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Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
To show you what I mean, I just restarted the phone and killed everything except:
WaveSecure Beta
com.google.android.apps.mapssomething that goes off the screen) - can't kill this
HTC Sense
Touch Input
com.htc.provider
Go back to it 10 minutes later and I also have the following open:
Settings
vizBattery
Wi-Fi Status
Google Mail
Thats without me touching it at all.... if I had also used the Twitter app, Facebook, messaging etc then they would all still be open, the browser and music player would probably be there too.
It's normal fo it to start some apps on its own, for example peep (htc's twitter program) the music player (only if you have a widget on one of the homescreens)
same goes for calander etc etc google mail is push so it has to be opened to recieve messaged realtime.
Things like batterystatus thingy's often drain your battery and sometimes slow down your device I suggest removing that.
Also I don't know about wifi status but can imagine that draining battery to since
I don't think that will be running without your wifi being on. When continuosly searching for networks your device also will slow down, and drain the battery
My english isn't perfect so I hope you understand what I'm saying.
edit: do you use the official t-mobile rom or a custom? Don't know if htc released the last update for t-mob devices. That update really improved almost everything
so if you don't have that it's ''normal'' for the device to lag.
Some apps register themselves to start automatically. Obviously Gmail needs to run if you're syncing a Gmail account.
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
However, for the most part, it doesn't really matter since many of the apps that appear to be "running" will not be consuming any CPU time (and by extension battery life) unless they are designed to run in the background.
In addition, as Stafflover has already said, I'd also suggest you try removing vizBattery - whilst I've no specific experience with this app, I've heard that many battery status widgets drain the battery significantly.
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
There's at least one app (paid) that can override this - I believe it is called Startup Auditor.
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AutoStarts does the same job, also paid. using it for weeks, works great.
programs starting up
gk141054 said:
Hi guys,
Have had my Hero just over a month now and love the thing to bits...
The one thing (battery life aside) that pees me off though is that the phone can be slow at times...
It seems to stem from apps either opening themselves and running in the background, or not closing properly when I select to close them.
I seem to spend half my time using the phone in TaskKiller getting rid of everything that shouldn't be running before I can do anything.
Has anyone got any smart ideas on how I can improve the problems above?
I've also noticed when I switch the phone off and back on a) it improves things slightly, but b) it also runs lots of things that I don't need open so is there a way to stop things running on start up?
Thanks for the help guys.
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Hey Pal! I had the same problem then I got into a bit of app development and understood. Some service need to be "broadcasting" and some other to be "listening". Best you can do is sometimes tell them how often to "wake up and check". But if you think about it, a program MUST be checking on a few things, at least sometimes, to give you the "android experience". Also, no matter how much you care about that number you see in the "free ram" widget (assunming you use taskiller with the widget), it is not very important until it REALLY does slow your phone down. Some apps are worse than others at clogging up or draining your battery: try them, weigh how useful they really are for you and then decide what to keep (running) Ciao!
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
MA14NEY said:
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
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Make your background is always black based, as amolded display doent emit black color... so your background, message , mail the most you use make it in dark background. This will help you save your battery.
download and try different battery saver packages are available in the android market. download and try them for free and you can then stick to the one best suits for you.
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
MA14NEY said:
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
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It's not about the Standby Time, never was. Just check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
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Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
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Nah
ithehappy said:
check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
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My phone was in my pocket doing nothing. I was working and used the display to check the time only, about 4 or 5 times.
10 hours is a pitiful amount of time for a phone to last on standby.
Well, do the step/s I said above, do a Hard Reset before and see how you are going.
I'll try it out and get back to you amigo.
ithehappy said:
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
Also to the OP, check this thread, this has greatly increased my battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144099
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
jonny68 said:
I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
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A friend of mine said the same to me. But I really don't understand why I shall not use ATK when it is giving me a great result? I tried almost everything before, freezing this and that, uninstalling some apps and etc etc..but the Awake bar was constantly getting on at some intervals, but after ATK the story is completely changed. So I'd recommend it highly
ithehappy said:
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
veyka said:
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
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I have the same problem, but my display is taking to much %, but every thing is on low? brightness is very low can some one tell me how to set it down ?? Thank you
Greetzz
Agamennon said:
Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
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Alright, I am disabling the ATK for the moment and installed and set up Juice Defender Ultimate on Customized profile for overnight. I will come back and post how did I find it, over ATK or under.
Regards.
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You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
Also check out the app safe to remove in my sig and consider freeing the samsung bloatware
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You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
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Thanks for the diagnosis. I've went ahead and rooted (about time anyway) to the VillianRom and i'm going to calibrate the battery.
Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
ithehappy said:
You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
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The problem with ATK is that is totally screws with 2.3's task management system, also it will be waking the phone up all the time, the longer the phone can be asleep the better.
MA14NEY said:
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
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Goodo! Im glad to hear its working for you.
with VR2.0 the less time your screen is on the longer you will get, some people have gotten 4-5 day battery life with almost no screen time.
My battery life isn't bad, but it could be better.
The long period of time my screen is off (see pic) is when I went to sleep, it's also when I set my custom ref. In the other pic you can see how many time my phone woke up when it was supposed to be sleeping!
Attached is also my log, it's the paid version with everything ticked, so it should have all the info needed, except I can't make heads nor tails of it.
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My battery life isn't bad, but it could be better.
The long period of time my screen is off (see pic) is when I went to sleep, it's also when I set my custom ref. In the other pic you can see how many time my phone woke up when it was supposed to be sleeping!
Attached is also my log, it's the paid version with everything ticked, so it should have all the info needed, except I can't make heads nor tails of it.
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google is your friend. There are many threads on XDA about BBS and explaining things.
Thanks, but if you can tell by the time i made these logs you can see it was over 12 hours ago, I've spent a good portion of the day trying to figure this out.
I wasn't being a ****, i posted in the q&a section, so while i appreciate your reply, i could do with someone helping me understand this and in turn I'll learn something and maybe not have to ask again.
You went 15 hours and still have 60%, that's insanely good, mine dies in less time than that. Although it seems because you haven't used anything except having the screen on, I use heavier applications constantly.
You could use lowest screen brightness and if you're using stock firmware, disable data when you don't need it, since I figure some of the bloatware apps would want to connect to the internet.
eksasol said:
You went 15 hours and still have 60%, that's insanely good, mine dies in less time than that. Although it seems because you haven't used anything except having the screen on, I use heavier applications constantly.
You could use lowest screen brightness and if you're using stock firmware, disable data when you don't need it, since I figure some of the bloatware apps would want to connect to the internet.
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Yeah, it was overnight though, usually get about 4-5 hours screen time during the day. I'm on check rom with most bloatware disabled and most if not all apps are set to manual sync.
I'm wondering what keeps waking my phone up overnight.
1) Nail the samsung push service com.sec.spp.push
2) Remove any battery monitoring widgets you are using, maybe you have a battery icon on your clock widget, try removing that or something.
Looks like you are using viber, whatsapp and vlingo, so thats 3 big background apps.
I would also be inclined to swap to something other than go launcher as well.
If in doubt ask in the BBS thread here
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1) Nail the samsung push service com.sec.spp.push
2) Remove any battery monitoring widgets you are using, maybe you have a battery icon on your clock widget, try removing that or something.
Looks like you are using viber, whatsapp and vlingo, so thats 3 big background apps.
I would also be inclined to swap to something other than go launcher as well.
If in doubt ask in the BBS thread here
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Thanks very much, I'll have a look at all of this then. Thanks veyka!
Thanks everyone else too.
i am getting terrible battery life on my 5 day old Galaxy 4 for VZ. i have disabled every thing i can, i use twitter, FB, Instagram, syng google and contacts, google keep etc. i cannot get over 1.5 hours screen on time, and it drains when idle also. i get maybe 7 hours total..
i want to love and keep this but man, i am getting gnex battery life with it. i have read so many good reviews on the battery life but something is up.
any ideas??? would rooting and installing like clean rom help?
Questions and help issues go in Q&A and Help section
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FNM
Rooting and apps like Greenify.
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The phone probably never sleeps the way you have it set up. All that stuff syncs in the background and therefore never lets the phone sleep. Stuff you don't have to know about constantly you should either turn off sync and manually sync it or try making it sync like say every hours or 4 hours not every 15 min. Honestly there are maybe 30-50 things that can cause your battery drain from a stock device that is new. But that is where i would start.
Also, make sure your GPS is off and your not using location services from VZW but just the normal google.
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The phone probably never sleeps the way you have it set up. All that stuff syncs in the background and therefore never lets the phone sleep. Stuff you don't have to know about constantly you should either turn off sync and manually sync it or try making it sync like say every hours or 4 hours not every 15 min. Honestly there are maybe 30-50 things that can cause your battery drain from a stock device that is new. But that is where i would start.
Also, make sure your GPS is off and your not using location services from VZW but just the normal google.
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great info....so what about some of the apps that people have said to install? i dont really want to root..especially since there is NO recovery...
also..i checked and i did notice it was awake allot, and GOOGLE CONTACTS took ALLOT of kernal usage..
Honestly I dont like apps used to control other apps. That means they run in thr background causing cpu cycles... hence waking the phone.
if youre not going to root, then go into the app manager and disable what you dont use and what youre able to. Not all apps are disablable. I even disable maps untill I need it
I noticed a lot of battery drain with my rooted ME7 version. Greenify helped but what really worked for me is this: Go to System Settings>More>Location Services and disable Wi-Fi & mobile network location (Google Location Services). Use VZW and Standalone GPS only. It may take your apps a tad bit longer to display your GPS position but you'll gain a lot of battery life. My GPS is always on, sync everything including 2 different Google accounts (all at the shortest interval) and have the other usual things running, ie. Facebook, Google Voice, Weather Bug, Go SMS, etc.
You've got wake locks and need to determine what they are. Read this, it should help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31974989
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Rooting and apps like Greenify.
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Yes , I Agree ! :good:
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Yes , I Agree ! :good:
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I use greenify on all my phones!
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It's not as hard as you think...
dvigue said:
great info....so what about some of the apps that people have said to install? i dont really want to root..especially since there is NO recovery...
also..i checked and i did notice it was awake allot, and GOOGLE CONTACTS took ALLOT of kernal usage..
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If you don't want to root, there's not a lot you can do as far as wakelocks. However, I would download Macrodroid and set up some profiles that turn off everything (sync, data, wifi, bluetooth) when you turn your screen off, control your syncing to once an hour or hour and a half, and turn on your data/wifi when you turn your screen back on - or rather, when you unlock it. This simple task will take you less than 20 minutes and will save you hours of battery life. Like others said, disable GPS unless you absolutely need it. Also, I would turn off a lot of the gitchy features (air gesture, air view, multi windo, smart scroll, smart stay) all that crap that is cool to use once or twice but just eats your battery like crazy.
If you choose to get Macrodroid and want help setting up the profiles, let me know. Good luck. By the way, that doubled my battery life. Once I rooted, controlled the wakelocks and bought a zerolemon 7500 battery, I can actually get over 3 days of usage with something like 9 hours of screen time.
Edit: Found two pics to prove the above claim...
There is an issue with the latest list so don't copy it completely. I got a bootloop after restarting my phone today and I had to factory reset... this is as of 10/8/16 at 12:50pm. The list from the 5th of October on back should be fine. I'm currently trying to sort out the issue.
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Here is a list of apps and services which can be disabled on the Note 7 while still maintaining stability; Data, Calling, Texting, MMS, Wi-Fi, Tethering, Bluetooth, GPS, Sync, Camera, EQ, HD Calling, Always On and all the S-Pen features work, but most other things are turned off like Fingerprint, Iris, NFC, Edge Panel, Pay Services, etc... This list isn't meant to be copied exactly by everyone because we all use our devices differently but you can pick and choose what you want to get the optimal performance from your device.
As of 10/6/16 I have 180+ apps and services disabled and today I got over 8 hours of SOT with 11% battery left (over 9 hours projected of SOT based on the days' usage). I didn't use any power saving modes and kept my brightness at a reasonable level so using the device was easy and not annoying due to the brightness being so low. I had location and sync enabled and wasn't doing any unnatural things trying to squeeze out as much battery life as I could. This was real world usage with all the necessary features and background processes running so using the device felt natural and functional. I say this so people don't think I fudged these numbers by doing things like letting my phone sit with the screen on while at the lowest brightness and not using it, or that I was using some power saving modes to squeeze out as much life as possible. My phone ran at full power all day. I've never even toggled power saving mode on my phone before.
Due to XDA's limit on the amount of image uploads I'm going to create two post with the complete list of disabled apps and link them here in the OP.
I'm using EZ Package Disabler (Samsung) from the play store to disable these apps and services. I bought that one because it had the highest rating.
Below here are some updates I posted during the process of figuring out what to disable. The post with the latest date is always going to have the most current and relevant information.
9/30/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68930083&postcount=16
10/2/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68950934&postcount=23
10/3/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972097&postcount=26 / http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68972131&postcount=27
10/5/16 - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=68999679&postcount=33
[UNSTABLE something in this list caused me to bootloop]10/6/16 - 184 Disabled Apps & Services List Part 1 Here and Part 2 Here XML Export File List Here
Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Why do you bother to own this phone when you disable most of what makes this phone so great? It has a tonne of RAM, tonne of storage, not sure what you are trying to achieve by disabling so much?
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Actually, most of the features are still there. I bought it for the S-pen features and all that is still there. Did you go through the list and see what I turned off or are you just replying to reply? If you read my OG post you'd see I said that my goal was to keep the functionality of the device.
This phone is loaded with bloat and useless services and apps that most will never use. All these things can cause battery drain, cpu usage, ram usage, hardware heat, among other things. So why not turn off what is not needed? It doesn't matter how much ram the phone has, why run stuff that doesn't need to run since you aren't using it?
Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, Samsung cloud (much more useful than Google backup as it supports call logs, sms and other recoveries), the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Fingerprint,shealth, Android pay, software updating, iris scanner, gmail, standard email, game launcher, the emergency alerts, car mode(for operating in car potentially with different launcher suitable for vehicle use) the list goes on and on and I did look, I don't post for no reason.
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Like I said, I bought it for the S-pen features. What I disabled I don't use and have no use for. Also If I want to use them at any time I can just reenable them. So let's go through your list. Fingerprint, I use swipe or a pin or a pattern. S-health, I use google fit, or nothing since I don't need a smartphone to tell me how to be fit. Android pay, I use cash. Software updating, if I want an update I can manually grab it, I don't need a service running constantly checking for them. Iris scanner, it's stupid and I'll never use it. Gmail, I use inbox and Alto. Standard email, I only have gmail accounts so don't need other email services. Game launcher, I don't play games. Emergency Alerts, seriously? You are just looking for things to justify your post, EA's are useless and annoying when they pop up and have never benefited me once. Car mode, I have no use for it since I drive a 2000 windstar minivan and waze provides me with all I need in a car. Also, you didn't name one thing that makes this phone great but rather things that are basically on all Android's. Again, I bought the phone for the S-pen, all that is still there. Why are you even doing this? your post are as useless as the apps and services I disabled.
Troll flushed where it belongs. Goodbye, no need to be so rude about it.
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It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
bonerp said:
It may be more useful to state what battery usage difference has been found / before and after
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Totally agree. I will try testing N7 when I get mine. First factory reset it out of the box (maybe get the update first then factory reset it with recovery). After that set it up keep all apps and see how battery is... the try the disabler I loke to debloat because phone looks much more cleaner then. And any debloat list is totally personal that why I used TB on my rooted devices, this time won't rush to root
Just disable the damn phone, turn it off and stop using it lol
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Why all the hate?
I really don't get when people post about disabling certain features that others get upset. Or use power saver, etc.
This is one of the great things about Android, the ability to customize and mod our phones to our liking. Try doing any of these things with an Iphone, you can't. So this particular user wants to disable Gmail and messages because he uses other services (Inbox is awesome). He reports back that things still seem stable? Great! I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
Let's talk about the great features we have, which include the ability to replace core apps if we desire. Don't jump on someone for doing so.
A mouse running into a room at a party doesn't cause chaos, how people react to it does. We are all responsible for our own actions. You don't like how someone else customizes their phone, who cares? Move on to the next post.
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jmitr said:
Why all the hate? I am interested in updates to see if he runs into any problems etc
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Used the phone very heavy today and ran into no real issues. I had to reenable one service because I tried to use the built-in EQ and it made settings crash. I was able to find the cause in less than a minute and reenable it The service that needs to run for the EQ to work is "SoundAlive" on page 8.
Also got 2.75 hours of SOT and 3 hours of gps use and was right at 50% battery left. At the end of tomorrow I'm going to post some screenshots.
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
Mdizzle1 said:
Thanks for the list OP, I probably won't be disabling as much as you have but it's great to know what I can kill without messing up the phone. (when I finally get it)
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No problem. I plan on trying to get more added to the list. Once I know what I've added so far is safe and doesn't cause any issues I'll slowly add more.
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
Smithfolk4 said:
I appreciate the list too. It is good to know what can be safely disabled and then we can decide what we want to keep or give the heave ho.
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I've done another day of heavy use today and I'm very happy with my results. I had over 3 hours of SOT using auto brightness which stayed on max brightness most of the time since I was outside and I still had over 40% (I estimate I was on track to get very close to 6 hours SOT with max auto brightness!!!) battery left when I got home. I also used GPS for about an hour along with installing app, and constantly doing other stuff on the phone. I'm going to update the OP with some more screenshots. But from these past two full days of very heavy use and no force closes or issues to speak of (other than having to turn SoundAlive back on for the EQ to work) I'm going to say what I've disabled so far is safe and causes no dependency issues. Also, the phone runs very smooth and doesn't get hot at all. Even today with basically 3 straight hours of SOT and max auto brightness the phone never heated up.
Oh! I'm at 101 things disabled now (not including my downloaded disabled apps) which is how I ran it all day today. More to come! Once I feel like I've found everything I can disable safely I'll do a new updated OP with all I found.
9/30/16 screenshots just showing some battery and cpu use stats. In the future I'm going to add some temp stats. If anyone has a good app for monitoring temps let me know even if it's paid. I don't mind buying apps that are good and useful.
Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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Awesome the list is identical to what I disabled excluding iris, finger print, Samsung app store, gmail and sound alive. I can tell my phone lasts longer on a single charge and everything works just as if everything were enabled. For some odd reason I don't like seeing my RAM going over 2GB lol I know I know unused memory is a waste in Android OS.
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I've always hated automation. I can't stand things running without my permission! I've had all startup programs on windows disabled since 2003 Back in the day on Windows XP I got my active running services in task manager to below 20. I'm now at 101 things disabled on the note 7 and I know there is a ton more I can turn off but I'm going about things slowly. I've confirmed that the 101 things I've turned off so far are safe and the phone definitely runs better in every way.
As far as the ram theories and myths about Android it's mostly people repeating their misunderstandings. Of course if you are using the apps in the ram a lot it's good for them to be there because they will load faster but if you are never using those apps and services and they are still sitting in your ram then it's not productive and a waste of resources which will cause the phone to not run optimally. These phones (and computers) come preloaded with tons of stuff running because they are targeted at the average user and not at the power/informed users. Anyone who knows much of anything about computers and how they are setup from the factory knows they are not configured for performance but rather a balance between performance and usability. Of course Android is getting better and better at managing apps and putting them to sleep but there still is nothing better than completely disabling things you don't need and will never use and thereby freeing up resources you can use for things you are actually using...wow! what a concept, have resources there to use for things you actually use! Genius! People seem to act like having ram full just for the sake of having it full is a good thing in Android when that is completely false. Even Android likes to have resources free that it can use for other things.
142 disabled apps and services
So I'm now sitting at 142 things disabled. I'm going to run my current setup for a couple days and see how it goes. I'll report back the results. Hopefully in a week or so I'll have a full list of what can be turned off without having issues.
Looking forward to your end results. Thank You for sharing your experience debloating.