http://allthingsd.com/20110713/spri...ta-speed-throttling/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker
This is REALLY scaring me. It would be a horrible move on Sprints part.
The speeds I get are bad enough. Throttling can't possibly have any negative effects on me.
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I wanna tell you something
3D > iClone
racemepls said:
http://allthingsd.com/20110713/spri...ta-speed-throttling/?reflink=ATD_yahoo_ticker
This is REALLY scaring me. It would be a horrible move on Sprints part.
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They're throttling Virgin Mobile, not Sprint. They have plans to throttle Virgin Mobile. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388441,00.asp
Nothing to do with us.
firsttimer44 said:
The speeds I get are bad enough. Throttling can't possibly have any negative effects on me.
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This.
Data speeds are ****ty right now with all the traffic. In theory, this could increase speeds to certain people in certain areas if the other people in those areas lighten up on their data load.
Noiro said:
They're throttling Virgin Mobile, not Sprint. They have plans to throttle Virgin Mobile. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388441,00.asp
Nothing to do with us.
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This is good to hear! The headline scared me for a second. I'm already getting 5kb down and 3 kb up. I don't need to be throttled.
nate420 said:
I wanna tell you something
3D > iClone
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LMFAO......
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Noiro said:
They're throttling Virgin Mobile, not Sprint. They have plans to throttle Virgin Mobile. http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2388441,00.asp
Nothing to do with us.
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yet.........
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yet.........
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With the speeds that are claimed possible via our 3G technology their throttle threshold would have to be at a fixed point that seems reasonable to the average joe given our theoretically possible speeds...Throttling at 50% of the technology's advertised possible speed just doesn't look good to anyone. Something tells me that would be far above what any of us get in practice and as previously mentioned may actually help out in congested areas...
...for now.
Hey Sprint! Why not build out some ****ing infrastructure first and worry about this crap afterwards. You can't throttle people who can't even approach the threshold. I mean, ****, what I consider 'decent speed' is a goddamned joke...
Good luck using 2.5 GB in some areas where Sprint 3G is being rivaled by local dial-up providers.
they just launched a commercial touting how they don't throttle data or cap it so...
derp?
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they just launched a commercial touting how they don't throttle data or cap it so...
derp?
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Derp for now. Barring a breakthrough in either the way data is encapsulated or new breakthrough radio technology (which is possible in theory) not matter how much equipment they throw at the problem will not help. We have a finite amount of frequencies to work with and a finite amount of power to work with...and these frequencies are getting more and more crowded every day. Sure, you can throw a ton of towers at the problem but there will be a tipping point where that will hurt more than help. There is only so much amplitude and there are only so many frequencies...especially given the limitations inherent to a mobile technology (size, power, safety).
So far it just seems to be with Sprint's own Virgin Mobile...let's just hope they don't decide to do with their main Sprint line.........:-I
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The speeds I get are bad enough. Throttling can't possibly have any negative effects on me.
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+1 on that, what are they gonna do throttle me from 56k to 28k oooooooooo doesnt make a difference both speeds are basically worthless.
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Derp for now. Barring a breakthrough in either the way data is encapsulated or new breakthrough radio technology (which is possible in theory) not matter how much equipment they throw at the problem will not help. We have a finite amount of frequencies to work with and a finite amount of power to work with...and these frequencies are getting more and more crowded every day. Sure, you can throw a ton of towers at the problem but there will be a tipping point where that will hurt more than help. There is only so much amplitude and there are only so many frequencies...especially given the limitations inherent to a mobile technology (size, power, safety).
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If China can handle their population we can handle ours.
its all BS $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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If China can handle their population we can handle ours.
its all BS $$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Agreed...everything could be run a lot better here, but, there is a breaking point. How much throughput, how many people, spread how far apart, how much latency?
We aren't even close to the situation I described. Perhaps I didn't throw in qualifiers like "It's like pissing in the wind" or "slippery slope" or other such horse****...as I stated in a previous post we need our wireless industry to invest in their...no...our infrastructure first, but, it's an uphill battle. We can only go so far with current tech...and current tech has the potential (at scale) to push up against the boundries of what we understand of physics.
I am fully confidant that me getting 250kbps downloads on a good day is not the end of the road...likely only the begining...but I also remember a time when upgrading to a 9600 baud modem (9.6kbps=9600bps/8=1.2 kilobytes per second) made me feel like I could download anything in an hour...with a 20mbps line I still have things downloading at +1000k/ps that take days to download....so...this all scales (negatively) as you get older and technology gets better....but not as smoothly as you'd like.
edit: which reminds me. from 150 to 300 to 1200 to 2400 (and oddball 4800) and 9600 modems were measured in "baud"--modulations per second, roughly speaking...then something different happened, up into the final generation of acoustic modems (v.90/v.92 56k standards, k56flex, etc) the modems have obviously gotten much faster but the 'baud' stayed the same. Different encoding and encapsulation protocols evolved....but that left us stuck at 33.6k, and then the (very fascinating at the time) 56k technologies came into play....still at that same 9600 baud..... that is the type of technology we need, some way to encapsulate more data in the same methods/limits.
People worried about being throttled. Ever wonder if you are already being throttled. HUM........this could be why everyone has such crappy data speeds. Another HUM.......
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People worried about being throttled. Ever wonder if you are already being throttled. HUM........this could be why everyone has such crappy data speeds. Another HUM.......
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...some times I have very impressive speeds, which suggests to me that we do not at all have any throttling at all.
No, if we were all already being throttled down to these ****ty speeds we would at least have more consistent speeds...
Throttle??? You mean my speeds aren't throttled :/
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Related
http://www.phonedog.com/2011/06/17/htc-evo-3d-first-impressions/
Its not looking good for the 3D out there
EVO 3D has a 1,730 mAh battery, and with moderate use like calling, text messaging, emailing, browsing the web, and downloading a few apps (all on 3G, mind you), I was able to make it into the evening before the phone powered down. It's not the most impressive Android on the block in regards to battery life, but it should get you through the day. Kick on 3D or 4G though, and you're looking at a dramatic reduction in battery life.
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Call quality is clearly not the focus of this device. The earpiece volume is loud, but I find that the wireless radio struggles in areas where the Samsung Nexus S 4G and HTC EVO 4G don't. Sprint is mediocre at best in my office, and the EVO 3D has trouble holding on. While standing in the same place, I regularly rotate between zero, one, and two bars of service.
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and here is a pic of the data speeds from his 3D WOW
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Its all just a giant IPhone lovin Android hatin conspiracy. SCREW APPLE MAAAN.
Wow that screen looks nice. As for it showing a different number of bars then the other phones, meh. That doesn't mean much since they all use different ways of coming up with what a 'bar' means. Apple was getting slack for not having enough bars so they simply changed the algorithm to show more of them. lol
What would be nice is a side by side of the Evo 3D, an EVO 4G and a Nexus S all doing a speedtest with the same server.
I don't think people can call foul play anymore. Looks like the 3D is getting hit with problems from everyone. Oh well, I'm still getting this phone and have 30 days on what to do with it. If it sux, I'll just go back to the Nexus S cuz that phone was a great phone with incredible battery life.
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http://www.phonedog.com/2011/06/17/htc-evo-3d-first-impressions/
Its not looking good for the 3D out there
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LOL as if those are sprints speeds everywhere. I get 8 mbps regularly and I'm definitely getting this phone. Allowing a review from a location not where you live to cloud your judgement without seeing for yourself is called ignorance.
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I don't think people can call foul play anymore. Looks like the 3D is getting hit with problems from everyone. Oh well, I'm still getting this phone and have 30 days on what to do with it. If it sux, I'll just go back to the Nexus S cuz that phone was a great phone with incredible battery life.
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I dont think people were calling foul play, just pointing out that a couple of reviews (gizmodo and engadget) were incredibly negative and obviously biased. We've hear from numerous sources that the call quality isnt great though this is the first I have heard of slow data speeds, perhaps they are using a radio from Samsung... Nonetheless, positive or negative, there are some incredibly biased reviews floating around.
We may be ignoring the signs, but I will still get this phone anyway!
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Wow that screen looks nice. As for it showing a different number of bars then the other phones, meh. That doesn't mean much since they all use different ways of coming up with what a 'bar' means. Apple was getting slack for not having enough bars so they simply changed the algorithm to show more of them. lol
What would be nice is a side by side of the Evo 3D, an EVO 4G and a Nexus S all doing a speedtest with the same server.
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Its not just bars though, xHausx. Call quality and signal reliability have been reported to be very bad. Thats a legit concern for those of us who need our phones to actually work as a phone.
I'm going to be waiting to see about this before I commit to the phone.
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Its not just bars though, xHausx. Call quality and signal reliability have been reported to be very bad. Thats a legit concern for those of us who need our phones to actually work as a phone.
I'm going to be waiting to see about this before I commit to the phone.
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It didn't seem to slow sales of the iPhone... Seriously though, I agree if it doesn't work as a phone or for data (*cough* Samsung *cough*) than it certainly isn't worth owning.
My wife's Evo Shift was getting speed test results like that. It was only connecting to towers at 1X. I changed the CDMA mode to "automatic", and now it gets 2mbps in speed test. Makes me wonder if the 3d doesn't have the same issue.
I found the problem using a app called OpenSignal maps. When looking at the tower connections, it showed 1X on all of them.
Heres a couple threads about it:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1014420
http://forum.cyanogenmod.com/topic/13612-stuck-on-cdma-1xrtt/page__st__20__p__114822#entry114822
If someone gets their hands on an Evo 3d with speed issues, they should check this asap.
I don't care what any review says. This phone spec-wise is beast! And once it gets rooted and the devs dig in...FO-GEDDA-BOUT-IT
Ive also seen two reviews that praised the call quality as amazing... so...
Another first impressions report.
Not saying that they're completely wrong, just saying that I find any "first impression" video -- good or bad -- to be questionable at best.
All we know from these is that call quality and signal reception is variable. Who'd of thought?
I guess these do show us that the 3VO isn't perfect, or even spectacular in its radio performance. But neither is any other phone on the market that I know of.
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Its not just bars though, xHausx. Call quality and signal reliability have been reported to be very bad. Thats a legit concern for those of us who need our phones to actually work as a phone.
I'm going to be waiting to see about this before I commit to the phone.
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Yeah, I noticed a lot of people were saying the calls didn't sound very good. I'll still be getting one regardless but hopefully it's something that can be fixed easily.
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Those are 3g speeds
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Those are 3g speeds
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Technically, yes, because he was using the 3G radio. Also, technically, those speeds would not fall under the 3G "range". 200kbps sucks.
its a good thing you quoted that he gets the worse service in his office, yea so much for those speeds. Other reviewes have said the phone gets 6-8mb in good 4g areas, which I am in. I could care less if someone with no coverage got ****ty speeds.
80% of the review reported great data speeds. is this thread based on someones review who gets no coverage in his officre, really?
As for call quality, the good reviews have also said in good coverage areas the call quality will most likely be fine. I am sure if there is a wide issue they will adress it in an OTA. I mean it is probably using the same chip as original evo so probably the new radio for senes 3.0, hopefully they will sort it out. I haven't heard anyone say it is really bad, unless they are in really bad coverage area.
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Technically, yes, because he was using the 3G radio. Also, technically, those speeds would not fall under the 3G "range". 200kbps sucks.
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Not sure, but I would say these speeds look like 2g more than 3g.
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BTC call quality... Reception.... WiFi are all issues present in the Sensation forums.
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I dont think people were calling foul play, just pointing out that a couple of reviews (gizmodo and engadget) were incredibly negative and obviously biased. We've hear from numerous sources that the call quality isnt great though this is the first I have heard of slow data speeds, perhaps they are using a radio from Samsung... Nonetheless, positive or negative, there are some incredibly biased reviews floating around.
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LOL at the 'biased' Engadget review. The same reviewer that gave the original EVO a 9 out of 10.
Swyped from my EVO
For all the thin-skinned Evo 3D fanboys (I'm actually one of them, just not thinskinned):
1. there will be a slew of additional internet reviews this week. (just saw one)
2. they'll validate the same issues that we've already seen (just saw that)...(non have said btw, that its NOT a superb device y'know!).
3. It doesn't mean the site is 'biased'.
4. People here will evaluate, speculate, and express concern about the flaws...this is a PLACE for that.
Its just as valid as people a year ago expressing joy over the 4G also BASED ON REVIEWS...(which, btw overlooked launch issues...biased?)
Speculation is PART of the process/human nature.
5. Allow them to DO that and if you don't want to respond constructively, let them moan...skip the thread...its ok...it'll be over in 6 days.
6. Many a device has been released with similar launch issues and ended up being an awesome device.
7. The Evo 3D WILL be an awesome device.
Well if the poor call signal is true it will be going right back.I have read the 3D reviews and i really do not care about those but when people give a review that says you need to be in a strong sprint signal area then i have a problem cause the EVO worked fine in my home while older phones like the 8330 and rant would go to roaming.
In the end it is a phone and if it can't do that well then it will be a fail for me.
Care to pass on where you saw this "new" review?
mevensen said:
Care to pass on where you saw this "new" review?
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it probably wasn't new
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it probably wasn't new
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That's why I asked. I'm done with speculation and trying to decode these "reviews" (aka first impressions for most). But, if he's seen one I've missed that has real data and testing in it, I'm happy to see it, whether it's good news or bad.
RS had 1 and the call quality did stink compared to the evo signal was just not good.I hope this gets fixed
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RS had 1 and the call quality did stink compared to the evo signal was just not good.I hope this gets fixed
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I'm sorry, I'm not sure I understand your comment. Are you saying that you had the opportunity to test one at your local Radio Shack and that, compared to your current EVO, the signal meter was less and that the call quality was noticeably worse, again comparing to a call from your EVO at the same location?
If so, did you determine the signal strength by the bar display, or did you try something like SpeedTest or get a numerical signal strength? Just wondering if the difference is qualitative for you or quantitative. Thanks.
Everyone is worried this phone will turn out to be a typical Samsung phone, I have faith in HTC, whatever glitches or problems the phone might have at launch im sure will be fixed by updates. This will probably be sprints new flagship phone, and HTC didn't build a reputation by selling junk.
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Everyone is worried this phone will turn out to be a typical Samsung phone, I have faith in HTC, whatever glitches or problems the phone might have at launch im sure will be fixed by updates. This will probably be sprints new flagship phone, and HTC didn't build a reputation by selling junk.
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Well, for me, it's not about faith, it's about having a functioning handset. I don't need to upgrade from my EVO right now, I want to upgrade. If the EVO 3D needs work to become a reliable upgrade from my EVO, then I'll let it back and ignore my tendencies of being an early adopter. If, however, there is insufficient proof of problems, I may delay my purchase until HTC can make good, or prove that it can't.
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RS had 1 and the call quality did stink compared to the evo signal was just not good.I hope this gets fixed
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I was under the impression that all RS's had the Airaves in them. All the Shacks I have ever been to I have had spectacular call quality. Even in cities where I generally have crappy cell signal.
Im just board with my EVO, I've done about all there is I could do with it. Im so ready for something new.
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Im just board with my EVO, I've done about all there is I could do with it. Im so ready for something new.
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I told my wife two weeks ago that the Evo was the first phone I had that I didn't have the itch to upgrade early. Of course Sprint had to ruin that by giving me my full upgrade 12 months early.
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I told my wife two weeks ago that the Evo was the first phone I had that I didn't have the itch to upgrade early. Of course Sprint had to ruin that by giving me my full upgrade 12 months early.
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omg this post was amazing lol! I'm not board with my evo
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I was under the impression that all RS's had the Airaves in them. All the Shacks I have ever been to I have had spectacular call quality. Even in cities where I generally have crappy cell signal.
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Well, that would make things even worst, if it were true, then. That's why I asked for more specific information.
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I was under the impression that all RS's had the Airaves in them. All the Shacks I have ever been to I have had spectacular call quality. Even in cities where I generally have crappy cell signal.
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No Airaves. But some stores do have 4G repeaters. Regular signal is at the mercy of the network in the area.
I was in the same boat as you. I'm perfectly content with my EVO. Getting my upgrade a full year early with the ability to turn in my EVO for 150 or sell it for 200+ just sealed the deal. I'm doubting there will be many performance differences in the real world between my evo and 3vo until there is real dual core support in the OS.
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Well, that would make things even worst, if it were true, then. That's why I asked for more specific information.
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I've observed that for the last couple of days you've been rather preoccupied with finding exact data on this phone, and more specifically comparisons of exact data between this phone and one or more other phones. I don't know that you're gonna have much luck on that at this early stage ... the phone isn't even released yet. It would seem to me that your safest bet would probably be to simply postpone your decision to purchase any phone until the 3VO is released, and you can then at least get quick and easy access to truly massive quantities of empirical / anecdotal / subjective observations from all of the new users here and everywhere else. You still probably won't have any more raw comparative data than you do now, but at least you'll have a lot of users' opinions, which is more than you've got now.
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I was in the same boat as you. I'm perfectly content with my EVO. Getting my upgrade a full year early with the ability to turn in my EVO for 150 or sell it for 200+ just sealed the deal. I'm doubting there will be many performance differences in the real world between my evo and 3vo until there is real dual core support in the OS.
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Honestly I am not trading in my evo right away. If I like the 3d in a couple of weeks I will make the sale then.
If the 3d doesn't make it 8 hours at work (mostly in my pocket) which I am able to do with my Evo, it will go back.
If the SGS11 comes out in a month and people LOVE it on sprint (including battery life) it may go back. There is a lot of what ifs, but I am hoping for a great phone that lives up to the Evo's high standards.
How it makes calls is important to me.If the call signal is weak back it goes.
Well guys after four days with my 3vo I got to say f### the engadget review every day I love out just a little bit more just a little bit more, I gave it a kiss goodnight last night. The fps on n64iod super smash brothers is straight up ridiculous........ We did a side by side test today evo vs 3vo same game started the evo first and the 3vo finished the intro to ssb when the evo was about half way through. Hahahahahahahahahaha!!!! manuelly installed netflix today.... It works!!!!! Yes, sadly the 3d makes me dizzy ... Oh f### ing well dude not crying what so ever.
A for battery life, if the reviewers knew anything about task killers they would have said very things about the battery life. Made it all day today with just bluetooth and 4g on all day...... Be prepared to by a case, it was made to have one and the kickstand is only available on a case... Once again, not f### ing crying what so ever..... Can't wait until they release the ota to unlock the bootloader.
Nighty nighty
I've had enough of the evo 3d suck threads. So I decided we need a thread that only says nice things. When ever I buy something I look it up online in places like this and I'd imagine a lot of people have decided not to get the 3vo because of all the bashing threads.
I had a evo 4g before this and I think this phone is better in every way(except the new aspect ratio) it sips the battery, is super fast, my 3d works amazingly well, and has a dedicated camera button.
I ditched sense 1.0 on my 4g but 3.0 is surprising well done and slick. Some things like the low internal memory wizard and notification pulldown come to mind right away.
So what other good things does everybody else have to say?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1171875
I agree! Just got home from a Sunday family bbq and started to show of my 3vo ppl were just blown away.
Showed them:
Pictures in 3d
Video Game spiderman 3d
youtube video 3d (hand sticking out of youtube)
And to finish them off... Avatar in 3d.
I just murder the Blackberry owners and humble the iphone owners. Muhahaha! (In a evil laugh)
P.s
After this is what they told me:
Now thats a ****en Bad ass phone.
I love mine and I can't put it down!
@everyone who says more negative than positive about the 3d
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3D > iClone
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3D > iClone
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Taking mine back. Going to wait it out for the sgs2. It is a good phone, but I can't get enough of the super amoled screen.
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Well, i really want to love this phone...and i reeeaaally hope the problems, bugs and **** are gone if its released in the eu in august.
But well..crooked screens, camera hangs, no 3d menu...
But man i really love htc sense and all its goodies, the screen resolution, the camera quality, the Beautiful design and the led notification led, all wich the optimus3d does not have.
I think the htc is for me, but only if htc fixed all the **** we have now.
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Taking mine back. Going to wait it out for the sgs2. It is a good phone, but I can't get enough of the super amoled screen.
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Just take it back already. How many different reasons as to why, are you going to bull**** us with?
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Just take it back already. How many different reasons as to why, are you going to bull**** us with?
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As many times as there's a thread for it, bro.
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Who cares....
duplicate threads show up all the time and it will never ever stop...
I agree the 3D was a great upgrade from my Evo 4G.
jagox5 said:
I agree! Just got home from a Sunday family bbq and started to show of my 3vo ppl were just blown away.
Showed them:
Pictures in 3d
Video Game spiderman 3d
youtube video 3d (hand sticking out of youtube)
And to finish them off... Avatar in 3d.
I just murder the Blackberry owners and humble the iphone owners. Muhahaha! (In a evil laugh)
P.s
After this is what they told me:
Now thats a ****en Bad ass phone.
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Where did you get Avatar that works on the 3vo?
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Where did you get Avatar that works on the 3vo?
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I have it also it was in a thread that is closed now... You can get it by searching SBS (sidebyside). 3d copy of avatar...
Check piratebay and 4shared
Warning it is like 1.8gb download
3D > iClone
Thanks, found it
ChrisAC84 said:
Thanks, found it
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No problem bro also check out resident evil after life in 3d and despicable me...
If you like the 3d effect on avatar
3D > iClone
I have SERIOUSLY contemplated returning this phone (and was going to) and wait for sgs2
but after reading..they are having just as many if not more typical samsung, and non-typical issues it seems.
to top it all off the US SGS2 may end up with a tegra anyway which...im not sure on benchmarks, but i know its the samsung cpu pulling the big numbers..
even the battery life is being wrecked on the new ota I guess.
I have no real complaints on the evo 3D, I've had no problems with it (except 1 dead pixel that doesn't bother me)
battery's great...
having sense as an option is great..
and we'll have to wait and see if we get limited at all with the unlock coming up (sucks waiting) but honestly...the main reason I rooted my EVO was because it was sluggish...no problem on the 3D..so while I want to tweak..I can wait.
so yeah..i think ill end up keeping it.
no real serious problems... at least for me
edit: i still may return mine...... But only because I have 3 (and I'm going/trying to sell 2 of them) and keep my upgrade for something else...fall phones..iphone...idk, I love tinkering..with all OS's
i love the hell out of the phone, but still no signs of data working properly. i can barely get 100kb/s. i'm having a hard time taking it back and chicken out saturday. i think i'll be taking it back tonight... not fault of the phone, it's sprint's service. i won't be locked in for 2 years with sub par service. i'll still be keeping my sero plan for now on me evo, but if no improvements are made soon i'll TOL.
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i love the hell out of the phone, but still no signs of data working properly. i can barely get 100kb/s. i'm having a hard time taking it back and chicken out saturday. i think i'll be taking it back tonight... not fault of the phone, it's sprint's service. i won't be locked in for 2 years with sub par service. i'll still be keeping my sero plan for now on me evo, but if no improvements are made soon i'll TOL.
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I keep hearing this...
I can't help but ask..are you guys doing PRL updates, or hard resets, or updates? It's very possible that they address this issue.. I can't say for sure, But I had some data issue's before I took the latest update...it wasn't slow tho, it just wouldn't connect.
ever since tho..just fine, even in highly populated area's..or at least as populated as I can get to (Minneapolis, MN)
i've updated the prl and tried in multiple cities. one city i did get 1.2 Mb/s yesterday, so it's not the phone's fault, but sprint's.
congestion is no excuse. i don't pay for them to come up with excuses on why my service sucks. i pay them to find solutions for services/needs/wants.
in my home city we have 3 towers only one is accessible from my house, verizon phone gets 600kb/s - to 1.2 Mb/s, the sprint phones are only getting 20kb/s - 100kb/s. all connected to the same towers. the other towers give the same results. in the weekend i was in a bigger city, at 1:00AM on saturday - full 5 bars, 120kb/s. 3g on verizon 1.3Mb/s and 17Mb/s on 4g.
also, on the tests it didn't show i was roaming.
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i've updated the prl and tried in multiple cities. one city i did get 1.2 Mb/s yesterday, so it's not the phone's fault, but sprint's.
congestion is no excuse. i don't pay for them to come up with excuses on why my service sucks. i pay them to find solutions for services/needs/wants.
in my home city we have 3 towers only one is accessible from my house, verizon phone gets 600kb/s - to 1.2 Mb/s, the sprint phones are only getting 20kb/s - 100kb/s. all connected to the same towers. the other towers give the same results. in the weekend i was in a bigger city, at 1:00AM on saturday - full 5 bars, 120kb/s. 3g on verizon 1.3Mb/s and 17Mb/s on 4g.
also, on the tests it didn't show i was roaming.
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If I.was you I would exchange it..I had similar problems and went and got it switched out..still have some bad speeds at times..but its been a lot better..its weird ..somedays I can get good 3g in a certain area and then the next day it will be terrible in that same spot..
I love my E3D a lot.
Definitely has some crazy bad bugs, but I do believe they will iron out. Patience is a virtue.
1. Every once and a while I get the camera lag issue. Take a picture, preview shows, then actual picture shows (usually blurry) after you move phone.
2. Slow and nonexistent data at certain times.
Those are the only real dealbreakers for me so far.
Otherwise I love the damn thing!
1. 3D is actually really fun and taking pictures with it is a blast.
2. Phone feels fast and plays all the games I wasn't able to play on my 4G.
3. I prefer AOSP, but Sense 3.0 has proven the best of all the overlays.
4. I believe this phone has a bright future and will only get better with time.
Lets prey this is the whole truth... Lets Go Sprint...
http://www.newcellphonesblog.com/new-sprint-phones-coming-soon-09.html
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i like all of them except the iphone they suck its apple fualt for loosing unilimited data beep apple
get ready for **** network speeds and bandwidth caps that come along with the iphone
6foot7foot said:
get ready for **** network speeds and bandwidth caps that come along with the iphone
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Get ready for **** network speeds he says.
lchupacabras said:
Get ready for **** network speeds he says.
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No matter how much i fight it i always run back to HTC.
That EVO+ is a beaut
yeah, I'm gunna go ahead an pass on every single one of those.
You all realize this site aint all that credible at all. All they have done is pull what other sites have already stated long ago and put it in one place. Hell for the HTC Evo+ the comments even say its not likely coming to sprint.
wouldn't put too much into this bs site that hasn't broken any new news ever.
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You all realize this site aint all that credible at all. All they have done is pull what other sites have already stated long ago and put it in one place. Hell for the HTC Evo+ the comments even say its not likely coming to sprint.
wouldn't put too much into this bs site that hasn't broken any new news ever.
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Exactly...
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OP, it would be nice if you do some checking before posting links like this one.
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You all realize this site aint all that credible at all. All they have done is pull what other sites have already stated long ago and put it in one place. Hell for the HTC Evo+ the comments even say its not likely coming to sprint.
wouldn't put too much into this bs site that hasn't broken any new news ever.
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Don't forget about the Palm Pre3 that is listed on that site as well.. It was known over 6 months ago Sprint doesn't want ANYTHING to do with Palm after the crapstorm that was the Pre 2 years ago. Hell HP even said the Pre3 will NOT be coming to any carrier in the states because they dropped it.. so yeah, I'm not believing a word on that site until a more credible source comes up... but thanks for playing!
I know the iPhone is coming to sprint because of all these network changes, but if there was a miracle and it didn't, I would devote my whole life to god. I know that data capping is coming up which is terrible because I use about 2 GB of data per month and around 10 GB on busy months.
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I know the iPhone is coming to sprint because of all these network changes, but if there was a miracle and it didn't, I would devote my whole life to god. I know that data capping is coming up which is terrible because I use about 2 GB of data per month and around 10 GB on busy months.
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take it you are never connected to wifi, even when at home then. 10GB is an insane amount to be pulling. I understand if your using your phone for your home internet also but if your not then its pretty far out there.
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take it you are never connected to wifi, even when at home then. 10GB is an insane amount to be pulling. I understand if your using your phone for your home internet also but if your not then its pretty far out there.
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Well, I'm at work most of the time when there is no wifi and I am always reading rage comics on reddit, which means loading a lot of pictures. On the weekends, I usually go places a lot which means I will need to use my 3G. I also download movies and **** on it. (with 3G, because it will be done by the time I get home. I could probably cut back on this one)
even though i would really want that EVO+ i got to admit i am very satisfied with my E3D.
One of the best purchases i have ever made honestly, next to my 47 inch Vizio
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Lets prey this is the whole truth... Lets Go Sprint...
http://www.newcellphonesblog.com/new-sprint-phones-coming-soon-09.html
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take it you are never connected to wifi, even when at home then. 10GB is an insane amount to be pulling. I understand if your using your phone for your home internet also but if your not then its pretty far out there.
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It's not that far out there if you use apps that are data hogs, such as Pandora, YouTube, or any video chat apps. I use all of those apps on a daily basis and an regularly around 10 gigs a month. Here's the thing, I know I use a lot of data, which is why I'm on sprint with an unlimited plan. If sprint was tiered and had a 10 gig a month plan, that is the plan I'd choose, because I know I use a ton of data, but my only option is the unlimited plan. I should never be penalized for using excess data on my phone, because my plan is unlimited. If they go to tiered, I'd have no choice but to get the plan with the most data that they offer, which is what I'd do. My point is that I'm happy to pay for what I use, but I never want to get penalized for using a lot of data on an unlimited plan, because it's my only option. I'd pay
For more if I had to.
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It's not that far out there if you use apps that are data hogs, such as Pandora, YouTube, or any video chat apps. I use all of those apps on a daily basis and an regularly around 10 gigs a month. Here's the thing, I know I use a lot of data, which is why I'm on sprint with an unlimited plan. If sprint was tiered and had a 10 gig a month plan, that is the plan I'd choose, because I know I use a ton of data, but my only option is the unlimited plan. I should never be penalized for using excess data on my phone, because my plan is unlimited. If they go to tiered, I'd have no choice but to get the plan with the most data that they offer, which is what I'd do. My point is that I'm happy to pay for what I use, but I never want to get penalized for using a lot of data on an unlimited plan, because it's my only option. I'd pay
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wasn't trying to come off as saying the guy was hurting the network. I'm just used to having wifi almost everywhere I go and can't see pandora chewing that much data but stuff like netflix i can and dropbox stuff.
I'm always just surprised at people that run data that high as they have to have extra battery or extended to make phone last on 3g data that long, for that much.
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wasn't trying to come off as saying the guy was hurting the network. I'm just used to having wifi almost everywhere I go and can't see pandora chewing that much data but stuff like netflix i can and dropbox stuff.
I'm always just surprised at people that run data that high as they have to have extra battery or extended to make phone last on 3g data that long, for that much.
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I know what you mean. I think of myself using my phone a lot and I never really ever come close to 1 gig a month. I am usually at around 600-700 mb. Keep in mind, I only use my phone data for mobile data that my phone just needs. I don't tether, use phone for home internet, download any movies, etc... I can't believe some of the gb's I see people saying there using here lol.
The sad fact of things looks like Sprint will be getting the iphone eventually, which is not good if you look at the history of carriers when they start carrying apple products. It wouldn't be such a downer if all the carriers didn't conform to what apple thinks people need and ruin networks.... But I guess in the end that's the networks fault isn't it?
Apple appears to be trying to do "and successfully" with the networks that it is doing with its own products, one uniform design to rule them all and make sure no one is set apart from anyone else.
I'm thinking the Pink Floyd video, in one end as students out the other as clones
New law just posted I found out about on Reddit. Unlockable phones to become illegal on Saturday. Wtf is happening to our world?!
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/
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New law just posted I found out about on Reddit. Unlockable phones to become illegal on Saturday. Wtf is happening to our world?!
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/
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Ya, this is some BULLSH**!! Crazy what the government is so interested about... Pathetic...
It's nothing to do with our bootloader unlocks and gaining root access. That piece pertains to the carrier unlocking, which is fine because if company A subsidizes the phone for you, then they don't want you to take said phone to carrier B, and have carrier A no way of trying to gain back that subsidy in service. If you owned a food truck, and handed out a coupon for $5 off, but the individual found a way to use that $5 off on another truck, you'd be pissed. Small analogy.
That still sucks and lessens competition. I own the phone regardless of whether it was subsidized or not. The monetary penalty for breaking the contract compensates the carrier for their subsidy. We don't need this restriction.
Telecom companies in the US are a classic example of government failure. We have a bad competitive environment on the wireless space, and a horrible one in cable and Internet. There we basically have unregulated monopolies that do an excellent job reaping us off.
The US got a lot of things right, but the telecom sector is certainly the weak spot.
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Now i'm going to unlock my hox on SUNDAY just because of what I've read.
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doesnt really affect us since our phones are factory unlocked
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doesnt really affect us since our phones are factory unlocked
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Yeah I think the OP thought it meant unlocking the bootloader. That would just be dumb.
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What about this http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...-be-illegal-and-other-new-dmca-rule-insanity/
Jailbreaking tablets Illegal.
This is nothing to really worry about if you buy an unlocked phone your good this only affects phones that come with a contract and even those you can go online and get the code ffor around 10 bucks
This is just NOT good period. No matter if it's bootloaders or root or just unlocks because these greedy ass carriers get stuck with debt from a customer that does not pay his cancellation fees... Ya right! These companies are charging us out are asses for these devices in the first place and then get heavily compensated by the rest, on charging you more than your house payment every month! This is just one more thing that is being taken away from us...It's hard enough trying to get some of these companies trying to unlock your phones even if you paid your contract fees now it's gonna get next to impossible to get YOUR phone unlocked after your service is done. No it does not affect any of us right now but things like this start and then they think they can do whatever they want next year... The percentage of people that pay their bills are FAR greater than the people who try to scam so this is just another law to protect the rich corporate companies in the US so they can have more rights to take more of your money. Okay, maybe I went overboard.... It's still crap no matter how you look at it.
I know what Unlockable means lol. But yeah, no more
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America, land of the free... ? It's a bit OTT to make it illegal for you to alter a device you own...
First the guns, next religion, now phones.
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Yer not gonna be able to pee without having laws on how to soon. Watch. lol
Its sad... But that's the way the land of the "free" does it.
A few bums screw us all. Its always been that way.
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There will always be a way to unlock carrier restrictions.
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There will always be a way to unlock carrier restrictions.
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Without truly understanding this situation I believe that uppon is probably right.
After seeing what devs can do (and it doesn't take a whole lot to amaze me) I'd say that the playing field will always be brought back to level by talented people on a mission.
Apple is controlling politics and justice in the US,they want to slow down android
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do yourselves a favor and don't buy from carriers unless you can make sure that it is unlocked from day 1. of course, most of you probably already do that, don't you?! I will also be reminding my non-xda friends to not buy from the carriers also. Unfortunately, most of those people are too interested in the "cheap" $50 phone upgrade. Those people are the problem here.
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do yourselves a favor and don't buy from carriers unless you can make sure that it is unlocked from day 1. of course, most of you probably already do that, don't you?! I will also be reminding my non-xda friends to not buy from the carriers also. Unfortunately, most of those people are too interested in the "cheap" $50 phone upgrade. Those people are the problem here.
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So those of us who don't have the money to fork over for an off contract phone are a problem? Sorry I don't have 500-700 to throw at a phone at a given time :/
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I wonder how this will restrict people importing phones internationally and running on different region carriers. Would encourage even more grey importing!
Either way, this has always been a problem to some extent, but never permanent!
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Apple is controlling politics and justice in the US,they want to slow down android
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Completely off topic but I feel like discussing this. I just had a heated discussion with my niece who is 16 and always uses my spare SGS 2 over her iPhone when she is at home, because she likes it better. At school she told me she uses her iPhone because all of her friends have iPhone's because "it's what everybody has" were her words.
Apple only create 1 phone. I am SERIOUSLY amazed by the chickens that continue to follow the outstretched hand of apple, like a farmer with feed for his poultry. You can lead them around all day and they never seem to worry about variety, change or diversity. It's actually either a really dumb move or a really intelligent move to cater to everyone's needs with 1 phone. Luckily for them, Apple started a trend early on which snowballed due to mass marketing, the fantastic app store (only 1 phone for developers to tackle with very little drastic updates) and peer pressure based purchases for the likes of young and old!
I am a seasoned manager in this industry in a company called leetgeek and I can tell you right now that there is a very technically uneducated population, at least in my country as to what their devices can actually do. I just wish people had a clear understanding of the options available by researching and learning for themselves before making a purchase rather than following suit from their friends and family. Even when I ask them if they would consider another option, they already have their mind set. I honestly look at an iPhone only for it's simplicity, games and overall solid exterior. This is all some people want, and maybe they don't want to go any further than this and I can certainly accept that. My gripe is not with this type of person, it is with the people that don't know they could do a wider range of suitable tasks and potentially more with a different device but are too stubborn to hear it.
Is Android better than iOS? Well that is 100% a user based decision but for me personally, but obviously not for a lot of other people as they haven't bothered to learn. I can't for the life of me handle a little screen with home screen app drawers sitting their drinking a hot chocolate, telling my business friends oh look at this. I can synch my devices together so I will buy an iPad as well. Oh this is so amazing it's such a cool device!
/rant over