Safe to update to 2.3.4 OTA after unlock - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I unlocked my bootloader in a failed attempt to use Kenn's GB build. After many attempts im back on 1.8.3. Is it safe to use the OTA when ever it does come out despite the unlocked bootloader?

Most like yes BUT you wont be able to go back to 1.8.3 or anyflash older firmware. And if you are trying to flash kenneth build are you up to date on cwm? The old cwm wont work must be the updated version which was release 6/30/11.
Wipe and format all data before installing
Make sure you are up to date on cwm.
What error is it giving you when u try to install.
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[Q] What should I do, locked bootloader not rooted w/4.5.91 installed

I reviewed all the threads but can't resolve the information I need to plan next step!
I want to revert back to stock since I am experiencing battery drain (I believe).
I did not root or unlock before using the OTG (thumbdrive) method for insrtalling the OTA 4.5.91 zip.
After finding out that was ill advised I did not unlock and left unrooted. I have been out of town and can't backtrack throught the threads to determine what is the best course.
Is there a concise thread for my situation?
Thanks in advance
If you want to confirm your status, please adb, su, and "cat /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm" or just open the file in Root Explorer. If you see something like:
10000000000010001000300004000
Then you should NOT SBF anything from Motorola"
If you want to post your ReservedOdm to look and see if you will be fine to SBF 1.83 again
Probably you are safe if you actually installed Kenth by CDW or moto-fastboot (boot.img and system.img)
But if you actually run the update.zip or any update trought the normal android recovery screen and if you saw the following legend "updating AP20 bootloader" in that case you CAN NOT flash any SBF from Motorola
JiminSD said:
I reviewed all the threads but can't resolve the information I need to plan next step!
I want to revert back to stock since I am experiencing battery drain (I believe).
I did not root or unlock before using the OTG (thumbdrive) method for insrtalling the OTA 4.5.91 zip.
After finding out that was ill advised I did not unlock and left unrooted. I have been out of town and can't backtrack throught the threads to determine what is the best course.
Is there a concise thread for my situation?
Thanks in advance
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mramirezusa said:
If you want to confirm your status, please adb, su, and "cat /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm" or just open the file in Root Explorer. If you see something like:
10000000000010001000300004000
Then you should NOT SBF anything from Motorola"
If you want to post your ReservedOdm to look and see if you will be fine to SBF 1.83 again
Probably you are safe if you actually installed Kenth by CDW or moto-fastboot (boot.img and system.img)
But if you actually run the update.zip or any update trought the normal android recovery screen and if you saw the following legend "updating AP20 bootloader" in that case you CAN NOT flash any SBF from Motorola
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Thanks I am sure I can't flash rsd sbf, I am wondering if it is safe to root. I am not rooted nor unlocked.
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Yes it is safe to root. I am on 4.5.91 and can't flash back. I un locked rooted and installed CWM. With no issues. Wouldnt use .sbf flashes though.
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mramirezusa said:
If you want to confirm your status, please adb, su, and "cat /sys/firmware/fuse/ReservedOdm" or just open the file in Root Explorer. If you see something like:
10000000000010001000300004000
Then you should NOT SBF anything from Motorola"
If you want to post your ReservedOdm to look and see if you will be fine to SBF 1.83 again
Probably you are safe if you actually installed Kenth by CDW or moto-fastboot (boot.img and system.img)
But if you actually run the update.zip or any update trought the normal android recovery screen and if you saw the following legend "updating AP20 bootloader" in that case you CAN NOT flash any SBF from Motorola
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I am on KP's 4.5.91 beta 3...........When I look at this file I have :
10000000000010001000100004000
Now KP's version of 4.5.91 is supposed to be safe to flash back and go ahead with Moto updates. If I follow what you are saying, it cannot be done?
CaelanT said:
I am on KP's 4.5.91 beta 3...........When I look at this file I have :
10000000000010001000100004000
Now KP's version of 4.5.91 is supposed to be safe to flash back and go ahead with Moto updates. If I follow what you are saying, it cannot be done?
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10000000000010001000100004000
ok here it is:
10000000000010001000100004000
4= BL "unlock" did you ever unlock you BL with pudding?
0= BL lock
10000000000010001000100004000
1=NO UPDATE BL TO AP20 Ver. , so you applied GB by moto-fastboot process or by CDW
3=YOU HAVE A NEW BL AP20 Ver., so you indeed applied GB OTA by Android Recovery from the sdcard
so in other words the ones we are in "confirmed" brick land if we RSD any MOTOROLA SBF are the ones with "3"
So you seem you indeed apply unlock bootloader (please confirm?) but you never applied GB OTA by Android Recover update.zip, and as you already confirm you applied GB Kenneth version by CDW or moto-fastboot.
CaelanT said:
I am on KP's 4.5.91 beta 3...........When I look at this file I have :
10000000000010001000100004000
Now KP's version of 4.5.91 is supposed to be safe to flash back and go ahead with Moto updates. If I follow what you are saying, it cannot be done?
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Status
1. Locked and rooted phone
2. I ran 1.2.6 sbf with RSD to return to a stock build
3. I unrooted phone
4. I ran OTA 1.8.3
5. I ran the Motorola Build 4.5.91 "not KP's" with Motorola cable from update.zip through USB flash drive
6. "Stopped Here" this is my current state
Unfortunately I did not use KP's version, and I don't know how to check for blown fuses since I haven't rooted and did not flash pudding "stopped after flashing OTA for fear of bricking" . I believe I have read that some have installed pudding from my current state to with a recoverable softbrick and then used fast booted flashing img of 1.8.3.
can anybody verify doing this safely? Sorry if this thread is repetitive but there is much confusion in here and I was gone two days from the forum when this all was taking place.
Much appreciated.
JiminSD I recommend you to root first by preinstall method first so you can check first the "fuses" to make sure how to proceed. To do the root you DO NOT need to be "unlock". If you need help just tell and I can guide you for the root process
JiminSD said:
Unfortunately I did not use KP's version, and I don't now how to check for blown fuses since I haven't rooted and did not flash pudding "stopped after flashing OTA for fear of bricking" . I believe I have read that some have installed pudding from my current state to with a recoverable softbrick and then used fast booted flashing img of 1.8.3.
can anybody verify doing this safely? Sorry if this thread is repetitive but there is much confusion in here and I was gone two days from the forum when this all was taking place.
Much appreciated.
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mramirezusa said:
10000000000010001000100004000
ok here it is:
10000000000010001000100004000
4= BL "unlock" did you ever unlock you BL with pudding?
0= BL lock
10000000000010001000100004000
1=NO UPDATE BL TO AP20 Ver. , so you applied GB by moto-fastboot process or by CDW
3=YOU HAVE A NEW BL AP20 Ver., so you indeed applied GB OTA by Android Recovery from the sdcard
so in other words the ones we are in "confirmed" brick land if we RSD any MOTOROLA SBF are the ones with "3"
So you seem you indeed apply unlock bootloader (please confirm?) but you never applied GB OTA by Android Recover update.zip, and as you already confirm you applied GB Kenneth version by CDW or moto-fastboot.
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Yes, I unlocked with pudding following the instructions here ---> http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader, and yes I did flash KP's 4.5.91 and not the OTA.
Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated!
So you are in the group of the lucky ones that actually can RSD "full" 1.83 or 1.57
The only thing you will lost the tag "unlocked" at the startup, so to get it back just RSD pudding again
I think you are asking this to return you phone to "stock" to be able to received the official OTA from moto/att right?
CaelanT said:
Yes, I unlocked with pudding following the instructions here ---> http://briefmobile.com/how-to-unlock-the-atrix-4g-bootloader, and yes I did flash KP's 4.5.91 and not the OTA.
Thanks for the clarification. Much appreciated!
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So you are in the group of the lucky ones that actually can RSD "full" 1.83 or 1.57
The only thing you will lost the tag "unlocked" at the startup, so to get it back just RSD pudding again
I think you are asking this to return you phone to "stock" to be able to received the official OTA from moto/att right?
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I am thinking about it, but I may let some other brave souls try first, as I believe it will cause the issues the current leaked OTA has caused. My phone runs great at the moment on KP's 4.5.91.
Prior to this, I flashed back a couple of times on 4.1.83 and did what you said to get "unlocked" back on my boot screen. I think everyone is more or less worried about what the actual release version of GB might do if you are unlocked already.
I am in same situation as OP. From private discussions and reading different threads it seems that I can go from stock 2.3.4 OTA (no mods) with a locked bootloader to anything if I just use the small unlock/pudding followed by fastboot unlock commands and fastboot install cwm....then fruitcakes or any rom should be good to go. But im waiting for GB to go fully public....just gonna enjoy 2.3.4 for now until everything is all sorted out.
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Agree. I think the first things to do when the real OTA is out is actually compare with the leak one, so at least we have an idea how to proceed.
Good Luck!
CaelanT said:
I am thinking about it, but I may let some other brave souls try first, as I believe it will cause the issues the current leaked OTA has caused. My phone runs great at the moment on KP's 4.5.91.
Prior to this, I flashed back a couple of times on 4.1.83 and did what you said to get "unlocked" back on my boot screen. I think everyone is more or less worried about what the actual release version of GB might do if you are unlocked already.
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Sorry but this is NOT TRUE:
"I can go from stock 2.3.4 OTA (no mods) with a locked bootloader to anything "
Anything in this case mean: NEED TO UNLOCK BL, NEED TO APPLIED ANY ROM BY CWM OR MOTO-FASTBOOT WAY
But here it is the CONs: UNTIL TODAY IF YOU APPLIED THE LEAK STOCK GB YOU CAN NOT RSD ANY MOTOROLA SBF, THAT MEAN INCLUDED GB SBF BECAUSE IS NOT OUT THERE YET, SO YOU NEVER WILL GET BACT TO "REAL" STOCK OR BE SURE 100% YOU CAN RECEIVED IN THE FUTURE ANY OTA DIRECTLY FROM MOTO/ATT IS NOT BEEN TESTED YET
NibblerWeather said:
I am in same situation as OP. From private discussions and reading different threads it seems that I can go from stock 2.3.4 OTA (no mods) with a locked bootloader to anything if I just use the small unlock/pudding followed by fastboot unlock commands and fastboot install cwm....then fruitcakes or any rom should be good to go. But im waiting for GB to go fully public....just gonna enjoy 2.3.4 for now until everything is all sorted out.
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Good clarification mrramirez.
My bad...should not have carelessly said "any". If ur on OTA 2.3.4 just stay put, and stay away from moto sbf
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Thanks to all my question has been answered. I will stay put and not install any sbf's regardless of source until the new OTA is studied by developers.

4.5.91 Update

Hello Atrix users! I recently just received this phone about a week ago and have rooted, unlocked the bootloader and also flashed the cwm. Now, whenever I try to update via OTA or sd card I get an error stating that the update has failed. I'm very new to Android phones and I was wondering what the procedure for updating would be? BTW I'm on 1.8.3
Thanks a lot
first of all i dont think your suppose to rsd or ota after you have unlocked the BL you have to flash GB through moto-fastboot or fastboot when u have GB on your external SD and run the commands through a command window, GOOGLE IS YOUR FRIEND and so is XDA just a do a search and you should find wat your looking for,
wat i have done is i was already on 1.8.3 and unlocked the BL, but i forgot to root the phone, and i couldnt root idk why, so i had to use the aroot method(do quick search on it) which had me rsd back to 1.2.6 then reboot, after that the words UNLOCKED where gone, so i think rsd back to 1.2.6 either took the unlock away or just got rid of the words and BL was still unlocked idk, but any way did a wi-fi ota update to 1.5.7 than ran afterupdate.bat and it retained the root, then just ran the unlock again with rsd rebooted and the words unlocked were back, but im not on 1.8.3, idk if i should try to ota to it, or rsd back to the beginning which is 1.2.6 and just ota all the way to the offical newest update of gingerbread then unlock the bl again and do the preinstall root method, thats where im stuck at,
That seems like a ton of work just for the OTA. I unlocked my boot loader and flash the cherry blur rom (v.1.4) this was the easiest way I have found to get 2.3.3 on my phone and without blur over taking the interface.
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from wat i have read you should be good with wat ever u do with rsd or flashing back to a stock rom AS LONG AS YOU HAVENT UPDATED TO THE NEWEST OTA UPDATE SENT TO YOU OTA BUT IF YOU HAVE ACCEPTED THE OTA UPDATE YOU WILL HARD BRICK YOUR PHONE IF U TRY FLASHING BACK TO A STOCK LIKE 1.2.6 i think that is how it goes from wat i have read

[Q] Need help understanding.

Ok Iv noticed that things are getting really really confusing around here with people saying one thing then someone else saying something else. I want to have a thread that is straight forward coming from people that know what they are talking about and not just assuming.
Now my phone has never had an unlocked bootloader. Before I updated to GB OTA i was on .83 rooted with all the mods added to it (webtop dock, blah, blah blah) I RSD back to .26 (that very old file) and just started doing OTA updates one by one once i logged in with my blurr account. I updated to GB via the official OTA update that was pushed to my phone when i selected to system update under settings.
I was able to Root this ATT OFFICIAL version pushed to my phone using This Pre-install method and that is all that i have done.
What i want to do now is Unlock the bootloader. From what i have read Pudding is the best way of doing this.
Q1: Does this method (Pudding) work with the Official ATT OTA version pushed to phones and not Kenns modded version, and is it the only way to unlock the bootloader?
Q2: Once unlocked what version of CWR do I install to be able to flash ROMs? Would i be able to just install ROM Manager and do the installation from there, Or possibly both ROM Manager and CWR?
Q3: Since RSD is out of the picture for me, if for some reason I'm to soft brick my phone and can still get into Recovery mode, what .sbf do i flash, would it have to be the same one that was pushed to phones that if not already available on here will be really soon?
Thanks for all the help if anyone helps out.
StyleUkno
Q2, if you unlock your phone, cwM of tenfars, the 2nd version for unlocked. Rom manager with official CWM have released before some days, but yet it doesn't support external sd.
As for question 1, and the unlocking pudding. The OTA gb you installed, might updated you bootloader, and maybe can't use that pudding.
For that be very carefull of your next steps.. Personally I would have send a pm to the2dcour, or another dev that knows as much..
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Bump to see if any other responses come.
Q1: Does this method (Pudding) work with the Official ATT OTA version pushed to phones and not Kenns modded version, and is it the only way to unlock the bootloader?
Yes, pudding works and is the only way. Have to Flash pudding and run OEM unlock command in fastboot. Because you are already on OTA, there's a high chance you will need an extra couple steps. It will likely soft brick with 0x1000 error but wit fastboot option. From there you need to fastboot and re do the oem unlock command another time. Then you are fine.
Q2: Once unlocked what version of CWR do I install to be able to flash ROMs? Would i be able to just install ROM Manager and do the installation from there, Or possibly both ROM Manager and CWR?
Tenfar's 6/30 unlocked CWM. ROM Manager version doesn't properly wipe as of yet. You can update if you dont' care about wiping, but that usually leads to boot loops when installing roms. Also most devs here are using update scripts tailored for tenfars version
Q3: Since RSD is out of the picture for me, if for some reason I'm to soft brick my phone and can still get into Recovery mode, what .sbf do i flash, would it have to be the same one that was pushed to phones that if not already available on here will be really soon?
if you softbrick (other than the initial unlock soft brick where you just run oem unlock again) then depends on what you want to get to. CWM a rom.zip/fruitcake for the version you want would be ideal. If not then a fastboot version if available. I'd RSD the GB 4.5 with pudding sbf as a last resort.
StyleUkno said:
Ok Iv noticed that things are getting really really confusing around here with people saying one thing then someone else saying something else. I want to have a thread that is straight forward coming from people that know what they are talking about and not just assuming.
Now my phone has never had an unlocked bootloader. Before I updated to GB OTA i was on .83 rooted with all the mods added to it (webtop dock, blah, blah blah) I RSD back to .26 (that very old file) and just started doing OTA updates one by one once i logged in with my blurr account. I updated to GB via the official OTA update that was pushed to my phone when i selected to system update under settings.
I was able to Root this ATT OFFICIAL version pushed to my phone using This Pre-install method and that is all that i have done.
What i want to do now is Unlock the bootloader. From what i have read Pudding is the best way of doing this.
Q1: Does this method (Pudding) work with the Official ATT OTA version pushed to phones and not Kenns modded version, and is it the only way to unlock the bootloader?
If you use the pudding you will hard brick on the OTA (from what people have been saying)
Q2: Once unlocked what version of CWR do I install to be able to flash ROMs? Would i be able to just install ROM Manager and do the installation from there, Or possibly both ROM Manager and CWR?
Out of the picture becuase you cant unlock I think
Q3: Since RSD is out of the picture for me, if for some reason I'm to soft brick my phone and can still get into Recovery mode, what .sbf do i flash, would it have to be the same one that was pushed to phones that if not already available on here will be really soon?
Thanks for all the help if anyone helps out.
StyleUkno
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[Q] Need help in transforming my Atrix to a lean mean machine!

Hello. The subject matter says it all.
I currently have a rooted and unlocked AT&T Atrix on 1.26 version (yeah...still in ice age ) with a locked bootloader. Im with a non-US telco carrier. It came unlocked and rooted so that was great. No hassle but now I have started doing research on custom roms and webtop mods. I am trying to get around the info overload, so pls bear with my questions.
The overall goal is to have a stock/custom rom devoid of all the bloatwares and can run webtop2sd, and if that is not possible then, webtop. Very simple needs.
Option 1
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To remain on stock rom and update to 1.83 version, and then to install the webtop2sd mod. Ideally I would like to boot off Debian from the microsd card. There was a post in which a forumer mentioned that he was able to "frankenstein" the webtop2sd and webtop mods. Thats great if I understood correctly.
Option 2
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To update to 4.5.91 (probably a custom rom like Aura) and then install the webtop2sd/webtop mod.
What should be done?
I am going to update 1.26 -> 1.57 -> 1.83 -> 4.5.91 via system update. (which means I now have to signed with moto account...yes I have not as I read that there were some privacy issues.)
Through the update process, I would lose root. To keep everything clean, I am going to go through factory reset and then perform the update.
Once I am in 1.83 or 4.5.91, I will apply the root and unlock the bootloader. Which is the best way to go about this? Should I just follow the instruction here or this way. Or is there any other better way?
This is all I have for now until I install the webtop mod or the custom rom...
update your phone to wherever you want it at, then use this script to unlock the bootloader:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182871
after that, you can easily root your phone using the preinstall method found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204 (second post)
if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
I never got a semi-hard or *soft* brick from unlocking but that's just cause I must love to eat pudding =D . Do all the OTA updates, unlock / root, and then install the 2.3.4 fruitcake and install webtop. Best option by far, IMO, as far as the ease of transition goes. Should be cake. That's what I did and as long as you don't RSD lite with an .SBF back once on 2.3.4 OTA yer good to go.
eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
Install a custom kernel if ya wanna overclock or undervolt, I would personally suggest Faux123's. -http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1156040
aaand freeeze all that bloatware!-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=972459
I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
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if you update to 4.5.91 though, as you attempt to unlock the bootloader you will get a semi-hard brick, just have it boot up into fastboot mode and continue using the script. easy as pie!
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Maybe I should try to unlock it now... And then update.
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I read that its easier to update via SBF than OTA? What have your experiences been so far?
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well, i can't find it anymore but there is an SBF in the development forum that will allow you to update to 2.3.4 android without getting the brickable bootloader, but i personally don't see a point in using SBF. it's not meant for the end user, and using it can be risky.
SBF flashing is faster i believe, but as i said can also potentially harm your device if you're unsure of what you're doing.
SamCripp, one of the most esteemed devs here, suggests for the average person to completely stay away from sbf flashing after you've unlocked your bootloader unless you absolutely have to use it for something.
remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method. it WILL brick your device to downgrade, but only with the OTA update.
EDIT: and it's a semi-hard brick, it doesn't hurt your device in the least. you might panic at first, but it's as simple as booting into fastboot mode and finishing the script. or if you're more tech inclined, you can just do the fastboot oem unlock command through fastboot.
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eat yer fruitcake once updated to 2.3.4 OTA *stock gingerbread*-....
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remember though, if you use the OTA update you CANNOT downgrade your device through SBF flashing, you HAVE to use the fruitcakes method.....
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Fruitcakes??? All this jargon.... Hmmm...gotta check this out.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1163009
yep, Fruitcakes. it's a CWM alternative to sbf flashing, much safer since it doesn't edit the bootloader at all, so there's no risk in hard bricking your device.
after you unlock your bootloader, you should install Romracer's CWM recovery here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1204500
do all of your flashing through CWM after you unlock your bootloader, just remember to clear cache/dalvik/data between each ROM or you might get stuck in a bootloop.
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
tech_girl said:
Ok...CWM sounds more familiar....
If I understand correctly, I actually dont have to go via OTA. As long as I have the img file for flashing to each version, I could just use the CWM and not via OTA, right?
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well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
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well, you have to have an unlocked bootloader to get CWM. and to unlock your bootloader, you have to update to 1.8.3 or later.
after you unlock your bootloader, you can install CWM and proceed to just use CWM for your flashing needs.
i repeat again though, after you unlock your bootloader you should stay away from SBF flashing altogether. it's the quickest way to brick your device.
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Once you unlock and get CWM installed its just a case of wiping the device and flashing zip files.
Yep after unlocking and getting rom racers cwm in, you get to have lots of fun and almost zero chance of hard bricking. Make sure you understand the pudding part. After you unlock throw rsd lite away.
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
tech_girl said:
After updating to 1.83 and unlocked, can I immediately installing a GB custom rom like Aura or Alien? Or do I need to update to 4.5.91 stock before I can install a custom rom? Which I assume is pre-rooted, which mean I dont have to root it..
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You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
pukemon said:
You should be able to start flashing if you used pudding. No need to upgrade to .91 stock. I didn't. I think most roms are pre rooted now. Not that the rooting method was hard for the atrix.
I voided my warranty.
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Yep thats how it works. once BL unlocked and CWM installed you can flash anything, including yes .91 stock.
Note that .91 stock OTA is not only the operating system but also modifies the bootloader hence all the hard brick warnings about flashing sbfs. When you flash zip files you don't touch the bootloader, so there is no chance of hard bricking. i.e. if you flash .91 stock from zip file from CWM as opposed to OTA, you get only the OS, not the bootloader update (which doesn't matter ).

So Confused???

Ok about to get a atrix from att! So i need to understand some stuff. IVE SEARCHED
So if you unlock the bootloader you can never sbf back to i guess a froyo build using sbf?(1.83 is froyo i guessing) if you get the phone with GB build on it?
Reading the Automatic bootloader thread i see this on the OP Main Post:
* CONFIRMED, IS SAFE TO RSD THIS SPECIFIC SBF FROM MOTOROLA:
1FF-olympus-user-2.3.4-4.5.91-110625-release-keys-signed-ATT-US-GAS_NA_OLPSGBATTSPE_P011.sbf
MD5: 56721d893e43b814e95683a00b165555
SHA1: e00786e975b4f1d9fba2ff90c1ee6bbf95bb47b2
SO NOW ON FOR UNLOCKED BOOTLOADER USERS THIS CAN BE A BASE IF SOMETHING GO WRONG AND YOU NEED OUT OF THE BOX STATE FROM MOTOROLA
Need to be flash with RSDlite V5.3.1
Now lets say that the phone i get from att, will be on froyo. Do i need to:
go to system updates and install OTA GB build
Then follow the automatic bootloader thread?
Then i see this thread talking about something different on my searches?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1138204
Any clarification will be thanked!
Phone will most likely come with Gingerbread. If not, OTA update, then unlock bootloader. Once you unlock the bootloader, on gingerbread, do not try to flash a eariler sbf version. First of all there is no need. Secondly, you can brick your device by doing it. If you ever want to return to a stock Gingerbread ROM after unlocking bootloader, you can flash a fruitcake... but your bootloader would still be unlocked.
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Thank you for the clear up!

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