First off, I love my E3D! Is it just me or is anyone else concerned that Sprint is not marketing this phone very good at all. I've seen the lame ping pong commercial and a NASCAR commercial for a contest. Is this truly the flagship phone for Sprint? I am still seeing EVO 4G commercials! Why are they not pumping this thing up? C'mon Sprint...convince me I have the best device on the Now Network! I know I do, but I want to hear it from you!!
Its because they are prepping for the Motorola and Samsung phones coming out. I think they are having commitment issues with the EVO. I love it tho
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There is the possibility that the apple vs htc case is involved somehow. I'm not sure though.
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I know..they should be pumping out commercials with specs..How bout mentioning the qhd display or the blazing fast 1.2ghz dual cores..first and best for sprint..they have a ****ty advertising dept thats for sure!!
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No on all of the above. There is no flagship phone coming out on any network including the Iphone 5 (what happened to the A5) anytime soon. The battle is not on selling the hardware, It's marketing price plans specifically data. Verizon just capped their plans, ATT did it as well, they are buying T-mobile or trying too. Sprint's stock won't get a boost from the EVO 3d, nor Motorola, Nor Samsung, maybe a little from Apple. But that is it. Not that Sprint is saying the phone sucks, but dual cores will be everywhere soon. (Buy Qualcomm) This is not a flagship like the EVO 4G or the Iphone was for Apple. Without a quad core 4 ghz 128 gb sd card qhd 2156x1080 auto stereoscopic (which the 4g was in its debut as far as innovation) no carrier has anything groundbreaking. They are selling plans, which is their competitive edge. And unless you own stock, and I do, what do you care about the commercials?
3d is said to be releasing on T-mo later this year. So its not really exclusive to Sprint therefore lack of advertising
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No on all of the above. There is no flagship phone coming out on any network including the Iphone 5 (what happened to the A5) anytime soon. The battle is not on selling the hardware, It's marketing price plans specifically data. Verizon just capped their plans, ATT did it as well, they are buying T-mobile or trying too. Sprint's stock won't get a boost from the EVO 3d, nor Motorola, Nor Samsung, maybe a little from Apple. But that is it. Not that Sprint is saying the phone sucks, but dual cores will be everywhere soon. (Buy Qualcomm) This is not a flagship like the EVO 4G or the Iphone was for Apple. Without a quad core 4 ghz 128 gb sd card qhd 2156x1080 auto stereoscopic (which the 4g was in its debut as far as innovation) no carrier has anything groundbreaking. They are selling plans, which is their competitive edge. And unless you own stock, and I do, what do you care about the commercials?
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I suppose you are right, it's more about plans now. As far as stock..I don't own shares but I believe my years of service with Sprint does give me a little room here to voice my concerns. And when I saw more commercials today for the OG 4G it just kinda bothered me, but you're right and I didn't think about that...it's about the plan more than the phone.
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There is the possibility that the apple vs htc case is involved somehow. I'm not sure though.
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Oh wow this has nothing to do with it the damn phone been our for a good 3 weeks now and that no import sue just happened last week,
Now back to topic.well that's how sprint is, the do no how to advertise sometines, they do pay a lot of money tho , the EVO 3 D commercial were everywhere for the grand opening of harry potter movie ok Thursday night, unlike Verizon sprint doesn't know how to advertise some products, the new commercial about data caps is the best so far, and don't worry the phone is selling good so there will be good future for it
If you don't have an Evo3d well you don't have an Evo3d
Re read my post and apologize to Apollo and others for coming across as an ahole. Marketing is tricky... A dual core 1.2 doesn't mean anything to most. Show them settings/applications/manage/all and scroll it... They will get it then. Qhd? A commercial would be displaying video of a video and losing the 3d and resolution, compressed or stretched to fit = "simulation" in fine print in an add.
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Just saw an ad for the Evo 3D during American Dad on Fox.
I haven't seen much ads either.
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Re read my post and apologize to Apollo and others for coming across as an ahole. Marketing is tricky... A dual core 1.2 doesn't mean anything to most. Show them settings/applications/manage/all and scroll it... They will get it then. Qhd? A commercial would be displaying video of a video and losing the 3d and resolution, compressed or stretched to fit = "simulation" in fine print in an add.
Way more than 10 chars. Sorry
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Thanks Randy, no worries! You are absolutely correct though...very tricky, especially for this phone! They'll figure something out as I believe this is the Flagship phone...they threw a big party for its release like they did for the EVO 4G. From a shareholders perspective how do you think the whole t-mobile att deal will affect Sprint?
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As far as that is concerned, that is a slippery slope. Short-term Sprint could benefit from defectors refusing to sign with ATT. 99% done deal that Sprint will be getting Iphone 5. That is another enticement for T-Mobile customers to be swayed to Sprint. Long term who knows... Sprint could end up being bought by someone. Verizon is the popular name because of the shared CDMA platform. I personally don't think that matters. There were rumors a year ago that Google would might dive in, they certainly have the cash but that isn't their arena. They use other companies hardware and airwaves to grow product. Google voice, any and all isp's... etc. All I know is Dan Hesse (sprint CEO) Is launching a war to prevent it. And he's driven the stock price up 25% this past ytd. Stock hit $6 earlier this summer. He's doing something right.
BTW Sprint is launching a $3 million EVO3D Sprint Nascar giveaway ad campaign.
Carl Edwards was on SportsCenter talking about it.
Also the adds will continue to roll out, My guess is Sprint wanted the phone to circulate for a month or so to work out the bugs... get out the firmware updates before going with the "full court press". They don't need a ****load of new customers with EVO3D problems that don't know how to figure out fixes while the phone is in its infancy. Have a great day
A lot depends on the advertising medium as to which phone they'll promote. The 3D, despite its good hardware, is a nitch phone. Not many business users will be tempted. Cutting edge users will be.
On the other hand, I bet you'll see lot of promotion in business media for the Photon. With an equal emphasis on their "truly unlimited".
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I think the tone for the Thunderbolt launch was set with HTC's ridiculously pretentious slogan "this isn't your dream phone, it's the one after that." The expectations were set high. And them came the official announcement, with no release date and lackluster specs. But then again, the dual-core phones that were announced probably wouldn't be out for awhile, so excitement for the TB remained high.
Next, the Verizon iPhone is announced and then released shortly after. Pricing information puts the Thunderbolt at $250, making it one of the most expensive phones out there. This was surprising considering the specs, despite the 32GB SD card included. Release date rumors run rampant, with rumored dates coming and going. Best Buy starts taking money for pre-orders without a date or data plan pricing announced.
Some videos of the TB get posted on YouTube, including benchmarks. Disappointingly, the Thunderbolt can't even match up to the 9 month old Galaxy S in the gaming benchmarks.
Then, the final nail in the coffin for me: the release of the Atrix. Now, I personally have no interest in buying a Motorola phone, but it beats the pants off of the Thunderbolt in all of the benchmarks, is dual-core, has more RAM (1GB vs 768MB in the TB), has a significantly higher resolution screen (despite being smaller), and is about 20% thinner/10% lighter while having a 40% higher battery capacity. It also has Gorilla Glass, which the TB may well have but we wouldn't know. And, to add insult to injury it is $50 cheaper than the unreleased Thunderbolt.
After typing all of that out, HTC's slogan seems even more ridiculous to me (which I didn't think was possible). Now, this all may seem overly harsh, but this is a phone that you're going to be stuck with for 2 years with no options for early upgrade (thanks Verizon!). As time goes on without a release date, new phones are being announced and released and the Thunderbolt is losing its luster. I can't imagine them screwing this launch up any more than they have.
Anyways, I just wanted to vent my (and my wife's) frustrations and see what everyone thought...
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I think the tone for the Thunderbolt launch was set with HTC's ridiculously pretentious slogan "this isn't your dream phone, it's the one after that." The expectations were set high. And them came the official announcement, with no release date and lackluster specs. But then again, the dual-core phones that were announced probably wouldn't be out for awhile, so excitement for the TB remained high.
Next, the Verizon iPhone is announced and then released shortly after. Pricing information puts the Thunderbolt at $250, making it one of the most expensive phones out there. This was surprising considering the specs, despite the 32GB SD card included. Release date rumors run rampant, with rumored dates coming and going. Best Buy starts taking money for pre-orders without a date or data plan pricing announced.
Some videos of the TB get posted on YouTube, including benchmarks. Disappointingly, the Thunderbolt can't even match up to the 9 month old Galaxy S in the gaming benchmarks.
Then, the final nail in the coffin for me: the release of the Atrix. Now, I personally have no interest in buying a Motorola phone, but it beats the pants off of the Thunderbolt in all of the benchmarks, is dual-core, has more RAM (1GB vs 768MB in the TB), has a significantly higher resolution screen (despite being smaller), and is about 20% thinner/10% lighter while having a 40% higher battery capacity. It also has Gorilla Glass, which the TB may well have but we wouldn't know. And, to add insult to injury it is $50 cheaper than the unreleased Thunderbolt.
After typing all of that out, HTC's slogan seems even more ridiculous to me (which I didn't think was possible). Now, this all may seem overly harsh, but this is a phone that you're going to be stuck with for 2 years with no options for early upgrade (thanks Verizon!). As time goes on without a release date, new phones are being announced and released and the Thunderbolt is losing its luster. I can't imagine them screwing this launch up any more than they have.
Anyways, I just wanted to vent my (and my wife's) frustrations and see what everyone thought...
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I'm upgrading from an old school flip phone so I'm happy no matter what
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I'm upgrading from an old school flip phone so I'm happy no matter what
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Haha I'm just upgrading my DINC but I'm happy still too
I don't care about having the cutting edge I just want a decent phone and the TB is a decent phone
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I agree. No matter what you buy , there will be a better phone out the next week. Just get a good one and you will be happy with it. I have had my Inc almost a year and I have been very happy with it. It will be the same with the Tbolt.
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The OP is also forgetting that the Atrix is on another network.
So while it may be cheaper up front, you would end up paying far more per month for less data. Also, the Atrix is not LTE but HSPA+ so as ATT starts moving over to LTE, the ATRIX wont take advantage of it.
I agree but thunderbolt is still a good phone. Oh by the way Atrix is lte capable just reaserch it. I might be going with the atrix even though I hate Motorola. I might return.my inspire 4g since the bumped up the attic release date.
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This Best Buy commercial explains it all... I love it. The BB program kinda sucks, but the commercial hits technology to the tee.
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I agree but thunderbolt is still a good phone. Oh by the way Atrix is lte capable just reaserch it. I might be going with the atrix even though I hate Motorola. I might return.my inspire 4g since the bumped up the attic release date.
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I thought that was debunked since the FCC papers do not show a LTE radio in there. The rumor is of a possibly refreshed Atrix down the line with an LTE chip, but I thought the current one is categorically not LTE able.
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I thought that was debunked since the FCC papers do not show a LTE radio in there. The rumor is of a possibly refreshed Atrix down the line with an LTE chip, but I thought the current one is categorically not LTE able.
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No I swear I read from a very credible website and even could have been one of the videos where they said. Atrix 4G will be only phone that will be able to do LTE down the line when ATT upgrades their network. It was a few months back, I am sure if you google it a little, you might be able to dig it up.
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I don't care about having the cutting edge I just want a decent phone and the TB is a decent phone
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Unfortunately the price point on the TB is not appropriate for a "decent phone".
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The OP is also forgetting that the Atrix is on another network.
So while it may be cheaper up front, you would end up paying far more per month for less data. Also, the Atrix is not LTE but HSPA+ so as ATT starts moving over to LTE, the ATRIX wont take advantage of it.
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No I'm not forgetting that at all. If I could live with 2GB/mo AT&T would be substantially cheaper than Verizon for me, but I won't go to AT&T as a matter of principal. But I don't think the argument holds up either way, because $200 has always been the ceiling for new phones on both networks (aside from the ridiculous Droid R2-D2).
My post is really about the phones anyway--my main gripe is that HTC/Verizon are pitching (and charging for) the TB as if it's some cutting-edge device, when it's nothing more than an incremental improvement over what was already out there and has significantly inferior hardware to a phone that will be shipping before it.
And as for LTE, lots of places will be waiting 2+ years for it to come to their area.
To the OP, what was u expecting some quad core phone that can run crysis on max. Sang so what if its not the fastest dam phone stay with ur Samsung. You act like this is some type of game system lol. I don't see the price as an issue. Really is a duel core going to improve my Twitter , Facebook, angry birds experience no lol. If the bionic,GS2
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Unfortunately the price point on the TB is not appropriate for a "decent phone".
No I'm not forgetting that at all. If I could live with 2GB/mo AT&T would be substantially cheaper than Verizon for me, but I won't go to AT&T as a matter of principal. But I don't think the argument holds up either way, because $200 has always been the ceiling for new phones on both networks (aside from the ridiculous Droid R2-D2).
My post is really about the phones anyway--my main gripe is that HTC/Verizon are pitching (and charging for) the TB as if it's some cutting-edge device, when it's nothing more than an incremental improvement over what was already out there and has significantly inferior hardware to a phone that will be shipping before it.
And as for LTE, lots of places will be waiting 2+ years for it to come to their area.
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Simple as this, dont like it.. dont buy it.
if you have to gripe to world so be it, but most people wont see eye to eye with you
i agree the price tag may be high but thats all i agree with
I will never stray from HTC again after i tried other android phones. they are **** crap compared to HTC
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http://www.laptopmag.com/review/cellphones/motorola-atrix-4g.aspx?page=2
While the Atrix 4G's speed was also reflected on our benchmark tests, it didn't blow other smartphones out of the water. The handset achieved an An3DBench score of 6,305, more than 1,000 points above the current average, but just 25 points faster that the Inspire 4G. Also, both the Nexus S (6,853) and Droid Pro (7,352) handily beat the Atrix 4G on this test.
Though the Atrix 4G notched a fast Linpack score of 32.7, beating the Evo Shift 4G (29.7) and T-Mobile G2 (28.7), the Inspire 4G logged a higher 37.58. The Atrix 4G's most impressive score was on the Benchmark CPU test, where it notched a record 2,369, almost 1,500 points above average, and almost 200 points higher than the myTouch 4G (2,190)./
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the tegra 2 chip is yet to be optimize fully in 2.2 so until the update to 2.3 and beyond to utilize the two cores, it will have comparable data to the sencond generation snapdragon in the thunderbolt/inspire/mytouch 4g/desirez.
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Simple as this, dont like it.. dont buy it.
if you have to gripe to world so be it, but most people wont see eye to eye with you
i agree the price tag may be high but thats all i agree with
I will never stray from HTC again after i tried other android phones. they are **** crap compared to HTC
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I probably won't buy it; but as you said it's certainly within my right to post my thoughts and I was just curious how other people felt about the whole thing. I prefer HTC's skin (if I couldn't have vanilla) and build quality over the other manufacturers, however my MyTouch 3G is an absolute piece of junk and has been since the day I got it.
And no, I'm not expecting a quad core phone in 2011, that's a false dichotomy. There are shades of gray, and I don't think expecting the TB to beat a 9 month-old phone in gaming is too much to ask. Considering I'd be stuck with the phone for 2 years, I don't want to worry about whether I'm going to be able to use new apps/play new games a year and a half from now.
There will be a phone like the Atrix on Verizon released in Nov. From a very reliable source.
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Being me, money is an issue. $250 is obscene, but by pre-ordering with bestbuy, I received a $50 giftcard too. So it is actually $200. But I will be paying the tax of $250 and not $200. So $200 is the cost of current upper tier, so eh.
Actually guys the skype thing isnt a big suprise since the icon installed on the phone says "SKYPE DEMO" !!!
Even when youve seen videos online it was always a DEMO VIDEO of skype in action.
i am on att with the iphone 4 and was thinking about the atrix but when i seen the bionic and decided to wait i wish there was a release date for the bionic
I still dont see how its not cutting edge. Its one of the top phones that will be on the market. It has already been benched against 2 other "future release" phones (bionic & the samsung) and it beat them both in testing and the bionic is a dual core.
Yes its true there will be bigger and badder bad boys out there eventually but that is true for all electronics pretty much. Even when these newer phones come out this phone will still run neck and neck with them in terms of features and such. I can understand speed and memory for PC and laptops but this is a phone, how powerful do you need it. Yes I like the specs and all but I still dont think all the power it has will be fully tapped into by me.
Well said , my feelings exactly ! It is a phone , not a laptop or ipod.
It had a quadrant score of 1950, how fast does it need to be.
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Anyone else think its going to be almost impossible to get one? Look at the evo... its STILL out of freakin in and out of stock online...
With the earthquake in Japan slowing the manufacturing industry down, I would imagine there will be shortages of a lot of products, beyond what there normally would be.
I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
The only reason they keep running low on stock is because they haven't ramped up production. If Sprint wanted to, they could flood the market with EVO 4Gs.
I'm going to bust my ass to get on the list.
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I doubt it. Most who got an EVO now wont be able to upgrade and that means less purchases.
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Perfect reason to preorder one! I know I will.
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I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
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some of qualcomm's part comes from japan. so.......yeah.......it means delay.
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some of qualcomm's part comes from japan. so.......yeah.......it means delay.
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KIRF to the rescue?
NEW FLASH!!!
There are to few Premier members that will qualify for the upgrade now that it won't make any difference.....
Ok, maybe it's not a news flash, but my gut is telling me demand for the EVO 3D won't be as high as it was for the EVO. There's just to many choices now on other carriers and like I said, Sprint's annual upgrade basically doesn't exist for more now...
BTW, I have a feeling that the Japan issue is really a non issue; mostly because the phone won't be released till the summer. Also, Toyota and other car manufactures have already gotten their plants running, so there has to also be a way to ship them out. If you get a auto factory running and can ship a ship full of cars out, I think they should be able build phone parts and ship a billion phone parts out...
I went to verizon the other day with a friend of mine and he was checking out the Thunderbolt. He àsked how their stock has been and they guy said they have sold a ton of them but HTC has been shipping them as soon as they run out. so they haven't had any problem keeping them in stock. Im not sure but im thinking that could be a sign for us that they will keep a decent stock this time and not miss out on sales like with the Evo.
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Ok, maybe it's not a news flash, but my gut is telling me demand for the EVO 3D won't be as high as it was for the EVO. There's just to many choices now on other carriers and like I said, Sprint's annual upgrade basically doesn't exist for more now...
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Due to the recent change in the gold/silver Premier levels?
If that's the case, because I'm still gold, I'll be ahead of almost everyone. Sweet! I'm so tired of my HTC Hero already, been holding out all this time for a dual-core.
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NEW FLASH!!!
There are to few Premier members that will qualify for the upgrade now that it won't make any difference.....
Ok, maybe it's not a news flash, but my gut is telling me demand for the EVO 3D won't be as high as it was for the EVO. There's just to many choices now on other carriers and like I said, Sprint's annual upgrade basically doesn't exist for more now...
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There are still going to be a lot of people using full upgrades/other lines on family plans as well as new customers. Not to mention the people who are still eligible for premier upgrades, and, of course, those who will buy the 3D outright. I fully expect demand to be as high or higher than the OG Evo.
My store is still selling out of stock on the 4G whenever we get them, so the demand is there. You also have to factor in a year of people talking about the EVO which spreads it appeal to the more average customers, as opposed to the 4G launch which was driven by tech-types who knew it was coming.
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I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
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You don't see why plant closures in Japan from some large semiconductor manufacturers would slow them down? Not to say it's going to grind to a halt, but it will have an effect, even if only a small one.
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I don't see why japan disaster would slow the chinese sweatshops
yes there well be lots of shortages due to demand for a few months, even now the evo 4g still runs out of stock and the E3D well certainly be more popular
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also you are thinking wrong. you think if korea has been hit with the disaster, you are probably thinking apple will now rule thw world? wrong.
apple uses lg displays, samsungs chip. world can not survive alone anymore. no lg and samsung=no apple.
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There are still going to be a lot of people using full upgrades/other lines on family plans as well as new customers. Not to mention the people who are still eligible for premier upgrades, and, of course, those who will buy the 3D outright. I fully expect demand to be as high or higher than the OG Evo.
My store is still selling out of stock on the 4G whenever we get them, so the demand is there. You also have to factor in a year of people talking about the EVO which spreads it appeal to the more average customers, as opposed to the 4G launch which was driven by tech-types who knew it was coming.
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I'd say the reason you're still selling out of EVO's are because, on Sprint, there's nothing that compares to it in over all features. Sprint is very limited in what top tier phones they carry, and they just don't seem to want to stock them. Believe me, it's not a manufacturing issue. If it were, it'd be almost impossible to get an iPhone.
Here's another possible problem for block buster sales of the EVO 3D. Unlike last year, where Sprint was the only one offering 4G and the was really no comparable phones to the EVO 4G, it's a different story now. Verizon's spring roadmap has been leaked and they are announcing more 4G dual core phones in May.
If people see comparable phones sooner on another carrier and it's available sooner, why wouldn't many people just switch? Especially since LTE is the new buzz word and we've all come to see that LTE coverage is very good (I'm talking about actually having coverage where coverage is supposed to be), with great building penetration? In addition to that, Verizon is saying they'll have 4G (LTE) available in 147 markets by the end of this year, where Sprint/Clearwire looks frozen. Sprint won't even give a hint on what's to be expected by end of year. Because of this, Sprint's price advantage is gone... No one wants to stay on yesterdays network, that's clogged, when you get get new for just a bit more a month.
http://www.engadget.com/2011/10/03/sprint-places-20-billion-order-for-next-iphone-hinges-company/
Android is about to become the "secondary" phone on Sprints networks. Looking for a new carrier?
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Its simple...
iPhone sells ridiculous amounts.
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Its simple...
iPhone sells ridiculous amounts.
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Yes it does and I have no idea why. It is such a boring phone compared to the android phones
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Yes it does and I have no idea why. It is such a boring phone compared to the android phones
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I know this comment will get a lot of hate, but the iPhone is probably the best smartphone for the average user.
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Yes it does and I have no idea why. It is such a boring phone compared to the android phones
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Because people that don't want to understand how a phone works like simplicity and controlled environments. It's kinda like this....have you ever read the book fahrenheit 451? People enjoy being herded as long as they are getting what they believe they want and don't have to work to get it.
If you haven't read the book I highly suggest you do.
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I know this comment will get a lot of hate, but the iPhone is probably the best smartphone for the average user.
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It's true. It's dumbed down.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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It's true. It's dumbed down.
Via My HTC Evo 3D On The Now Network From Sprint.
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Exactly. People like us aren't your everyday user. The average consumer sees what their friend, neighbors, cousin has and likes it and gets it. It's simple and to the point. People like ease of use, and lets be honest, it's easy to use and dumbed down for the average consumer, like Chris just said. Not to mention every frackin' store you go to has accessories for it.
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because Verizon really brought the "game changer" to apple. In all honesty it barely made a dent into its customer base. It moved a few more phones for Verizon/Apple. I honestly doubt that it will be the most amazing thing sprint will have gained, as much as apple hopes it to be. Not to mention ICS is around the corner, sprint has a dang good IP of android phones available and coming soon. Apple is just hitting that non innovating road block and we will see more and more kangs from android in there software and there bringing massive changes to the phone as we know it has already been done by bits and pieces from every manufacturer including itself. So tomorrows announcement will be just another day in the books filled with apple fanboism, upgraded hardware, a software update full of kang, and nothing more exciting then that.
Its all in retrospec to the user. I'm android. And will be always. Amen. nothing more thrilling to see a beautiful os, android. Not to mention it's source built roms like CM/MIUI. Apple gets?
Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
All I have to say is they better start putting some money into the network or I'm leaving for Verizon.
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Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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i really doubt there will be a wimax iphone.. Sprint wimax is dead in the water, they are focusing on their LTE comeing early next year.. They made a huge mistake with Clear for wimax and just signed a deal with LightSquared for their wimax.. So i dont see any reason they would still contine to make wimax phones for a network that has totaly stalled.
Android is the marketshare leader for phones. Apple doesnt sell alot, they just sell alot of one model. Android is about choices, You can buy cheap ones or nice ones. Apple makes you buy their newest, so of course they will dell more than any other phone model.
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Android is the marketshare leader for phones. Apple doesnt sell alot, they just sell alot of one model. Android is about choices, You can buy cheap ones or nice ones. Apple makes you buy their newest, so of course they will dell more than any other phone model.
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Does the mean iPhone sells a lot cause is only one phone? Mm well let ne tell you they do sell a lot it hasnt been one month the US top smartphone is iPhone 4 and the second one guess what ? IPhone 3GS, I sold my iphone last week and i hope sprint gets it cause I do not want to open another line to try it
Android phones activation are raising up sky high only cause metro pcs and cricket got them now and most phones are 200$ out of contract, so while a iPhone has top sales android sales like 40%-50% top android phones (SGS 2 , EVO 3d , Droid charged ,etc ) that can do what an iphone do (like video chat and play games without lag ) and the rest of it is because they just affordable phones
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Jayavarman said:
Hopefully, Sprint gets an exclusive on a Wimax-enabled iPhone 5 starting this month while the other carriers have to wait for an LTE-enabled iPhone 5 in early 2012.
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I don't. I'm one of the few people that use 4G, so the last thing I want is an influx of Sprint iPhone users hogging up my 4G bandwidth. I don't even want an influx of iPhone users hogging up my 3G bandwidth. Remember how ****ty Sprint's network got when the OG Evo started flying off of the shelves?
I agree with zone23: Invest in improving the network.....NOT in bogging it down by adding more users without increasing capacity.
My $0.02.
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I don't. I'm one of the few people that use 4G, so the last thing I want is an influx of Sprint iPhone users hogging up my 4G bandwidth. I don't even want an influx of iPhone users hogging up my 3G bandwidth. Remember how ****ty Sprint's network got when the OG Evo started flying off of the shelves?
I agree with zone23: Invest in improving the network.....NOT in bogging it down by adding more users without increasing capacity.
My $0.02.
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They're in a position to apply the necessary tweaks to fortify the network. It's just a matter of following through on it.
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All I have to say is they better start putting some money into the network or I'm leaving for Verizon.
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I heard that. I hate the network but love the price.
I guess the iPhone would be great for my wife. I definately need more.
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rugedraw said:
I don't. I'm one of the few people that use 4G
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I think you meant to say your one of the few people who CAN use 4G lol. I would use it too if I could keep a stable connection lol. Sprint really took 2 steps backwards when they invested a ton of $$$ into Clear. Tisk tisk tisk....
zone23 said:
All I have to say is they better start putting some money into the network or I'm leaving for Verizon.
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Same here... 2 words... Droid Prime.
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I think you meant to say your one of the few people who CAN use 4G lol. I would use it too if I could keep a stable connection lol. Sprint really took 2 steps backwards when they invested a ton of $$$ into Clear. Tisk tisk tisk....
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I have the unfortunate luck of living between 2 4G coverage areas.... key word is "between". Im out of range for each and Clearwire is never gonna extend coverage to take care of a 20 mile strip between towers..
Figure I'd post this here and keep it somewhat updated so we dont have multiple threads all over the place in general for each device and news event.
1) here its Official Sprint gets Nexus First half of 2012...Sprints version WILL come with Google Wallet(NFS enabled) too....suck it Verizon! UPDATE: 32Gb confirmed!!
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/sprint-gets-4g-lte-and-galaxy-nexus-its-official/
http://www.sprint.com/landings/lte/index.html?ECID=MA:AB:20120109:CES:GLX:NXS:300x1050
Update:
Engadget hands on video. http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/
2) Also a nice LG LTE phone on its way to sprint...
1.2GHz dual-core CPU, 4-inch Nova WVGA Display, Android 2.3.7. 5 megapixel rear cam, VGA front. case is made entirely from recycled plastic ....
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/09/hands-on-with-lg-viper-sprint-lte-smartphone/
3) "... Sierra Wireless Tri-Network Hotspot will be able to connect to Sprint’s 3G, 4G LTE, and 4G WiMax networks, and support up to eight users at the same time. A built-in microSD card slot will enable teams to share documents easily.
In all, Sprint expects to launch around 15 4G LTE devices in 2012, including addtional smartphones, tablets, and data cards. ..."
http://blog.laptopmag.com/sprint-an...viper-and-sierra-wireless-tri-network-hotspot
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I will continue to update this post during CES with info related to Sprint and such...
Good to see 4 inch screen phones are still relevant. I personally think it's the perfect size.
Will keep a close eye on Sprint's summit.
I love it when CES goes on. I don't like waiting all year long for stuff to finally come out. And, I noticed that Sprint doesn't look to be providing a Keynote this year... Maybe HTC?
That LG Viper looks like a mixup of an EVO and a Galaxy
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Wish they would get the 32GB version of the Nexus
chlehqls said:
Good to see 4 inch screen phones are still relevant. I personally think it's the perfect size.
Will keep a close eye on Sprint's summit.
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yeah will be interesting to see what David Owens of Sprint has to show/say tomorrow at 2PM ET during his speach. thats the only official thing from sprint i see though.
Another tid bit that will be nice is Qualcomm's speech just before Sprints....
doubt much from HTC here or much more from sprint since they typically do stuff at CTIA if i recall correctly.
The phone looks awesome and im glad to see sprint pushing out LTE phones. When im at home im on wifi anyway lol. Ive had an eligible upgrade since the iphones 4s and galaxy S2 and both times i just decided they werent good enough to get rid of my evo. Sad thing is my evo 3d is not even rooted lol. Maybe this phone will be the phone that dose it. I love my galaxy 10.1 tab so theres a good chance
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Wish they would get the 32GB version of the Nexus
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Yeah that would have been better.... Verizon has the 32gb version :-(
meh.........
Well during David Owens interview with Engadget just now he kinda made point to say something that was troubling....
During the interview they were discussing LTE and devices and he made point to say "...well we haven't announced LTE pricing yet....." and then later "...LTE pricing TBD..."
So. Dunno if im reading too much into that as I can't see them charging more for LTE device than they did for WiMax devices as that would just be ludicris and you'd see an outrage they are not in the position to deal with. Hoping He was specifically meaning the Hotspot device plans and such like that and NOT phones.
btw hes the VP of Product Development at Sprint
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I'm likely reading too much into what he said and he likely was referring to Hotspot devices as they had just talked about or were about to talk about the new hotspot device I have mentioned in post 1.
Funny thing was during the interview most of the comments on engadgets live twitter chat were all about "ASK him about WINDOWS PHONE!!" lol
I could care less about that lol.
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Well during David Owens interview with Engadget just now he kinda made point to say something that was troubling....
During the interview they were discussing LTE and devices and he made point to say "...well we haven't announced LTE pricing yet....." and then later "...LTE pricing TBD..."
So. Dunno if im reading too much into that as I can't see them charging more for LTE device than they did for WiMax devices as that would just be ludicris and you'd see an outrage they are not in the position to deal with. Hoping He was specifically meaning the Hotspot device plans and such like that and NOT phones.
btw hes the VP of Product Development at Sprint
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I'm likely reading too much into what he said and he likely was referring to Hotspot devices as they had just talked about or were about to talk about the new hotspot device I have mentioned in post 1.
Funny thing was during the interview most of the comments on engadgets live twitter chat were all about "ASK him about WINDOWS PHONE!!" lol
I could care less about that lol.
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He was talking about "game changers" and failed to mention the EVO 4G. What a shame. That's one of the biggest game changers there ever was.
I've fell off following Sprint's LTE dance but I'm assuming the Lightsquared deal is green-lighted, pending official word?
Houston & this CES line-up makes me wonder.
Or will they scratch the 900Mhz 3G plans & use it for their LTE 4G as plan B?
it's really disappointing to me that the whole nexus line is samsung. cheap garbage.
of course, i will suck into techoholism that i have and buy the galaxy nexus to give it a shot. 3rd time's the charm? i hope so.
What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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What a weak showing for Sprint at this show...
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Same as last year when the moto atrix was announced. CTIA is when we will see the next EVO. Here's hoping its LTE
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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Yup. Ppl should be shocked sprint was even there none the less announced devices and showed them off some.
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Seriously?
When did Sprint ever show their best or anything really wowing at CES?
CTIA is Sprint's target, every year. I wished they'd give CES more "oomph" but it's not shocking.
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I am aware of that but sometimes surprising the people with an unexpected announcement is a good thing!
Even announcing the Galaxy Nexus without any targeted release date or internal specs is like a half ass announcement. Are they actually going to wait for for LTE to roll out before they release this phone? At that point the phone will become even more irrelevant then it already is now as I am sure the big hitters will be coming at that time like the next EVO or the SGS3.
When is CTIA anyway?
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I am aware of that but sometimes surprising the people with an unexpected announcement is a good thing!
Even announcing the Galaxy Nexus without any targeted release date or internal specs is like a half ass announcement. Are they actually going to wait for for LTE to roll out before they release this phone? At that point the phone will become even more irrelevant then it already is now as I am sure the big hitters will be coming at that time like the next EVO or the SGS3.
When is CTIA anyway?
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CTIA is May 8-12th im pretty sure.
They said they were releasing these phones all in the first half of '12 if i recall too along with at least 15 total LTE devices for the year which is solid imho. I dont think they are concerned with the "big hitters" coming at that time too b/c the people that want to buy the Nexus will simply buy the Nexus no matter what usually.
Big announcement last night btw b/w Motorola and Intel working together. Finally gets Intel in a big name device manufacturer partnership. Not good for Qualcomm imho, but least this will likely infuse some more competition and make Qualcomm and others step up their game faster.
The intel stuff has me peaking interest right now. the guys are going for 14nm NEXT!!
The first one powered by Intel chips(Atom) will be Lenovo and its the K800. Some solid specs there for a phone.
4.5-inch 720p screen, 6 hours of HD video playback, 45 hours of audio, 8 hours of talk over a 3g network and 14 days on standby, McAfee security, 3D gaming, 1080p video playback, 1080p video capture, *MP camera with 15fps Capability. They showed it taking 10 freaking pics in a single second!!
new video of Sprint's Nexus added to OP.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/11/sprint-samsung-galaxy-nexus-hands-on-video/
Great, here goes the resale of my Photon after I paid $630.00!
http://wireless.amazon.com/f/springsprint?tag=phandroid-20
I feel for you. When I bought my Photon, it was off CL and there was a zillion of them for sale. I seriously doubt the Photon has much resell value which sucks but at least its a solid phone.
I was chatting with another member who has Photon, cardock, HD Dock, smart controller, bluetooth keyboard for $650.00. I dont see this happening!
With the LTE announcement, honestly, I was just going to give my Photon away when the SG Note hits Sprint!
Hello,
At least on my local Craigslist, the Photons still fetch a decent amount. In addition, on Ebay, the prices are not in the gutter.
When it comes to upgrade, I am hoping the fact I also have the HD Dock, Motorola Bluetooth Keyboard, and Mouse, will bring a high enough amount to offset the next phone I get as I am eligible for an Upgrade after May 18th.
As a former Premier Gold Member, I have until December to take advantage of my last Annual Upgrade from what I have been told. I am really hoping Sprint comes out with another Motorola Flagship Handset before December. All I know is that whatever one I get must be LTE. I really hope it does not end up being a Crapple iPhone 5. From what I have read, the 5 will offer LTE and after my EVO3D experience, I am pretty soured from getting another HTC. Thus, the choices by December might be pretty slim.
J
@Jungle Jack, after I read your post I thought of something, my Photon cost $630.00 no contract, you can get Photon for $0.01, but your married to Sprint for 2 years and if you want divorce, it will cost you $300.00 or so anyway. Therefore, you could get a decent price from CL or FleeBay!
With that said, I have been playing with phones since early 2000 (BB!), this is by far one of the best phones currently on the market. We have a ton of Photon users that jump ship for SGII, then a month later come back.
The only thing I'm waiting on is Samsung Galaxy Note! Which when I played with it, is light years ahead of Photon! WAY faster (1.4Gzh Processor), Cool UI that you can draw and cut-&-paste with pen, true 1080P HD, and a beautiful TV for a screen!! (5.4")
I am amazed at the prices people are paying!
They are available on Craigslist in the cities I frequent (LA and NYC) for $200-$250 in NEW condition all the time.
And I agree, it is a GREAT phone. It just works the way it should 100% of the time. And battery life is way better than any other Android phone I have had.
Hello,
This is by far my favorite phone by leaps and bounds. Funnily enough, my second favorite was a Motorola StarTac that Sprint offered for a very limited time it seems.
Granted, being with Sprint since the late 90's, we did not always have access to be latest and greatest handsets.
It has gotten a great deal better starting with the HTC EVO 4G. I just wish Sprint and Motorola had a better relationship as I am quite fond of the Droid RAZR, but do not think we will be getting a Sprint version. I am simply hoping for simply a freshening up of the Photon before my Upgrade is void. With there reported to be a multitude of LTE Devices on their way before the end of the year, perhaps there will be a Motorola Android LTE Device...
Cheers,
J
and another thing, we have dual bands (CDMA and GSM) witch is another selling point driving the price!
dsims7_2000 said:
I was chatting with another member who has Photon, cardock, HD Dock, smart controller, bluetooth keyboard for $650.00. I dont see this happening!
With the LTE announcement, honestly, I was just going to give my Photon away when the SG Note hits Sprint!
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when do you think the note will get to sprint?
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when do you think the note will get to sprint?
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Who knows but if I had to guess, this summer. At CTE, they stated Sprint and Verzion were getting it. AT&T has it. Rumors are hell! If they don't have it by beginning of July, I'm going back to AT&T!
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Who knows but if I had to guess, this summer. At CTE, they stated Sprint and Verzion were getting it. AT&T has it. Rumors are hell! If they don't have it by beginning of July, I'm going back to AT&T!
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the notes awesome but I just can't see rocking that as a phone. Its so huge!
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Equalizir said:
the notes awesome but I just can't see rocking that as a phone. Its so huge!
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but it IS a phone! (Its really not as big as you might think, I played with one at AT&T last Saturday) Yes bigger than a phone, smaller than a tablet. 99.9% of the time, Photon is in my pocket and the note fit into my pocket.
Not to mention, the Note has so many atvantages over Photon (and I mean noticable!) that, given one had the money or upgrade available, we be stupid not to IMO.
Except the Note is still a Samsung, so will gps/data/actually acting as a phone still suck?
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Well if what they're saying on this thread about the AT&T version carries over to the CDMA version, Samsung may finally have figured out GPS...
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but it IS a phone! (Its really not as big as you might think, I played with one at AT&T last Saturday) Yes bigger than a phone, smaller than a tablet. 99.9% of the time, Photon is in my pocket and the note fit into my pocket.
Not to mention, the Note has so many atvantages over Photon (and I mean noticable!) that, given one had the money or upgrade available, we be stupid not to IMO.
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I might pick one up next year if it comes to Sprint. But only if I can get a holster for it cuz I wear my Photon on my belt. Too much stuff in my pockets already lol.
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Equalizir said:
I might pick one up next year if it comes to Sprint. But only if I can get a holster for it cuz I wear my Photon on my belt. Too much stuff in my pockets already lol.
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I have seen a few on FleeBay but nothing really flips my wig? To be honest, I rarely use clip on Defender (Likely because it winter and I have a coat and need quick access?)
I'm really digging the Galaxy Note Presige Vintage G-Note Diary Series. Room for money and Credit Cards. And if it does not add too much bulk and still fits in pockets.................otherwise, I will continue to look at holsters also.
EDIT: BTW, Photon is not only phone for $0.01, they have a 4G yard sale! With the announcement of LTE, and the 2015 death date, they need to do 2 things. 1. Get you into a 2 year marriage you can jusitify. 2. Dump the inventory of WiMax Phones. I don't have WiMax where I live and will never get it, so a 4G phone means nothing to me over a phone that is solely 3G!