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I am completely new at this, I read that some say the battery drains too quickly over night while in sleep mode (running the vegan 5.1 rom), even when wifi, sync, etc. were shut off. Has anyone else experienced this? How is this compared with iPad? Thanks!
I'm too a bit concern about this issue. Does this problem occur on Vegan ROM only or other ROMs?
What about standard ROM?
Why not just plug it in overnight? Seems easy enough...
Well, it's all about convenience. I just don't want to remember to keep thingy plugged in overnight, every night...
With average usage about couple hours per day - single charge should lasts for 5 days.
Vlad_z said:
Well, it's all about convenience. I just don't want to remember to keep thingy plugged in overnight, every night...
With average usage about couple hours per day - single charge should lasts for 5 days.
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Understood...
I had to retrain myself when I got my HTC Incredible. I keep a charger at work, home and in both vehicles so I always have power available when I need it. Once I rooted, installed Hydra Kernel and got rid of the bloatware my battery uptime was significantly improved.
I suppose the bloatware on the stock ROM would cause some battery drain that would be helped by a custom ROM or at least removing the bloatware that you do not need.
Yup, that's the question. Which ROM has least amount of bloatware...
bcampbe7 said:
Once I rooted, installed Hydra Kernel and got rid of the bloatware my battery uptime was significantly improved.
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Whats the hydra kernel?
Depends on what you consider bloatware
VEGAn is pretty clean if you ask me, but I did stream line it a bit for battery life.
System app remover is awesome. No more using terminal to pull apks manually.
I Yank out the tts (text to speech) stuff
I pull streetview and gmaps (I can get directions from gmaps online if I need them)
I pull email and Gmail (the galaxy tab email port runs my Hotmail and Gmail from one app and I can tell it to never check unless I press the check button)
I pull the news and weather app (I can control update regularity with beautiful Widgets to sync once an hour as apposed to once a min with stock)
I gut out the stock browser and launcher after replacing them with dolphin HD and launcher pro.
There are more but since I already pulled them I can't exactly check
I get amazing battery life this way. If I shut it down when I'm done with it I can make it last all week on one charge at about 3-4 hours of moderate use a day.
I can use it all day heavily and put it to sleep at night and still wake up with 30+% battery.
Looks like gTab never goes truly asleep, just turned screen off. Some apps continue to work.
Thank you, I will give the systemapp remover a try.
This is where the Ipad and the Gpad are totally different. I can charge the ipad to 100% and wifi wll be turned on and I can turn it on a week later and the battery will be at 99%. The gpad with wifi turned off will be down to nothing in just a couple of days. Like someone said the thing is never off. I hate having to keep it plugged in all the time.
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This is where the Ipad and the Gpad are totally different. I can charge the ipad to 100% and wifi wll be turned on and I can turn it on a week later and the battery will be at 99%. The gpad with wifi turned off will be down to nothing in just a couple of days. Like someone said the thing is never off. I hate having to keep it plugged in all the time.
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Under settings / about look at battery usage and you should be able to see what is using your battery.
I used system app remover to take out all my reduntant apps (launcher, browser, music player, ect) and set my wifi to turn off when the screen turns off and now my gtab just sips the battery.
I went to bed with it at 41% last night and checked it this morning as I was about to leave for work (8 hours later) and the battery was at 35%! Before I was losing almost 20% a night so this is a HUGE difference!
I'm going to try to optimize a little more when I get home. The only app running that I dont really need is the Amazon Market so I may get rid of that and see if that helps any. My goal is to get it to .5% battery drain per hour.
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I used system app remover to take out all my reduntant apps (launcher, browser, music player, ect) and set my wifi to turn off when the screen turns off and now my gtab just sips the battery.
I went to bed with it at 41% last night and checked it this morning as I was about to leave for work (8 hours later) and the battery was at 35%! Before I was losing almost 20% a night so this is a HUGE difference!
I'm going to try to optimize a little more when I get home. The only app running that I dont really need is the Amazon Market so I may get rid of that and see if that helps any. My goal is to get it to .5% battery drain per hour.
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The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
.5% is a good goal. Still tinkering myself and have it arround .7% but I know .5% is not out of reach.
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The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
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I use a widget called "Power Widget", which provides a one button on/off for many settings including wifi. This is the free version: https://market.android.com/details?id=at.abraxas.powerwidget.free&feature=search_result
Mantara said:
The wifi settings took a while for me to find so if anyone wants to know hit menu while in wifi connections & settings and hit advanced.
.5% is a good goal. Still tinkering myself and have it arround .7% but I know .5% is not out of reach.
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Setting the wifi to turn off with the screen is a HUGE power saver. When my gtab was draining a lot of battery I looked up the battery usage statistics and the wifi was using almost as much as the system idle!
I think right now I'm hovering at about .8% battery drain. I might turn off my RSS widget since I mainly use Pulse as my news source now. .5% here I come!
Well, I set WiFi policy to Off when screen is off and use Task Killer to shutdown every running process before putting tablet asleep and still battery loosing charge from 91% down to 77% in about 10 hours.
So, my numbers are about 1.4% per hour when gtab in "sleep" mode.
I check WiFi router and can see that gTab does switch WiFi off...
Question about that system app remover. How it removes redundant apps (say like stock email, music player, google search) from read-only system partition?
I thought that the only way to remove them is to rebuild and then re-flash ROM without those apps.
That's why apps like "Advanced Task Killer" etc. only kill processes from memory, but then Android re-launch them again.
I understand, that for phone not to fall deep into sleep is a feature, but for a tablet it's just a waste...
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Question about that system app remover. How it removes redundant apps (say like stock email, music player, google search) from read-only system partition?
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I installed "SystemApp Remover". It lists the apps in 2 categories "Regular Apps" and "System Apps". Regular apps are the ones you can remove normally without this app; the ones under "System Apps" are the build-in ones that you can not remove using the usual method. Once you select "System Apps", choose "Assist" in settings, and the app will highlight the system apps in 3 colors - green, yellow, red. Green=ok to remove; yellow=maybe ok to remove; red=removal not recommended.
I suggest you know what you're removing even for the green ones. The name of the app usually tells or just Google it. You can also back it up in settings before the removal.
I have removed some, not enough to test for results yet, but I've seen a few positive feedback from others. Just be careful while doing it, that's all.
Interesting, what is the most "power hungry" or better say - "refusing go to sleep" application?
I understand, this tests might be tedious to do. I think that the best candidates are those who are restarted on its own after Task Killer killed them..
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Interesting, what is the most "power hungry" or better say - "refusing go to sleep" application?
I understand, this tests might be tedious to do. I think that the best candidates are those who are restarted on its own after Task Killer killed them..
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Try "SystemPanel", it has a function that monitors which app uses the battery the most. According to its description, the monitor function uses about 1 minute of battery if it runs for a full day. And, the monitor function can be turned off and nothing else would run in the background from SystemPanel. There is a Free version as well.
Hi
Been reading around but I'm still not sure on a few things.
I just got this phone and I'm trying to make the most of it by removing services that i don't use so i can have a longer battery life.
Whenever i go to Settings > Applications > Running Services
i always notice apps in there that i'm not even using.. and when i try force close they dont stay closed, they keep reopening.
Social Hub (1process and 1 service)
what is this? i don't use Samsungs "Social Hub"
Email
why does this run? why does it run automatically after i close it? i don't use the Email App, i prefer the Gmail app.
Digital Clock
I dont use any clock widgets, the only clock on my SII is the normal clock at the top and the one used in the lock screen?
Any help would be appreciated, if possible i would like to keep the phone unrooted... or am i gonna have to root afterall?
cheers, highly appreciated.
Hey,
Sorry to tell you but as far as I know you need to root if you want to freeze/uninstall unwanted Samsung bloatware.
You can use Titanium Backup Pro for this.
hmm, do these services eat battery much? because i don't really want to root the device. They can sit there in the background aslong as it's not a major difference to battery :\
Rekuja said:
hmm, do these services eat battery much? because i don't really want to root the device. They can sit there in the background aslong as it's not a major difference to battery :\
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I'm afraid so,but you have to decide for yourself if battery life is good enough
for you.
I for example use Cognition ROM without all the Samsung apps and have pretty good battery life 3% usage during night with wifi on.
did u use email? or did you use only gmail?
i mean is email setuped?
Hi
I have never opened the Email ap, and i dont use any Social Hub stuff yet the services keep opening...
i use Gmail only, email app is not setup.
the best thing to prove to yourself that these apps are not doing anything is to install system panel the paid version which has monitoring function that tracks all apps that touch the CPU. enable monitoring and check your list, these apps should not show up at all. this is how you can see what is using resources or not.
Hey cheers for that, really appreciate it.
I have read that new batteries don't really last long but after the first 4-5 charges they last a little longer?
My S II can go a full day with moderate use and still have 10-15% battery left before i go back to sleep, so i guess I'm doing ok?
gone are the days when phones would last a week or two lol.
yes all my new phones seemed to require the battery to be broken in and would take a full week before it finally lasted long. or at least stopped draining so incredibly quick. seems to be about a week is the sweet spot before it improves.
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
MA14NEY said:
Hi guys, a little information required.
I've had my GSII for about two weeks now and I love it. The one problem, however, is battery life.
I only get 10 hours on standby....!
My phone is not rooted and I have not made any modifications to bootloaders or such. My flatmate has the same phone and he can easily be getting 30+ hours with moderate use.
I have read some of the threads about battery life but was unsure if the problems (and solutions) were applicable to my situation.
I have tried a different battery so I know it's not the battery.
All help and information will be appreciated!
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Make your background is always black based, as amolded display doent emit black color... so your background, message , mail the most you use make it in dark background. This will help you save your battery.
download and try different battery saver packages are available in the android market. download and try them for free and you can then stick to the one best suits for you.
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
MA14NEY said:
Thanks for the replies.
How is it that in Engadget's review they lay claim to 20 hours of battery whilst using wifi etc and my phone can only manage 10 on standby with no wifi activated and refreshes are set to half-hourly...
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It's not about the Standby Time, never was. Just check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
MA14NEY said:
Something seems to be fundamentally wrong with my phone.
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Nah
ithehappy said:
check how long your display is on for, if it's above 4 or 4½ hours then you are in good postition.
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My phone was in my pocket doing nothing. I was working and used the display to check the time only, about 4 or 5 times.
10 hours is a pitiful amount of time for a phone to last on standby.
Well, do the step/s I said above, do a Hard Reset before and see how you are going.
I'll try it out and get back to you amigo.
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1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
Also to the OP, check this thread, this has greatly increased my battery life.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1144099
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
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I agree with all your suggestions except the first one, it is not recommended to use a task killer at all.
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A friend of mine said the same to me. But I really don't understand why I shall not use ATK when it is giving me a great result? I tried almost everything before, freezing this and that, uninstalling some apps and etc etc..but the Awake bar was constantly getting on at some intervals, but after ATK the story is completely changed. So I'd recommend it highly
ithehappy said:
1- Start using Advanced Task Killer aka ATK. Try the Free version from market first, if you like it then buy the paid one. It has worked splendidly well for me.
If you want to do it the hard way then the followings,
2- Root your phone, install Titanium Backup/Pro and Freeze/Uninstall the programs which are useless and you don't use. Apps like AP Mobile, SNS Accounts, Software Update always searches for update.
3- Make sure to Turn Off Wi-Fi, 3G, Packet Data, Auto Sync, Background Data when not needed.
4- Try to keep Manual refreshing in the application rather than Automatic refreshment.
5- Keep as low as possible widgets. More widgets equal to more battery drainage.
6- Install an app called Battery Calibration by Nema from and Calibrate the battery. It's a MUST step imo.
Regards.
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Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
veyka said:
Don't use ATK, you shouldn't need it
Post screenshots of settings > about > battery usage. Of both of the battery graph and the list of %'s.
Its most likely that something is keeping the phone from going to sleep, what rom version are you using? (in settings>about "build number"/"kernel version"/"baseband version")
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I have the same problem, but my display is taking to much %, but every thing is on low? brightness is very low can some one tell me how to set it down ?? Thank you
Greetzz
Agamennon said:
Remove Advanced Task Killer, insert JUICE DEFENDER or GREEN POWER ... go i know you need it!!
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Alright, I am disabling the ATK for the moment and installed and set up Juice Defender Ultimate on Customized profile for overnight. I will come back and post how did I find it, over ATK or under.
Regards.
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You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
Also check out the app safe to remove in my sig and consider freeing the samsung bloatware
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veyka said:
You have the stock email client wakelock problem, as you can see the phone is not sleeping
Upgrade to a KF2 or KG1 rom and it should be better.
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Thanks for the diagnosis. I've went ahead and rooted (about time anyway) to the VillianRom and i'm going to calibrate the battery.
Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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Is there an e-mail client I can use that won't have this problem...?
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You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
ithehappy said:
You can try K-9 Mail or Kaiten Mail. They aren't bad . But I frankly yet to find a good email client, tried those I said, and also, MailDroid, Enhanced Email, but none of them suited me. Finally back with stock GMail and Email.
***Update from my side,***
Installed Juice Defender Ultimate last night with Night Mode enabled on Customise profile and disabled ATK and at today morning I noticed there was no battery drain, it was 31% last night and the same today morning after 9 hours. With ATK it was around 2-3%. So far so good, but I will wait and see further.
I have a query, does the Preset work in JD? What preset is advised? Extreme or Advanced? or else to save more juice?
Regards.
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The problem with ATK is that is totally screws with 2.3's task management system, also it will be waking the phone up all the time, the longer the phone can be asleep the better.
MA14NEY said:
I've started using K-9 Mail.
Everything seems to be working fab now: Fully charged last night and then calibrated the battery.
Lost 5% in 10 hours 30min with sync set to half hourly!
Well pleased.
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Goodo! Im glad to hear its working for you.
with VR2.0 the less time your screen is on the longer you will get, some people have gotten 4-5 day battery life with almost no screen time.
i am getting terrible battery life on my 5 day old Galaxy 4 for VZ. i have disabled every thing i can, i use twitter, FB, Instagram, syng google and contacts, google keep etc. i cannot get over 1.5 hours screen on time, and it drains when idle also. i get maybe 7 hours total..
i want to love and keep this but man, i am getting gnex battery life with it. i have read so many good reviews on the battery life but something is up.
any ideas??? would rooting and installing like clean rom help?
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FNM
Rooting and apps like Greenify.
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The phone probably never sleeps the way you have it set up. All that stuff syncs in the background and therefore never lets the phone sleep. Stuff you don't have to know about constantly you should either turn off sync and manually sync it or try making it sync like say every hours or 4 hours not every 15 min. Honestly there are maybe 30-50 things that can cause your battery drain from a stock device that is new. But that is where i would start.
Also, make sure your GPS is off and your not using location services from VZW but just the normal google.
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The phone probably never sleeps the way you have it set up. All that stuff syncs in the background and therefore never lets the phone sleep. Stuff you don't have to know about constantly you should either turn off sync and manually sync it or try making it sync like say every hours or 4 hours not every 15 min. Honestly there are maybe 30-50 things that can cause your battery drain from a stock device that is new. But that is where i would start.
Also, make sure your GPS is off and your not using location services from VZW but just the normal google.
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great info....so what about some of the apps that people have said to install? i dont really want to root..especially since there is NO recovery...
also..i checked and i did notice it was awake allot, and GOOGLE CONTACTS took ALLOT of kernal usage..
Honestly I dont like apps used to control other apps. That means they run in thr background causing cpu cycles... hence waking the phone.
if youre not going to root, then go into the app manager and disable what you dont use and what youre able to. Not all apps are disablable. I even disable maps untill I need it
I noticed a lot of battery drain with my rooted ME7 version. Greenify helped but what really worked for me is this: Go to System Settings>More>Location Services and disable Wi-Fi & mobile network location (Google Location Services). Use VZW and Standalone GPS only. It may take your apps a tad bit longer to display your GPS position but you'll gain a lot of battery life. My GPS is always on, sync everything including 2 different Google accounts (all at the shortest interval) and have the other usual things running, ie. Facebook, Google Voice, Weather Bug, Go SMS, etc.
You've got wake locks and need to determine what they are. Read this, it should help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=31974989
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Rooting and apps like Greenify.
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Yes , I Agree ! :good:
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Yes , I Agree ! :good:
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I use greenify on all my phones!
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It's not as hard as you think...
dvigue said:
great info....so what about some of the apps that people have said to install? i dont really want to root..especially since there is NO recovery...
also..i checked and i did notice it was awake allot, and GOOGLE CONTACTS took ALLOT of kernal usage..
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If you don't want to root, there's not a lot you can do as far as wakelocks. However, I would download Macrodroid and set up some profiles that turn off everything (sync, data, wifi, bluetooth) when you turn your screen off, control your syncing to once an hour or hour and a half, and turn on your data/wifi when you turn your screen back on - or rather, when you unlock it. This simple task will take you less than 20 minutes and will save you hours of battery life. Like others said, disable GPS unless you absolutely need it. Also, I would turn off a lot of the gitchy features (air gesture, air view, multi windo, smart scroll, smart stay) all that crap that is cool to use once or twice but just eats your battery like crazy.
If you choose to get Macrodroid and want help setting up the profiles, let me know. Good luck. By the way, that doubled my battery life. Once I rooted, controlled the wakelocks and bought a zerolemon 7500 battery, I can actually get over 3 days of usage with something like 9 hours of screen time.
Edit: Found two pics to prove the above claim...
(I'm copying this over from my reddit posts, hope to help some more people, if enough are interested I'll make a video tutorial! P.S. I can't instert my reddit posts links because this is my first XDA post, if anyone looks for them, they are all called "Made my Ticwatch smoother than ever disabling TicSystem via ADB" and you can find them in r/WearOS, r/TicWatch and r/TicwatchOfficial)
So, I don't know if I'm the only one that had this problem, but my Ticwatch Pro was laggy as hell, barely usable, it frustrated me so much i stopped using it even while wearing it constantly. I had disabled every mobvoi app on my smartwatch and that improved battery life dramatically (Mobvoi account, Mobvoi privacy, TicExercise, TicHealth and so on) the only app i couldn't disable was TicSystem, I could only force stop it, and I had noticed that after stopping it my watch was smoother that it had ever been, but sadly it started again after a couple of minutes and the watch started lagging again, this may as well be caused by the TicSystem looking for all the apps i had disabled using all the cpu, but i couldn't give up the battery life I got disabling them, so I sat down and tried to find a solution.
And I did! I found a way to disable TicSystem via adb, and now my Ticwatch Pro runs perfectly smooth, this probably works on all ticwatch models but I haven't tried, and it's also extemely easy.
Before the tutorial I'll give you a disclaimer, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, I DON'T KNOW IF DOING THIS CAN DAMAGE YOUR WATCH IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS STOPS OTA UPDATES FROM COMING TO THE WATCH, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OR ANYONE, DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I DON'T TAKE ANY RESPONSABILITY FOR DAMAGE TO YOU, YOUR WATCH, PEOPLE AROUND YOU, DINOSAURS AND TALKING COWS THAT MAY BE EATING GRASS NEAR YOU.
All jokes aside, I'm pretty sure it's fine, it probably will only improve your watch performance dramatically, but if something does happen to somebody, I don't want people blaming me, only do this if you know what you are doing.
So let's start, you'll need a computer, obviously, and your charging cable, you can also use adb over wifi if you are feeling extra fancy and don't want cables lying around, but I haven't tried that.
Go into your watch's settings, system, informations, and touch build number a bunch of times until it says you have become a developer.
Go back in your settings, developer options, and enable ADB debugging. (also enable wifi debug if you are doing this via wifi, but if you are doing it via wifi you probably know what you are doing so i'll just explain cable stuff from now on)
Plug your watch in your pc and allow debugging from that device (a popup will appear on the watch)
Install ADB on your pc if you haven't already, I won't tell you how to, it's full of guides out there, use google or your browser of choice.
Open your command line (type cmd in the windows start bar, this also works on mac, but you have to edit the commands a little, look up an ADB mac tutorial) and check if your watch is connected with:
Code:
adb devices
If your watch shows up, congrats! you are basically done!
Run:
Code:
adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.system.aw
And TicSystem will get disabled, you are now done!
If your watch doesn't show up in adb, google something like "adb device not showing up" and you'll find like a million tutorials.
If you ever want to enable TicSystem back, go in your settings, apps, app details, system apps (at the bottom), TicSystem, and tap "enable", wasn't so difficult, was it?
If someone else tries this, let me know your results! Very curious to know other people's opinions. Have fun, and be kind to eachother!
Edit: a user tried this and made me notice that his default ticwatch watchfaces disappeared, I think this only happens if you disable the "watchface" system app, if you want to keep them don't disable it, but keep in mind that if you disable the other ticwatch apps the steps counter inside the default watches will stop working because it's linked to ticwatch fitness apps, but google fit will still count your steps so it's just the default watchfaces that won't count steps.
Edit2: It's been over a day and the watch feels great, many people in all 3 subs (r/WearOS, r/TicWatch, and r/TicwatchOfficial) gave feedback and said it helped a lot their watches too, i also tried on my father's ticwatch pro and i haven't noticed any problems, but a user made me notice that the ticwatch charging ui disappeared (doesn't bother me, didn't find it useful anyway) but if you want to replace it another user suggested "wear charging widget" on the playstore, he also said it works much better than the default one so there's that, I'll try to keep updating the post and answer everybody on all 3 subs, I'm extremely happy to see all those people enjoy their watches more and more thanks to me, you are all amazing!
Edit3: It's been 12 days since I disabled TicSystem on my watch, and in the meantime I also disabled all the tic apps on another Ticwatch Pro and a Ticwatch S and they are all working great, I haven't found any problems at all, and many people reported imporved performance on every Ticwatch model! No other problems were reported so I'll go ahead and say this is probably going to be the last update, I may make a short video tutorial on youtube if people on XDA request it. For now, I'm extremely happy I got to help so many people and that everybody found new life in their old watches! I hope you all keep being amazing and I want to thank you all for a last time for the awards, all the support and all the kind words I got, have a great day!
I'm running 2 ticwatch E like this from 2 weeks . Battery life is incredible now, at least doubled and the watch is smoot and responsive . Be sure to disable Ticsystem via ADB , it's important , because without doing that you would have no benefit . I didn't diaabled it at first and my battery lasted 8 hours , now I can with no problem reach 20 hourse with a normal use . With an intense one From 7 a.m to 12 p.m with no problem ( no ok google , no tilt to wake). You will only loose the stoch watchfaces and the charging screen , the last one could be sostitute with wear charging widget that works 100 times better
I'm running 2 ticwatch E like this from 2 weeks . Battery life is incredible now, at least doubled and the watch is smoot and responsive . Be sure to disable Ticsystem via ADB , it's important , because without doing that you would have no benefit . I didn't diaabled it at first and my battery lasted 8 hours , now I can with no problem reach 20 hourse with a normal use . With an intense one From 7 a.m to 12 p.m with no problem ( no ok google , no tilt to wake). You will only loose the stoch watchfaces and the charging screen , the last one could be sostitute with wear charging widget that works 100 times better
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I'm happy you found it useful!
Hi, thanks for taking the risk. I already disable most mobvoi apps since the first time I use it, leaving only the watchface and this TicSystem. I am afraid it will cause instability, hence I just leave it there.
Yesterday I try to disable Ticsystem too, and so far I can tell it has better battery life. Usually it will drain 4%/hour while connected to my phone. So in 12 hours interval, it usually consume about 50%. Yesterday test leave me with 60% within 12 hours (40% usage). So it is about 25% better battery life. And I only lose the charging animation which I can deal with it.
I still keep the watchface though, and maybe will remove it if I can stick with another watchface.
Desmanto said:
Hi, thanks for taking the risk. I already disable most mobvoi apps since the first time I use it, leaving only the watchface and this TicSystem. I am afraid it will cause instability, hence I just leave it there.
Yesterday I try to disable Ticsystem too, and so far I can tell it has better battery life. Usually it will drain 4%/hour while connected to my phone. So in 12 hours interval, it usually consume about 50%. Yesterday test leave me with 60% within 12 hours (40% usage). So it is about 25% better battery life. And I only lose the charging animation which I can deal with it.
I still keep the watchface though, and maybe will remove it if I can stick with another watchface.
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If you read edit2, there is an app that gives you the charging animation back!
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If you read edit2, there is an app that gives you the charging animation back!
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Yes, I have read that actually before, but I have no problem with no charging animation, since it is not important. I don't want to add any other unneeded app. I already have the flow in automagic to notify me about the charging and when full. And I can easily design a widget to replace the charging animation if I really need it.
IdrisMC said:
Can this be done on the fossil sports 4s?
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Only ticwatch smartwatches!
IdrisMC said:
Can this be done on the fossil sports 4s?
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No, it won't if with the same packagename. I don't know if fossil have many bloatware or not. But you have to ask others for the test. Disabling system app is very dangerous, it can cause bootloop in worst case.
You can try to find the app name and try to match it with the package name from the adb command : pm list packages
All ticwatch bloatware start with com.mobvoi.xxx. fossil must have different package names.
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(I'm copying this over from my reddit posts, hope to help some more people, if enough are interested I'll make a video tutorial! P.S. I can't instert my reddit posts links because this is my first XDA post, if anyone looks for them, they are all called "Made my Ticwatch smoother than ever disabling TicSystem via ADB" and you can find them in r/WearOS, r/TicWatch and r/TicwatchOfficial)
So, I don't know if I'm the only one that had this problem, but my Ticwatch Pro was laggy as hell, barely usable, it frustrated me so much i stopped using it even while wearing it constantly. I had disabled every mobvoi app on my smartwatch and that improved battery life dramatically (Mobvoi account, Mobvoi privacy, TicExercise, TicHealth and so on) the only app i couldn't disable was TicSystem, I could only force stop it, and I had noticed that after stopping it my watch was smoother that it had ever been, but sadly it started again after a couple of minutes and the watch started lagging again, this may as well be caused by the TicSystem looking for all the apps i had disabled using all the cpu, but i couldn't give up the battery life I got disabling them, so I sat down and tried to find a solution.
And I did! I found a way to disable TicSystem via adb, and now my Ticwatch Pro runs perfectly smooth, this probably works on all ticwatch models but I haven't tried, and it's also extemely easy.
Before the tutorial I'll give you a disclaimer, I'M NOT AN EXPERT, I DON'T KNOW IF DOING THIS CAN DAMAGE YOUR WATCH IN ANY WAY, SHAPE OR FORM, I DON'T KNOW IF THIS STOPS OTA UPDATES FROM COMING TO THE WATCH, I DON'T KNOW ANYTHING OR ANYONE, DO THIS AT YOUR OWN RISK, I DON'T TAKE ANY RESPONSABILITY FOR DAMAGE TO YOU, YOUR WATCH, PEOPLE AROUND YOU, DINOSAURS AND TALKING COWS THAT MAY BE EATING GRASS NEAR YOU.
All jokes aside, I'm pretty sure it's fine, it probably will only improve your watch performance dramatically, but if something does happen to somebody, I don't want people blaming me, only do this if you know what you are doing.
So let's start, you'll need a computer, obviously, and your charging cable, you can also use adb over wifi if you are feeling extra fancy and don't want cables lying around, but I haven't tried that.
Go into your watch's settings, system, informations, and touch build number a bunch of times until it says you have become a developer.
Go back in your settings, developer options, and enable ADB debugging. (also enable wifi debug if you are doing this via wifi, but if you are doing it via wifi you probably know what you are doing so i'll just explain cable stuff from now on)
Plug your watch in your pc and allow debugging from that device (a popup will appear on the watch)
Install ADB on your pc if you haven't already, I won't tell you how to, it's full of guides out there, use google or your browser of choice.
Open your command line (type cmd in the windows start bar, this also works on mac, but you have to edit the commands a little, look up an ADB mac tutorial) and check if your watch is connected with:
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adb devices
If your watch shows up, congrats! you are basically done!
Run:
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adb shell pm disable-user --user 0 com.mobvoi.wear.system.aw
And TicSystem will get disabled, you are now done!
If your watch doesn't show up in adb, google something like "adb device not showing up" and you'll find like a million tutorials.
If you ever want to enable TicSystem back, go in your settings, apps, app details, system apps (at the bottom), TicSystem, and tap "enable", wasn't so difficult, was it?
If someone else tries this, let me know your results! Very curious to know other people's opinions. Have fun, and be kind to eachother!
Edit: a user tried this and made me notice that his default ticwatch watchfaces disappeared, I think this only happens if you disable the "watchface" system app, if you want to keep them don't disable it, but keep in mind that if you disable the other ticwatch apps the steps counter inside the default watches will stop working because it's linked to ticwatch fitness apps, but google fit will still count your steps so it's just the default watchfaces that won't count steps.
Edit2: It's been over a day and the watch feels great, many people in all 3 subs (r/WearOS, r/TicWatch, and r/TicwatchOfficial) gave feedback and said it helped a lot their watches too, i also tried on my father's ticwatch pro and i haven't noticed any problems, but a user made me notice that the ticwatch charging ui disappeared (doesn't bother me, didn't find it useful anyway) but if you want to replace it another user suggested "wear charging widget" on the playstore, he also said it works much better than the default one so there's that, I'll try to keep updating the post and answer everybody on all 3 subs, I'm extremely happy to see all those people enjoy their watches more and more thanks to me, you are all amazing!
Edit3: It's been 12 days since I disabled TicSystem on my watch, and in the meantime I also disabled all the tic apps on another Ticwatch Pro and a Ticwatch S and they are all working great, I haven't found any problems at all, and many people reported imporved performance on every Ticwatch model! No other problems were reported so I'll go ahead and say this is probably going to be the last update, I may make a short video tutorial on youtube if people on XDA request it. For now, I'm extremely happy I got to help so many people and that everybody found new life in their old watches! I hope you all keep being amazing and I want to thank you all for a last time for the awards, all the support and all the kind words I got, have a great day!
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Sounds interesting, I'm giving it a try! Could this work keeping tic heart rate and tic exercise enabled? I mean, I disabled it correctly, but will it improve my experience anyway?
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Sounds interesting, I'm giving it a try! Could this work keeping tic heart rate and tic exercise enabled? I mean, I disabled it correctly, but will it improve my experience anyway?
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Well, I got a problem: screen won't turn off automatically, I have to flip my arm or to put the palm of my hand over the screen. So, I decided to enable it back and now it's all working properly.
Anyway, I suggest you to enable all cores to have a significant performance boost :laugh: https : // forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/rom-kernel-t3821013
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Sounds interesting, I'm giving it a try! Could this work keeping tic heart rate and tic exercise enabled? I mean, I disabled it correctly, but will it improve my experience anyway?
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Well, I got a problem: screen won't turn off automatically, I have to flip my arm or to put the palm of my hand over the screen. So, I decided to enable it back and now it's all working properly.
Anyway, I suggest you to enable all cores to have a significant performance boost :laugh: https : // forum.xda-developers.com/smartwatch/other-smartwatches/rom-kernel-t3821013
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That is very weird, I haven't had that problem and no one else reported it, and many many people tried this on my reddit posts. What apps did you disable exactly?
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That is very weird, I haven't had that problem and no one else reported it, and many many people tried this on my reddit posts. What apps did you disable exactly?
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I disabled Tic Sistem only, via adb, as suggested in your post. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I disabled Tic Sistem only, via adb, as suggested in your post. Nothing more, nothing less.
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I have no problem disabling that. The only ticwatch app remain enabled at my watch is only the watchface.
Additional test until now, I can say it takes about 40% in 12 hours, approx 3,33%/hour, the best I can get. This translate into about 30 hours max usage. During busy day, it can drain more than that. But I can safely say that even if I left with 70% in the morning, I am pretty sure it can last until I get home at night.
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I have no problem disabling that. The only ticwatch app remain enabled at my watch is only the watchface.
Additional test until now, I can say it takes about 40% in 12 hours, approx 3,33%/hour, the best I can get. This translate into about 30 hours max usage. During busy day, it can drain more than that. But I can safely say that even if I left with 70% in the morning, I am pretty sure it can last until I get home at night.
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Ok I'm giving it another chance Now the screen turns off correctly, what a strange thing since I've done the same procedure. We'll see! I'll keep you informed.
Anyway, do you know if tic system will be automatically re-enabled after system updates?
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Ok I'm giving it another chance Now the screen turns off correctly, what a strange thing since I've done the same procedure. We'll see! I'll keep you informed.
Anyway, do you know if tic system will be automatically re-enabled after system updates?
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Probably you should restart it first at the first try. I restart the watch once in a while, and probably I do that right after I disabled it (forgot already).
I don't see any system updates soon, but it should have stayed disabled. Unless there is a major update and it resets the app preferences.
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Probably you should restart it first at the first try. I restart the watch once in a while, and probably I do that right after I disabled it (forgot already).
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I don't remember if I restarted it yesterday, that could be the reason of the problem! I usually do it, but it could be my fault
Today I restarted it directly from adb since it became unresponsive suddently after disabling the service. Now it seems to be working properly.
Also disabling "Ambient Mode" app makes my Ticwatch PRO faster
Question: if I disable or remove apps via adb, what happens during next software upgrade?
After doing this, the "Ticwatch Power menu" is gone... (holding down the bottom button for 3 seconds)
But if you hold down the top button for like 5 seconds, it will show up the official power menu from Wear OS
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Question: if I disable or remove apps via adb, what happens during next software upgrade?
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Should have stayed disabled. Except if the update reset the app preference, then you can simply disable it again in adb.
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After doing this, the "Ticwatch Power menu" is gone... (holding down the bottom button for 3 seconds)
But if you hold down the top button for like 5 seconds, it will show up the official power menu from Wear OS
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My Ticwatch E doesn't have any menu show up. Only vibrate and launch the Gass. recognition after being holded down 3 seconds. I don't use OK google though.
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Should have stayed disabled. Except if the update reset the app preference, then you can simply disable it again in adb..
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Makes sense if disabled but what if removed?