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Its all over the web, apparently its been launched in vegas today. My advantage should be 3g capable right? I read on engadget that supposebly tmobile phones that are 3g compatible shoudl automatically find the network and start using it...well im still on edge here. I went into advanced network, and i have enable hsdpa only, if i try to activate both hsdpa and hsupa and reset the phone, it reverts back to hsdpa only. Anyone know if its correct that I should just be able to start using 3g, without adding anything to my tmobile account? I kinda figured I would have to call and pay a little more for the faster speeds. Maybe there are some settings that I need to change in order to access it....im running the Irus 0MBPP Rom, spl 1.2, radio 1.58
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Its all over the web, apparently its been launched in vegas today. My advantage should be 3g capable right? I read on engadget that supposebly tmobile phones that are 3g compatible shoudl automatically find the network and start using it...well im still on edge here. I went into advanced network, and i have enable hsdpa only, if i try to activate both hsdpa and hsupa and reset the phone, it reverts back to hsdpa only. Anyone know if its correct that I should just be able to start using 3g, without adding anything to my tmobile account? I kinda figured I would have to call and pay a little more for the faster speeds. Maybe there are some settings that I need to change in order to access it....im running the Irus 0MBPP Rom, spl 1.2, radio 1.58
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did you try going to phone>menu>options>band>the top drop down menu "Select your network type" and select WCDMA
I don't think its compatible
T-Mobile 3G runs on AWS 1700, a band not currently supported by the Athena radio. This is presumably a hardware limitation and a distinct disadvantage of T-Mobile USA's late entry to the 3G market. Expect a Kaiser implementation from AWS 1700 according to the FCC, but I would not hold my breath for an advantage with AWS 1700.
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booooo, thats not what i wanted to hear...i was lookin forward to 3g for awhile....anyways thanks for the quick response guys
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booooo, thats not what i wanted to hear...i was lookin forward to 3g for awhile....anyways thanks for the quick response guys
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I'm switching to AT&T!!!! All that wait to hear this, what a waste...
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I'm switching to AT&T!!!! All that wait to hear this, what a waste...
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yes, that really sucks.
You guys should definitely switch to at&t. I don't get 3g locally,but when i go to bigger cities, it automatically switches. I have no complaints with AT&T's mobile services.
grr, this is really pretty upsetting for me. I just added a new line for my girlfriend onto my tmobile account so I think it renewed my 2 year contract. I used to have AT&T, but i got screwed with text message billing issues that they wouldnt resolve(this is all before at&t adopted unlimited txting) So i switched to tmobile just to have an unlimited txt option. Low and behold about 1 month or two after i switched...at&t announced their unlimited txting addon I'd gladly switch back to at&t, but I think id have issues with the contract.
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grr, this is really pretty upsetting for me. I just added a new line for my girlfriend onto my tmobile account so I think it renewed my 2 year contract. I used to have AT&T, but i got screwed with text message billing issues that they wouldnt resolve(this is all before at&t adopted unlimited txting) So i switched to tmobile just to have an unlimited txt option. Low and behold about 1 month or two after i switched...at&t announced their unlimited txting addon I'd gladly switch back to at&t, but I think id have issues with the contract.
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You might be able to break out of your contract early if you call and say you want out because they're raising the SMS rate to $.20. That's what I did a month ago and I didn't have to pay a termination fee. I'm not sure if it's too late to use that excuse, but it'd be worth a try. I also switched to AT&T because T-Mobile 3G won't work with any phones they don't sell.
--FCOD
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grr, this is really pretty upsetting for me. I just added a new line for my girlfriend onto my tmobile account so I think it renewed my 2 year contract. I used to have AT&T, but i got screwed with text message billing issues that they wouldnt resolve(this is all before at&t adopted unlimited txting) So i switched to tmobile just to have an unlimited txt option. Low and behold about 1 month or two after i switched...at&t announced their unlimited txting addon I'd gladly switch back to at&t, but I think id have issues with the contract.
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I'm trying to come up with a good storyline to break my 2 year contract. I might just tell them to suspend the account for now..... My question is why on earth would they go with AWS 3g if their is hardly any phones that support it. Also I read something where it says it's voice only 3g service, how true is this? All I can say is, it was fun waiting but If this is what it is then I need to go elsewhere. T-mo's going to lose a bunch of customers when they understand what's going on.
Your network access in Vegas, stays in Vegas.
Hello All! First off, this is my first post on this forum, and I must say, that I am glad to be a part of a "community" that is passionate about mobile technology!
Question: I currently use an iPhone 3Gs on AT&T. I have the unlimited data and text message plan. If I decide to purchase an unlocked GS2, will my 3G sim card out of my iphone work in the GS2? Also, will I be able to keep my unlimited data and text plan?
Thanks in advance!
As far as I know, and from my experience. Yes.
I am also on that plan, and it works great for me in NYC. HSPA+ 95 percent of the time.
yes, because technically, youre not cancelling the original plan.
Thanks for the reply everyone! So just to clarify, my regular iPhone 3G sim will fit and work on the GS2? Will I only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I don't have a 4G sim or data plan?
Yes it will fit but not sure about the other question.
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Anyone know if I will only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I do not have a 4G sim card? Also, will I have to call in to AT&T customer service to have them activate the GS2?
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Anyone know if I will only be able to receive 3G connectivity since I do not have a 4G sim card? Also, will I have to call in to AT&T customer service to have them activate the GS2?
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You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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Thanks for the info drgopoo! How do I go about obtaining a valid 4G IMEI from such devices?
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Thanks for the info drgopoo! How do I go about obtaining a valid 4G IMEI from such devices?
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i used my wife's atrix. Some people had luck by going to the att store and getting one from one of the reps
Even though I love the GS2, having to locate a "4G IMEI" to get the phone to work on AT&T sounds like too much work!
Hate to say it, but I think I may end up waiting for the AT&T variant (ATTAIN) to come out this year. Sucks there isn't a release date in sight as of yet!
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Even though I love the GS2, having to locate a "4G IMEI" to get the phone to work on AT&T sounds like too much work!
Hate to say it, but I think I may end up waiting for the AT&T variant (ATTAIN) to come out this year. Sucks there isn't a release date in sight as of yet!
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The phone WILL WORK on AT&T no matter what. You will get H+ service no matter what. However if you are switching SIM from a 3G phone, most likely your H+ speed will be capped at like 6 Mbps. To unlock at&t backhaul that is not capped, you OPTIONALLY may want to call in an ask them to change your existing plan to the plan they have for AT&T certified 4G devices like the Infuse. In order to do that, AT&T needs a random IMEI number from such a device. You can give them ANY number. Just stop buy AT&T store, take a look at a display Infuse, go to menus to see the IMEI and take a picture of that screen, then give that number to AT&T rep.
This is just how their plan changing software works, it needs a capable IMEI to put you on the "4G" network.
Just to reiterate , by default imported SGS2 will work on 3g and 4g on AT&T, 4G "may-be" capped though at 6 or so Mbps. I personally do not give two ****s about this capping because only on a rare day I can get more than 3 Mbps in my market (New York) where AT&T sucks tremendously. So I did not bother to call in and upgrade.
Note though, that you do NOT want to call in and upgrade if you are on a dumbphone plan.
Why would you not go back to Media Net plan? It costs 10 bucks with messaging plan, its unlimited and you get H+ speed.
drgopoos said:
You will receive 4g speeds ( actually hsdpa + which att calls 4g)
U dont need to activate ur phone in att to get it to work with data or phone
To activate the 4g network for ur phone u will need an imei from atrix or other ATT 4g plan.
The imei of SGS 2 wont show up in ATT network as a 4g phone as they do not have that data base.
There is big thread here on how to thistopic - The pages 8-11 , I think are more fruitful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1109983
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Thanks for the info.
I am currently using my Unlimited Data plan of my iPhone 4 on my SGS2.
I bought this simtray that can hold the micro sim so it fits in the SGS2.
The speeds I get are on the so called 4G network H+ but I am not that impressed for now.
Right now the Upload speed I get is 2.2Mbps Down / 0.79Mbps Up and 138ms Ping. I believe this could be better.
I guess I will try to get the IMEI changed with an Atrix as mentioned.
*Update*
So I just talked with ATT over chat when I logged on to their website.
I lied to them and told them I had an ATT ATRIX 4G and needed the right speed.
They asked me for the IMEI, so I searched for an ATT ATRIX 4G IMEI on Google , they changed it on my account and now I have unlimited HSPA dataplan.
I did some tests with the APN both give more or less the same results but the area I am currently at is not that great for H+ but I did see improvement in the upload speed.
Right now I have 2.39Mbps Down / 1.03Mbps Up and 142ms ping.
Will try it out tonight when I am more close to H+ areas but my iPhone SIM just works fine in my SGS2
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This is just how their plan changing software works, it needs a capable IMEI to put you on the "4G" network.
Just to reiterate , by default imported SGS2 will work on 3g and 4g on AT&T, 4G "may-be" capped though at 6 or so Mbps. I personally do not give two ****s about this capping because only on a rare day I can get more than 3 Mbps in my market (New York) where AT&T sucks tremendously. So I did not bother to call in and upgrade.
Note though, that you do NOT want to call in and upgrade if you are on a dumbphone plan.
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I currently have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 3Gs. I do not want to lose it downgrading myself to the cappeed bandwidth plan. Will the standard AT&T 3G sim card (non-micro sim chip) work in the GS2? Does the imported GS2 come with a sim tray?
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Thanks for the info.
I am currently using my Unlimited Data plan of my iPhone 4 on my SGS2.
I bought this simtray that can hold the micro sim so it fits in the SGS2.
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The GS2 doesn't not come with a sim card tray???
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I currently have the unlimited data plan on my iPhone 3Gs. I do not want to lose it downgrading myself to the cappeed bandwidth plan. Will the standard AT&T 3G sim card (non-micro sim chip) work in the GS2? Does the imported GS2 come with a sim tray?
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The GS2 doesn't not come with a sim card tray???
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No SIM tray in the package, SGS2 was not build for Apple converts.
Your unlimited 3G will be grandfathered if you put that SIM (with your own adapter) into the SGS2.
Further, I believe (but am NOT sure) you can call in and ask them to "mark" your grandfathered unlimited plan as 4G by telling them your new device is an Infuse or Atrix and giving them the IMEI, per the numerous posts here. I repeat, I did NOT do it myself, so I can't 100% assure you can do it and will not lose anything.
I just upgraded my Unlimited 3g plan to 4g and at&t accidentally put me on the 2gb limited plan and removed my txt messaging. Don't know how the rep made this mistake.
Wasnt a big deal to resolve and get back the unlimited plan. Just make sure you clarify multiple times.
Btw, my 4g and 3g speeds suck in salt lake city. Can't get higher than 2mb download.
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I just upgraded my Unlimited 3g plan to 4g and at&t accidentally put me on the 2gb limited plan and removed my txt messaging. Don't know how the rep made this mistake.
Wasnt a big deal to resolve and get back the unlimited plan. Just make sure you clarify multiple times.
Btw, my 4g and 3g speeds suck in salt lake city. Can't get higher than 2mb download.
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My understanding is that once you switch from 3G to 4G, AT&T will remove the unlimited data and ask to put you on one of their new data plans. THis is how they are getting people to let go of the unlimited data. Is this true?
I bought a vibrant yesterday from craigslist and unlocked it so my sister could use it on AT&T with $15 unlimited data. All was going well until this morning when she got this text message, "AT&T Free Msg: Did you know a data plan is required for your iphone? We have added an appropriate data plan for your iphone. Learn more at att.com/iphoneplans."
It upgraded her plan to the $25 2gb plan automatically and won't let me downgrade the plan. On mywireless it calls the plan a datapro iphone plan but still displays the phone as unknown.
Has anyone else had this problem? I thought this phone would be safe from imei sweeps.
Not yet, but I have a feeling that it is coming sooner than later.
I think I'm just going to call cs, tell them the problem, give them the vibrants imei and hope for the best. I really hope they aren't using some kind of deep packet analysis to find out how she's using the phone.
They probably are--money is everything to these companies, and they will do whatever they can to make more of it.
Funny! Now we know who we'll be paying our bills to
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Not yet, but I have a feeling that it is coming sooner than later.
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What did you tell att to get on your plan? did you tell them you had a vibrant (or sgh-t959) or did you use an ATT dumbphone first?
In my attempt, I took her sim out of her iPhone 3G (200mb data plan) put it in an LG Xenon (dumb phone) called customer service and had them change the plan to the $15 unlimited for dumb phones, waited 15 minutes, put the sim in the unlocked vibrant.
This worked just fine when I did it with a couple of unlocked mytouch 3g's.
Should I have waited longer before switching phones or should I have just told them I have a vibrant (or SGH-t959).
Either way you should be able to get them to take it off due to the fact that you shouldn't be pulling 3g with the vibrant. Yeah you might get it once in a while but probably not consistently.
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Good news, I got the unlimited data plan back after giving them my imei number directly.
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Either way you should be able to get them to take it off due to the fact that you shouldn't be pulling 3g with the vibrant. Yeah you might get it once in a while but probably not consistently.
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It gets 3g consistently and works really well in my area, which might be part of the problem. I backed it off to edge (at least for a few days). You probably live in an 850mhz service area. The vibrant only supports 1900mhz hspa but does support 850mhz edge. I get great 3g speeds with the vibrant 1000~2000kbps.
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What did you tell att to get on your plan? did you tell them you had a vibrant (or sgh-t959) or did you use an ATT dumbphone first?
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I used the ATT dumbphone first. It is good to hear you got it fixed.
Hello Folks,
Just bought myself a samsung galaxy S2 and swapped my AT&T SIM into the new phone. The phone seems to be working just fine but there is no internet connectivity through the 3G network. It doesn't even show that there is a 3G connection. I've tried to go into the settings and have played around but to no avail. Could someone please help or point me in the right direction? Would be a shame to spend 600$ for a phone that only works for voice calling and wifi.
Much appreciated
Harry
I'm having the same problem. Signed up for AT&T since the international version doesn't work with Simple Mobile, have a 2GB dataplan for smart phones and 400 minutes. A friends AT&T sim with an unlimited data plan works fine no problem. Went to the AT&T store and had them test the phone with one of their sim's and it worked... Have to go back to the store on Monday and try and get someone further up the chain to take a look at this.
If you have the Inter model, you will need a 4G data plan... apparently you can swap it. Make sure they set you up in their system under the 4G plan, the price remains the same.
Edit: Have them check your SIM card also, to be safe is compatible with the 4G network.
At Bell, it costs $5 to replace your SIM card. My old SIM worked out of the box with the new phone.
and verify your apn settings. They will vary depending what data plan you are on.
The APN settings are set as the default. WAP.cingular APN gets an unhighlited H+ for a second then it drops to 3G with no connection up or down then it drops off. I'm going to use the ADB log to get more info.
Raised a case with AT&T after verifying everything twice, the latest they'll get back to me is Wednesday.
Ok, so finally got Data working. The AT&T representative, when I first signed up in store, didn't put an IMEI of an AT&T phone in the system so regardless of whether or not I had the correct smart phone data plan, the system wouldn't allow me to properly connect to the data network. So after fussing about the SIM card at the store, the AT&T rep put in an IMEI of an AT&T 4G phone in and then it connected.
Although now that i've found out that H2O wireless has an unlimited $60 plan and is an MVNO that piggy backs on AT&T, i'm tempted to sign up with them. I just need to find out if they support HSPA+ and conditional call forwarding.
I as well has the problem with my S2 not getting a data connection. I did everything that I could think of, but just wasn't getting any connection.
My wife has a Atrix (motorola) and she has the HSPA+ and 3g, so I swapped the SIMs and then my phone was getting the same connection speeds.
I went to the AT&T store and they did give me a new sim (one that said is used for the 4g) , but still nothing.. I told the rep at the counter about me swapping my wife' sim and that happened and she looked at her phone, noticed some setting and basically did a copy and paste and now I got the same speeds.
So, if anyone has any light to shed on what might have been updated.. I sure would like to know.. just in case our account gets changed or updated...
I don't recommend the new unl H2O data plan b/c I had a bad experience with them, their data speed its just too slow. Its like the lowest 3G speed of like 180kbps down and lime 86kbps up.
Using at&t non-smartphone plan I get like 7.5Mbps down and 2Mbps up for $10/mo. (big, big difference), AT&T is the way to go on the GSII.
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A little off subject, will the S2 get 4G? I get the HSPA+ , but the AT&T rep said that it would not get the AT&T 4g
hey guys,
i have this exact problem. I am on a family plan and my phone number has an unlimited $15/mo data plan. I have a sim card from 2002, and it works fine with my dumb phone.
My sony ericsson C905A shows an "H" symbol as well as 3g and i can get the internet/data on it. however, on my international galaxy s2 , all i get is edge and i have no indication of either 3g or H+.
how would i be able to switch to the "4g" plan? what would i need to do when i go to the AT&T store?
4G from AT&T is HSPA+ I'm on AT&T and after some account hiccups now have 4G
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okay... I need to do a speed test, but there is that new 4LTE (or something like that) isn't that the 'true' 4G?
There's HSPA+, which gives "4G"-esque speeds. I've gotten as high as 7 Mbps on it on my EU version phone running KE7. Currently available SGS2's don't support LTE; Samsung has announced a LTE version, but it is, as far as I know, not available just yet.
My understanding is that the AT&T version, due out next weekend, will NOT be LTE-capable.
The LTE version has only just come out in Korea, my guess is the US market may see it on the Verizon network first.
Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
HSPA+
Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I easily get 10MB down on my this phone on HSPA+, which is the same as my last phone. I'd say there is something wrong with your phone.
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Are you running a stock rom? Mines rooted, but otherwise stock. Also, are you on AT&T?
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I've tested running completely stock, stock + rooted, and on The Collective Unofficial ROM.
Yes I am on AT&T.
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Is anyone working on tweaking the AT&T Notes radio? I don't mean for TMobile, I mean so that HSPA+ as well as LTE are faster? The reason I ask, is I had/have an HTC HD2 that gets way better data transfer rates on 3g, than this phone does on HSPA+ in the same area. I have been able to hit 3-4Mbits down on this phone, and was getting 5-to almost 8 MBits on the HD2. (There have been a dozen plus radios on the HD2) The data speed on this Note is disappointing.
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I'm running into the same issues. I am thinking that since I am a long time AT&T unlimited user, I only have two options available:
Note: I already unlocked, then rooted the stock with Odin, did a back-up with
Titanium, did a nandroid back from the phone, and loaded the clockwork recovery into my phone so that I can load ROMS easier.
Options:
1. Subscribe to AT&Ts NEW service options and I will be subscribed to their
new HSPA+/LTE club (give up unlimited) without any problems.
OR
2. Don't subscribe to any of their new plans, and stay stuck with the Edge and
3G, and Unlimited data services, all while the phone falsely shows 4G at the top of the screen.
My fastest down speed has been around 6.5 MB - depending on where I am while 4G was being displayed on the phone.
It seems to me that the HSPA+/LTE requires a special subscription.
Network Mode does not appear on my phone, so I can't ensure that it
it has a 4G service selected. I was looking for a fix that would turn my Network Mode back on.
I can see a defaulted APN titled AT&T PTA, but it is locked from edits.
If I set my phone to that defaulted AT&T PTA everything works but data. SpeedTest immediately displays, "Try Again".
In my Elixir application, if I choose "Turn WiMax(4G) ON,
I get the following in Elixir:
=====Data======
State: DcInactiveState
disconnected with last try at 4:38 PM
fail because
SERVICE_OPTION_NOT_SUBSCRIBED
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So, I think that either we need to figure out how to turn Network Mode back on,
for the AT&T Notes, or give up unlimited and go with their new plan.
Some kind of way it seems like a subscription may be tied into allowing HSPA/LTE speeds.
You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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You don't have to give up your grandfathered unlimited plan for HSPA or LTE. They just upgrade you to the 4G version of the unlimited plan.
You may have to do it in an actual AT&T store (not a dealer) or over the phone with customer care.
Also these phones don't have wimax...
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I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
4g vs 3g
Don't bother upgrading. I had unlimited, and am now on their 5gb a month plan with tethering. and I am not getting any faster speeds. I seriously doubt it's the plan, and I am getting billed for 4g.
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I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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Tecneek said:
I've been on the phone with a couple of reps., been into an AT&T shop a few times, and they all keep telling me that I have to upgrade to their new plan which does not have unlimited. The best they could offer me was a 5 GB plan. Also, they said I have never been on a smartphone plan with them. Although, I was previously using an HTC HD2 (sounds like a smartphone too me), but it was not a smartphone registered in their system. Records show that I'm a razor user.
They have no record of the unlocked phones that have been using like the HTC HD2. So now, when I take that SIM out of the HTC HD2 and slide it into the Note, I'm not getting 4G.
And finally, they said that if I was previously on one of their Smartphone plans I would be able to transfer to the LTE service.
When I zoom out and look at the big picture, I don't think most people have a need for the extra speed anyway.
Any thoughts... I think I am stuck with the Edge.
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I think maybe I misread your earlier post. Do you mean that you have an AT&T Unlimited plan (calling minutes, etc) or AT&T unlimited data plan?
If you have a grandfathered unlimited data plan, they should upgrade you to the unlimited 4G data plan with the new SIM card.
If you have the Unlimited calling plan, then you might have to suck it up and get one of the capped data plans if you really want LTE.
Either way, to get the faster data speeds you would need a new SIM card. The older SIMs (even from last year in some cases) can't handle the faster LTE speeds and can cripple the data speeds on the phone to the point you are describing.
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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The reps are BSing you. I have a grandfathered unlimited plan & switched to a LTE unlimited plan by asking the rep to do it for me when I activated my I717. I came from a N7000 to an I717. Are you in a LTE area? I went from 3-6MB DL to 20-35ish MB DL, depending where I'm at.
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Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
XDA is no longer worth my time.
TimOster said:
I just picked mine up yesterday. Upgraded from a Nexus One. I still have the old SIM, it's disabled. I purchased the phone at the ATT store. Comes with a NEW SIM or you won't get LTE speeds.
1. Other than the upgrade fee, my monthly bill is the same. I still have my unlimited data plan, only since I'm LTE now I don't get throttled until I hit 5G.
2. I get 25M DL, 8.5 UL at my house. I live in San Diego. (depending on where I am. I tried here at work and got **** for DL, right next to thousands of iPhone users)
If someone is telling you different, they are lying.
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You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
Tecneek said:
You guys got me feeling slighted over here Ok, I'm defintely going to follow-up again. I was wondering if your Nexus smartphone was a recognized AT&T phone. The pivotal point for grandfathering unlimited to LTE may be that they will do it only for THEIR phones that were previously recognized as smartphones. When they look up my records it comes back showing that I'm officially using one of their previous motorola razor phones, which at the time was not on a their smartphone plan, even though I was able to use the SIM in an unlocked non-AT&T HTC-HD2 without any problems.
So, maybe if you come from a recognized AT&T smartphone they will upgrade you, but if your last phone registered with them was not considered a smartphone while on an unlimited data plan, then they will not grandfather you in..
I gues it's worth another try.
p.s. thanks for helping me respond and overcome that *&^ image verification challenge
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No. It has to be an "unlimited smartphone data plan". If you have that no matter what phone you are using, you can keep it. Usually you can tell by how much you are paying for the data plan. There was a "unlimited" plan for other non smartphones for like $20 for phones like the Razor etc but the smartphone plan for what were known previously as PDAs was like $39.
So which one do you have? I am pretty sure if you only have the unlimited non-smartphone plan you cannot convert that to a smartphone unlimited plan...
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Yes, and I think there is a list of cities somewhere. Seattle area, as high tech as it is, does NOT have it yet, while smaller cities, and lower tech areas do? Doesn't make sense to me. So for now I am stuck with HSPA+
On my HD2, I had regular 3g speeds, then I did a radio change, and used the Rafpigna Froyo ROM, and suddenly I started getting speeds like my sig pic shows. My data is slower with this ROM, but from what I have been reading around the net, my speeds are pretty typical for a lot of the Notes on HSPA+
Forgot to mention that I installed the leaked ICS ROM, and it is very much worth doing. Data speed went up a little as well. Still not as much as my HD2 was though.
Tecneek said:
I have the unlimited data and calling plan. Reps. just told me straight out that I will lose the unlimited data. But after reading Cobra's post, I have no clue as to what the real trigger is for making HSPA+/LTE work on my phone.
Well, I'm getting ready to strip everything to see how ICS looks, and then go from there..
I guess Cobra there is still no answer. You switched and it is still slow, I did not switch and it is still slow. Does the LTE service really exist
p.s. I can't wait until I don't have to challenge the image verification. I cannot understand those &^&%^ letters
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The speed of the network will always vary greatly. They are completely based on your proximity to the tower and the current load from other users on the tower. Unless you can find a tower with no other users on it and you can repeat the test from the exact same spot, there is no way to compare speeds between phones, or even the same phone at different locations.
If you find some threads where people are reporting their speeds, you will see that they vary by massive amounts.
I can say that I am still onthe unlimited data plan and on stock ROM I was getting 10Mbps. It must be your area because my last phone was hitting max capability on HSPA @ 7.2 Mbps.
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Edit, just to clarify I went from a 3G only phone and finally got a 4G phone and I really don't thing they are trying to throttle your speeds just because you are on 4G with an unlimited data plan.
I was an AT&T rep from a long time ago (before cingular) and one thing that has held true is that all reps are told by corporate to push people into new plans no matter what. I was told as a rep by another rep that even something as swapping phones required new 2 year contracts which was and still is bull.
AT&T arbitrarily swapped my plan when I went from my G1 to a streak because they said I never was on a smartphone plan. I explained to them that I was on a blackjack and went to a G1 (paying $30 a month) and then I went to the streak. They told me tough luck and they were keeping me on the tiered data plan. I calmly asked for their manager, when I was transferred I exploded on the manager telling them that I call every time when I swap phones to make sure everything is good (not needing to upgrade my plan or anything) and that it was their screwup and if they're treating me like this I was going to leave. I promptly got an apology and asked for my current IEMI number and we were done. I threw in words and phrases like improper business practices, bait and switch and other such things. Managers have more "Say" on what they can do, you tend to get things taken care of because they just don't want to deal with you.
that's been my experience with AT&T, they're far from perfect, but if you start yelling and being upset, you're more likely to get what you want. Sad but true.
LTE
Nope, no LTE in Seattle yet. Only HSPA+ Seattle is very high tech, and yet, no LTE here. One of AT&T's major data centers is here as well. Hard to tell why they are slow rolling it out here.
I don't get to see the invoices. My wife works for AT&T, and gets those. She did tell me I am being billed for 4g though.
Tecneek said:
Good grief.. I'll try again at a new location. I'll simply tell them that I want to change my current unlimited plan to the LTE unlimited plan. I am in the Wash, D.C. metro area. They act like an LTE unlimited plan doesn't exist.
Cobra are you in an LTE area? I wonder why your speeds aren't up there if you are in fact on the LTE plan.
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Oh, they looked at the SIM too and said it was a current SIM.
If you can send me the description of the svc as on the invoice I would appreciate..
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