Well after reading this....http://phandroid.com/2011/07/19/dan-hesse-expect-big-announcements-from-sprint-about-4g-this-fall/
I'm pretty sure that the area that I am in will not be getting 4G service any time soon. TMobile is the only one who currently offers 4G in my area. That being said, since I will not be using the 4G service for a good while is there anyway that we can have the premium data charge removed from our bill? Or has anyone ever got it removed?
From what I remember we can't get it removed. What if you went on vacation and ended up in a 4G area. I'm sure you would use the 4G connectivity.
Its a "premium data plan" now, they stopped using the "4G access" because people were arguing the validity of it. All smart phones require the $10 add on. There's no way out of it.
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Its a "premium data plan" now, they stopped using the "4G access" because people were arguing the validity of it. All smart phone require the $10 add on. There's no way out of it.
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This.. their 4g has come to a dead halt. I dont even think they are expanding anymore
Yes that and they are not calling it a 4g fee just a generic smartphone data fee... So unfortunately if you want the phone you have to pay. Still cheaper than big red
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All smart phones on sprint are required to pay that 10 dallor fee now. So, no way out of it
not sure why you call it a evo or 4g tax, the premium data charge is for all smartphone devices 3g or 4g. if the $10 fee is to keep our data unlimited them im happy to pay it, and its still cheaper that vz or att. so im happy with that. so... no sprint wont take away the addon charge
I remember back when the Evo came out after I had got my Heroc that people called it the Evo tax. Ah well, I may go to DC or Raleigh and be able to use it. Just wanted to check. Thanks all....
And yeah, it is still cheper than VZW....
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not sure why you call it a evo or 4g tax, the premium data charge is for all smartphone devices 3g or 4g. if the $10 fee is to keep our data unlimited them im happy to pay it, and its still cheaper that vz or att. so im happy with that. so... no sprint wont take away the addon charge
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Last year it was a premium data fee only on 4G phones.
This.. their 4g has come to a dead halt. I dont even think they are expanding anymore
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Yeah, I think the LTE thing has a lot to do with that...though, I don't know what the hell they expect LTE to do when WiMax is a far superior protocol as far as I am concerned. I'm sure their engineers are well aware of Sprint/Clear's worst-in-show frequencies and power limits are to blame for the horrible spotty coverage even in "full 4G" areas. Is this super expensive switch to LTE (on crappy frequencies) nothing more than a super-expensive marketing maneuver? I mean, srsly...Similar or worse protocol on the same horrible frequencies aren't going to change anything, or even make it perform worse.
4G is still rolling out slowly, just got it in my town, sprint reps didn't know anything about it. Just tried it a few weeks ago and to my surprise 5Mbps down, and 1.7 up.
Try an app in the market called "sensorly" it will show where 4G is before sprint will acknowledge it. Be sure to follow the setup for sprint and then 4G maps.
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That or just look at Clearwire's website. I have 4G coverage where I live and in some spots here in OKC, but Sprint has said nothing about it.
The 10 dollar/month fee is to keep "true unlimited data" on any smartphone according to Sprint.. and with my usage this is still cheaper than using the "death star" or "vzw" but YMMV
Yeah, that fee is also applied to the blackberry phones.
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From what I remember we can't get it removed. What if you went on vacation and ended up in a 4G area. I'm sure you would use the 4G connectivity.
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probably not, i'd be vacationing.
besides, if i promised to disable my 4g i'd take that damn 10bucks off a month. They dont have 4g in this podunk town i live in for the next year.
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probably not, i'd be vacationing.
besides, if i promised to disable my 4g i'd take that damn 10bucks off a month. They dont have 4g in this podunk town i live in for the next year.
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and then you'll only have it outdoors...I'd add a 'lol' at the end, but, I ain't laughin'
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4G is still rolling out slowly, just got it in my town, sprint reps didn't know anything about it. Just tried it a few weeks ago and to my surprise 5Mbps down, and 1.7 up.
Try an app in the market called "sensorly" it will show where 4G is before sprint will acknowledge it. Be sure to follow the setup for sprint and then 4G maps.
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1.7 up? Liar! http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/06/13/sprint-ready-to-bump-4g-upload-speed-cap-will-raise-wi-max-to/
Seriously...I'm almost sickened by done of the posts here. Makes me wonder if Sprint seriously has the most simple customers.
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1.7 up? Liar! http://mobile.engadget.com/2011/06/13/sprint-ready-to-bump-4g-upload-speed-cap-will-raise-wi-max-to/
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Well then it sucks to be me, just got 1437 up, I must have broken phone. Sorry dude...
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It WAS an Evo tax. Here's proof from when I disputed it a while ago. I took these myself. I later realized that if I have to pay an extra $10 a month for my line to keep unlimited data, then so be it. I get close to 2GB. I never go over, but then again this is without Netflix/Pandora/etc, so in the future I might:
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1437 is believeable....but u said. 1.7 which is BS for sure!!!
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In order to gain access to the developer threads I thought I would postulate a question here.
Some background that lead to this question was the rumor mill around Big Red sniffing out Rooted users that tether.
I checked my data usage online and was able to pull up the file size of all internet transactions over the air. I could assume that if I was to tether the PS3 or used my laptop to download some HD movies or something it may be a red flag to see like a 6 or 8 gig file. Also, with a tethered laptop there would be other things running in the background that may point to non cell usage. Not to mention probably a lot more data consumption in general if multiple sources are sharing the connection at the same time.
Now, say I was tethering my CM7 nook. Would not the data in both size and format be the same as the Thunderbolt. Is there even a way for the powers that be to tell that is is not the Thunderbolt. Maybe someone could shed some light on this as it is one of the questions that I have.
AdamT.
I use 5ish gbs on my phone only no tethering. Just saying.
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I am at about 3 gig with about 10 days to go, and have not tethered anything to my phone. What I am guessing is that a red flag would be a 3 gig file in one download. In my Verizon it lists the size of all your downloaded files. My question is more about the type of data requested/sent from a tethered android tab vs a laptop.
If they can keep track of the size of the download you can assume that they can tell the type of the file.
Bear in mind that these are the ramblings of a paranoid dude. Sorry if my question is as clelar as mud.
AdamT
Tethering is free. Use it as much as you want. They are using us to determine how much data can one pull with a 4G device.
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Tethering is free. Use it as much as you want. They are using us to determine how much data can one pull with a 4G device.
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So, I win if I can get the most?, Challenge accepted!
Also this is coming from one of the most data heavy users you can find (I've been known to pull 20+ gs ) If they could tell I would have been F'd months ago
So 4g tethering is free?
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So, I win if I can get the most?, Challenge accepted!
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I'm just saying...
A knowledgeable big red employee told me today that they have been tracking the top 5% of data users and "something" was about to come down. I don't tether so I didn't dig for any more info.
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I just wonder how much data the top 5% is using. Are we talking 100Gb, or would the top 5% be down to say 15 Gb.
Again, my original question still remains. Can they tell what kind of data you are using?
It does beg the question though, was free 4G tether a stress test on the new network, or a baseline for data consumption with tethered users?
Adamt.
It doesn't make any sense for some big red smackdown to be imminent. they are giving every thunderbolt owner free unlimited 4g (phone or tethering to any device, it doesn't matter). your packets go through verizon's servers so of course they can analyze all data. they could sniff/analyze the packets and steal your passwords or any other data if they wanted to, just like any other company can like comcast/sprint/att. but do they really care? i highly doubt it. why would they start throttling users without warning? what will happen is on may 15th they will announce whether or not we early adapters get to keep "unlimited" 4g. now its truly unlimited, but i would bet in the future they will have some fine print about a ___ GB limit. you are not going to get in trouble, and yes they could definitely/easily track if your hotspot app is running or not by various methods of network analysis. rooted phones are more of a gray area, but as amazing as LTE is compared to wimax, I'd gladly pay for the hotspot.
so basically... don't worry, wait and see what the rules are in may.
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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She said, "The TB has no 4g"? Or Verizon has no 4g?
QUOTE=jordanzink;12763474]I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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No offense, but your friend doesn't seem to have thought out what she said very well. They aren't going to up data plan prices on those that already have contracts. They could yes, but you can bail on your contract without paying termination fees if they do so as well. Also, since the bionic will have LTE data (even if you don't use it), you will be stuck in the same contract as any of those that have the TB and if by chance they do raise prices and do so before you have the contract, you'll be paying the higher priced data plan.
Also, the bionic is similar to the atrix, just as the thunderbolt is similar to the inspire and other than the 2 core cpu, which will be more of a hindrance to performance for quite a while than improvement and the hdmi abilities, they dont have hugely contrasting specs. Well, other than moto blur, which is a shoddy piece of software and the locked bootloader that has about as much of a chance of being unlocked as you do winning a multi-million dollar lottery .
Reading threads like these helps me confirm why I think most people are idiots...
I will be moving from a "talk" phone to a new TB or ?? in the next week so I have been reading and trying to figure it all out for the past 2 weeks now.
A quick question...assuming I get the Thunderbolt.
I will purchase the unlimited talk plan from Verizon, then add the $30 unlimited data plan. If I root my phone (plan to do) then do or will I need to also purchase the hotspot ($20) service from Verizon as well?
If I read things correctly, all I need is the unlimited talk and data plans ($99) and I am good to go. I can then use my phone to connect my laptop to the internet and surf on it when I need to. Is this correct?
Thanks
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It doesn't make any sense for some big red smackdown to be imminent. they are giving every thunderbolt owner free unlimited 4g (phone or tethering to any device, it doesn't matter). your packets go through verizon's servers so of course they can analyze all data. they could sniff/analyze the packets and steal your passwords or any other data if they wanted to, just like any other company can like comcast/sprint/att. but do they really care? i highly doubt it. why would they start throttling users without warning? what will happen is on may 15th they will announce whether or not we early adapters get to keep "unlimited" 4g. now its truly unlimited, but i would bet in the future they will have some fine print about a ___ GB limit. you are not going to get in trouble, and yes they could definitely/easily track if your hotspot app is running or not by various methods of network analysis. rooted phones are more of a gray area, but as amazing as LTE is compared to wimax, I'd gladly pay for the hotspot.
so basically... don't worry, wait and see what the rules are in may.
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I have this thing called a contract with Verizon. It's for two years. Big red doesn't get to decide if I get to keep my unlimited 4G on May 15th. If they send me a text message on the 15th saying my 4G plan is now changed, I get out of my contract without an ETF and go about my business.
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I was talking to a friend that works at a verizon call center, talking about whether or not to get the thunderbolt. she said 3 things-don't get the thunderbolt cuz we don't have 4g, wait for the bionic cuz its bad ass, and she heard a rumor about data packages for the thunderbolt going up to $45 a month.
maybe the rise in price has to do with it?
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Sadly, no offense to your friend, but they would appear to know about as much as everyone else in VZW's call centers when it comes to things not read off their support terminal, which is to say exceedingly little, and nothing to be trusted.
Now while it is possible VZW decides to raise their LTE data plan prices for new customers they will not raise the prices on existing customers while they are in contract. Reason being doing so constitutes a breech of contract on their part which means you can legally break your contract without penalty. A contract is a two way street. You agree to pay $X per month for a set length of time (24 months in this case) and in exchange VZW agrees to provide you services as lined out in the contract for the duration of said contract. If any party performs an action that is in violation of that contract then said contract can be considered null and void and depending on which party caused said contract to be nullified the breech could be subject to any liquidated damages stipulated in said contract (read ETF's).
Now back to your regularly scheduled insanity...
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Reading threads like these helps me confirm why I think most people are idiots...
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Agreed. 100%. Reading some of these threads make me paranoid as well.
Though I do have to wonder. If I were to tether my TB to my Eye-Fi SD card to upload photos, whether they would notice, care or know. Idears?
The fine print for when I ordered my TB says that tethering is free until May 15th, 2011. It's a "trial".
In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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In my opinion, I think Sprint should do a 10GB or 5GB data cap before throttling.
Why?
We will NEVER have decent speeds due to thousands of people abusing the "Unlimited"
If there was a cap, the people that are using their phones for home internet and torrenting using well over 30GB of data a month and they got throttled it would help the network A LOT!
Most of us dont even use more than 5 Gigs a month anyways.
The whole unlimited thing just isn't realistic
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I'm actually starting to think the same, I'm tired of having to be dealing with horrible internet speeds due to people who constantly brag about torrenting/downloading/tethering 10GB's+ a month, if they are so desperate they should just pay for home internet.
Yeah, having a data cap of 10Gigs or even 5 wouldnt be a problem. There is NO way we could use that much data unless we are torrenting or doing something ridiculous. Plus, we would have WAY better speeds
10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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10 I'd be ok with 5 not so much
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Yeah I could handle 10GB when I was with tmobile i use 5+ in under 2weeks
Now I average 7-11GB
No torrents or teathering
Just YouTube and email/web browsing
My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
It sucks and I've had it stick for a few months in a row with tmobile... They gave me some nice credits but it was garbage that they couldn't even fix/turn it off when it should be...
Time will come when Sprint will have throttled/tiered data... But not any time this year or first quarter so I'm good (contract ends in June)
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I am going to agree, tiered data plans are the only way we will ever see good speeds. The unlimited can stay but not at current pricing. You are completely right, because the people that abuse it are the ones too cheap to get separate internet plans for home and mobile. They are the ones destroying our speeds. At the same time, some of the problem is sprints network equipment, but when you can do a speed test and see higher upload speeds than download, that is a symptom of capacity, too many people using the download stream at the same time.
I do agree. Capping data would be great because
-It will stop people from using it as their primary connection
-It will make more people go on WiFi when they are at their homes
-People will stop using data like crazy
If they do cap it, it should be reasonable like 3-5GB cap or if you have 2+ people (family plan) 8-10GB cap. This will actually help data speeds a lot. Remember how you got 2000 kb/s that time at 3am in the morning? Data will basically be that fast all the time.
Well I'm a hoger but I also like a cap so it can make me stop using so much even if I try to use a bit I go over so I'm trying to cut back so other can have 3g I do have 4g and lately this month I've been using it more thoe
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or the best way to have fast 3g all of us is sprint to add evdo rev b and advance to it 4g so we can use to but we know sprint is stupid and follow the blue and red haters
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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I'm pretty sure it would suck just as bad with a data cap...
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exactly. their slow data has more to due to congestion (in terms of amount of people) than people abusing the unlimited data. remember, every one had unlimited data 1.5 years ago and did not have these speed issues you see on sprint.
Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
As long as Sprint continues to offer unconditional unlimited data people will use it to the maximum capacity. That is the nature of anything unlimited. As a result, quality decreases for all.
You should also be taking full advantage of your data, you pay for it and Sprint prides itself on providing it. Think of it as a buffet.
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Sounds good to me.
But I really wish that USA had a GSM dominated cellular market. HSPA+ is just sooo much better than 3G on Sprint...The one thing I really like about ATT and T-MO.
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That n phones could be used anywhere in the world lol
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i have a 30mb connection at my home that i pay for, i still use 20-30gb a month because I'm not home, I'm a truck driver. i vpn to my home network, i netflix, i YouTube. it is against the TOS to torrent but i don't on sprint because i can at home then download the tottered objects through tonido and subsonic.
there is a market for unlimited, i couldn't go to Verizon or att because i can't afford the $300 monthly bill
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My question to the OP and anyone who thinks this is a good idea... "have YOU ever been throttled?
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I was throttled on T-Mobile... I hated it with the passion of a thousand burning suns
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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I use Netflix and YouTube and other various streams while I am at work, and when I need a program I download it on my phone and some tethering.... I use well over 8gb a month... and that's just me, there are three people on my plan (who use significantly less) Fastest connection I can get at home is a 768kbps and I'm too far away to use the WiFi on my phone (not that I use my phone at home anyways) but I tether when my sisters decide to rape our house connection. I don't torrent with it but I still use a ton of data.
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That's another point why it will suck when and if they throttle...
Netflix cannot be watch let alone youtube... And don't get me started on the lonely nights my girlfriend is out of town and I watch pRon..... It all would be impossible...
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I Completely Disagree
If you want a data cap go to Verizon and pay for the more decent speeds, If you want to be throttled go to T-Mobile. Sprint is marketing its unlimited data which brings it its customers. I agree that people are using too much but to each his own since they paid for Unlimited
Let the flaming begin
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I guess you didnt see the wsj about Sprints unlimited data today? I hope you all don't expect Sprint to still have unlimited data by the end of 2012.
At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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At 2.9 gb for the month. In 3g area I usually get about 1.4 upload on speed test. Now in getting .19 consistently ....
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You had probally reached your data plan limit, now you are running in a lower donwload speeds. Thanks
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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...I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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I have grandfathered unlimited data as well. I have not noticed this and I often go over 200/300 gigs a month as I use my phone as my sole internet source.
I am curious if they ever do throttle grandfathered unlimited data users.
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Me too... At work streaming pandora & at home playing FPS games & downloading videos, movies... lol I dont use that much though... damn
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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No, they went to tiered data so they can bill the end user for more money while instilling the belief that people are using too much data and they can't support it.
It reminds me of the early 80s when the gas prices climbed to .75¢ a gallon and the gloom and doom prophets said the outrageous price increase was because of a limited supply, and the world would be completely devoid of fossil fuels by...wait for it...1987. Now, I have looked around, and I see that people, nearly 30 years after the world ran out of gas, are still buying the same old BS and paying upwards of $5 a gallon...while the price in Venezuela on Monday was...get this...18¢ a gallon after converting to USD.
So, don't buy the whole limited bandwidth BS. My school has multiple Gigabit connections and probably runs through more data than the average small country because its a super computing node for some high end government cluster. I asked one of the EE professors how close they were to maxing out the fiber optic line coming in and he said "oh, occasionally we will hit half a percent of total capacity".
Moral of the story: they charge you more for tiered data because you will pay it.
Now, calling someone a ****ing moron because you believe the utter BS that a greed filled multinational conglomerate feeds you about why they want to charge you more dollars for less product is somewhat odepian in nature don't you think?
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This is why carriers have gone to tiered data.. just sayin'
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Hey, I pay the $30 a month for the wireless tethering even though I know there are ways around it. I always pay my bill on time and I have been a loyal Verizon customer for years... So you bet I'm going to use the crap out of my grandfathered in unlimited data!!! Why would I pay another $100 a month to Verizon for Fios which would just give me what I already have through my phone...? INTERNET ACCESS!!!
While ATT truly throttles their customers based on TOTAL download, VZW's stance as I'm told prior to switching a few days ago, is: If you're on a particular tower and it is congested and you've used over 2 Gigs, your traffic will be "optimized" at a preferable speed to allow other users to use the service. So, they throttle based on tower congestion.. much fairer. If you connect to a different tower, then all the "throttling / optimization" goes away and you should be back to your normal 3g/4g speeds..until you return to the throttled tower.
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Have grandfathered unlimited data plan so. I couldn't have reached limit on plan
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Yep! Unlimited data plans are not that much unlimited. you have probably a caped internet, complain about it. :/
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Good day you used over 300GB and you still get good speed?
Do you drop data and if so does it happen more then 1 time a week?
I would like to know, becuase I have had some isuses and I don't know how/if I can fix it.
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Well I was at about 72GB yesterday and I downloaded a 13GB torrent file and was getting over 1.5MB down... So no I don’t think I was being throttled.
Complete ameture or "noob" as you guys say. Are these razrs simply not meant for 3g? I mean it works, but I had an iphone before and it took no time for a song on pandora to buffer. it takes an eternity on my razr.. Obviously the phone isn't firing on all cylinders in 3g but let's just say Iphone 3g > RAZR 3g. Somebody care to call me out and explain?
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Realize I spelled "amateur" wrong. Trying out swift key today and swype no longer is spelling for me.
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Droped data 3 times today in two places with -69dbm to -86dbm or 3-5 bars. It's really starting to bug me.
Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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Me too, I came into android with the impression that everything was supposed to be more open and free, well I definitely feel tied down when I'm in 5 bars 3g blue lettering, and I start an app and it goes white lettering. It's ridiculous. I didn't understand what Sprint was talking about in those commercials talking about other companies slowing your data down, I fully understand what they mean now. I like android a lot, but this pisses me off.
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I really think this has more to do with your location than a blanket policy. I'm in Boston and the coverage is great here and I never have any of these issues.
You guys are seeing data-dropping and 3G/4G hand-off issues (not throttling). I see this often on the west side of Indianapolis. I spoke to VZW about it today:
https://forums.motorola.com/posts/97c770a3e8
I have been reading a lot in to it and I think thats it. It falls inline with what I was told about the phone geting an update. (He said it could very well be ICS too, but that seems unlikely now.)
This is the last thing that I would ever think to go bad with a motorola phone. I could see the GPU or CPU sucking or the FC all over, but I ever would have guessed data droping. Now I am starting to wish I got the 720p HTC phone.
I have a high degree of confidence that the issues will be resolved and that Motorola will remain the best hardware choice going forward on USA CDMA networks.
http://m.afterdawn.com/article.cfm/2012/04/04/sprint_confirms_4g_lte_will_be_unlimited
Woohoo
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I should hope so. They charge you $10 a month extra now for data.
I agree. We got boned hard with crappy WiMax. 3G has been awful lately. We need a break.
Jeff_in_LA said:
I agree. We got boned hard with crappy WiMax. 3G has been awful lately. We need a break.
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Same thing here in NJ.
ChadH42 said:
Same thing here in NJ.
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Ever since sprint got the iPhone, bandwidth has gone to crap. It's that simple. That's why they didn't get the iPad.. already strained 3g network.
"Why Sprint Got Shut Out of Apple’s iPad Party"
http://mashable.com/2012/03/08/why-no-sprint-ipad/
So lte phones will be out soon, but when will we have lte service?
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unlimited, on a limited network. Look how much 4g verizon,att has. I believe sprint has the smallest footprint when it comes to 4g. I know I'll probably never see it in West Virginia.
I use to have 5 lines with Sprint on their everything family plan. I've winded down to 2 and in May it'll be 0. Their data's slow, in DC. To load Google Maps to find a place near you took a couple of minutes. It was embarrassing.
Sprint - 2 Smartphone lines, $150 (unlimited data)
ATT - 2 smartphone lines, $150 (3gb data)
VZ - 2 smartphone lines, $150 (4gb data)
All our texts go via Google Voice for over a year now....
Honestly, when I hear unlimited, I'm really hearing "slow."
Why does everyone hate sprints data? Its always been AMAZING for me, 3G is always atleast 1mbps can sometimea get up around 1.8, I have 4g in my home town and ive gotten it in quite a few other states for example mississippi, missouri, etc.. I usually get around 8-10 mbps on 4g nd I knoe thats not up to speed with lte but thats more than ill ever need haha besides ive used their network to download over 15gbs of movies in the same week before and that really puts their unlimited plan to use!
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Most people get way less than that
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I made sure to point out that graduated it's in DC... The voice calls are always greater, but data.... that's another story.
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are they going to charge $10 "premium" data?
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are they going to charge $10 "premium" data?
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They already do, the 10$ premium data is for all smartphones with or without 4G capabilities... Here ya go...
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They already do, the 10$ premium data is for all smartphones with or without 4G capabilities... Here ya go...
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I know that they already do, when I signed up for them they told me that this fee was because of the 4G connectivity. So now I am wondering if this is going to be charged when you use an LTE phone?
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I know that they already do, when I signed up for them they told me that this fee was because of the 4G connectivity. So now I am wondering if this is going to be charged when you use an LTE phone?
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changed from a 4g fee to a smartphone fee ages ago...so if your LTE phone is a smartphone (always will be) $10 you pay yes?
i am wondering if i should get this phone and how development is going in these forums as i have a rezound and my contract is due in september should i get this phone in august as that is when i can cancel my contract or should i wait to see what else is released im switching to sprint as verizon decided to end unlimited data and i am not willing to pay retail price on a phone as i have already paid retail for the rezound so what are all of your experiences with this phone should i go for it or nah i dont like the nexus or gs3 help please!
Personally I love my EVO LTE. Honestly since you seem to be from Huston I would definitely drop Verizon and pick up this phone with Sprit.
A.) The rates are cheaper and you get TRUE unlimited data.
B.) Huston is one of the first markets that will be getting LTE on the 15th of this month so it should be running great by August.
C.) This phone is just so sexy it had to get its own letter just for that.
I had my OG EVO for 2 years and loved it. Now that I have the LTEVO I will never look back, I love this phone.
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Argh! Damnit, nevermind... I was going with my troll mentality on this one...
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Be nice, let the spelling go......
woody296 said:
Be nice, let the spelling go......
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It's not that, but that paragraph has tried to disguise itself as a sentence.
You being in the first LTE roll out market, I say HELL YEAH. I would run and not walk to Sprint today and lock in unlimited data. Verizon's prices are out of control.
As a fellow Houstonian, get Sprint's EVO LTE. In about a little over a week LTE will be officially switched on. The women (or me, if you're into that sort of thing) who will fall for you will be in the thousands.
Yea I'd say switch as well. One of the early ones with LTE. I'm in Roanoke Virginia. I never came close to seeing wimax and highly highly doubt I'll see lte during this phones life.
Verizon is money hungry and petty. I'd say switch in a heartbeat and try sprints lte
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Honestly, I probably would be with Verizon right now, if it weren't for the fact that Sprint just has a wider selection of more appealing phones. Another thing that sucks about Verizon is price! Sprint seems to actually be making an effort now to listen to customers and make them happy, so if you can wait for LTE and Network Vision upgrades, I think Sprint will be a better value long term.
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i mean i only pay 70 bucks a month for unlimited everything because i am a vip member of verizon but no unlimited data is going to kill me i mean i have house internet but im rarely home and i use my laptop more with the hotspot off my rezound so easily i get at least 20-30gbs a month and these data plans they have released are too crazy so i think i am going with sprint on this one and yes i do remember the good old days with the evo 4g got it when it barely came out but switched after my contract was up because verizon got 4g lte but yes i am switching back to sprint and i am getting this phone the specs on this beast are awesome and then its coming out in white! oh yeah!
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i mean i only pay 70 bucks a month for unlimited everything because i am a vip member of verizon but no unlimited data is going to kill me i mean i have house internet but im rarely home and i use my laptop more with the hotspot off my rezound so easily i get at least 20-30gbs a month and these data plans they have released are too crazy so i think i am going with sprint on this one and yes i do remember the good old days with the evo 4g got it when it barely came out but switched after my contract was up because verizon got 4g lte but yes i am switching back to sprint and i am getting this phone the specs on this beast are awesome and then its coming out in white! oh yeah!
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Sprint having the HTC EVO line of phones is worth the switch. Best smartphones ever made!
I dropped Verizon on Launch day of the EVo. I've had Sprint for over 10 years.
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Please do!! get the Rezound. That way we can have one less taking room of the LTE signal.
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I dropped Verizon on Launch day of the EVo. I've had Sprint for over 10 years.
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Did you have both Sprint and Verizon then? Your comment confused me, since the EVO is only two years old. Your two sentences seemed to contradict one another.
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Did you have both Sprint and Verizon then? Your comment confused me, since the EVO is only two years old. Your two sentences seemed to contradict one another.
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He is obviously a time traveler.
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He is obviously a time traveler.
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He better watch out, Apple just patented time travel yesterday.
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He better watch out, Apple just patented time travel yesterday.
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It's cool all he has to do is go back to the day before yesterday and patent it himself.
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It's cool all he has to do is go back to the day before yesterday and patent it himself.
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Oh crap, it turns out that Apple patented "anything to do with time" in 1996, so his machine MIGHT be stuck in ITC for a few weeks.
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Sprint having the HTC EVO line of phones is worth the switch. Best smartphones ever made!
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i agree with you on that one i still have my evo 4g with the wifi script and use it as an mp3 for the car!
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let me help you out here my friend......... think about this....
is unlimited data even a validated feature when the fastest download speed you will achieve will be 2 mb down? here is my argument. at this point, this means you will ALWAYS be on wifi when at home, assuming you have wifi....
so the question is, how FAST will your carrier connection be, and how much of a *#&$ing nightmare is it going to be for YOU to have UNGODLY SLOW mobile data...?
if this does not apply to you, (meaning you never access internet when on the go - unlikely) then disregard this analysis.
here is the thing...
on verizon's network, your mobile connection will be conveniently fast, this will be something you notice, trust me.
so here is what i would do. if it were me in your shoes... stay with the faster network. these are not "phones" they are computers. and how irritating as **** is it when your laptop loads web pages in 30 seconds. or even 10........... try to fathom what this transition will be to you and how it will effect you personally.
1. use wifi when at home (not sure why anybody wouldn't anyways, it is always faster) this will save your "usage" of your limited data plan.
2. use that 2 gb or whatever data plan you have, simply to conveniently access things while on the move.
3. thank me for this post. i probably saved you from hanging yourself.