If I flash back to the stock firmware using the motorola sbf files, will my bootloader remain unlocked? I flashed back and flashed the unlocking sbf file. When my phone booted up it said unlocked, even though I didn't run the fastboot commands. I then ran the fastboot commands anyway and it said the bootloader was already unlocked. So will the unlocked bootloader always remain unlocked?
No. It's locked again
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it stays unlocked... despite what ^^^ said >.>
but it wont show until you just flash the pudding sbf like you did
P.S. no known way to re-lock as of yet
xepter said:
it stays unlocked... despite what ^^^ said >.>
but it wont show until you just flash the pudding sbf like you did
P.S. no known way to re-lock as of yet
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Ok, thanks. I wasn't planning on relocking, I was just curious. So next time I won't even have to flash the sbf? The sbf just makes the unlocking text show up when it boots up, but it should still allow me to do stuff like install the new CWM recovery without that, right?
Another thing, when I flashed that sbf, I didn't go into RSD mode. I was in a hurry and I forgot so I just ran the RSD program, and it detected my phone, so I clicked start. I realized later that I hadn't booted up into RSD mode...
Should I be worried? Was the RSD mode just an unnecessary precaution?
You can't relock..............it's a hardware unlock (fuse lock). When you unlock a fuse burns out, and that's end of story.
If you flash back to a different firmware the word "unlocked" will go away, but you are still unlocked. You can unlock again to make the word "unlocked" reappear on the boot screen.
EU sbf on AT&T possible?
I am going to use an unlocked AT&T Atrix in Europe.
I am on 1.83 firmware with root (made with gingerbreak to get rid of AT&T boot animation etc.).
If I go on with unlocking the bootloader, can I flash any european sbf/rom? Are there any simfree european tock sbf/rom-s out there, and which is best? What about the french 2.1.1 sbf?
I just need a stable stock firmware without the AT&T limitations, do not want changing roms all the time.
Also, do I get sw updates if I do this?
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Has any one made a safe way to flash back to 2.2 without bricking the phone ? I don't like 2.3 at all and would like to flash back till it comes out officaly and the bugs are gone.
Yes. I unlocked my AT&T Atrix to flash 2.3.4. I had no issues flashing 2.3.4 but didn't really like the ROM. I installed the (full) 1.83 SBF using RSD lite and had no issues with the downgrade.
Be sure you use the full SBF, if you use a service release you will run into issues.
I flashed the 4.1.83 SBF, but the "Unlocked" disappeared from the boot screen. I suppose that's good if you need to send your phone back for warranty service, hehe. However, I like to see that my phone is unlocked every time I reboot it so I just flashed the unlock SBF again to get it back. You just have to flash it, not go through the unlock ID and all that.
Tikerz said:
I flashed the 4.1.83 SBF, but the "Unlocked" disappeared from the boot screen. I suppose that's good if you need to send your phone back for warranty service, hehe. However, I like to see that my phone is unlocked every time I reboot it so I just flashed the unlock SBF again to get it back. You just have to flash it, not go through the unlock ID and all that.
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It's not as good as you think. The phone is still unlocked, the indicator just disappears. If you try to re-flash the unlock SBF, it won't write and you'll get a message that the phone is already unlocked.
Once unlocked, I'm pretty sure that it stays that way (unless Motorola re-locks it).
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Has any one made a safe way to flash back to 2.2 without bricking the phone ? I don't like 2.3 at all and would like to flash back till it comes out officaly and the bugs are gone.
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This is why u always backup before u flash anything.
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Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
I got root using the /preinstall method with those 2 .bat files posted yesterday.
From page 30-35 is the guidance I followed from mramirezusa.
Other than that we are in the same boat.. I read puddings will flash relatively safely.http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1159950&page=30
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
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Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader? yes use pudding
cthomas5714 said:
Okay guys, i flashed the 2.3.4 ota as soon as it came out (before all this trouble with it of course) and now i am stuck because i was under the impression that the new bootloader would be unlocked so i had never even though about eating any pudding before the fact. Now i come to my trouble, im running a totally stock 2.3.4 att and i cant seem to find a way out.
Question #1- If i have a locked bootloader can i fruitcake back?
Question #2- Is there a possible way to unlock the new bootloader?
Question #3- How in heck do i get root, im on windows 7 and i recently tried the two bat files that one of the devs released and they were a no go, it didnt seem to flash the preinstall when i tried to look for it, it wasnt there. I have been quietly trying to fix this on my own for days now i am asking for a little help. Im stumped.
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hey man first things first. dont panic, you are not stuck. this is temporary at best, in the mean while theres plenty of stuff you can do, sbf is not safe to begin with. so actually be gladd you only got to use RSD one time
first things first, get yourselfed unlocked, pudding will do the trick. once after pudding, you never have to touch RSD
Once you are done with pudding go ahead and get tenfars unlocked cwm
once you are done with that you are free to flash pretty much all the roms, as usually custom roms, or fruit cakes dont have bl, only the rest
enjoy
Okay guys, thanks for your help. but let me get this clear, i do not have a unlocked bootloader, im a pudding virgin. I can simply rsd the 1.83 with pudding and thats it? No worries no nothing?
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Okay guys, thanks for your help. but let me get this clear, i do not have a unlocked bootloader, im a pudding virgin. I can simply rsd the 1.83 with pudding and thats it? No worries no nothing?
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Yes but you still can't use any other sbf. I'd use the raw pudding sbf, unlock, then use CWM from here on out. No more rsd
Sorry about that. There is just the unlock and then the unlock packaged with 1.8.3. The one that has has been causing bricks from my understanding is the packaged one. Be sure you flash just the unlock.
Anyone know what exactly will be erased from /data after flashing the unlock? Also I don't want to restore backed up files that will conflict with new ones. Any guidance on this is appreciated.
snudmusk said:
Sorry about that. There is just the unlock and then the unlock packaged with 1.8.3. The one that has has been causing bricks from my understanding is the packaged one. Be sure you flash just the unlock.
Anyone know what exactly will be erased from /data after flashing the unlock? Also I don't want to restore backed up files that will conflict with new ones. Any guidance on this is appreciated.
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All user data is wiped when unlocking. The 1.8.3 sbf with pudding is safe to flash but i recommend just using pudding and then CWM and ditch rsd.
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All user data is wiped when unlocking. The 1.8.3 sbf with pudding is safe to flash but i recommend just using pudding and then CWM and ditch rsd.
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Agree, just use the pudding only sbf. to unlock , then preinstall to get root.
Make sure to have 50 or so battery so you don't run into the trouble I had with battery being to low to fastboot. Also once you flash pudding you wont be able to boot the phone, don't panic just follow steps to fastboot oem unlock and phone will boot fine afterwards.
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woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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Which did you flash? Pudding or 1.8.3 with pudding?
Try connecting your phone to pc select fastboot and finish the pudding instructions (fastboot oem unlock)
It might boot then.
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Here is what I did.
1. If you were to update to the OTA 4.5.91. Or already on the OTA 4.5.91 you can still unlock your bootloader.
2. Flash pudding only SBF so you can unlock the bootloader. http://diamantephoto.com/fastboot.rar direct link. Flash this one.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1136261 Original Post about pudding.
It will go to a text only 14 option screen and say something like boot failed 0x1000. Don't freak out and tell me you bricked you phone blah blah blah. You still have to unlock the bootloader by choosing fastboot from your phone and connecting it to the computer via usb. Make sure you have ADB with fastboot tools installed on you computer.
Open command prompt from you computer and type fastboot oem unlock. It'll display warning about voiding warranty and a unique device id. Type again fastboot oem unlock ############. The # are the unique device numbers. Don't type # it wont work. The instructions are posted on the pudding thread if you would like to read more about it.
Then type fastboot reboot to reboot. Unlock should be displayed on top left of screen and it'll take 5 long mins to boot up.
3.Then you need to install CWM and root.
You'll find instructions in the developers form. But if your lazy here is the CWM link. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138541 follow the instructions or every time you reboot you will loose CWM. For root there are two available for gingerbread. http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1140110 I used this one and got root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show....php?t=1138204 I hear this works too.. Haven't tested read the post if you want to use this method.
As always don't blame me for bricking if you happen to do so. DO IT AT YOUR OWN RISK. these are the steps I took to unlock and everything works great. Absolutely no problems with my phone after wards.
One thing unlocking your bootloader will format/erase data. Basically a factory data reset so make sure you backup everything with titanium or you favorite app. I would not restore system apps as i've had a few problems with email and motoblur force closes.
Is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader?
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Is there a way to root without unlocking the bootloader?
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Yes.
Follow the instructions listed on here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=15023030
The 3rd post has the instructions I followed.
If you have problems be sure to read through the thread as someone else has most likely already had the same issue.
This worked for me.
cthomas5714 said:
woahh no bad idea, im scared. I did exactly as you all said and it acts like its hard bricked, SVF:105 error but then it says no OS detected and i have 14 options
1RSD
2Fastboot
3Nvflash
4-9BP something
9Android recovery
10Boot android (no bp)
11Device UID
12Console
13early usb enumeration
14BP tools
WHAT DO I DO?
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Just do: fastboot oem unlock (or whatever tthe code is)
Them: fastboot reboot
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Hello to all
I receive an atrix 4g locked to at&t usa. I unlocked with a code, after i unlock the BL.
I install cwm and romracer and flash CM7(2.3.6) rom from sd.
After i flash Darkside(2.3.5) rom. Now i want to return back to stock.
I have some small problems, the soft keys light is very dimm and the wifi signal is very low compared with my previous iphone 4.
The question is: is it safe to flash 4.5.91(2.3.4) stock sbf with rsd?
I know that the other option are fruitcakes but i just want to know if i can flash this vers with rsd.
System version: 4.5.133.mb860.att.en.us
Android version 2.3.5
Baseband: N_01.77.30P
I read many threads about but i'm still in the "fog". I know that the answer is somewere on the forum and sorry for opening another thread.
Thanks a lot for understanding.
While it's not recommended to use RSDlite after unlocking the bootloader, it will work as long as you only use the 4.5.91 GB2.3.4 SBF (signed). I have done it twice but at my own risk of course.
If you need to return to stock you can flash the fruitcakes, which are stock files. This method is definitely recommended over sbf.
M_Alin said:
Hello to all
I receive an atrix 4g locked to at&t usa. I unlocked with a code, after i unlock the BL.
I install cwm and romracer and flash CM7(2.3.6) rom from sd.
After i flash Darkside(2.3.5) rom. Now i want to return back to stock.
I have some small problems, the soft keys light is very dimm and the wifi signal is very low compared with my previous iphone 4.
The question is: is it safe to flash 4.5.91(2.3.4) stock sbf with rsd?
I know that the other option are fruitcakes but i just want to know if i can flash this vers with rsd.
System version: 4.5.133.mb860.att.en.us
Android version 2.3.5
Baseband: N_01.77.30P
I read many threads about but i'm still in the "fog". I know that the answer is somewere on the forum and sorry for opening another thread.
Thanks a lot for understanding.
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While it's not recommended to use RSDlite after unlocking the bootloader, it will work as long as you only use the 4.5.91 GB2.3.4 SBF (signed). I have done it twice but at my own risk of course.
If you need to return to stock you can flash the fruitcakes, which are stock files. This method is definitely recommended over sbf.
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Will flashing the SBF via RSD re-lock the bootloader? I need to take my phone in for a warranty swap (hardware issue) and don't want them to know I unlocked the phone.
It will hide the "unlocked" text during boot but it does not actually re-lock the bootloader. But when you think about it, even though they never intended for the end user to unlock the phone (hence the encrypted/locked bootloader), they still put the warning in if/when anyone unlocked the bootloader. It's there for a reason but I doubt they will find out.
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Will flashing the SBF via RSD re-lock the bootloader? I need to take my phone in for a warranty swap (hardware issue) and don't want them to know I unlocked the phone.
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live4nyy said:
It will hide the "unlocked" text during boot but it does not actually re-lock the bootloader. But when you think about it, even though they never intended for the end user to unlock the phone (hence the encrypted/locked bootloader), they still put the warning in if/when anyone unlocked the bootloader. It's there for a reason but I doubt they will find out.
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So yeah I was impatient and tried to flash it without waiting for a reply. It kept failing and then all I would get on my phone was "Failed to boot 4 Starting RSD Protocol".
I ended up having to re-flash pudding, which was an adventure in itself (upgrading RSD, rebooting computer, trying different USB ports & cables before it would finally take). I think I will just take it in tomorrow even with it saying "Unlocked" and see if they will swap it out. I'm having touch screen issues with intermittent dead spots and ghost touches.
Did you try the stock SBF with the same combination of port and cable as you did when you successfully flashed pudding? I've heard those two factors can cause a bad flash in the past. I've read that a back port on the computer is recommended for sufficient power and using the actual OEM cable the phone came with is highly recommended as well.
Oh well, hope you get it swapped out, the people at the AT&T stores (if that's where you got it) usually don't pay no mind to that anyways.
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So yeah I was impatient and tried to flash it without waiting for a reply. It kept failing and then all I would get on my phone was "Failed to boot 4 Starting RSD Protocol".
I ended up having to re-flash pudding, which was an adventure in itself (upgrading RSD, rebooting computer, trying different USB ports & cables before it would finally take). I think I will just take it in tomorrow even with it saying "Unlocked" and see if they will swap it out. I'm having touch screen issues with intermittent dead spots and ghost touches.
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Hi,
I do have the same kind of query. I have AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G. I unlocked SIM, unlocked BL, rooted and installed CWM recovery, De-dexed and Webtop over HDMI hacked. I am still on AT&T Stock ROM 2.3.4 / Build # 4.5.91
I am facing random reboot problem while using 3G data service. I want to re-flash Stock 2.3.4 ROM. As per your reply in this thread I can only do this by flashing Fruitcakes as I have unlocked BL ... right? But in this link I am bit confused which file to download and flash amongst 2.3.4 / 2.3.5 att 4.5.133 / ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6? Also, after flashing a fruitcake can I still flash a custom ROM later on and at any point of time revert back to stock?
Thanks so much.
live4nyy said:
While it's not recommended to use RSDlite after unlocking the bootloader, it will work as long as you only use the 4.5.91 GB2.3.4 SBF (signed). I have done it twice but at my own risk of course.
If you need to return to stock you can flash the fruitcakes, which are stock files. This method is definitely recommended over sbf.
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If you want to go back to stock, as in the last "Official" build released by Motorola, then you want the 2.3.4 build. And as long as you use the fruitcakes you can go back to a custom rom at any time.
sony108 said:
Hi,
I do have the same kind of query. I have AT&T Motorola Atrix 4G. I unlocked SIM, unlocked BL, rooted and installed CWM recovery, De-dexed and Webtop over HDMI hacked. I am still on AT&T Stock ROM 2.3.4 / Build # 4.5.91
I am facing random reboot problem while using 3G data service. I want to re-flash Stock 2.3.4 ROM. As per your reply in this thread I can only do this by flashing Fruitcakes as I have unlocked BL ... right? But in this link I am bit confused which file to download and flash amongst 2.3.4 / 2.3.5 att 4.5.133 / ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6? Also, after flashing a fruitcake can I still flash a custom ROM later on and at any point of time revert back to stock?
Thanks so much.
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Thanks for your early reply ... Just one thing more I wanna ask that if I flash ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6 fruitcake, then can I flash ATT 2.3.4 - 4.5.91 over it? Is the brick warning for going back to stock ATT ROM only after having BL unlocked?
Thanks for your help
live4nyy said:
If you want to go back to stock, as in the last "Official" build released by Motorola, then you want the 2.3.4 build. And as long as you use the fruitcakes you can go back to a custom rom at any time.
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Yes, you can flash 2.3.4 fruitcake over a 2.3.6 fruitcake. Just make sure to do the "wipes" (clear data/cache/factory reset/fastboot wipe/etc).
As far as I understand, the fruitcakes will not brick your device, as long as you follow the directions. The risk for bricking applies to using an SBF file and RSDlite.
sony108 said:
Thanks for your early reply ... Just one thing more I wanna ask that if I flash ATT 4.5.140 - 2.3.6 fruitcake, then can I flash ATT 2.3.4 - 4.5.91 over it? Is the brick warning for going back to stock ATT ROM only after having BL unlocked?
Thanks for your help
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I pudding unlocked my bootloader, but now due to some issues I want to relock it. I have no problem removing pudding (nopudding4u.sbf) and the "UNLOCKED" disappears from the start screen, but it's not actually locked like the way I got it.
To test, I 'relocked' with nopudding4u, then went through the process of unlocking again: derpunlock.sbf, fastboot oem unlock. Fastboot tells me "Phone is already unlocked" instead of "unlocking", meaning it's still unlocked.
How can I get the phone to be 100% back to the way it was when I purchased it?
After you flash the no pudding for you, you have to use rsd lite to flash the stock sbf file back onto the phone. Then you will be just like you purchased it.
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I needed to see about getting my electrify courier unlocked from USC. Phone was bootloader unlocked, rooted and running Paranoid Android 2.99. Guys at USC could not unlock because the phone did not have motorola tools on it? So they suggested that I put the phone back to factory and then bring it back. So I snagged the 2.3.4 stock USC image and attempted to RSD it to the phone. Got through about half of the flash and the phone crashed? Log states "Error switching phone to BP Pass through mode." Now the device states "Failed to boot 1" when powering on normally, cannot access RSD mode but I can access fastboot mode. Is there anything I can do?
read through several threads over the past few days. Got the phone to RSD using temp bootloader unlock and tried to flash 2.3.5 sbf just so I could get going. Now I am stuck with locked bootloader and no access to RSD looks like the electrify is a paperweight now.
nubleeet said:
read through several threads over the past few days. Got the phone to RSD using temp bootloader unlock and tried to flash 2.3.5 sbf just so I could get going. Now I am stuck with locked bootloader and no access to RSD looks like the electrify is a paperweight now.
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This forum is pretty dead, like most of the phones. However, your critical failure was in applying the 2.3.5 SBF. Motorola booby trapped it such that it locked the boot loader permanently. There are no workarounds for an OTA/SBF installed version of 2.3.5, so even if you were able to get it up and running, you are forever stuck with it.
That said, you can probably still get into RSD mode using the bootloader to attempt a reflash of 2.3.5. There is a boot menu option for enabling it. I can't seem to find the thread, but it's around here somewhere.