there for a while, maybe an extra 15-20 mins, then died. so percentages are approximate. a full drain and then full charge should do.
What the other guy listed in steps is correct, though I'll give you a heads up, the amaze battery is total ***** when it dies completely, so be prepared to have it plugged in alllllllll night for it to charge.
Just got my self a replacement, the battery ended up dying, took me four hours to move 8%, was about to go buy a replacement the next day, but I let it charge overnight, it's been remarkable since then.
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What the other guy listed in steps is correct, though I'll give you a heads up, the amaze battery is total ***** when it dies completely, so be prepared to have it plugged in alllllllll night for it to charge.
Just got my self a replacement, the battery ended up dying, took me four hours to move 8%, was about to go buy a replacement the next day, but I let it charge overnight, it's been remarkable since then.
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Thanks Dark, I love being called "the other guy".
I'm just messin...lol.
Thanks guys for all the feedback will give it a whirl and yea the amaze battery is tough haha.
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Thanks Dark, I love being called "the other guy".
I'm just messin...lol.
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Lol my bad bro, I was just too lazy to scroll up to look for your name.
So, if you would care about calibrating, do you let it die and fully charge every time you flash a ROM? Or just the very first time when it's new?
Seems every battery is different. I let mine die completely and then charge overnight, but had the green light after an hour and half. I let it stay on though overnight.
I personally didn't see a drastic difference.
A lot of folks day to wipe your battery stats as that helps. I have yet to try that.
Just kinda deal with the 8-12 hours I get on ICS. I used to get 12-16 with gingerbread.
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Wiping battery stats doesn't help, IMO, for the number of times I've tested it on a few devices. My results so far just shows that wiping it just fools the device to stay full longer than it should but after the battery passes the 90% physically it starts making rapid drops until it stabilizes somewhere around 50%.
Right now I'm letting the battery die. This is the life on 4g and listening to pandora lol wow. What awesome battery life this is with the brightness at 25 percent and a 2000 mah battery heh.
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Hehe this is just funny.
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Here are some facts, I hope you can find them useful:
http://batteryuniversity.com/learn/article/charging_lithium_ion_batteries
The link was reposted like 10 times already
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Right now I'm letting the battery die. This is the life on 4g and listening to pandora lol wow. What awesome battery life this is with the brightness at 25 percent and a 2000 mah battery heh.
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2000 mah?
Which battery are you using?
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2000 mah?
Which battery are you using?
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Andida for HTC evo 3D got it off eBay though I think I prefer stock
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I'm trying to charge my battery to 100% and it's been sitting at 99% for a good while now. My battery life has been pretty abysmal and I've been trying to figure out if it's the apps I have installed or if it's the actual batter on the phone.
Does anyone know a lot about batteries? Is this normal? Does this mean I should seek a replacement?
So, 99% charge on the 5v/1a charger for a good 20 minutes now, still at 99%.
Phone will die in 6-8 hours.
Sometimes phone shuts off when still reading 4% battery left.
What's the prognosis docs?
Charging from 99% to 100% usually takes a while but even more so on HTC phones. Just give it a while until it shows 100% and the led light turns green.
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Charging from 99% to 100% usually takes a while but even more so on HTC phones. Just give it a while until it shows 100% and the led light turns green.
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It's been an hour lol.
Unplug it then plug it back in, it will jump to 100%.
it does that really slow because it's at a trickle charge above like 95%. so it's not pulling at 1amp anymore, and it slowly hits 100. it's a safety measure so that it doesn't stay at 100% all the time
Yeah, that happens on all phones. It shouldn't take an hour, though. Try what orangechoochoo said, just unplug it and plug it back in.
I know on my ipod and on my friends' iphones, if you unplug it while it's in the 99%-~100% zone it'll drop down to like 90% since it's not "really" charged. I think sometimes the battery % while charging is just a little optimistic.
it might not actually be sitting at 99, unless you've actually just been watching the percentage for the full hour. i've seen on other phones that it will go back and forth bw 99 and 100 once it hits a certain point