New law just posted I found out about on Reddit. Unlockable phones to become illegal on Saturday. Wtf is happening to our world?!
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/
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BFirebird101 said:
New law just posted I found out about on Reddit. Unlockable phones to become illegal on Saturday. Wtf is happening to our world?!
http://mashable.com/2013/01/23/unlocking-cellphones-illegal/
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Ya, this is some BULLSH**!! Crazy what the government is so interested about... Pathetic...
It's nothing to do with our bootloader unlocks and gaining root access. That piece pertains to the carrier unlocking, which is fine because if company A subsidizes the phone for you, then they don't want you to take said phone to carrier B, and have carrier A no way of trying to gain back that subsidy in service. If you owned a food truck, and handed out a coupon for $5 off, but the individual found a way to use that $5 off on another truck, you'd be pissed. Small analogy.
That still sucks and lessens competition. I own the phone regardless of whether it was subsidized or not. The monetary penalty for breaking the contract compensates the carrier for their subsidy. We don't need this restriction.
Telecom companies in the US are a classic example of government failure. We have a bad competitive environment on the wireless space, and a horrible one in cable and Internet. There we basically have unregulated monopolies that do an excellent job reaping us off.
The US got a lot of things right, but the telecom sector is certainly the weak spot.
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Now i'm going to unlock my hox on SUNDAY just because of what I've read.
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doesnt really affect us since our phones are factory unlocked
Bigandrewgold said:
doesnt really affect us since our phones are factory unlocked
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Yeah I think the OP thought it meant unlocking the bootloader. That would just be dumb.
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What about this http://www.digitaltrends.com/mobile...-be-illegal-and-other-new-dmca-rule-insanity/
Jailbreaking tablets Illegal.
This is nothing to really worry about if you buy an unlocked phone your good this only affects phones that come with a contract and even those you can go online and get the code ffor around 10 bucks
This is just NOT good period. No matter if it's bootloaders or root or just unlocks because these greedy ass carriers get stuck with debt from a customer that does not pay his cancellation fees... Ya right! These companies are charging us out are asses for these devices in the first place and then get heavily compensated by the rest, on charging you more than your house payment every month! This is just one more thing that is being taken away from us...It's hard enough trying to get some of these companies trying to unlock your phones even if you paid your contract fees now it's gonna get next to impossible to get YOUR phone unlocked after your service is done. No it does not affect any of us right now but things like this start and then they think they can do whatever they want next year... The percentage of people that pay their bills are FAR greater than the people who try to scam so this is just another law to protect the rich corporate companies in the US so they can have more rights to take more of your money. Okay, maybe I went overboard.... It's still crap no matter how you look at it.
I know what Unlockable means lol. But yeah, no more
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America, land of the free... ? It's a bit OTT to make it illegal for you to alter a device you own...
First the guns, next religion, now phones.
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Yer not gonna be able to pee without having laws on how to soon. Watch. lol
Its sad... But that's the way the land of the "free" does it.
A few bums screw us all. Its always been that way.
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There will always be a way to unlock carrier restrictions.
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There will always be a way to unlock carrier restrictions.
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Without truly understanding this situation I believe that uppon is probably right.
After seeing what devs can do (and it doesn't take a whole lot to amaze me) I'd say that the playing field will always be brought back to level by talented people on a mission.
Apple is controlling politics and justice in the US,they want to slow down android
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do yourselves a favor and don't buy from carriers unless you can make sure that it is unlocked from day 1. of course, most of you probably already do that, don't you?! I will also be reminding my non-xda friends to not buy from the carriers also. Unfortunately, most of those people are too interested in the "cheap" $50 phone upgrade. Those people are the problem here.
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do yourselves a favor and don't buy from carriers unless you can make sure that it is unlocked from day 1. of course, most of you probably already do that, don't you?! I will also be reminding my non-xda friends to not buy from the carriers also. Unfortunately, most of those people are too interested in the "cheap" $50 phone upgrade. Those people are the problem here.
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So those of us who don't have the money to fork over for an off contract phone are a problem? Sorry I don't have 500-700 to throw at a phone at a given time :/
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I wonder how this will restrict people importing phones internationally and running on different region carriers. Would encourage even more grey importing!
Either way, this has always been a problem to some extent, but never permanent!
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Apple is controlling politics and justice in the US,they want to slow down android
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Completely off topic but I feel like discussing this. I just had a heated discussion with my niece who is 16 and always uses my spare SGS 2 over her iPhone when she is at home, because she likes it better. At school she told me she uses her iPhone because all of her friends have iPhone's because "it's what everybody has" were her words.
Apple only create 1 phone. I am SERIOUSLY amazed by the chickens that continue to follow the outstretched hand of apple, like a farmer with feed for his poultry. You can lead them around all day and they never seem to worry about variety, change or diversity. It's actually either a really dumb move or a really intelligent move to cater to everyone's needs with 1 phone. Luckily for them, Apple started a trend early on which snowballed due to mass marketing, the fantastic app store (only 1 phone for developers to tackle with very little drastic updates) and peer pressure based purchases for the likes of young and old!
I am a seasoned manager in this industry in a company called leetgeek and I can tell you right now that there is a very technically uneducated population, at least in my country as to what their devices can actually do. I just wish people had a clear understanding of the options available by researching and learning for themselves before making a purchase rather than following suit from their friends and family. Even when I ask them if they would consider another option, they already have their mind set. I honestly look at an iPhone only for it's simplicity, games and overall solid exterior. This is all some people want, and maybe they don't want to go any further than this and I can certainly accept that. My gripe is not with this type of person, it is with the people that don't know they could do a wider range of suitable tasks and potentially more with a different device but are too stubborn to hear it.
Is Android better than iOS? Well that is 100% a user based decision but for me personally, but obviously not for a lot of other people as they haven't bothered to learn. I can't for the life of me handle a little screen with home screen app drawers sitting their drinking a hot chocolate, telling my business friends oh look at this. I can synch my devices together so I will buy an iPad as well. Oh this is so amazing it's such a cool device!
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I posted this in the Thunderbolt forum(as I still have a TB until Monday), but thought you guys would get a laugh out of it to.
This was the line for the RAZR launch this morning at my local Verizon. This pic was taken 10 minutes before they opened(They decided on 11:11AM for the launch).
Btw, that lady wasn't there for the RAZR... she just wanted a new battery for her phone and was upset that Verizon wasn't open yet.
A RAZR launch is always the best day to go to the VZW store if you need to , because it is never crowded.
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hahahahaha...we had one person come in today and ask for a razr. that's it.
Jay... You still sticking with the rezound over the nexus? I gotta make a decision soon.
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hahahahaha...we had one person come in today and ask for a razr. that's it.
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Lol yeah I went down to play with the RAZR thinking that I had to stand in line to do so, but the freaking store was pretty much empty. I asked one of the sales reps about how the RAZR was selling and he said that they only sold two. The funny part is that they had balloons, posters, banners and all for the RAZR, all in vain.
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Jay... You still sticking with the rezound over the nexus? I gotta make a decision soon.
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yup! 100% for the rezound, not even thinking twice. i don't want stock android; i want sense. i love how the rezound is shaping up, especially the video camera and the camera, they look great! i'm getting it tuesday when our store gets them in stock
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Lol yeah I went down to play with the RAZR thinking that I had to stand in line to do so, but the freaking store was pretty much empty. I asked one of the sales reps about how the RAZR was selling and he said that they only sold two. The funny part is that they had balloons, posters, banners and all for the RAZR, all in vain.
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i know, right? sad part is, in our verizon website, they said that employees couldn't activate the razr on launch day, much like the iphone 4s, because of the overwhelming demand. LOL. what demand? hahaha
2 Issues, there are so many Android phones, those who WANT these new phones can't get them because they just got the last 9 phones that came out in the last couple months, lol. iPhone fanboys only get 1 phone every 12+ months, easier to build up demand when there isn't something else similar coming out. Not to mention, people KNOW the Nexus and Rezound come out in the next few days.
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hahahahaha...we had one person come in today and ask for a razr. that's it.
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Hell I went into a store with my Rezound to buy a case because I heard they were there. When I pulled out my Rezound to put the case on all the employees were like how did you get it early. Told them I preordered it on Wednesday got it Thursday. Even the few customers put down the Razr's to see my Rezound Then most of them were asking about the beats by dre phone. Pretty funny!!!!!Razr Launch fail!!!!
Verizon can't run a marketing campaign to save their lives. It's embarrassing.
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Hell I went into a store with my Rezound to buy a case because I heard they were there. When I pulled out my Rezound to put the case on all the employees were like how did you get it early. Told them I preordered it on Wednesday got it Thursday. Even the few customers put down the Razr's to see my Rezound Then most of them were asking about the beats by dre phone. Pretty funny!!!!!Razr Launch fail!!!!
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Beautiful!
The thing I hate about the razr most is the bezel is so big, also I don't like phones that have a hump, just seems out of place, I'd rather the whole thing be a bit thicker overall.
I did see commercials on TV for it, guess they didn't help.
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The thing I hate about the razr most is the bezel is so big, also I don't like phones that have a hump, just seems out of place, I'd rather the whole thing be a bit thicker overall.
I did see commercials on TV for it, guess they didn't help.
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i was frolicking about in the mall today and saw one on display in Best Buy Mobile(there were people in the store, but no one seemed to be paying any attention to it). i decided to pick it up and it just felt all fragile and seemed like if you didn't hold it just right it might slip out of your hands. i didn't really play with it much but did try to see if i could experience the lag and kept constantly switching back & forth through windows and it did slow down. a salesperson was just watching me and probably thought i'm "disturbed"(which isn't far from the truth).
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Verizon can't run a marketing campaign to save their lives. It's embarrassing.
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Seriously?? Have you forgotten that because of Verizons "terrible" marketing 99% of people refer to all Android phones as "Droids." Coming from someone who has "sent from my DROID Bionic" as his sig just makes you saying that, that much funnier.
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voxigenboy said:
i was frolicking about in the mall today
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^lol
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Zytryx said:
The thing I hate about the razr most is the bezel is so big, also I don't like phones that have a hump, just seems out of place, I'd rather the whole thing be a bit thicker overall.
I did see commercials on TV for it, guess they didn't help.
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In photos, the hump looks pretty big. In reality, it doesn't feel nearly as intrusive. You might still hate it, of course. I'm just clarifying that as far as how the phone feels in hand, the hump is the most minor concern for me.
I played with one at one of my Verizon stores... I just can't get over Moto's failed Blur. The locked BL nonsense, I mean.... No reason to ever go back to another Moto, their track record ruined it for me. (I may change my opinion if Google does successfully acquire Moto).
On a side note, if they would quit having these damn release parties and just had teaser commercials, and NOT let people know that a better phone is coming out 3 days later, and subsequently 7 days again after than. AND, if they didn't tie people to asinine contracts, AND, if there were not choices, AND.... You get the point. You can't hype something that is overpriced and isn't changing anything in the world. How many people do you think will show up at a car dealer to see a new hybrid?
Lol alot of people can barely afford food, why spend hundreds on a phone that will just be obsolete in a matter of months?
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broons said:
Lol alot of people can barely afford food, why spend hundreds on a phone that will just be obsolete in a matter of months?
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And a lot of those very same people have one of these phones (smart phone of some sort) in there hands. Just sayin'.... should I give my phone money to them for food instead?
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And a lot of those very same people have one of these phones (smart phone of some sort) in there hands. Just sayin'.... should I give my phone money to them for food instead?
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not true ^
I'm around a lot of people who are legally considered poor, most have POS dumbphones with hardly known cell providers, the ones that have smartphones still are having problem affording rent and whatnot but they're not as bad off, and they get their smartphone for free or for something like $50, and again with POS providers that are hella cheap.
It's hard to live in this society without internet or cell phones, and there's ways of getting those things without having to pay a lot.
If someone can afford to blow $300 on a phone but they say that they can't afford food, then they can, they're just dumbasses or lying to your face.
anyway way off topic, just wanted to rant.
broons said:
Lol alot of people can barely afford food, why spend hundreds on a phone that will just be obsolete in a matter of months?
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dude.. that's what food stamps and homeless shelters are for. why spend your own money on food. LOL
So by now you all have been informed of the stall in imports of the EVO LTE and One X. Lets all go to our local Apple stores and protest this crap. I know customs is at fault, but its due to Apples bullsh*t lawsuits.
Something else that we can do is flood the USPTO with emails, maybe that would speed up the process.
http://www.uspto.gov/about/contacts/emailus.jsp
Wow really what do protest on your local apple store will do?
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EVO-lution said:
So by now you all have been informed of the stall in imports of the EVO LTE and One X. Lets all go to our local Apple stores and protest this crap. I know customs is at fault, but its due to Apples bullsh*t lawsuits.
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Hmm well id def get thrown in jail im black in greenwich ct lol but maybe a facebook massive email and bring it too the powers that control this protesting does not mean going to jail like many did in op wall st we all sit here and complain when we can take logical action ...
Thing is some people have alot of money held up in these devices thlat to me is more impotant than delay
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Htc and the like need to let their junk drop and play the game as apple is. Chits gone on to long. Apple needs to be put into place
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mbaseball3 said:
Htc and the like need to let their junk drop and play the game as apple is. Chits gone on to long. Apple needs to be put into place
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I think every company with mobile patents should band together and share patents, just briefly, to sue Apple. End this once and for all. Samsung, HTC, Microsoft, Motorola, RIM, Palm, LG, and anyone else. Burn them to the ground.
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notasimpleway said:
I think every company with mobile patents should band together and share patents, just briefly, to sue Apple. End this once and for all. Samsung, HTC, Microsoft, Motorola, RIM, Palm, LG, and anyone else. Burn them to the ground.
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Amen
I think google should pull all of its apps from the app store and not let apple use any of its services
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Some people take things way too seriously..
twigs187 said:
Some people take things way too seriously..
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thats for sure. Much to learn this one has.
alchemist316 said:
Hmm well id def get thrown in jail im black in greenwich ct lol
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Lol! I feel you.
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lol o_o
can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
Apple is getting desperate. Their little fisher price phone is old and turning into a joke next to Android.
Most of Apples stock price is due to cell phone sales, so they should be scared.
I predict Apple will be bankrupt again in 5 years.
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Apple is getting desperate. Their little fisher price phone is old and turning into a joke next to Android.
Most of Apples stock price is due to cell phone sales, so they should be scared.
I predict Apple will be bankrupt again in 5 years.
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Eh, I disagree.
Compared to Google, Apple has their stuff together.
Google's aggravating flaw: They 15 versions of Android OS between how many devices. Android OS distribution has to be fixed.
I'm not saying that Apple products are inherently better- I enjoy having an open, customizable phone that is more than a screen of icons, and having superuser permissions.
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can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
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They didn't. They brought it up last year. The judge said that HTC had until mid or late april (I forgot the exact date) of this year to fix the issue. ITC just hasn't gotten around to checking HTC's claim that they fixed it yet. This shipment is the first import since that date passed.
The more you know...
Warrior 3000 said:
can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
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Underhanded, anti-competitive business tactics. This is the way Apple has always operated. Why is anyone surprised by this?
This is what they know is bound to happen (mind you, not with everyone):
1) Consumer sees delay in release of pre-ordered smartphone.
2) Consumer feels slighted and blames HTC/Sprint/Seller
3) Consumer says "Screw them/it... I'm getting an iPhone."
4) Apple profits...
Sad but true. This is business as usual in the Patent Age.
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I predict Apple will be bankrupt again in 5 years.
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Doubtful... They still have other products outside of the mobile sector and a LARGE cache of patents to keep this going until something is done to prevent it.
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can someone please try to explain why apple decides to bring up these patents within a FEW days before this phone is out.
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Actually, the ITC review has been going on for more than a month.
“It’s really hard to tell how much longer the phones will be held up at the customs, because the review has already taken a month,” said Bonnie Chang, an analyst at Yuanta Securities.
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It's from a NY Times story titled "Patent Dispute Holds Up Sales of 2 HTC Phones in U.S." I can't post a link.
It is just fun to joke around and pretend we can make a difference by complaining about Apple. Though I really will never own another Apple made anything(I hope they don't come out with the first flying car)
Anyone on here apart of Anonymous? Get your people together and DDoS the **** out of Apple's sites lol
The flying car already exists, and no Apple didn't build it , but they are probably filling out a patent app for it now
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Eh, I disagree.
Compared to Google, Apple has their stuff together.
Google's aggravating flaw: They 15 versions of Android OS between how many devices. Android OS distribution has to be fixed.
I'm not saying that Apple products are inherently better- I enjoy having an open, customizable phone that is more than a screen of icons, and having superuser permissions.
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Why does it have to be fixed? If iOS doesn't exist is there a problem with fragmentation? Should I automatically get upgraded to Windows 8 because I bought a computer with Windows 7?
Truly I don't see it as a huge issue. The open nature of Android is what makes it great. The only way to mimic Apple's distribution model is by BECOMING Apple. Of course if you have 4 phones and 3 tablets with the software completely locked down it is easy. You said it your self there are how many phones running android on all sorts of different hardware and UI changes? It would be impossible to have them all running the same version of Android in the same time frame as Apple but who cares? If that truly matters to you buy an Iphone. I have had a blast with Gingerbread on my 3D and playing around with different ICS roms(please do that with an Iphone)
You call it a problem I call it options. Some are low grade running older versions you and I wouldn't touch, but it allows those of a different income to afford a Smart phone. Some people like a physical keyboard, some like big screens, some like smaller screens. Some people like Sense or TW and others plain old Vanilla AOSP. You are telling me all those options are worse than Google locking down Android and releasing 1 to 2 phones/year all made by Motorola(considering they own it) just so you can get the latest version quickly , because that is the only way? WHY?
Not sure if anyone is aware but Sprint no longer carries the Evo 3D. You can go to their site and look and the Evo 3D is no longer in their line-up. Some retailers still have some in stock, as of now RadioShack is offering the Evo 3D for $29.99 for new upgrade or add-a-line.
lmao! umm yeah. that's been the story for over 2-3 months now. lol. But oh well, you just now figured it out. Discontinued a long time ago. Sadly, the Evo 3D really is a great phone. But they can't just have 60 phones in their lineup. wish they could keep this one.
they need to grow a sack.
with ICS, the device should be a front runner, and HTC devs should have overclocked the GPU a tick to keep it up with other devices coming out. They could have kept selling the damn things, for the same price, it's all about how you market a product... and with hardware, as always, the performance is only as limited as the restricting software loaded to it.
truly disappointing. with ICS available, they could still be marketing these devices at 100 bucks a pop, even more, and people would still be buying them up.
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they need to grow a sack.
with ICS, the device should be a front runner, and HTC devs should have overclocked the GPU a tick to keep it up with other devices coming out. They could have kept selling the damn things, for the same price, it's all about how you market a product... and with hardware, as always, the performance is only as limited as the restricting software loaded to it.
truly disappointing. with ICS available, they could still be marketing these devices at 100 bucks a pop, even more, and people would still be buying them up.
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None of this matters if the phone doesnt sell. It clearly didn't meet their expectations on the sales end which is why they elected NOT to put 3D on the next Evo. Doesn't matter what the hardware is, if people aren't buying it they aren't going to keep paying HTC to make them. Pretty simple business practice there.
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None of this matters if the phone doesnt sell. It clearly didn't meet their expectations on the sales end which is why they elected NOT to put 3D on the next Evo. Doesn't matter what the hardware is, if people aren't buying it they aren't going to keep paying HTC to make them. Pretty simple business practice there.
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The GS2 killed that phone. I had the 3d and figured it be just like my OG evo and i would keep it for a year. I got really bored with the phone. It was like they sold us a cool 3d phone and said have fun go find tour own 3d stuff lol. The phone didnt sell bc it wasnt that big of a difference from the original evo except the 3d and well there wasnt alot of 3d stuff available so what was the point in getting it. The GS2 how ever was thinner faster sexier and had a way better camera. The day the GS2 hit the shelves the 3d was done. I jumped ship asap
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they need to grow a sack.
with ICS, the device should be a front runner, and HTC devs should have overclocked the GPU a tick to keep it up with other devices coming out. They could have kept selling the damn things, for the same price, it's all about how you market a product... and with hardware, as always, the performance is only as limited as the restricting software loaded to it.
truly disappointing. with ICS available, they could still be marketing these devices at 100 bucks a pop, even more, and people would still be buying them up.
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yea and they should still have nextel phones, just gotta market that push to talk feature better! *chirp chirp*
on a more serious note... glad you aren't the one making the decissions for sprint though
Marketing ICS
The general public seems to be a little uninformed about android versions. I work at best buy mobile and often used android version as a selling point (Especially when the Galaxy Nexus came out with pure ICS). However I don't emphasize software version as much now since most consumers have no earthly idea what it means. even after explaining, most customers respond with a lack of enthusiasm: "oh... that's neat..."
For myself and probably many power users, It would have made sense to release ICS earlier on the E3D so it could have a better edge on the competition, (iphone, Gs2), but the general public... Android versions don't seem to motive them as much. the early move to ICS would have translated to insignificant increases in sales to justify the release.
Atleast on Iphone instead of saying "The new 5.0/5.1" you can just say, "it's loaded with icloud." Consumers respond a lot better to that. even though I like selling androids better. especially after apple screwed up my evo LTE pre-order (was supposed to get it day after my birthday)
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lmao! umm yeah. that's been the story for over 2-3 months now. lol. But oh well, you just now figured it out. Discontinued a long time ago. Sadly, the Evo 3D really is a great phone. But they can't just have 60 phones in their lineup. wish they could keep this one.
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You know I don't have my head up Sprint's butt or my face constantly glued to XDA. So when someone makes a post that may be a little behind or in the wrong forum, coming out and try to make fun and humiliate them only pushes people away from the site. Next time show some courtesy and some decency and correct them in a respectful manner. Some people such as myself didn't know this until I went to add-a-line and saw it was no longer offered, others may see this post and find the same info and see a good sale for a great phone.
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Another point is that HTC screwed up on this phone. About 70 percent of the people who've had this phone say its glitchy. I inherited this phone from my dad and when he had it, it would reboot or shut off by itself. Had it not been for it glitching out all the time my dad would'be kept it. And if a lot of people weren't hearing such things it wouldve been more popular.
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Seriously...?
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702304782404577491510025271678.html
Most OEM's offer licensing deals for patent infringement, whereas apple wants to shut them out of the market completely. Apple knows they are going to lose this war just as they lost the desktop war during the 90's, they just want to delay the inevitable.
Are you kidding me?
U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh wrote that Apple had made a strong case that Samsung had violated its design patent, which describes the front, back and sides of a device that looks similar ...
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So.... now nothing can be made with a rectangle shape with curved sides? Give me a freakin break.
Having a bunch of fan boys/gals buy every piece of crap they make like drones isn't enough? Now they have to try and take away the competition because the "sides are curved"
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At least this time they have to pony up 2.6 million dollars to get it taken seriously. Hopefully they loose the case and the money.
Ohh I hate apple even though I don't buy Samsung. The way Apple runs their business just irks me... Never owned Apple never will
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At least this time they have to pony up 2.6 million dollars to get it taken seriously. Hopefully they loose the case and the money.
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2.6 million dollars to them is a mere blip of their overall worth.
I hate Apple with a passion. nothing to do with their product, everything to do with their corporate ego maniacs
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cobraboy85 said:
2.6 million dollars to them is a mere blip of their overall worth.
I hate Apple with a passion. nothing to do with their product, everything to do with their corporate ego maniacs
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Agreed!
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are you f***ing kidding me apple?!?
that is so dumb... how are so many people oblivious to the things apple are doing, and just buying every product they make, year after year?!?
Thats just so iLame
Whats even worse than Apple's "ethics" is the "ethics" of the judge in this case. Either she is a complete moron or Apple has slipped her some money under the table....
I guess the HUGE ****ing Apple logo on the back of their devices isn't enough to distinguish the two devices. They're literally digging themselves a grave...
Can't they claim patent for the 3.5" didee screen; they can have that one.
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Whats even worse than Apple's "ethics" is the "ethics" of the judge in this case. Either she is a complete moron or Apple has slipped her some money under the table....
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I do not like apple any more than the rest of us but . . . When somebody wins you have to give them their due.
Really, I expect that the judge did the best that could be done given the evidence. Samsung maybe pushed the limit a little to closely and didn't pull it off. Samsung has the edge anyway - except maybe not the size niche it would like. I think they'll get a lot closer after yesterday . . .
About time. Go get them Apple.:thumbup:
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Are you kidding me?
So.... now nothing can be made with a rectangle shape with curved sides? Give me a freakin break.
Having a bunch of fan boys/gals buy every piece of crap they make like drones isn't enough? Now they have to try and take away the competition because the "sides are curved"
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That patent pretty much describes LCD TV's, GPS devices, computer monitors.....ect. So stupid. This is why I hate on Apple. Not because I dislike their devices, because of their business practices.
If you think about the size of the companies involved there has to be enough creative talent to come up with an idea that is so different than what apple has it can't possibly be called a copyright infringement. The sooner these companies wise up and do that the better off we all will be.
The Patent Office needs to take some blame here too. Don't get me wrong, I do not approve of Apple's business practices, however, they're just doing whatever they can get away with. They shouldn't be able to get away with it, and that is why the blame should clearly fall on the Patent Office. The PO obviously has a lack of understanding pertaining to the technological field, so how are they the ones determining which patents to grant? They need to step up to the plate and throw away all of the frivolous patents that they ignorantly granted Apple. Again, that's the real problem here, if Apple doesn't have these absurd patents, they don't have all this power that they shouldn't have.
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why does everyone hate samsung so much?
Everyone says there products are cheap, but they aren't that bad.
I was thinking of getting
new samsung windows phone 8(sprint for unlimited data) when it comes out
prob a windows surface tablet by samsung
and a series 7(8?) gamer laptop when windows 8 comes out?
anyone want to try to talk me out of it for asus, htc, msi or sager -i don't buy alienware
or android or linux of this?
cobraboy85 said:
2.6 million dollars to them is a mere blip of their overall worth.
I hate Apple with a passion. nothing to do with their product, everything to do with their corporate ego maniacs
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I actually really like Apple's products. I don't like the mice though, as they are awfully limiting in the UI. I don't like the complete closed house approach they use, but they are big enough to make it work well. I very much dislike their tactics though.
I can tell you that the vast majority of people out there just don't care about who is *****ing (sueing) at who etc. They just think Apple is the bee's knee's and that's all there is to it.
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2.6 million dollars to them is a mere blip of their overall worth.
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I just checked wiki for a comparision between the company I work for and Apple. My company's revenue and overall worth is much greater then Apple's. With that in mind....we had a prototype parts inventory audit last year and the initial numbers came back saying we were missing 1.2 million dollars (US) worth of parts. That became a huge deal. The parts crib went on a 2 week lockdown. R&D stopped. Big wigs from Germany came. 2.6 million dollars is a huge deal to them, trust me.
How upset would you be?
So my DNA screen took dump not sure what caused it for sure but at one point my phone did get extremely hot when charging it. Soon after the screen blacked out and never came back. OK no biggie called VZW CC/Support. After a few mins, Rep suggested warranty replacement with over night shipping. Got the phone package the next day. Open it up. It was the Droid incredible. ??? Ok called VZW back. They said that's what we replace if you had the Thunderbolt. Well of course I corrected them. I told them that was what I had before the DNA, they said sorry. Just send the phone back and we will send you the DNA but sadly I would have to wait till Monday. NO PHONE FOR THE WEEKEND. I asked if I could use the DInc till I get my DNA. NOW mind you I was being very nice considering it was there mistake.
This Rep suggested I use the Dinc and try it out and if I liked it you can use it instead of them sending me a new DNA. I was a lost for words. Then 8 Million questions started to pour in to my brain. I took this one.... I said ok give me my 600 hundred dollars back that I paid for the DNA. She asked why would you pay $600 for your phone. I told her that was the price I had to pay to keep my Unlimited Data. Then the Rep switched on her Sales pitch and started to say.... well can I look at your account data usage maybe we can see if I can get you a better data package.: My anger level went from 2 to 2 million.
I stopped her. I told her with my very very nice voice. You need to get your supervisor or you are about to hear the worst foul language ever in your life time....
OK long story short ( too late) I talked to a the Rep Super. I will be getting my DNA Monday and I will be using the Dinc till I get my DNA replacement.
Thanks for letting me vent.
I wouldve tried to back hand her through the phone
The people working for verizon are idiots. I still have my unlimited data after paying the 200 to upgrade to the DNA hahaha. Im not complaining.
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You Lucky sob
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Very lucky sob I lost mines for it
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I know how you feel, this is what verizon had sent me to replace one of my devices
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Now how the **** is that "like new"?
Needless to say i have another one coming to me next day shipping to be here monday.
Don't worry when I work for Verizon I'll value my customers.I went BS when my droid x messed up. Terrible inspection,I seen better like news on eBay.
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a box of kittens said:
I wouldve tried to back hand her through the phone
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hahahaha. Yea, Verizon really just has a monopoly in United States...Verizon is the only carrier from which i can get 4g or good 3g in my area. Thus, i have no choice but to use Verizon for whatever price they ask and such...plus their customer support isn't too great i.e. your experience ...really sucks. At least you're getting your DNA replaced.
So why is vzw customer service always rated #1? Everyone has a bad experience now and again, but overall vzw is THE best in the biz. And if Verizon is all that works in your area how would you know how Verizon is comparatively if you javent tried the others.
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Always expect the worst anytime you deal with Verizon about any kind of issue. That way you will never be disappointed. Also plan to waste a lot of time.
In all fairness this was my first negative customer care Interactive. There is always that 1 bad apple.
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vargo911 said:
In all fairness this was my first negative customer care Interactive. There is always that 1 bad apple.
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Nearly every time I've had to call them I've been fed bs, attitudes, and rudeness. I've had like 2 people that were descent to deal with, one guy actually helped me. The other guy didn't do anything (so he was still useless) but at least he was pleasant. I just stopped dealing with it :-\
At least some people don't have bad luck with CSRs
Wow, no charging port cover.
That's not cool.
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I work at an indirect vzw store so I have to call customer care multiple times a day... It's really hit or miss with the reps... Some of them will bend over backwards to help and others will just blow you off... If you get a bad one just call back or ask to speak to a supervisor... Customer care can pretty much do whatever you want them too... You just have to get the rep that's not lazy.
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Ya don't say?
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platinumrims said:
Nearly every time I've had to call them I've been fed bs, attitudes, and rudeness. I've had like 2 people that were descent to deal with, one guy actually helped me. The other guy didn't do anything (so he was still useless) but at least he was pleasant. I just stopped dealing with it :-\
At least some people don't have bad luck with CSRs
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When you get people like that just call back.
I was having signal issues with my galaxy s3 and I had been through a few replacement devices. I finally asked to be moved to a different phone.
Tech guy I was taking too said it was impossible, that they would need to come to my area and do tests, I'd have to submit a service call.. Wait a few weeks, and then, only if they found a problem, they might consider it. But it would be a razor or something.
I said I wasn't happy with that, and I had been swapped devices in the post. He said no, this was their policy. (I wanted the dna).
I said thank you and hung up.
I called back 3 min later. Talked to another tech. Told her the same thing. Bad signal, 3rd replacement and she, on her own, not more than. 1 min into the call said "want me to send you a dna?"
She sent it overnight, entire call took less than 5 min, other guy had me on the line for 20.
Just goes to show you.. They Can do stuff for you, you just need to weed out the a-holes who lie and say "nope.. That's impossible sorry"
I've also noticed that the time you have been a customer seems to matter. Newer customers seem to get less in the way of good help. They have special policies for "tenured" customers which might explain some of the differences between personal experiences. I have been a customer for 10 years
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That's probably it, I've had Verizon before but it was quite a while ago. Only been with them now for about a year and a half. Seems silly to me that they do that but I guess people get phones then sell them or whatever pretty often. I'd imagine they don't like that. As long as their service stays the best I'll keep them, even if their CS is a joke... I just hope I never have to call them again lol.
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That's probably it, I've had Verizon before but it was quite a while ago. Only been with them now for about a year and a half. Seems silly to me that they do that but I guess people get phones then sell them or whatever pretty often. I'd imagine they don't like that. As long as their service stays the best I'll keep them, even if their CS is a joke... I just hope I never have to call them again lol.
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You guys gotta think about all the BS calls the reps get on a daily basis. For every person with a legitimate issue with their phone, there are probably 4 just calling in trying to get an early upgrade, or get their phone swapped because they did something to it. If they just allowed everyone to swap phones whenever they wanted then the whole subsidized system just goes out the window.