[EVO VIEW][HC][WIP]HoneyComb on the Evo View 4G - HTC Flyer, EVO View 4G

Introduction:
This project is temporarily on hold due to financial hardships. I plan to be back very soon.
Since we have HoneyComb for the Flyer already, I wanted to start a thread to try and get HC ported to the View for us Sprint junkies. I'd like to gather information, not only for porting HC, but for the View as a whole. I've done a ton of searching and still haven't found hardly any info for it.
Questions:
These are the random questions I have for now:
-Does the View run the same hardware as the Flyer?
-What all hardware is in the View?
-What are the odds of successfully flashing the Flyers Radio.img/hboot.img to the View
-Others that I haven't thought of, or don't have the time to write out at the moment.
I'd greatly appreciate all the support I can get on this. I'm not familiar with the View or Flyer at all. I come from Evo 4G and Evo 3D development and would really like to get into the View as well.
Thanks in advance everyone.

Reserved...

Mine too...

Can't contribute much right now, but like the train of thought. I can't imagine hardware wise anything other than the radio is different.

I'd like to know what the flyers partitions look like. If someone could run adb shell df - h and paste the output here that would help immensely.
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mbobino said:
I'd like to know what the flyers partitions look like. If someone could run adb shell df - h and paste the output here that would help immensely.
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Wow, I'm very glad someone has come up and decided to do this.
1. I feel like it might be a bit of a waste considering HC is SUPPOSED to be officially released in the future. So it would suck if you did all this hard work to make the port and then like 2 weeks later we get the official version to work with.
2. I will run that command when I get home in like an hour and show you the output.
I wouldn't mind helping you in someway, if I can. I'm familiar with linux command line and such ie. i know what df -h does and what it means and all that stuff, BUT I've never played around with making ROMs or anything like that.
Any help I can give, I'm down to do. Good luck.
edit: I see you are looking for the FLYER'S parition table, not the view's.... my bad.

I feel like a complete douche in doing this but I have to put this project on hold. I've recently come into some financial trouble and had to sell my View for some extra cash. I do have plans to continue this project once I can manage to afford another View. As for the possibility of HTC releasing HC for it before I can get it going, oh well, thats the risk we take when we develop lol.

Can I help beta test this once its up again?

Would it help for the dev to own both a flyer and a view to get development done?
I haven't gotten to take a look at the flyer, but I am under impression that the view is not too much different...
We also have a donation going on in the general chat for someone to develop on the view, if this works for the OP

Apart from the 4G and CMDA capabilities, the flyer and the evo view 4G are one and the same tablet.
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Fixter said:
Apart from the 4G and CMDA capabilities, the flyer and the evo view 4G are one and the same tablet.
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Yeah, only the radios and the color are different. I suppose if you could take the official HC build for the Flyer and somehow merged the WiMax and CDMA code into that build it may work, but I'm not well versed on how to go about doing that. I see builds on the Evo 3D that are Sense 3.5 but they don't have working 4G for whatever reason.
On the OG Evo they made 4G work on CM7 by building code from the ground up to work with the hardware, but it hasn't moved over to 3D yet and there is no official build from CM for the 3D. Maybe that code could be ported? Of course it would probably have to be an AOSP build which I've not seen yet for either the View or Flyer.

I sold my Flyer Wifi and picked up an Evo View 4G so hopefully this gets sorted out. Would really like to get Honeycomb on the View. I really enjoyed it on the Flyer!

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Yeah, only the radios and the color are different. I suppose if you could take the official HC build for the Flyer and somehow merged the WiMax and CDMA code into that build it may work, but I'm not well versed on how to go about doing that. I see builds on the Evo 3D that are Sense 3.5 but they don't have working 4G for whatever reason.
On the OG Evo they made 4G work on CM7 by building code from the ground up to work with the hardware, but it hasn't moved over to 3D yet and there is no official build from CM for the 3D. Maybe that code could be ported? Of course it would probably have to be an AOSP build which I've not seen yet for either the View or Flyer.
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Actually there are more differences that that, although that is where they all stem from for sure.
We don't even have source for the Flyer HC release yet, so the work needed would be even worse. It's really not worth looking at until we have source and by that time given the traditional HTC lag in releasing it we'll have HC on the view already.

globatron said:
Actually there are more differences that that, although that is where they all stem from for sure.
We don't even have source for the Flyer HC release yet, so the work needed would be even worse. It's really not worth looking at until we have source and by that time given the traditional HTC lag in releasing it we'll have HC on the view already.
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Agreed
In theory...

spartan1987 said:
On the OG Evo they made 4G work on CM7 by building code from the ground up to work with the hardware, but it hasn't moved over to 3D yet and there is no official build from CM for the 3D. Maybe that code could be ported? Of course it would probably have to be an AOSP build which I've not seen yet for either the View or Flyer.
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I was reading about here for the possibility of an AOSP build, if there is one done, it's likely we would loose pen input functionality on Flyers and Views since it seems to be based on sense.

globatron said:
Actually there are more differences that that, although that is where they all stem from for sure.
We don't even have source for the Flyer HC release yet, so the work needed would be even worse. It's really not worth looking at until we have source and by that time given the traditional HTC lag in releasing it we'll have HC on the view already.
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Well the source code has been released for the Flyer on honeycomb, man I can't wait for development to get underway to bring it over the the view!

spartan1987 said:
Agreed
In theory...
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Lol, eating my own words, first time I've seen them do it that quick.

Yeah that was quick, I'm sure it's no coincidence it was right before Christmas. I'll miss the hardware keys but its for my daughter anyways, don't think she'll mind

make sure to read globatron's sticky in the general section before accepting the HC OTA update. strong recommendation to wait until there is a patched hboot so that your device isn't forced back into a permanent s-on

Honeycomb for EVO View is now available!!
nativ73 said:
Yeah that was quick, I'm sure it's no coincidence it was right before Christmas. I'll miss the hardware keys but its for my daughter anyways, don't think she'll mind
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Honeycomb for EVO View is now available. While its a huge change and many more features are available, I'm skiddish about loosing some apps which won't work in 3.2.
Please post your reviews of the new system. Many of us would love to read about your experience.

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Honeycomb vs. ICS?

I am wondering given that this device just got honeycomb.. is there any chance of it getting ICS?
Part of the reason I'm wondering is because I am getting my flyer sometime between the 10th and the 17th coming up according to the "estimated delivery date" when I hit buy.
I have had ICS on my captivate before I ever even got to play with Honeycomb.. my mom got the transformer yesterday.. and there are a few minor quirks with honeycomb that I really don't like.. major example being if you pull up the task manager in ICS you can remove windows and close out the programs.. Honeycomb will pull up windows that aren't open.. and it gets cluttered fast if your done with something and seeing 5 or more windows you don't want open, but can't get rid of..
no sign of ICS anytime soon but maybe if kernel source is released and CM9 development someone will port it here. In regards to the task management, yes it can get cluttered but it is better than not having it at all like gingerbread
I'm hoping they'll have the decency to update us or at least release the source code required...
IANAL, but I believe HTC legally has to release the kernel source for anything it releases. If they never release ICS, we may never get a kernel for ICS.
Honeycomb kernel might work, but I'm not sure if HTC is legally required to release honeycomb kernel source.
As far as I am aware, they did/may have use some proprietary software which would screw up our porting efforts.
So it becomes an issue of "will they" and that is what I am wondering.
Personally I don't think we will ever see ICS on the Flyer. Here are my reasons:
1. Not a lot of Flyers were sold so there is not a large user base. Thus, there is not much developer interest.
2. Sense - From what I understand from what developers have said, the kernels that HTC makes are made to work with Sense and will not work with an AOSP build.
These two things combine to make bringing ICS to the Flyer difficult and there is no one around who appears willing to do it.
I really hope that I am wrong about this but I don't think that I am.
Someone want to educate a noob?
How is it that several other devices (including HTC ones, like the Sensation) are getting ICS ports, but the Flyer/View can't? I mean, it seems unlikely that HTC released AOSP kernel sources for other devices, and even if they did, they're certainly not ICS kernels. Why is it so important for us to have an AOSP kernel (and an ICS one, at that) from HTC in order to get CM on the Flyer/View?
Oh, and then there's devices that didn't even have Android like the TouchPad, and devices that don't have their source code released, like the Kindle Fire.
I'm definitely not a developer, so I'm sure there's something I'm missing...I'm just trying to figure out what it is.
I'm repeating what developers told me or wrote here. I don't know if it is right or wrong.
I think the bottom line is that it is easier to have an AOSP kernel.
I think you can build your own kernel but that is much more work and maybe a hard thing to do.
All of the custom ROMs that we have seen for the Flyer are just modified HTC ROMs that come with certain software preinstalled or other kinds of enhancements.
More popular devices have much more developer interest. I would imagine that some less popular device owners get lucky because some developer also owns the device and is willing to spend the time.
So far, one developer said he would try to bring ICS to Flyer. He tried but gave up because of kernel issues. I don't get the impression that he did too much but at least he gave it a go. No other developer has said anything one way or the other.
I'm not holding my breath..
but, I definitely won't give up hope just yet..
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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Makes sense to me.
Shame this device hasn't received more attention.
DigitalMD said:
The most likely path would be a port of another HTC device that uses the same processor or very similar. SO when some of the other HTC devices are released with ICS around March or so, we might see some goodness, depends on how close the hardware is and if HTC releases some source code.
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This is correct and likely the only way we see ICS in a timely manner.
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https://plus.google.com/105502178297258827378/posts/PxQ6cVjVdUd
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He's been debunked several times.
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So I guess the big question as far as an official update goes.. is how much effort would HTC have to put out in order to do the upgrade...
And will it be worth it for them to do so..
I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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Would it be possible to take the pen code from honeycomb and implement it in CM9?
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I guess the pen is the biggest issue prevent the ICS update
Since it only works in Sense ROM, so even we have a perfect CM9, the pen function is wasted
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I'd be content with an AOSP rom now, with the pen worked in later.
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We will see... if any devs are willing, I am sure as heck willing to help and take a crack at it myself..
You can't do AOSP without HTC's help for the kernel and drivers and since HTC only does sense kernels I'm thinking that's not going to happen. I still think a port of an HTC ICS ROM from another device is the most likely path, unless HTC is feeling exceptionally benevolent toward the Flyer. Perhaps the Jetstream tablet will get ICS and that can be ported...

ex evo 4g owner, evo 3d tomorrow

hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
Sense roms:
Viper's redline (best imo)
Myn's warm 2.3
Virus' eternity
Aosp:
MIUI
Ics from joelz or decks
Kernel:
Chad's
Tiamat
Ziggy
Hope this helps
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hi guys i got a replacement phone for my broken evo 4g and I'm getting the evo 3d tomorrow. i usually dislike when people do this but now i understand sometimes its nice to be given direction when u really don't know the development somewhere. what are the recommended or most used roms for the 3D. maybe a few sense and a few aosp rom names. i am very curious as to what the top dogs of the evo 3D are!
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In addition to the list provided above, some rough methods of being able to gauge popularity/quality are by looking at view/post count on a thread.
Also, skim read through some of the posts in the thread looking for either issues or praise and the quality of the content.
Without being able to read source code, developers who post links to their source should generally be more reliable. Links will usually go to a git/svn/google code/github site for source.
If you're really curious, open up a developers user information section and look at their last 10 posts, and/or last 10 threads they started and that will start to paint a picture of how they spend their time participating in the forum.
I probably take more caution than most before I load software somebody has modified on my device. The above are all great general tips to help anybody who is "new" to a device start to familiarize themselves with the current development scene.
I was very happy to move from the EVO 4G to the EVO 3D. Good luck!
I'm in the same boat, my 3d should be waiting for me when I get home. I've been reading a lot about rooting it this morning, seems a little more involved than the 4g but doable. Then to pick a rom....so many choices, lol
We're comin from a pure power source.
I was just like you guys a few weeks ago, coming from a Evo 4G to a Evo 3D. Hope that you get a 3D without HBOOT 1.5, it's a bit harder to install ROMS and kernels on than you're used to, and you have to void you're warranty and unlock with HTC. Rooting with any other HBOOT is like rooting the Evo 4G, though.
Other than that, there's a lot of similarities between rooting the devices, but I love the Evo 3d a million times more and don't even miss the kickstand.
my $.02 and most is based on you being a seasoned flasher with the 4G.
Pros:
-Much faster and smoother ride overall
-Native 3.0 so you will finally see AND ENJOY all the bells and whistles
-A lot of the really solid 4G devs are either here now exclusive or also doing 3D so you will see some familiar faces
-Really can't go wrong with any rom you chose as they are all very solid in their own rights less the posted quirks that are just to be expected
Cons: (depending on stance)
-Still an EVO so it's not like you get the full "hey I got a new phone!" feeling
-Dev is still in it's infancy stage so not as up to speed as 4G
-HBOOT 1.5 isn't the toughest thing to bypass but does add a few steps to flashing so if you were a flash-a-holic as I was you will definitely slowwww down
-ICS is starting to come along but definitely slower than most phones
Overall you will enjoy the move. 3D you will get over probably about 5 minutes after you turn it on but it's still an Evo so the phone is a beast. The community itself is a little slow but the people here especially the devs are tops in helping out.
Currently I am running OLYPUS ODEX HD V2 and love it. I went from Vipers Redline which I personally experienced a little more solid running but not enough for me to lose the extra features OLYMPUS has.
Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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Very Nice! i would stick with a sense 3.0 rom
ive been useing fresh just for the simple fact of stability not much tweaks done
unlike the evo 4g there isnt much of any feature complete aosp roms unless you like miui style
wow thanks a lot to all of you for the replies. i honestly didn't expect much. i feel very welcome here as a new 3D user. i just opened it and i love it! can't wait to root it and try these out. thanks again to all you i really appreciate it.
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Well I got lucky I think. The 3d I got has hboot 1.4!
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YESS!! mine has 1.4 as well! super stoked. bout to root this puppy. this phone is faster by a lot.
Yea this phone is uber nice, rooted with revolutionary no prob, sweeter
We're comin from a pure power source.

ICS from XOOM to Flyer?

XOOM got ICS port right now, with everything working well (except face unlock, but hey...)
does that mean anything for us Flyer/View-owners? is it possible to port it to our tablet?
would love ics on the flyer
EDIT: Link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/highly-functioning-cm9-kang-released-for-the-xoom/
what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
My guess is he was asking if there was a way to port it and mod it to work. What we really need to hope for of CM9.x to arrive that will support the Flyer/Evo View.
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what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
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hahha somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or are you always this negative? haha relax
im not stupid, i know that its a diffrent tablet, but this kinds of ports are being done almost daily.
as this fella mentioned, i was thinking of a mod, to get it to work.
He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
Hopefully the fire sales have pushed HTC to keep going.
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I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
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Reading about ICS on Prime on engadget has made me interested in ICS as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/hands-on-with-ice-cream-sandwich-on-asus-transformer-prime/
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He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
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yeah i know, but since ive seen others with ics, that made me a bit inpaitient
htc sensation got the ics leaked, and maybe someone can start by playing with that one.
and i dont really care if its manilla or sense, both will do good dont think flyer/view will be getting any ICS official soon, since HC just was released.
if i seemed grouchy, it may be because I am a comp sci major with aspirations of being a software engineer. I view the question as either yes or no and then explain the logic why not. No intentions of rudeness, but I tend to assume I'm talking to ppl with similar backgrounds... At least on the net anyway.
Wooow...okey then...my bad! I should know better..
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
loni90 said:
ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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Snow_fox said:
May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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1. ICS is built on top of HC so we already have most of the ICS GUI. Google is already moving some of the ICS features into individual apps like the updated Google Search.
2. Radio is always relevant because it controls GPS, Wifi , and BT in addition to 3g.

Any chance of cm7 for EVO3D GSM?

I've been using cm7 on other devices and it's my first choice. I don't want any sense stuff....
I have a gsm EVO3D in UK.
The cdma version has official cm7 support? Has there been a cm7 port for the gsm version?
Sounds like you didn't bother to do any sort of reading in the DEVELOPMENT forum for the GSM version, which would have answered your question. +1 for being lazy.
Ok, I accept the critic, you could give me a +10 for lazy....
Can you maybe enlighten me a little? I presume there's no cm7 coming, maybe waiting on the cm9...?
iconias said:
Ok, I accept the critic, you could give me a +10 for lazy....
Can you maybe enlighten me a little? I presume there's no cm7 coming, maybe waiting on the cm9...?
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Evidently this is a foreign concept to you, but please READ. Go look in the GSM development section, there is a whole thread on it. Do you expect to be spoon-fed? At least make an effort, especially if I just told you where to find the answer.
OK I found the thread a couple of days ago and being new to HTC EVO3D I was hoping there might be more
In the cm7 thread it's plain
Quote:
Left to do:
hardware acceleration
bt avrcp
camera
3d
Thats a rom only for devs to play around with...
Surprising because the cdma version has official cm7 with nightlies and only differs very slightly from the gsm version in terms of hardware... apart from the cdma/gsm network they're completely identical in every way....
I think us GSM users got the short straw. It's a shame there's a fragmented development on thus device which doesn't seem to affect many others.
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OK I found the thread a couple of days ago and being new to HTC EVO3D I was hoping there might be more
In the cm7 thread it's plain
Quote:
Left to do:
hardware acceleration
bt avrcp
camera
3d
Thats a rom only for devs to play around with...
Surprising because the cdma version has official cm7 with nightlies and only differs very slightly from the gsm version in terms of hardware... apart from the cdma/gsm network they're completely identical in every way....
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Not completely identical, to port it over requires a fair bit of work, plus c7 has it's work cut out with the 3D camera's, chances are it'll never be perfect. Plus stock ICS is going to be another hard nut to crack.
As for the lazyness, simply type up the top in the search panel EVO 3D c7 and that would be it.
post on their forum if you need to check on progress, but it's quite taboo to ask for an update from a dev, they tend to turn green and smoke comes out of their ears if they hear that type of question and you may be face palmed.

Coming soon!!!

I have some pretty good news for you Evo 3D users i dug in and coded in wimax for my sense 4.1 rom i built for you guys... im sending it to testers tomorrow, since i dont get good wimax service in my area i couldnt get it to fully connect, but once the testers confirm it works correctly ill finish up the rom and you guys can enjoy it
newtoroot said:
I have some pretty good news for you Evo 3D users i dug in and coded in wimax for my sense 4.1 rom i built for you guys... im sending it to testers tomorrow, since i dont get good wimax service in my area i couldnt get it to fully connect, but once the testers confirm it works correctly ill finish up the rom and you guys can enjoy it
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Awesome work. Thanks. Good luck to the testers! I hope it goes well.
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holy....
i was just thinking the other day "meh, looks like sense 4.1 will never get wimax" i stand corrected
good to see you around here again
Thank you! I tried using a Sense 4.0 rom and I loved it but the only problem was no 4G so I had to go back to 3.6. I knew about the lack of 3D and that was ok with me, but WiMAX sometimes is the only way I can get decent data so it will be nice to get go back to Sense 4.0. Unfortunately I don't think 3D has much of a chance, but that would just perfect the phone, why HTC decided to go with Sense 3.6 over the much better Sense 4.0 is beyond me...
Newt! U R Back !!!
This ROM got me interested in this whole thing in the first place...
I'll be waiting with Bells on 4 your update.
Good 2c U back.
Say whaaaaaat? I was just about to leave my sense 4 Rom too. Thanks dude!
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I don't have the 3D anymore but this is still huge news to those who still use one!
This Samsung Galaxy S3 >>>>
His ROM is already the **** now. Going to be even better. Although i don't have 4g
Method1911 3DLTE
When is it going to be released
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Thanks. Lack of 4g in a sense 4.x rom is what's holding me back from using one.
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When is it going to be released
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"Soon" is a relative term and that's all we have at this point.
I'm sure that if the testing was successful this thread would have been updated with that information.
ramjet73
Oh, cool! I tried this ROM when it first came out and really liked it, but since 3g is completely unusable I couldn't use it for more than several hours at a time (mainly while I was at work). I vowed to really make this my daily once it was complete (4g).
I had actually kinda forgotten about it since then.
4g in a sense 4 rom would be awesome.
Juan685 said:
Thanks. Lack of 4g in a sense 4.x rom is what's holding me back from using one.
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bah , no 4g in romania , nothing to complain about sense 4 roms except 3d which I actually don't use at all xD but is good to show off xD
Whazzup?
Does anyone know what happened with newtoroot's 4G on Sense 4.1?
Haven't heard anything for quite a while now.
ramjet73
It's a mystery George! (Quote from Phenomenon) The world may never know.
ramjet73 said:
Does anyone know what happened with newtoroot's 4G on Sense 4.1?
Haven't heard anything for quite a while now.
ramjet73
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I'm going to propose a controversial theory. Let me preface it by saying I believe newtoroot to be an excelent if not the best actual developer on our device. He brought Sense 4.0 before anyone and it was nearly flawless on the first drop. That being said, I think one of two things:
1. Newtoroot was playing us. (I doubt it, but someone suggested this and anything is possible.)
2. Newtoroot had high hopes, but it was more difficult than anticipated and is either taking longer or has been given up on.
Those being said. In his thread elsewhere he has stated that he is out of work and trying to find some. As well as dealing with the things that being out of work bring. So lots of personal stuff may indeed have gotten in the way.
I would say that if it were possible, or at least easier, one of the several other developers working on Sense 4.0+ roms would have attempted of done it already. I don't personally use WiMax often so it is not a big deal. I do appreactiate all the devs that work on our device. I usually swap phones every few months, but have kept my EVO 3D since the day it came out. Next summer when my 2 years is up I will upgrade to something with LTE hopefully, but till then I can still feed my flashing adiction and gets lots of performance out of this still powerful phone.
I do think it's a tough nut to crack. My theory is that's why we have Sense 3.6 and not Sense 4 - even HTC had trouble getting WiMAX and 3d working on 4 (or didn't want to put the resources behind it since both are relatively dead, at least for now).
It would have been nice to have 4G on it, although I don't even get 4G in my area..
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Does anyone know what happened with newtoroot's 4G on Sense 4.1?
Haven't heard anything for quite a while now.
ramjet73
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The last I saw, that thread got locked for some reason.

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