Hi,
Is there any external Bluetooth keyboard or just
a normal Keyboard working with the HTC hero?
Or any Bluetooth-keyboard-driver?
Greetz
Jonas
I've been looking at this for the HTC Desire and have found 4 possibilities which may or may not apply to the Hero
1. Keypro on the android market claims to provide bluetooth drivers for a range of keyboards. Comments suggest it is tricky to set up but does work for some devices
2. BlueInput also on the market claims to do the same but comments are much more negative
3. Freedom input are developing drivers for Android for their Freedom Pro keyboard model and have released some
4. Chris Paget has developed a hardware solution for a USB keyboard (see http://www.tombom.co.uk/blog/?p=124). Needs some soldering and looks a bit awkward
I am probably about to go for option 3 but let us know if you get something working
alexbush said:
I've been looking at this for the HTC Desire and have found 4 possibilities which may or may not apply to the Hero
1. Keypro on the android market claims to provide bluetooth drivers for a range of keyboards. Comments suggest it is tricky to set up but does work for some devices
2. BlueInput also on the market claims to do the same but comments are much more negative
3. Freedom input are developing drivers for Android for their Freedom Pro keyboard model and have released some
4. Chris Paget has developed a hardware solution for a USB keyboard (see http://www.tombom.co.uk/blog/?p=124). Needs some soldering and looks a bit awkward
I am probably about to go for option 3 but let us know if you get something working
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Option 3 seems the most likely to work, though all drivers seem to fail/be problematic with a number of Android 1.5 devices, particularly HTC ones, including the Hero.
I have a Freedom Pro sitting here waiting to be tested with my Hero, after I finally update to a 2.1 ROM.
maybe these can help?
jkontherun.com/2010/02/17/how-to-add-a-usb-keyboard-to-an-android-phone/
adq.livejournal.com/95689.html
Has anyone developed a way to Port the Stylus APK and Keyboard function?
I would think if you get the standard blue tooth stylus should be adaptable to work on any tablet?
The stylus is not Bluetooth. The Flyer has a separate hardware digitizer for the stylus. So porting the software would not be enough to enable functionality on other tablets.
porting
There has to be away port the drivers or apks over from the htc flyer to other devices. Im reselling my gslate and buying a flyer. I will work on the porting part when i free up some time from work
not possible... its a hardware limitation not software...
thesssfactor said:
There has to be away port the drivers or apks over from the htc flyer to other devices. Im reselling my gslate and buying a flyer. I will work on the porting part when i free up some time from work
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It's not the software buddy, the screen is not capacitive! It's a N-trig active digitizer. The pen is not Bluetooth. It's the same as the HP touchsmart computers.
Physically Impossible!
Just get a flyer, its only 300... Which, looking at what the tablet can do, is a steal!
Hope that helps
The screen is capacitive. Everything else you said is true. The flyer is like a mini Dell xt2. I've been meaning to try to xt2 stylus on the flyer to see if it's the same ntrig digitizer that's present in the dell. No battery in that stylus though... Not sure why it's needed here.
Sent from my HTC Flyer P510e using XDA App,
Hello everyone,
I just found this stylus on the web and I wanted to know if it's compatible with TF201... anyone knows?
Thanks for the answers,
Tiwiz
tiwiz said:
Hello everyone,
I just found this stylus on the web and I wanted to know if it's compatible with TF201... anyone knows?
Thanks for the answers,
Tiwiz
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Looks very interesting, no mattet what anyone here says, would recommend email or call to them. This way if issue have valid return reason, email best for tracking. If someone confirms to work, does not mean all features tested. Looking more at this when have more time, thank you for the post.
Sent from Taptalk on Newt's Sense 4.0!......
the n-trig pen is a technology vendors can implement, and only htc flyer and lenovo thinktablet got n-trig support. as the display require to support active pen-displays.
you will need to wait for the nextgen HTC Quattro which were planned to have the n-trig support at well but as 10.1" tablet with tegra3. its not out and might be dropped as well.
but the technology is only on a few tablets for now.
Samsung uses a different pen technology, so its not used with samsung products at all.
Greetings everyone!
Last night I saw on HSN a new Android 21.5 inch Tablet/Monitor with a wireless keyboard mouse running Android 4.0.
First of all I wanted to know if anyone else has seen or purchased one. I searched for the device and I found a couple of YouTube videos showing the devices at tech shows and another one showing a ViewSonic version that was the same as the Acer device. Looks very cool (what I could see of it).
Second, I wanted to know if anyone has one and could give some first hand info about it. Like if it is rooted, can it be upgraded to Jelly Bean, etc.
Any info would be great! Especially if anyone has one and already hacked it! :laugh:
I was thinking about getting one. Oh and I do know that it can be used as an HDMI monitor with touch screen capabilities (Windows 8 is what one video stated).
Thanks! And if I do get one before anyone replies, I will give the low down! :fingers-crossed:
Picked one an Acer in trade, quick check online shows availability at the box store for ~$400. Haven't had much time to play, but my initial impressions are positive.
Colors are bright and viewable at any angle.
Speakers are passable and a headphone jack provides options.
2 USB ports, need 1 for KB & mouse
MicroSD slot, unknown capability but works with my 8gb sandisk
Sometimes feels slightly underpowered, especially if using lwp- not a major complaint.
Chrome & Netflix work fine, so it meets 90% of my needs. Cannot currently install Facebook native app
It does do HDMI in, but not sure about output of touch for windows 8. I'm not saying no, but haven't looked in to it and doubtful.
There seems to be very little info on these things. I did take a quick few stabs at rooting with little success.
Can report:
Was able to install stock Google drivers for adb and bootloader
Could connect to adb and push files unable to run psneuter. Can't remember error but seemed to indicate locked bootloader
Only one physical button, so no "pwr+volume up" type stuff
Able to reboot to bootloader via adb
No display in bootloader whatsoever
Fastboot OEM unlock does not seem to work
Can reboot via fasboot reboot
Sent from my SGH-T999 using Tapatalk 2
Fun Gadget with promising Features and a few downfalls.
I got one of these Acer DA220HQL Smart Displays a couple of days ago. I figured I will share my experience so far.
Hardware:
The Screen is well viewable from different angles and it stands solid no matter at what tilt you set it to. You do have to use two hands to tilt it up or downward. The one Button it has is solid. USB Ports are on the right side. HDMI/Micro SD/Power/Ethernet in the back. No VGA or DVI Ports. Mini USB for Touchscreen Support under Windows and Audio Jack are located on the left side. Along the bottom are the Speakers which are loud enough but not spectacular. The swirly silver Cover over the Speakers is in my opinion not exactly beautiful and would have been nicer in black. But that is just an unimportant detail which might not even bother you. There are two holes behind the cover above the Power Button not sure for what that is.
Android:
The Display is running with the newest Update Android 4.0.4 Kernel-Version: 3.0.21-00003-OMAP-Android+ [email protected]#1 SMP PREEMPT Thu Mar 21 15:41:01 CST 2013
Pros: Runs smooth with great Touch Support under Android. Acer delivers a Quick Access Soft button add-on to Access Volume / Settings / Favorites etc. fully customizable. Logged in with my Accounts and was able to install all Tablet Versions of my Apps. I choose Apex Launcher Pro as my Default Launcher and restored successfully my Backup from my Paranoid Galaxy Note all Apex Settings. Android continues to run in the Background. Meaning you can start a download and Switch over to Windows 8 until it is done. With the Display connected via USB to Windows you get Access to the Storage Spaces of the Display to copy things to and from the Display.
Cons: Speakers do not continue to play when switching to Windows/HDMI. Switching between Android and Windows could be faster.
Windows 8:
When connecting the Display via HDMI and USB for Touch Support you get a two Finger Touch Display for Windows. You can Switch between Android and Windows 8 by staying on the On/Off Button for a while until the Onscreen Display (OSD) appears. Under Android you get an Icon to Switch faster.
Pros: Solid Stand for Touch Operation, 1920x1200 Resolution, One and Two Finger Touch support works good in Windows 8 for Primary Display.
Cons: Only two finger Touch Support which means in some apps limited Multitouch Support (Bing Maps 3D etc.), For Gaming I recommend a Gamepad like the idroid:con - Bluetooth Android controller since the two finger Touchdisplay does not react if more than two fingers touch the display. Works in combination with a Multidisplay System (I am currently using 6 Displays inkl. the SmartDisplay) but the Acer DA220HQL can only be used as the Primary Display with Touch Support. Without Touch support or in Mirror mode it will work fine.
Would I recommend this display?
Yes and No. Yes because it is a cool gadget from Acer and is a cheap way to have a Touchscreen for your Computer with added bonus. No because Acers gadget are not always fully up to par (instead of two finger it should have 10 finger support). In the long run that will become a Problem. I owned over the years a couple of those oddities like an Acer C300 Tablet / Acer Iconia DualTouch Screen / and now this Acer Smart Display. They all had their share of problems and I assume over time this will not be different.
Would I buy another?
Yes, for my Grandma since it is perfect for a Skype Station with the Built in Camera. I would love to use Paranoid Android on this Display to adjust DPI Settings and switch to Phone mode but for my Grandma it would work out nicely as it is.
PS: It seems the Viewsonic 220VSD 21.5" Smart Display and the Acer DA220HQL 21.5" Smart Display is the same Hardware just a little different Software.
Nice Setup you got there swiss :good:
Finally Got One
Well we finally got ours from HSN. Wasn't too happy with the delays, but that is HSN (long story short they sent a unit that was defective from some one else's return).
It booted up pretty quick. As soon as I got on to our WiFi, the setup was fast and easy. I got a BIG kick out of using the on screen keyboard (pun intended)
So far it performs very well. I would love to have Jelly Bean. I really got used to the Jelly Bean experience. But that is ok. Netflix was pre-installed and has a nice sharp picture.
Missing root. Anyone have any ideas? I haven't installed HP ePrint yet (the Play Store states that this device is NOT compatible with). I will side load it to see if it works. I will put it through it's paces. I think Google Cloud print works already.
I have alot of things to check out. I just un-boxed this and wanted to give a shout about how it is going.
Oh one plus about this system is (and I am not sure if it is Acer's software or the hardware) the wireless keyboard works GREAT! Unlike other tablets when you attach either a USB wireless or Bluetooth keyboard, this works without having to install a Null Keyboard app. When I unplug the keyboard, the on screen one pops up when it needs to. When you plug the USB back in the on screen keyboard goes away without any user intervention. The only downside is that spelling correction does not work when you long press a mis-spelled word.
So anyway I will be trying things out and report here anything new or different.
And thank you for the info from you other users. My wife and I are going to use this to replace our aging and almost not even useful G4 iMac.
Again if anyone has any updates or wants to share their experiences, I thank you in advance!
I got this unit as well. As a monitor it works well too bad the speakers don't work for windows.
Not too happy with the android part though.
I don't know if the 4.0.4 version is causing this, but there's plenty of apps I can't install from the play store, including Chrome (I downloaded an apk, but that version crashes a lot).
I got in contact with Acer (nl) today and he told me there are no plans for 4.1/4.2 at this time.
Told him to escalate my request and I will be contacted by the product manager next week.
I'll keep you posted!
PS: no windows 7 driver on their site either!
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just found this driver for Windows 7, works like a charm with this device :good:
http://www.nextwindow.com/nextwindow_support/download_confirm.html
New Update - Acer_DA220HQL_ED22
Seems Acer released an update. Still Android 4.0.4
Acer DA220HQL OS Update
Acer_DA220HQL_ED22 - 390MB
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Scaler and Touch Driver Version seems to have changed.
Scaler Version:
Release: 0. WWW_GEN1
Update 1: 0.26 f
Update 2: 0.26 SA
Touch Driver Version:
Release: 1.1.0126.1
Update 1: 1.1.0320.1
Update 2: 1.1.0509.1
Build-Nummer:
Release: IMM76D.UI23ECC2_ACE
Update 1: IMM76D.UI23ECS2_ACE
Update 2: IMM76D.UI23ED22_ACE
Kernel-Version:
Release: 3.0.21-00003-OMAP-Android+ UI2xECx2 @ midgard #1 SMP PREEMP Sat Jan 26 12:37:46 CST 2013
Update 1: 3.0.21-00003-OMAP-Android+ UI2xECx2 @ devel #1 SMP PREEMP Thu Mar 21 15:41:01 CST 2013
Update 2: 3.0.21-00003-OMAP-Android+ UI2xEDx2 @ devel #1 SMP PREEMP Mon May 13 10:06:22 CST 2013
Android Version: 4.0.4
PS: Acer has one of the worst Webseites in the Industrie. If anyone can find a FAQ or anything at all please post the Links. As far as Acer is concerned my Display does not even exist.
Here is what Acer got as far as a FAQ goes: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/ask-acer/DA220HQL;-;-;-;-
here's the product page: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.WD0AA.A02
mine didnt come with a wireless keyboard though?
JarlSX said:
here's the product page: http://us.acer.com/ac/en/US/content/model/UM.WD0AA.A02
mine didnt come with a wireless keyboard though?
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Yeah found that too but unfortunately the Information Acer provides is not exactly correct. For Example they state a Maximum Resolution of 1920x1080. Luckely mine has 1920x1200 which is a important fact.
It is the cheapest Touchscreen I have found so far. In Switzerland they sell for 389 Swiss Francs which is currently 415 US Dollars. The cheapest Full HD Touchscreen I found starts at 499.-
Got the update and Google Play 4.1.6
JarlSX said:
I got this unit as well. As a monitor it works well too bad the speakers don't work for windows.
Not too happy with the android part though.
I don't know if the 4.0.4 version is causing this, but there's plenty of apps I can't install from the play store, including Chrome (I downloaded an apk, but that version crashes a lot).
I got in contact with Acer (nl) today and he told me there are no plans for 4.1/4.2 at this time.
Told him to escalate my request and I will be contacted by the product manager next week.
I'll keep you posted!
PS: no windows 7 driver on their site either!
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just found this driver for Windows 7, works like a charm with this device :good:
http://www.nextwindow.com/nextwindow_support/download_confirm.html
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I got the update pretty soon after getting it set up. I rebooted because I thought there was a crash problem with Google Play, but it turned out that the Play Store updated to 4.1.6 from 4.0.25. Good and bad I guess. I cannot verify it, but it seems that the OS Update may have caused the Play Store to show "Incompatible with your device" on a lot of apps. Not that this is relevant to this post, but we also got a new HP 5520 AIO printer so that we could use it with this (and our other Android) devices. I was sad to see that when I searched for HP ePrint app, I found it only for it to say it is incompatible. I thought "What the hell! HSN was showing that it was easily compatible!" Fortunately on my phone, I have an auto backup on install app (File Expert) and have a copy on my phone which I dump onto my network drive. So I used ES File Explorer to look at my network drive and installed it from there with no hitch at all! I have done this with other apps and they all work fine except some start up in Portrait mode with the screen being sideways on the DA220! We also have a Rikomagic MK802IIIS on our 40" HDTV and I do not have this problem at all!
Now if they put a swivel on the back to allow you to switch it to portrait mode, that would be COOL! (I'll try posting a pic! :fingers-crossed
I think it must have to do with the prop file. But I am just slightly able to understand some of the system level stuff.
I hope some XDA Genius can find a way to root this baby and maybe even a Jelly Bean Rom! LOL :laugh: :fingers-crossed:
Some apps work great even with the 2 point touch screen. Fruit Ninja is a blast on a BIG screen! LOL Some do not work like Stupid Zombies 2.
I have mixed feelings about some of the things. I really am hoping for a Root solution. I miss my AdAway app!
Hope this helps! I will keep updating here with new info when I find it!
so did anyone get this unit with a wireless keyboard and mouse IN the package?
if so, could you take a picture of the keyboard and mouse and post it here?
thanks!
couldnt find a decent/affordable keyboard with android layout, so i ordered the Logitech MK260, was on sale for 20 euro
this one
getting it tomorrow, will let you know if its a good choice
JarlSX said:
couldnt find a decent/affordable keyboard with android layout, so i ordered the Logitech MK260, was on sale for 20 euro
this one
getting it tomorrow, will let you know if its a good choice
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I am using the Samsung VG-KBD1500 Bluetooth Keyboard and a Logitech M570 Mouse.
Also I have a Snakebyte idroid:con Bluetooth Android Controller. > http://www.snakebyte-europe.com/en/container-produkte/products/android/idroidcon/ (so far no Modus I tried works with NFS)
Flipboard is a nice Software for the Display. Worth checking out. To check on the Kids or check on the House I recomend IPCam Viewer. For TV, Slingplayer with a Slingbox.
i got an email from acer (nl) yesterday, the guy i chatted with on friday escalated my question about a 4.1/4.2 update to the product manager.
same answer: there is nothing planned
replied to him this device really needs an update because too many apps cant be installed, i downloaded Chrome through apk but it keeps crashing on me.
also, the usb function (to hook it up to the pc) isnt working correctly, as soon as you switch to the monitor side of it, the tablet part becomes unreachable through usb
told him i was very disappointed by their answer and asked him to, if possible, escalate even higher into the organization
will let you know what their next answer is
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i got an email from acer (nl) yesterday, the guy i chatted with on friday escalated my question about a 4.1/4.2 update to the product manager.
same answer: there is nothing planned
replied to him this device really needs an update because too many apps cant be installed, i downloaded Chrome through apk but it keeps crashing on me.
also, the usb function (to hook it up to the pc) isnt working correctly, as soon as you switch to the monitor side of it, the tablet part becomes unreachable through usb
told him i was very disappointed by their answer and asked him to, if possible, escalate even higher into the organization
will let you know what their next answer is
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Chrome seems to be preinstalled on mine and works fine. But you are right a Update would be great and we probably should all ask them for a Update. The switching is unfortunate but since I have multiple Monitors I can Keep it on Android and still use the rest of the Monitors on Windows 8 to connect to Android.
That said I did find that the Monitor is best used as a Android Standalone device in the Kitchen or something like that. You might decide to connect your Windows 8 Notebook from time to time but thats about it. As a Standalone device it is great because of the size. I went ahead and installed one for my Grandma. She is 86 years old and never used a Computer before. She is now able to call the Familie with Skype and even get lost in Flipbook. She basically just clicks all over the place and reads what she finds. But the important part is she knows how to get back to Skype. The Home Button is big enough and the Skype Icon on the Desktop also.
odd that you have Chrome pre-installed, could you please check what version you have installed?
or even better, post the .apk here?
i dont have room to use it standalone and love that it is also a monitor
its almost perfect, just the android version is holding it back
got the keyboard/mouse today, works perfectly, would be nice if i could change the functionality of the mouse buttons tho, cant find anuthing?
I got one too in taiwan few days ago.
I found that it's so annoying and terrible way to adjust the sound volume while watching movies, such as ones from YouTube. Also, no way to root it so far seems to be a big problem for me. I really wanna install a firewall APP to make it safer. So, can anyone please kindly post a way to root this thing? thanks in advance.
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so did anyone get this unit with a wireless keyboard and mouse IN the package?
if so, could you take a picture of the keyboard and mouse and post it here?
thanks!
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Yes I got the Acer wireless keyboard and mouse in the box with mine. I got ours from HSN. My wife wants to ship it back to them because it is limited on Google Play. I am trying to figure out how to root it and hopefully fix that. Anyone tried downloading apps that the play store indicates is not compatible and run them anyway? I have some work great! Others work but are displayed in portrait mode. That would be ok if there was an easy way to tilt the display on its side!
Still looking to see if anyone has rooted this thing. We may just send it back. But I am hoping for new info soon! :fingers-crossed:
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odd that you have Chrome pre-installed, could you please check what version you have installed?
or even better, post the .apk here?
i dont have room to use it standalone and love that it is also a monitor
its almost perfect, just the android version is holding it back
got the keyboard/mouse today, works perfectly, would be nice if i could change the functionality of the mouse buttons tho, cant find anuthing?
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Chrome 26.0.1410.58
It it just the newest one from Google Play or you can also find it here:
http://apkpro.net/chrome-browser-26-0-1410-58-apk.html
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Yes I got the Acer wireless keyboard and mouse in the box with mine. I got ours from HSN. My wife wants to ship it back to them because it is limited on Google Play. I am trying to figure out how to root it and hopefully fix that. Anyone tried downloading apps that the play store indicates is not compatible and run them anyway? I have some work great! Others work but are displayed in portrait mode. That would be ok if there was an easy way to tilt the display on its side!
Still looking to see if anyone has rooted this thing. We may just send it back. But I am hoping for new info soon! :fingers-crossed:
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So far None of us seem to be able to do so. Hopefully either Acer gets an Update together or we can find someone with enough knowledge to root it. UAE4Droid / Amiga Games run great and are fun for inbetween.
so i sent in a list of apps that arent working on this devicce. they mailed me back that they would test these apps.
today i got another email....
translation:
"unfortunately, it seems that indeed a numbers of apps do not work with this device. the answer however remains the same: there is no update planned"
and now the worst part:
"this is because the purpose of this device is not to support every application thats made available for it"
HUH????
i sent a message back, telling them i was greatly disappointed and that they should make the source for the da220hql available.
not that i see that happen...
@LoveMyAndroid2010: could you please post a photo of that keyboard/mouse?
If anyone is interested in this, I can create a mini tut how. You will need root on the other android device but not on Yogabook. I am guessing that I am the only one who uses it this way.
I use my Yogabook to draw on my Note 2014 10.1 for example. Sounds like a stupid idea, but it is not. For instance I can keep the screen at any distance I want, I also can use the pressure sensitive pen on the screen of Samsung Note without disconnecting my Yogabook So I can switch back and forth at no cost.
This seems to work with any android tablet well as long as they have proper input. I tested it with my Nook Hd and it works. So if you have a 12 inch android tablet then you will get much nicer screen space and much better pressure sensitivity. The Yogabook pen has much deeper pressure sensing compared to the wacom stuff ships with Samsung line as far a I can tell.
I haven't got one yet but plan to (there are other more urgent pending expenses), but I would love to have this for when I do get it. I'm guessing that not only will it work for other tablets but any other Android devices (like tv boxes).
But anyways, I hope you share (and that the method survives the nougat upgrade if/when it comes).
Apologies for the thread resurrection. Did you make progress with this? And if so, how well does it work?
Can I, for example, use Sketchbook or Squid on one Android device, and just use my Yoga Book as an input device for it, much as one would use an Intuos tablet on a PC? Can it operate with the Yoga Book's screen turned off?