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Hi,
I tried the iphone 2G trick to get Unlimited data (2G).
I get it, and put back the sim in my SGS2.
And it still get the speed of HSPA
Weird
is it safer now to move to Personal Smartphone dataplan (30 vs 20)
What's the iPhone 2G trick? It'd still be HSDPA speeds as that's what the SIM allows. The phone is restricted to to 2G and the carried will be able to see what speeds you're getting and move you to a limited package if you're not careful.
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Att can call it whatever they want. But for unlocked devices you get unlimited data 2g/3g/H/H+ on your device depending on your carrier and whats available in your area.
I could have got the unlimited non-smartphone plan but I stuck with the 2g iphone plan just incase I ever get an att device I will still have grandfathered unlimited data.
To be on safe side incase you ever use your att upgrade, switch to the grandfathered unlimited 30 plan.
I can't tell from his post but he may be on AT&T in the U.S. They have a dumb-phone unlimited data plan that you can use on a smartphone as long as they don't have the phone's IMEI in their database. A lot of us in the U.S. are using it with the SGS2 and getting HSPA+ speeds for $20 a month including unlimited MMS. Helps offset the ridiculous prices we've paid for the phone.
To future proof your data plan, I would say ge the $30 data plan or stay on the unlimited 2g iphone plan.
There is no point of the iphone 2g trick, if you switch to dumbphone plan.
Sorry, yes i am in us with ATT
Ok I see, so as long as the IMEI is not in ATT database, so i can use it.
If one day our cheer SGS2 has it IMEI in ATT, so my plan may be revoke in worst case or will be grandfather.
So if i want to futur proof at 100% it is better to go to the $30 smartphone plan (I still have my inspire)
Thx
There absolutely no chance att will have an unlocked version uk or anyother non att branded phone in there database.
The only few phones(and small %) were unlocked nexus one and dell streak imei were in att database.
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hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
jerseykat1 said:
hate to bring back a thread thats several months old but i was wondering if the dumbphone plan still works for getting unlocked/UK GS2 phones to have unlimited HSPA+ data?
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Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
ctomgee said:
Yup. I'm on it. Though it is probably throttled. The fastest speed I've gotten is around 6.5mbps, and I average around 3-4.
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Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
jerseykat1 said:
Would you mind sharing your APN settings? are you using the cingular apn settings?
just got my phone and i was originally getting about 3mb down, but now i am getting 1.6 mb down, but it could just be because of the rom that i am running.
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Using wap.cingular. My speed varies quite a bit. 1.6 isn't that bad.
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EDIT: just ran again. got 1.885 down, .999 up. Last 4 results before that are:
4.1 down, 1.05 up
5.36 down, 1.05 up
2.37 down, 1.01 up
2.97 down, 1.13 up.
So, all over the place.
your right, it does vary quite a bit. i was able to get a few 4-5 pulls, then a few 3-4 pulls. So that is fine, still faster then what i am coming from at almost any given time.
Thank you.
Someone had mentioned to me you can pick up this phone, unlock it, and then put it on AT&T with a $10 unlimited data feature phone plan. Has anyone tried this/have any experience with this? If so, could you tell me your experiences with it?
It is my understanding AT&T does sweeps to determine if a phone is a smartphone or not, and automatically upgrades your phone to a data plan if it is a smartphone, but the vibrant can bypass this since it is not AT&T branded. If anyone who has done this could tell me about their experiences, or point me to another thread where this has been done, it would be greatly appreciated!
You might be able to do that, but because of the spectrum differences between T-Mobile and AT&T it will leave you stuck on edge at best for data.
Damn you Swype!
I am using this phone on AT&T with the $10 a month data plan, I also get 3g.
The Vibrant does support the 1900mhz Spectrum, which is awesome, cause T-Mobile is starting to open up 1900mhz in the Northwest getting ready to launch there HSPA+ 84Mbit network. So I could see someone hacking the radio in a Pentaband phone and getting mad speeds on t-mobile... maybe?
zeusakatkm said:
I am using this phone on AT&T with the $10 a month data plan, I also get 3g.
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What did you have to do to make this work? 2 year contract for a feature phone?
The original contract was for a pantech link
I'm on att using the $10 plan as well. 3g works but since vibrant only has one of att's 2 3g bands, the data can be spotty at times and i go into edge occasionally.
One of the reasons i want a new phone, but it's not too bad here in nyc.
You don't need a new contract just choose the feature online. It's only $10 if you have unlimited messaging though. Otherwise it's $15
I have the vibrant with ATT but cannot connect to the 3g network at all. I am running WEUI rom and i get a signal, but it either shows an "E" or an "H" by the signal when data is enabled...
Any ideas how to get it on 3g?
Thanks
H is 3g+, so you're fine.
Swyped, not typed, from my Digital Brick
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H is 3g+, so you're fine.
Swyped, not typed, from my Digital Brick
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Thanks. Thats interesting... So H is faster than 3g which is faster than E, is that how it works?
The guy in the att store never switched my unlimited plan from a 3g unlimited to 4g unlimited. The last couple days my data has been so slow. Facebook loads and stuff but xda app sometimes takes forever to load like im on Edge or something. If i go into the browser and go to www.google.com sometimes it just wont load. Phone shows 4 bars of 3g and the lines are indicating data being sent but it never loads. 3g in my area was super fast with my iphone. Speedtest shows 1mbit at first and drops down to like. .87mbit by the time the test is done.
Any ideas?
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Uh, either go back to the store and have them switch you to the 4G unlimited, or log into your account online and switch it, or call up customer service and have them switch it. The sales rep you bought it from is stupid for not doing so when you bought it. My guess as to why you are getting such slow speeds is that you are getting throttled. How much data do you normally use/have you used this bill cycle? If you are getting throttled, then switching to the new LTE unlimited plan should reset your throttling hopefully, but as soon as you reach around 2gb of data, expect to be throttled again.
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Uh, either go back to the store and have them switch you to the 4G unlimited, or log into your account online and switch it, or call up customer service and have them switch it. The sales rep you bought it from is stupid for not doing so when you bought it. My guess as to why you are getting such slow speeds is that you are getting throttled. How much data do you normally use/have you used this bill cycle? If you are getting throttled, then switching to the new LTE unlimited plan should reset your throttling hopefully, but as soon as you reach around 2gb of data, expect to be throttled again.
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Current billing cycle only shows 1345mb. So i shouldnt be getting throttled. The data does work though most of the time. So. I still need to switch it to the 4g? I dont know much about the service side of Att. I just figured if it worked it was fine.
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Not only switch to LTE but if you don't have one already, you'll need an LTE SIM card as well.
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Not only switch to LTE but if you don't have one already, you'll need an LTE SIM card as well.
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Okay. I looked at my sim and the last two digits on the sim is 27. No markings on it at all. Just blue and white. Doesnt even say 3g or anything like my old one did. I guess i didnt really bother asking the guy cause i figured he would know, and we dont have 4g around here anyways.
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Okay. I looked at my sim and the last two digits on the sim is 27. No markings on it at all. Just blue and white. Doesnt even say 3g or anything like my old one did. I guess i didnt really bother asking the guy cause i figured he would know, and we dont have 4g around here anyways.
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It would still be good to make sure you have the LTE sim card, and that you get upgraded to the LTE unlimited plan, even if you don't have 4G yet. It will still allow you to use 3G just fine.
I have a 3G unlimited plan and they tried to get me to change to a 4G plan but says they have no unlimited, ugh, come to find out all I had to do was get a LTE sim card & the store rep added the 4G code and voila magic, 4G without needing to change my plan
There is no such thing as a LTE sim. Its the data plan on your account that makes the difference. There are 3G, 4g and 4G LTE plans. If you have any data at all your on a correct plan. I have never seen a non LTE data plan work on a LTE phone. I have a Note on an unlimited LTE plan. Don't let bad reps lie.
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I have a similar problem. My wife bought me the phone and when she brought it home, I just took the sum from my Atrix and put it in. When accessing data, I get the 4G at the top. I am on the 3G unlimited plan as well. How do I know if the sim from my Atrix is 4G or not?
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Let me help you guys out:
mrandyp69 said:
Okay. I looked at my sim and the last two digits on the sim is 27. No markings on it at all. Just blue and white. Doesnt even say 3g or anything like my old one did. I guess i didnt really bother asking the guy cause i figured he would know, and we dont have 4g around here anyways.
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The blue and white SIM cards are the old ones. You need an orange / blue SIM card.
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There is no such thing as a LTE sim. Its the data plan on your account that makes the difference. There are 3G, 4g and 4G LTE plans. If you have any data at all your on a correct plan. I have never seen a non LTE data plan work on a LTE phone. I have a Note on an unlimited LTE plan. Don't let bad reps lie.
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There are. The blue / white SIM cards do not officially support LTE. They should still work for call etc, but data may not work properly.
And yes, data does need to be re provisioned under "unlimited LTE"
RavenZwei said:
I have a similar problem. My wife bought me the phone and when she brought it home, I just took the sum from my Atrix and put it in. When accessing data, I get the 4G at the top. I am on the 3G unlimited plan as well. How do I know if the sim from my Atrix is 4G or not?
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Just go into any AT&T store and ask for a new SIM card. ALL the new ones are LTE compatible.
SIM cards are free too. Just have the rep do an equipment change to your new IMEI / SIM. You'll keep your unlimited data, you get your new free SIM which will work just fine on LTE, and your data count will be reset for that billing cycle.
dial *3282# and you'll see the old deactivated HSPA+ data plan next to your fresh LTE plan. This is also one of the ways to remove throttling. More details on THAT can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517663
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Let me help you guys out:
The blue and white SIM cards are the old ones. You need an orange / blue SIM card.
There are. The blue / white SIM cards do not officially support LTE. They should still work for call etc, but data may not work properly.
And yes, data does need to be re provisioned under "unlimited LTE"
Just go into any AT&T store and ask for a new SIM card. ALL the new ones are LTE compatible.
SIM cards are free too. Just have the rep do an equipment change to your new IMEI / SIM. You'll keep your unlimited data, you get your new free SIM which will work just fine on LTE, and your data count will be reset for that billing cycle.
dial *3282# and you'll see the old deactivated HSPA+ data plan next to your fresh LTE plan. This is also one of the ways to remove throttling. More details on THAT can be found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1517663
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A lot of good info here. I do have a question though. I dialed *3282# and this is message I received back:
Next Bill Cycle: 03/02/2012
Data (MB): 720.6 of Unlimited (Deactivated)
Data (MB): 107.8 of Unlimited
Messaging: 6373 of Unlimited
Visit us online at www.att.com/DataPlans
So, besides the fact that I apparently send an exorbitant amount of text messages, I can assume the first Data line is the previous 3G unlimited plan, so does that make the second the LTE plan?
Also, you mentioned the color of sim cards. Mine is Blue/Orange/White on the front and orange on the back. Is this the one I need or do I still need to go into the store?
Thanks for all the info you've passed along so far.
Did you do a cross upgrade?
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Did you do a cross upgrade?
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What happened was, I talked about how I couldn't wait until March 15th so I could upgrade to the Note. My wife happened to be at the mall and stopped by one of those AT&T Kiosks and somehow convinced the guy to let her get upgrade early. I tried the same thing at AT&T store and they wouldn't do it. So she paid for the phone and brought it home. I took it out of the box, put my sim card in it and voila.
Not sure if that counts as a cross upgrade or not, lol.
RavenZwei said:
What happened was, I talked about how I couldn't wait until March 15th so I could upgrade to the Note. My wife happened to be at the mall and stopped by one of those AT&T Kiosks and somehow convinced the guy to let her get upgrade early. I tried the same thing at AT&T store and they wouldn't do it. So she paid for the phone and brought it home. I took it out of the box, put my sim card in it and voila.
Not sure if that counts as a cross upgrade or not, lol.
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Yes, it is because your account didn't get properly provisioned to use LTE data, your wife's account did. Call AT&T to have your account/data plan changed to LTE unlimited. It's that simple.
This. We went through al of it when the skyrocket released trust me. We have found the sim makes no difference unless its a really really old sim...but the provisioning is key
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Yes, it is because your account didn't get properly provisioned to use LTE data, your wife's account did. Call AT&T to have your account/data plan changed to LTE unlimited. It's that simple.
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Good thing I brought this up..... ;-) I know from experience about the new SIM As well as the provisioned data plan.
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Im just really confused about my data speeds. Wifi is super fast. 3g just isnt fast at all. Crawls. Web pages take so long to load. They shouldnt be throttling me. Im only at 1200 mb.
I cant clear the thought of it being a defect with the phone.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
HSPA+
Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
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Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I've tested running completely stock, stock + rooted, and on The Collective Unofficial ROM.
Yes I am on AT&T.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I'm running into the same issues. I am thinking that since I am a long time AT&T unlimited user, I only have two options available:
Note: I already unlocked, then rooted the stock with Odin, did a back-up with
Titanium, did a nandroid back from the phone, and loaded the clockwork recovery into my phone so that I can load ROMS easier.
Options:
1. Subscribe to AT&Ts NEW service options and I will be subscribed to their
new HSPA+/LTE club (give up unlimited) without any problems.
OR
2. Don't subscribe to any of their new plans, and stay stuck with the Edge and
3G, and Unlimited data services, all while the phone falsely shows 4G at the top of the screen.
My fastest down speed has been around 6.5 MB - depending on where I am while 4G was being displayed on the phone.
It seems to me that the HSPA+/LTE requires a special subscription.
Network Mode does not appear on my phone, so I can't ensure that it
it has a 4G service selected. I was looking for a fix that would turn my Network Mode back on.
I can see a defaulted APN titled AT&T PTA, but it is locked from edits.
If I set my phone to that defaulted AT&T PTA everything works but data. SpeedTest immediately displays, "Try Again".
In my Elixir application, if I choose "Turn WiMax(4G) ON,
I get the following in Elixir:
=====Data======
State: DcInactiveState
disconnected with last try at 4:38 PM
fail because
SERVICE_OPTION_NOT_SUBSCRIBED
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So, I think that either we need to figure out how to turn Network Mode back on,
for the AT&T Notes, or give up unlimited and go with their new plan.
Some kind of way it seems like a subscription may be tied into allowing HSPA/LTE speeds.
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
lactardjosh said:
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
4g vs 3g
Don't bother upgrading. I had unlimited, and am now on their 5gb a month plan with tethering. and I am not getting any faster speeds. I seriously doubt it's the plan, and I am getting billed for 4g.
Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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I think maybe I misread your earlier post. Do you mean that you have an AT&T Unlimited plan (calling minutes, etc) or AT&T unlimited data plan?
If you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, they should upgrade you to the unlimited 4G data plan with the new SIM card.
If you have the Unlimited calling plan, then you might have to suck it up and get one of the capped data plans if you really want LTE.
Either way, to get the faster data speeds you would need a new SIM card. The older SIMs (even from last year in some cases) can't handle the faster LTE speeds and can cripple the data speeds on the phone to the point you are describing.
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
XDA is no longer worth my time.
TimOster said:
I just picked mine up yesterday. Upgraded from a Nexus One. I still have the old SIM, it's disabled. I purchased the phone at the ATT store. Comes with a NEW SIM or you won't get LTE speeds.
1. Other than the upgrade fee, my monthly bill is the same. I still have my unlimited data plan, only since I'm LTE now I don't get throttled until I hit 5G.
2. I get 25M DL, 8.5 UL at my house. I live in San Diego. (depending on where I am. I tried here at work and got **** for DL, right next to thousands of iPhone users)
If someone is telling you different, they are lying.
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
Tecneek said:
You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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No. It has to be an "unlimited smartphone data plan". If you have that no matter what phone you are using, you can keep it. Usually you can tell by how much you are paying for the data plan. There was a "unlimited" plan for other non smartphones for like $20 for phones like the Razor etc but the smartphone plan for what were known previously as PDAs was like $39.
So which one do you have? I am pretty sure if you only have the unlimited non-smartphone plan you cannot convert that to a smartphone unlimited plan...
LTE
Yes, and I think there is a list of cities somewhere. Seattle area, as high tech as it is, does NOT have it yet, while smaller cities, and lower tech areas do? Doesn't make sense to me. So for now I am stuck with HSPA+
On my HD2, I had regular 3g speeds, then I did a radio change, and used the Rafpigna Froyo ROM, and suddenly I started getting speeds like my sig pic shows. My data is slower with this ROM, but from what I have been reading around the net, my speeds are pretty typical for a lot of the Notes on HSPA+
Forgot to mention that I installed the leaked ICS ROM, and it is very much worth doing. Data speed went up a little as well. Still not as much as my HD2 was though.
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The speed of the network will always vary greatly. They are completely based on your proximity to the tower and the current load from other users on the tower. Unless you can find a tower with no other users on it and you can repeat the test from the exact same spot, there is no way to compare speeds between phones, or even the same phone at different locations.
If you find some threads where people are reporting their speeds, you will see that they vary by massive amounts.
I can say that I am still onthe unlimited data plan and on stock ROM I was getting 10Mbps. It must be your area because my last phone was hitting max capability on HSPA @ 7.2 Mbps.
Sent from my Samsung Galaxy Note™
Edit, just to clarify I went from a 3G only phone and finally got a 4G phone and I really don't thing they are trying to throttle your speeds just because you are on 4G with an unlimited data plan.
I was an AT&T rep from a long time ago (before cingular) and one thing that has held true is that all reps are told by corporate to push people into new plans no matter what. I was told as a rep by another rep that even something as swapping phones required new 2 year contracts which was and still is bull.
AT&T arbitrarily swapped my plan when I went from my G1 to a streak because they said I never was on a smartphone plan. I explained to them that I was on a blackjack and went to a G1 (paying $30 a month) and then I went to the streak. They told me tough luck and they were keeping me on the tiered data plan. I calmly asked for their manager, when I was transferred I exploded on the manager telling them that I call every time when I swap phones to make sure everything is good (not needing to upgrade my plan or anything) and that it was their screwup and if they're treating me like this I was going to leave. I promptly got an apology and asked for my current IEMI number and we were done. I threw in words and phrases like improper business practices, bait and switch and other such things. Managers have more "Say" on what they can do, you tend to get things taken care of because they just don't want to deal with you.
that's been my experience with AT&T, they're far from perfect, but if you start yelling and being upset, you're more likely to get what you want. Sad but true.
LTE
Nope, no LTE in Seattle yet. Only HSPA+ Seattle is very high tech, and yet, no LTE here. One of AT&T's major data centers is here as well. Hard to tell why they are slow rolling it out here.
I don't get to see the invoices. My wife works for AT&T, and gets those. She did tell me I am being billed for 4g though.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
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I was going to purchase a Galaxy S3 from ATT and use it on the go phone plan. The rep at the store told me if I purchased the phone and it didn't work with my go phone sim I would be unable to return the phone. I asked if all I had to do was enter in the correct APN it would work. He said he'd seen other people try and not be able to get it to work. Is this guy full of crap? I understand I wouldn't be getting LTE but figured I would be able to get 3g. I was going to enter in the APN settings that I used on my unlocked tmobile galaxy s2 on the go phone plan.
Yah the guy is full of crap. It would be work but won't be using the phone to its full potential. Have you tried StraightTalk or Tmobile Monthly4G perhaps? I'm currently on Tmo's monthly 4G $30 plan and absolutely love it. I cant imagin myself being tied down to another 2yr contract ever again. I avg around 12-18mbps down with Tmobile btw.
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Yah the guy is full of crap. It would be work but won't be using the phone to its full potential. Have you tried StraightTalk or Tmobile Monthly4G perhaps? I'm currently on Tmo's monthly 4G $30 plan and absolutely love it. I cant imagin myself being tied down to another 2yr contract ever again. I avg around 12-18mbps down with Tmobile btw.
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Thanks for the information. T mobile has poor coverage where I am located. I currently have a go phone plan but have thought about using straight talk since it uses att towers and has unlimited data if you don't abuse it.
I see. StraightTalk's data speeds are actually pretty fast. But i've heard that even though it says its unlimited, they do cap you at only 2GBs.
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I see. StraightTalk's data speeds are actually pretty fast. But i've heard that even though it says its unlimited, they do cap you at only 2GBs.
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I heard they don't so much cap you as they actually kick you off. I use less than 1 GB a month so it won't be so much of a problem.
I would look into Straight Talk for your needs. I suggest reading this thread for some good user feedback on ST(data cap, coverage, call quality, etc) on ATT http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1681307