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i asume you can now root a photon easily with a custom recovery and
I'm about to sell my evo 3d and get a photon (untill i get bored with it) and was wandering if there is decent development for the photon. I'm a huge fan of using kitchen to modify a rom to my liking and i always share my work(my contribution to AOSP). if it is not supported this may sway my decision. I've done tuns of MODS (mostly UOT kitchen work) and tuns of helping developers as well as fellow users. coming from evo4g to evo3d i am concerned with the amount of work that is being done and will be done with photon. thank you for reading my rant.
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knightwolf123 said:
i asume you can now root a photon easily with a custom recovery and
I'm about to sell my evo 3d and get a photon (untill i get bored with it) and was wandering if there is decent development for the photon. I'm a huge fan of using kitchen to modify a rom to my liking and i always share my work(my contribution to AOSP). if it is not supported this may sway my decision. I've done tuns of MODS (mostly UOT kitchen work) and tuns of helping developers as well as fellow users. coming from evo4g to evo3d i am concerned with the amount of work that is being done and will be done with photon. thank you for reading my rant.
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The bootloader unlock method was only JUST released to the public this past weekend on Saturday! So no, there's not a ton of devs working on custom ROMs YET... YET, being the key word.
But feel free to be a pioneer and get in on the action!
Introduction:
This project is temporarily on hold due to financial hardships. I plan to be back very soon.
Since we have HoneyComb for the Flyer already, I wanted to start a thread to try and get HC ported to the View for us Sprint junkies. I'd like to gather information, not only for porting HC, but for the View as a whole. I've done a ton of searching and still haven't found hardly any info for it.
Questions:
These are the random questions I have for now:
-Does the View run the same hardware as the Flyer?
-What all hardware is in the View?
-What are the odds of successfully flashing the Flyers Radio.img/hboot.img to the View
-Others that I haven't thought of, or don't have the time to write out at the moment.
I'd greatly appreciate all the support I can get on this. I'm not familiar with the View or Flyer at all. I come from Evo 4G and Evo 3D development and would really like to get into the View as well.
Thanks in advance everyone.
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Mine too...
Can't contribute much right now, but like the train of thought. I can't imagine hardware wise anything other than the radio is different.
I'd like to know what the flyers partitions look like. If someone could run adb shell df - h and paste the output here that would help immensely.
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I'd like to know what the flyers partitions look like. If someone could run adb shell df - h and paste the output here that would help immensely.
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Wow, I'm very glad someone has come up and decided to do this.
1. I feel like it might be a bit of a waste considering HC is SUPPOSED to be officially released in the future. So it would suck if you did all this hard work to make the port and then like 2 weeks later we get the official version to work with.
2. I will run that command when I get home in like an hour and show you the output.
I wouldn't mind helping you in someway, if I can. I'm familiar with linux command line and such ie. i know what df -h does and what it means and all that stuff, BUT I've never played around with making ROMs or anything like that.
Any help I can give, I'm down to do. Good luck.
edit: I see you are looking for the FLYER'S parition table, not the view's.... my bad.
I feel like a complete douche in doing this but I have to put this project on hold. I've recently come into some financial trouble and had to sell my View for some extra cash. I do have plans to continue this project once I can manage to afford another View. As for the possibility of HTC releasing HC for it before I can get it going, oh well, thats the risk we take when we develop lol.
Can I help beta test this once its up again?
Would it help for the dev to own both a flyer and a view to get development done?
I haven't gotten to take a look at the flyer, but I am under impression that the view is not too much different...
We also have a donation going on in the general chat for someone to develop on the view, if this works for the OP
Apart from the 4G and CMDA capabilities, the flyer and the evo view 4G are one and the same tablet.
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Fixter said:
Apart from the 4G and CMDA capabilities, the flyer and the evo view 4G are one and the same tablet.
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Yeah, only the radios and the color are different. I suppose if you could take the official HC build for the Flyer and somehow merged the WiMax and CDMA code into that build it may work, but I'm not well versed on how to go about doing that. I see builds on the Evo 3D that are Sense 3.5 but they don't have working 4G for whatever reason.
On the OG Evo they made 4G work on CM7 by building code from the ground up to work with the hardware, but it hasn't moved over to 3D yet and there is no official build from CM for the 3D. Maybe that code could be ported? Of course it would probably have to be an AOSP build which I've not seen yet for either the View or Flyer.
I sold my Flyer Wifi and picked up an Evo View 4G so hopefully this gets sorted out. Would really like to get Honeycomb on the View. I really enjoyed it on the Flyer!
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Yeah, only the radios and the color are different. I suppose if you could take the official HC build for the Flyer and somehow merged the WiMax and CDMA code into that build it may work, but I'm not well versed on how to go about doing that. I see builds on the Evo 3D that are Sense 3.5 but they don't have working 4G for whatever reason.
On the OG Evo they made 4G work on CM7 by building code from the ground up to work with the hardware, but it hasn't moved over to 3D yet and there is no official build from CM for the 3D. Maybe that code could be ported? Of course it would probably have to be an AOSP build which I've not seen yet for either the View or Flyer.
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Actually there are more differences that that, although that is where they all stem from for sure.
We don't even have source for the Flyer HC release yet, so the work needed would be even worse. It's really not worth looking at until we have source and by that time given the traditional HTC lag in releasing it we'll have HC on the view already.
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Actually there are more differences that that, although that is where they all stem from for sure.
We don't even have source for the Flyer HC release yet, so the work needed would be even worse. It's really not worth looking at until we have source and by that time given the traditional HTC lag in releasing it we'll have HC on the view already.
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Agreed
In theory...
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On the OG Evo they made 4G work on CM7 by building code from the ground up to work with the hardware, but it hasn't moved over to 3D yet and there is no official build from CM for the 3D. Maybe that code could be ported? Of course it would probably have to be an AOSP build which I've not seen yet for either the View or Flyer.
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I was reading about here for the possibility of an AOSP build, if there is one done, it's likely we would loose pen input functionality on Flyers and Views since it seems to be based on sense.
globatron said:
Actually there are more differences that that, although that is where they all stem from for sure.
We don't even have source for the Flyer HC release yet, so the work needed would be even worse. It's really not worth looking at until we have source and by that time given the traditional HTC lag in releasing it we'll have HC on the view already.
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Well the source code has been released for the Flyer on honeycomb, man I can't wait for development to get underway to bring it over the the view!
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In theory...
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Lol, eating my own words, first time I've seen them do it that quick.
Yeah that was quick, I'm sure it's no coincidence it was right before Christmas. I'll miss the hardware keys but its for my daughter anyways, don't think she'll mind
make sure to read globatron's sticky in the general section before accepting the HC OTA update. strong recommendation to wait until there is a patched hboot so that your device isn't forced back into a permanent s-on
Honeycomb for EVO View is now available!!
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Yeah that was quick, I'm sure it's no coincidence it was right before Christmas. I'll miss the hardware keys but its for my daughter anyways, don't think she'll mind
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Honeycomb for EVO View is now available. While its a huge change and many more features are available, I'm skiddish about loosing some apps which won't work in 3.2.
Please post your reviews of the new system. Many of us would love to read about your experience.
hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
Sense roms:
Viper's redline (best imo)
Myn's warm 2.3
Virus' eternity
Aosp:
MIUI
Ics from joelz or decks
Kernel:
Chad's
Tiamat
Ziggy
Hope this helps
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hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
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In addition to the list provided above, some rough methods of being able to gauge popularity/quality are by looking at view/post count on a thread.
Also, skim read through some of the posts in the thread looking for either issues or praise and the quality of the content.
Without being able to read source code, developers who post links to their source should generally be more reliable. Links will usually go to a git/svn/google code/github site for source.
If you're really curious, open up a developers user information section and look at their last 10 posts, and/or last 10 threads they started and that will start to paint a picture of how they spend their time participating in the forum.
I probably take more caution than most before I load software somebody has modified on my device. The above are all great general tips to help anybody who is "new" to a device start to familiarize themselves with the current development scene.
I was very happy to move from the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D. Good luck!
I'm in the same boat, my 3d should be waiting for me when I get home. I've been reading a lot about rooting it this morning, seems a little more involved than the 4g but doable. Then to pick a rom....so many choices, lol
We're comin from a pure power source.
I was just like you guys a few weeks ago, coming from a Evo 4G to a Evo 3D. Hope that you get a 3D without HBOOT 1.5, it's a bit harder to install ROMS and kernels on than you're used to, and you have to void you're warranty and unlock with HTC. Rooting with any other HBOOT is like rooting the Evo 4G, though.
Other than that, there's a lot of similarities between rooting the devices, but I love the Evo 3d a million times more and don't even miss the kickstand.
my $.02 and most is based on you being a seasoned flasher with the 4G.
Pros:
-Much faster and smoother ride overall
-Native 3.0 so you will finally see AND ENJOY all the bells and whistles
-A lot of the really solid 4G devs are either here now exclusive or also doing 3D so you will see some familiar faces
-Really can't go wrong with any rom you chose as they are all very solid in their own rights less the posted quirks that are just to be expected
Cons: (depending on stance)
-Still an EVO so it's not like you get the full "hey I got a new phone!" feeling
-Dev is still in it's infancy stage so not as up to speed as 4G
-HBOOT 1.5 isn't the toughest thing to bypass but does add a few steps to flashing so if you were a flash-a-holic as I was you will definitely slowwww down
-ICS is starting to come along but definitely slower than most phones
Overall you will enjoy the move. 3D you will get over probably about 5 minutes after you turn it on but it's still an Evo so the phone is a beast. The community itself is a little slow but the people here especially the devs are tops in helping out.
Currently I am running OLYPUS ODEX HD V2 and love it. I went from Vipers Redline which I personally experienced a little more solid running but not enough for me to lose the extra features OLYMPUS has.
Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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Very Nice! i would stick with a sense 3.0 rom
ive been useing fresh just for the simple fact of stability not much tweaks done
unlike the evo 4g there isnt much of any feature complete aosp roms unless you like miui style
wow thanks a lot to all of you for the replies. i honestly didn't expect much. i feel very welcome here as a new 3D user. i just opened it and i love it! can't wait to root it and try these out. thanks again to all you i really appreciate it.
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Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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YESS!! mine has 1.4 as well! super stoked. bout to root this puppy. this phone is faster by a lot.
Yea this phone is uber nice, rooted with revolutionary no prob, sweeter
We're comin from a pure power source.
I am searching for some extremely intelligent reasons to Root my Amaze 4G. This is the 1st serious purchase I have made for a smart phone. However, I have rooted an MyTouch3G Slide (3 phones in all), Epic 4G Touch, EVO 3D and Galaxy Nexus. All of those were fun to root and play around with the ROM(s). I just can't bring myself to do the same with my Amaze! Pleae reply with some good arguments FOR rooting my baby.
There's is no good reason to root a phone. It voids the warranty. Now that that is out of the way, you said you have rooted other phones and had fun playing around and learning, right? To me that is the best reason. I rooted my first phone and really had no idea why. Now I understand Android and Linux better had have knowledge of them that many don't even know exist. I'm going to be graduating soon from college and going into the IT world and having this knowledge will certainly help. Sorry for the rant but if you enjoy something and want to continue doing so, then I say rooted and enjoy the ROMs we have.
I rooted mine for the increase in battery life, and custom ROMs. After a month or stock sense and gingerbread back in December, I knew what had to be done.
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i've rooted my MT4G prior to owning an Amaze just for the lack of performance and memory. I still have the device as a back up and love it. Now, question is, would i root this device for that reason being (performance and memory) - absolutely not. I just don't see a need for it at a time being but that's just me. Amaze's performance is solid with an exception of subpar battery life lol but that's not really a big deal to me. Guess it's safe to say that i'm not as hardcore compare to some of you guys when it comes to flashing custom roms = )
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"If you choose not to decide, you still have made a choice"~Rush
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Hello,
I, like so many others am trying to decide between the Samsung Galaxy S3 & the HTC Evo 4G LTE. One thing that I definitely want is to be able to root and flash ROMS on whichever phone I get. I know that root has been achieved on both phones but I'd like thoughts on developer support between the two, and which one (or both) can be set back to an original state where it's not known it was rooted for warranty purposes. I know HTC lets you unlock the bootloader but unless there's a workaround it'll say relocked on the bootloader allowing anyone savvy enough to check that it's been rooted. Wondering if current root versions are S-on, S-off or either with the owner choosing. Or perhaps S-off is a must in order to truly relock the bootloader so it says locked instead of relocked. I also read in my research that you can trip a counter on the S3 the counts how many ROMS have been flashed... Although I also read it's possible to root without tripping the counter but if anything goes wrong, you can't reset the counter.
Now, it seems like the S3 would have the most dev support since it's been released globally but I'm assuming that the ROMS developed for the global quad core version won't be compatible with the dual core US version. Is this correct? Is there Evo dev community really committed so that I could expect similar work being done for both phones?
Lastly, I'm assuming that the S3 will have more accessories available for it given its release on 5 US carriers without any changes in the phone... Seems like a first for any phone but the iphone. Do you agree with this or do you expect lots of accessories and aftermarket items available for the Evo LTE as well.
I know that there's a lot of questions in this but with the phones being so similar, this may be the area that differentiates them. And I know that I definitely want to root the phone... No question on that.
Thanks in advance for any and all advice! I appreciate it so much!
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
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the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
kaos420 said:
All your questions could of been answered with a simple search of the development section.
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^ +1
There are already thousands of threads in this forum alone. Best place to start is the stickies in each section.
People in these forums don't usually take kindly to people wanting info, that has already been answered many times before, spoon fed to them.
Do some research and if you have specific questions about a process or feature that you can't find elsewhere, then ask.
One part of your question that I will answer, is that we do have a great, easy S-Off method and also a mod that allows you to make your bootloader appear stock, meaning it can say ***LOCKED*** and S-ON, even without those being true. With this method you don't need to use htcDev to unlock it.
Hope this helps. Happy researching.
evo401 said:
the only thing people are saying that i know about the ONLY thing that better on the gs3 is the screen.. other than that it all go's to the EVO!!! :victory: go on youtube and search evo 4g lte vs gs3.. u be the judge..
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Even that's opinion. I by far and away prefer the htc screen. It's more clear/sharp and doesn't use crayola neon colors.
OP I would also suggest browsing forum for the phones in question. As far as dev support goes, you're likely gonna have to separate each carrier version as well as us/international version of the s3.
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Haha yeah, the screen is the one place that the EVO DEFINITELY beats the S3. Most of the rest is personal preference.
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No, my questions couldn't and weren't answered by searching the forums. Rather than what IS NOW, I was wanting opinions on what you felt each phone would draw... In terms of devs and work for that phone. Now, if each phone had been released for 8+ months, that would be an entirely different story. But let's face it, the Evo LTE has been out for just a month and I'm still getting told by corporate stores (other than Vzw) that the release date was pushed back again until tomorrow. What I was hoping for was some educated prognostications as to how you felt that the dev communities would grow and take on their own "personalities". If you see the potential for growth larger on the Evo LTE vs S3, or vice-versa, etc. These are questions that require a working knowledge of a dev community and how they develop and what draws devs to any given phone.
As far as the bootloader on the Lte goes, there is currently a method to unlock and s-off without htcdev. There is also a method to take it back to completely stock s-on and "locked" not relocked. You must have s-off to accomplish it though. HTC will never know. Just look at the stickies under the development section and you can find what you need.
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Great info... Thanks for letting me know about both the capabilities to look like rooting hasn't taken place AND that Sprint will work on rooted phones. That's a huge big deal compared to Vzw.