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i dont mean to rush the developers by thiis but more a question of curiosity
will the 2.2 froyo rom make it out of beta and into a stable rom with total funcionality?
because i already see a gingerbread rom up too lol how would a gingerbread rom pop up before the froyo was finished?
EDIT -- i get it, stupid question and i apologize if i offended anybody
It's a polite way to say it but its still rude. I have beta 4 for freex10 2.2 and its pretty stable, but it has its bugs. Camera even works with an app called vignette. Camcorder works with videocamera illusion. Its not done but I use it for everyday use without an issue. You should try it.
And I too use beta3 with vignette and. Videcam illusion and no problems at all, no reboots or weird activity or anything....better than what I was getting from 1. 6 or 2.1 that's for sure.
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Although 2.3 is out, 2.2 is better than 2.1 in my opinion because of its faster speed. It's much cleaner and without a lot of junk like 2.1 has. The themes are also really cool too. I usually don't find any problems with it much unless you happen to bring something from 2.1 to 2.2 which might screw things up a little.
Since it's so easy why don't you develop a 2.2 rom then?
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Since it's so easy why don't you develop a 2.2 rom then?
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+1 LOL
You're nasty
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Although 2.3 is out, 2.2 is better than 2.1 in my opinion because of its faster speed. It's much cleaner and without a lot of junk like 2.1 has. The themes are also really cool too. I usually don't find any problems with it much unless you happen to bring something from 2.1 to 2.2 which might screw things up a little.
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So say I wanted to go back to android 2.1.1 with all the sony stuff in it. What would I do?
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So say I wanted to go back to android 2.1.1 with all the sony stuff in it. What would I do?
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Click the repair button in seus
once again .. didint mean to rush or be rude or anything, just curious to see if 2.2 wouldnt get completed as a result of trying to perfect the newcomer 2.3
i know these devs are doing this for us, and they are doing a fantastic jjob
since i joined xda i have learned alot and done a few mods, but im still a bit skeptical about jumping into a beta rom in case of problems, my phone is something i need to work anytime no excuses.. i cant afford to be caught with a phone that doesnt call out or something
I'm sure z will finish his at some point. As will trip and the others. Just relax at this point and use what you can to speed up 2.1. Once they are final then make a jump. I run the cyanogen combo rom as a daily and haven't had too many bugs but if you need rock solid stability stick with se firmware for now.
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There's no possible way for u to really rush anything anyway. So it just comes off as being rude.
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Hey whats your quadrant score with this with an x10a
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I'm sure z will finish his at some point. As will trip and the others. Just relax at this point and use what you can to speed up 2.1. Once they are final then make a jump. I run the cyanogen combo rom as a daily and haven't had too many bugs but if you need rock solid stability stick with se firmware for now.
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thank you for a polite answer to a dumb question
I love the beta⁴ does every thing I need it for. I do hope we end up with HD video recording, but even if it never happens this is a quantum leap over 1.6 that SE delivered
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I installed wolfbreaks free 2.2/cm mod rom. I'd had a couple of 2.1 roms but took the plunge, the difference is pretty amazing. Quadrant score is 13500-14000 with apps, totally stable and a world apart from 1.6...
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I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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I have always been confused by members who complain about the official SE firmware and the SE devs being completely incompetent and slow, when all of the custom ROMs have insufficiencies of their own and the devs are considered Gods. Especially, when our devs haven't brought us any of the major implementations themselves, like fully functional camera, 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch.
No offense to our devs, because they have limitations by bootloader, but the problem isn't just bootloader, it's having someone who can create all the drivers, which was the case before bypass.
What is important to you? Fully functional or speed? Which bugs are major? A little lag on timescape or rebooting, or a touchscreen that freezes or becomes partially unresponsive?
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Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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Repost in general discussion i think it would be more usefull there
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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It's a Question, dumby. How about an actual opinion rather than playing moderator?
Many people have questions about the differences between custom ROMs and official firmware.
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Okay chill out a lot of things in general section are questions not trying to “play moderator“ more people look in general discussion anyways.Just tryin to help out
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What about fully functional AND fast? try wolfbreak's rom
Jokes aside, remember that SE gave up on x10 updates before going back on their decision and giving us gingerbread. And honestly, only the 2.3 custom roms don't have fully working cameras, Froyo is pretty much complete and has been my daily rom for many months now, i can't thank SE for that.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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My confusion continues.....
There are ZERO 2.2+ ROMS that are fully functional. PERIOD.
Why do xda fanboys seem to think different?
If SE released a ROM that didn't have a fully functional camera, xda members would lose it.
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2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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2,2 roms dont have camera zoom ooooh big deal
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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Multitouch does
You can record audio on a lot of 2.2
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Again, it is not fully functional or not working. You are the "perfect" example of xda dev "Immortality".
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Correct flash, zoom, or audio recording.
Official firmware only has lag on certain stock apps like Timescape or Face Recognition. Oh big deal.
Is 60 fps cap, 16mil colors, or multitouch a big deal? Not Really. It doesn't make our phones more usefull.
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I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Why not try out ericks 2.1 rom which is extremely fast, like gingerbread speeds and literally everything works. Want teether then grab barnacle for free off the market. This rom has been my daily for perhaps a week or two at a guess but you won't be disappointed with broken features etc. Trust me really worth a shot trying it out
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The Gingerbread Man said:
I know what your going to say to me, your thinking I'm jumping down your throat etc but you've answered your own question there. Repair with seus then root and optimise with flashtool. That way your phone will be fully functional and fast with the benefits from JIT etc. Hope this helps out
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Absolutely not, this is about the differences between firmware and custom ROMs. We already know the differences. I just wanted to know who is a bigger majority...fully functional vs custom ROMs.
If you or any other moron suggests that speed is the number one customer concern of software, you are STUPID.
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Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. I edited my previous post, check over that last bit I added. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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Here I say you can have both, full functionality and speed. The I edited my previous post, check that last bit I added over. Oh btw really I'm not here to make arguments etc with you just purely to offer a little advice man. Peace, no need to call me stupid etc lol
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
The Gingerbread Man said:
A suggestion, if your trying to find majority between custom rom and official why not call your thread 'custom roms VS stock, votes please' or something
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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NAME ONE ROM THAT IS FULLY FUNCTIONAL, and a fast Custom ROM at same time. You are a liar.
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No, check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941745 fully functional and possibly the fastest rom out there. Camera and video recording work 100% perfect. It's a custom rom, it all works, its fast and i wish you try it out before accusing me of being a liar.
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My daily choose of rom for about 2 weeks, i left cm7 for this
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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The reason Erick's rom is so speedy is that many features(which most people do not use) are disabled. Once you add them on again, the speed is comparable to stock firmware. I would say that is the closest 'custom rom' to being fully functional.
All the 2.2+ roms, while very nice and speedy, often have things that don't work.. like camera, and all of them suffer from poor battery life. A big gripe for me is the wifi disconnect issue with all 2.2 and above custom roms. I find it hard to believe that most people would prefer speed over functionality.
I've tried most of the roms out there in my year with the x10, and I always found myself coming back to stock.
And now with the arc, I don't have a choice There are no custom roms for bootloader locked arcs
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I dunno man, iv been running it in a few different versions over last couple of weeks and if you apply all extras like me id still say much faster than stock.
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It's not about the differences between versions. It's about camera vs load speed.
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I don't see either camera or load speed in your title for this thread.
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Hey guys,
Downloaded temple run today, was so pumped until I played it and realized that touch swiping wasnt accurate (i'd swipe left and would just continue and fall ij water) and the game was a little choppy. Running Turl's v9 CM9, btw. Any of you guys experience similar issues?
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Yup. Its a touch issue with the CM9 ROMs.
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I'm on stock Gingerbread and rooted. Temple Run plays flawlessly on my Atrix. No lagging at all. Control is also better/more accurate on my Atrix than on my Kindle Fire, HTC EVO View 4G tablet, or my mother-in-law's HTC phone (Incredible?). Haven't tried it yet on my wife's iPhone 4 or iPad 2 though. But on Android, I'm very happy with how it runs on my Atrix. Now, if I could just get past 50,000 points
I'm on cm7 and it runs perfectly with no issues. I've been playing it all day non stop.
i felt a little not smooth as i run it on ios devices.btw,i'm running stock gb rom.
so from what i'm reading here, I guess it's safe to assume that it's an issue with cm9 drivers.
well this sucks because I love Temple Run, but dont think i will b going back to GB for temple run....
namangupta9 said:
so from what i'm reading here, I guess it's safe to assume that it's an issue with cm9 drivers.
well this sucks because I love Temple Run, but dont think i will b going back to GB for temple run....
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That is unfortunately the trade off for now.
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the performance quite ok..a little lag playing with internet on. using on asia retail gingerbread
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As far as I could understand, the bug with CM9 is not only for the Atrix, but for all the devices that are running an ICS version, it has something to do with drivers or some other lie...
no problems on my jokersax cm9 atrix.
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actually. yeah. it has problems with touch. doesn't ever go the right way.
Exactly the same problem on miui ics rom as well
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No problem with 2.3.4 stock Rom.
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Hey guys,
Downloaded temple run today, was so pumped until I played it and realized that touch swiping wasnt accurate (i'd swipe left and would just continue and fall ij water) and the game was a little choppy. Running Turl's v9 CM9, btw. Any of you guys experience similar issues?
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From a video I saw on a review of temple run, the guy played it on a galaxy nexus and it lagged and crashed, so I guess its not optimized for the ICS framework which is weird
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Works well on nottachtrix rom...
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The game works perfectly fine for 95% of the time but there are times when it slows down significantly for example when there are a lot of objects to render at the same time.
Yeah I'm on MIUI v4 ICS based on CM9 and my swipes always go the wrong way. So bummed but I'll never leave MIUI. Gonna subscribe to this thread in hopes that any fixes or updates will be posted here.
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Yeah I'm on MIUI v4 ICS based on CM9 and my swipes always go the wrong way. So bummed but I'll never leave MIUI. Gonna subscribe to this thread in hopes that any fixes or updates will be posted here.
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Its performance is rom specific and does not function correctly on cm9 roms or the miui roms built off of it I guess so until those roms get there libs and drivers straight certain games are a no go
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Same issue here.
I'm having the same issue on Neutrino v2.6. Choppy as heck, while other games run flawlessly.
Atrix_Owner said:
The game works perfectly fine for 95% of the time but there are times when it slows down significantly for example when there are a lot of objects to render at the same time.
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Same here choppy as hell can't play
Running cm7
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I bought I9100G few weeks back and its working great. Upgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.6 and now i have No lagsand all great games like NOVA 3, shadowgun and other heavy games are working flawlessly. Plus i am getting great backup times as well.
But the two questions that are in my head nowadays is that
1) Is it worth flashing (Indian) ICS 4.0.3 on my S2G ? will it give me benefits like better battery backup, better 3D game performances and others? can someone provide with the changelog or the features that anyone noticed when they upgraded to 4.0.3?
2) Will flashing void my warranty?
Waiting for replies .. Thanks
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I bought I9100G few weeks back and its working great. Upgraded to Gingerbread 2.3.6 and now i have No lagsand all great games like NOVA 3, shadowgun and other heavy games are working flawlessly. Plus i am getting great backup times as well.
But the two questions that are in my head nowadays is that
1) Is it worth flashing (Indian) ICS 4.0.3 on my S2G ? will it give me benefits like better battery backup, better 3D game performances and others? can someone provide with the changelog or the features that anyone noticed when they upgraded to 4.0.3?
2) Will flashing void my warranty?
Waiting for replies .. Thanks
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If you are happy with gb then stay with it. Many users including me are facing 3d performance problems with ics and many other problems.
Even cm9 is having problems with cam and 3d performance.
So u should stay with gb. Ics is nothing. You can easily having ics UI by using launchers on Google play .
Again, gb is good enough for u to stick with it.
PS : flashing it won't void your warranty.
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First things first. This is a developer forum. If you have inquiries please post in the Q&A Forum.
And for sticking to GB or ICS. its' all user preference. You can try ICS and if you don't like you can go back to GB
codybank_789 said:
If you are happy with gb then stay with it. Many users including me are facing 3d performance problems with ics and many other problems.
Even cm9 is having problems with cam and 3d performance.
So u should stay with gb. Ics is nothing. You can easily having ics UI by using launchers on Google play .
Again, gb is good enough for u to stick with it.
PS : flashing it won't void your warranty.
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What kinda problems you are facing and were u facing them when u were on GB? plus can tell me the features on ICS for G users?
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What kinda problems you are facing and were u facing them when u were on GB? plus can tell me the features on ICS for G users?
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In gb : I have no problem at all.
Games like mc3, nova 3, asphalt work well. HD video played very smooth.
In stock ics : bad 3d performance, heating up easily, drop signal, some lag but acceptable when play HD video.
In cm 9 : normal 3d performance. Sometime heats up. Drop signal sometimes. A lots problem with camera like focus .... HD video is very laggy, can't watch it.
But in cm9, UI is smoother and you have horse power kernel to play with. U can oc CPU and gpu ....
Your decision to flash it or not.
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What part of this sticky topic do you not understand??
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1769247
[EDIT] Topic has now been moved.
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First things first. This is a developer forum. If you have inquiries please post in the Q&A Forum.
And for sticking to GB or ICS. its' all user preference. You can try ICS and if you don't like you can go back to GB
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so all people are experencing problems in ICS ? isnt there anyone who have been impressed with it? plus if i dont like it how can i revert back to 2.3.6. of GB ? through 0din?
Yep. Same way.
As you can see my situation is quite simple. I'm still using GB on my Xperia S. And as more apps start to get that ICS look. I start thinking more about upgrading to ICS.
So... Is it already worth upgrading to it? Are most bugs ironed out and such?
Cause to be honest, I love my phone as it is currently. It works fine as it is and there isn't much a need to upgrade.
I dont see any bugs.
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As you can see my situation is quite simple. I'm still using GB. And as more apps start to get that ICS look. I start thinking more about upgrading to ICS.
So... Is it already worth upgrading to it? Are most bugs ironed out and such?
Cause to be honest, I love my phone as it is currently. It works fine as it is and there isn't much a needto upgrade.
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In my opinion .2.50 is running very nicely and is worth the update.
running very smooth I didn't find any bugs ICS is great on my device
kekkle said:
As you can see my situation is quite simple. I'm still using GB. And as more apps start to get that ICS look. I start thinking more about upgrading to ICS.
So... Is it already worth upgrading to it? Are most bugs ironed out and such?
Cause to be honest, I love my phone as it is currently. It works fine as it is and there isn't much a needto upgrade.
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What phone model you have? For Xperia P upgrade to ICS is necessary - better interface, faster and smoother than GB! After upgrading to ICS I forget about unlocking bootloader, becouse stock ROM is good enought!
Hey guys who are using ICS.
Please tell me it's performance in games.
Have you find any improvements?
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Hey guys who are using ICS.
Please tell me it's performance in games.
Have you find any improvements?
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Yups, some of games run smoother than in GB. You can force gpu rendering in Dev. setting.
Thanks!
Would love to see more answers.
If the update is available, update it Asap!
You're really missing out on great stuff... 'Apex &, Nova launcher'
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Oh yes. Im using Xperia S
I'm on an Xperia P, and the most significant difference is in performance (scrolling fluidity and whatnot).
But really, I wasn't on 2.3.X long enough to get a real guage on everything that changed (I literally updated after 20 minutes out of the box).
for me sure i will update for ICS ,, but if you with unlocked BL and you want the BE then stay on GB cuz its not working with ICS with unlocked BL
but this cant stop me to prefere the ICS
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So.. Still no concrete answer around. The problem is too I can't make an backup of my GB and just try ICS out...
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So.. Still no concrete answer around. The problem is too I can't make an backup of my GB and just try ICS out...
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Ofcourse you can. Just update and if you really need to, flash a gb firmware with flashtool.
The update is worth it. Plus, ever since the .45 firmware, the performance is even better then on gb.
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