Hi all,
So I'm curious is there is a program that will work as a webtop for my Atrix. I have a Windows 7 PC and don't want to spring for the webtop hardware, but would love to be able to plug my phone into my laptop and use it like the webtop. Does such a thing exist? I've been through the webtop search results and haven't seen anything like it.
Thanks!
The webtop hardware is just a keyboard and monitor that you plug into your phone to make it look like a laptop. It runs Firefox off your phone so you can get the "full" web experience without lugging around a full sized laptop. So no, its not a software thing you can do. And why would you? if you have a laptop right there use that to browse the web.
Shikyo said:
The webtop hardware is just a keyboard and monitor that you plug into your phone to make it look like a laptop. It runs Firefox off your phone so you can get the "full" web experience without lugging around a full sized laptop. So no, its not a software thing you can do. And why would you? if you have a laptop right there use that to browse the web.
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True, but the phone features on the computer are kind of handy. It may not be the most practical thing to have, but if its out there, that would be nifty!
+1 for first response though
Sonicmax2k2 said:
True, but the phone features on the computer are kind of handy. It may not be the most practical thing to have, but if its out there, that would be nifty!
+1 for first response though
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the entire webtop OS is contained within your phone. the only way to enable it is to connect an external HDMI display to it, and no, your laptop is not an external HDMI display. you MUST use a monitor, TV or other device made to display HDMI input signals.
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the entire webtop OS is contained within your phone. the only way to enable it is to connect an external HDMI display to it, and no, your laptop is not an external HDMI display. you MUST use a monitor, TV or other device made to display HDMI input signals.
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Awesome, thank you!
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I know the Titan doesn't support USB Host mode, but I've heard there were alternatives like using CF Cards or something. Can anyone give me more details or point me in the direction of how to achieve this? Instead of buying a microSD card, I wouldn't mind just using one of my external HD to hold my stuff. It would be cool to read data off of flashdrives too.
I've never heard mention of any possibilities of USB host on the mogul. If someone does make a USB host CF card (never heard of one), I don't think you're going to find any way to interface it with the mogul. And the mogul probably wouldn't be able to power an external hdd, so you'd have to have a power supply and be tethered to the wall. At that point, you might as well carry a laptop around and store things on it, and just forget about USB host on the mogul.
If I had to guess I think you would see a Bluetooth harddrive before you saw anything like that.
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If I had to guess I think you would see a Bluetooth harddrive before you saw anything like that.
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That is already on the way...
http://www.seagate.com/www/en-us/products/consumer_electronics/DAVE/
theoretically it could be done with MicroSDIO, but i dont know if the mogul supports SDIO
plus i doubt anyone will make a USB controller in an MicroSDIO card, lol
wow that bluetooth harddrive looks promising, but the speed must suck :/. yea using a laptop would work, but its still too big and uses a lot more power. i had this idea, run mobiletorrent on the phone attached to a harddrive. it would use less power and its still smaller than a laptop.
How much storeage do you need?
I looked at the bluetooth drive also and it looks cool, and probably slow since i think bluetooth is ~700kbps, sort of like the speed you get beaming from one to another with bluetooth, which I do to and from my laptop now and it is kind of creepy slow. If you need more than the 8gigs that a microSD can do for now then that might be the way,,,,,,wait,,,,I remember seeing a shared WiFi drive some place, that would be lots faster i bet.
Hello all
I have my Atrix for about 3 months now, and from the beginning was thinking on buying the lapdock aswell but held myself due to its over expensive price (500$ for a damn docking!!!). Personally I don't see any reason to buy a docking for just 1 device in over 150$.
I've got now a chance to buy a semi-used one for 210$ (with a spare charger) and I wanted some consolt about it:
1) Is it possible to write office docs such as word and excell on it?
2) Is it possible to connect USB storage devices to it?
Since my primery uses for it will be as a working tool for docs writing (Thesis, reports and stuff), that can replace my aging laptop and instead of buying a notebook. will it be enough for my uses?
Can I use a Ubuntu hack to make it work as a Linux laptop?
Does it worth the 210$? or should I remain assertive on my "not over 150$" policy?
Much 10xs for all
I have had mine for a month now and in my opinion is OK but very limited. First there is the WIFI only unless you get the tethering plan or can get the hack to work (I have not yet got it to work). I use mine for remotely connecting to my Windows server but use a paid app Pocketcloud which works fine with the full screen mode on the lapdock although sizing the screen is sometimes a problem.
In answer to your questions:
1 If there is an app for Office docs which there is the answer is Yes but all the lapdock is really is a large screen for your phone, if you can do it on the phone you can do it on the lapdock.
2. I believe you can but it needs a hack
In my opinion it is not really yet a substitute for a laptop but if the hacks for Ubantu, tethering, etc are refined it may be in time but it in all honesty does not appear the be there yet.
As far as price, probably worth $200.00 to me to throw in the car so that I have a larger screen to log into my server when I am on the road etc without wireless, but that is a decision you would have to make.
You can buy it cheaper online, refurbished. It comes in very good working condition. My first one had a dead pixel, but AT&T let me bring it in and they gave me a new refurb'd.
They're 175 + tax online.
It says that flash drives and mice are supported. But I'm not sure. Haven't tried.
There's also a Google Docs app if you don't want to mod your WebTop. You can get OpenOffice if you use WebTop2SD, or the Debian mod.
Hey
first 10x to you both
Second, did I understand you correct? in webtop mod I cant use 3G? whats the point then? shouldnt it supposed to be a "laptop" with all the capabilities of the Atrix?
anyway, Sinful, can you give me a link for this price?
Another question, Does anyone knows if there are 10 intch screens with HDMI inlet? It ca be a cheap replacement for the lapdock....
You CAN connect with 3G with the regular phone interface which can be full screen on the lapdock. What you cannot do without the ATT tethering plan is to use the "full" Firefox browser on the lapdock.
For the most part it works fine just using the phone interface with the phone's browser in full screen mode.
I bought a refurb from lapdock from att and have been pleased with it. I have done the debian hack and the tethering hack to get firefox to work with my data plan. In reguards to your second question, I have hooked up external usb drives without problem. It gets mounted just fine and I am able to copy files without problem. Open Office also works well.
O.K
Thanks for the clarification.
Thats quite ****ty! Why would they do that?
Anyhow, since i'm not an AT&T costumer, I obviesly dont have the 'AT&T tethering program', so I guess it will be problematic for me to use the 3G.
I dont see what the use of the lapdock if I cant use my 3G, and I really dont want to use the phone browser in full mode to be able to do so.
Well, we will have to wait for the 2.3.4 official AT&T rom, and maybe they will enable this, or just wait for a skillful dev that will do that...
Which tethering hack did you use? I could not get mine to work. Thanks
AT&T thinks that using an external display of ANY form is considered tethering, even though its technically the same "computing device", just the output/input being redirected. I had a major "phone fight" with AT&Ts support, and am in talks with my lawyer if this actually enforceable. But yes, if you want to use the standard 3G web connectivity on your webtop's Firefox browser, AT&T requires you to get the 45 USD dataplan.
Alternatively you can try FIREFOX from the app market, and run it "fullscreen" through your Android GUI-"window".
As for office application that does Microsoft's office 2010 documents, I swear by QUICK OFFICE PRO. It does excel, word, PowerPoint and adobe PDF to create/edit.
I use my ATRIX as a semi desktop on the go, via Bluetooth keyboard and the ATRIX plugged into any TV or monitor that has a DVI (with HDMI-2-DVI adapter) or HDMI jack, and use the ATRIX itself as a mouse, since the touchscreen turns into a laptop-style -mousepad
There are mods out there to run an (almost) full Ubuntu, but last time I checked they had massive storage constraints trying to make it work all the way. Not sure if they overcome them by now.
But since the bootlaoder can be now unlocked, we probably will see soon some cool ROMS that allow us to use the ATRIX in a full Ubuntu environment.
Just hoping :-D
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I have been using my atrix to do my general doc file typings. So far I am happy.
here are some stuff that you may need to know:
1. you can use an external drive as long as it is formatted FAT32.
2. you can use a cable mouse
3. look under development section and look up debian and ubuntu images for webtop. I found debian more reliable but ubuntu solution has more flexibility.
Using either solution you can install koffice or openoffice for your typing needs. If you simply want to type in text and do the formatting at a later time look up the "easy_v0.2.5-signed.zip" under debian solution. It will give you a on screen window for typing similar to notepad which is pretty nice.
There is also the webtop2sd project that is in beta. I suggest for it to come out of beta as it is not ready for general public yet.
I owned one , had hacked 3g tethering working and my opinion is NO not worth it unless you can get for 100-150 then its just OK
No. Id wait to see if there is any official webtop improvements....out of the box there is very little funvtionality.
Also, moto has said that there will be more accesories, and they have filed for a Tabdock....which may be much better if its basicly a xoom transformer. I think they released the lapdock first more as a webtop beta and to not have a tabdock compete with their zoom.
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Ive got one, and the usb drive works fine, and i have a wireless mouse that seems to work just fine, it does what ever your phone does, and stores it on your phone, so... if you consider your phone your primary computer then this is for you.... i will be trading mine in on a laptop or at the very least a net book of some kind that will allow me to use financial software and other windows/mac essential software...
its a neat idea, but at this stage its gimmicky at best.
vonh
Sorry to dig this thread up, but I just got my Lapdock and in the last month it has matured a bit more, with lots of hacks to install several Linux distros allowing to install native Linux apps to the environment.
So far, I'm very pleased and glad to leave the 15.4" laptop at home.
This is what I use my Lapdock for:
1. Remote into my job Servers and Workstations through LogMeIn. I still don't jump into Cytrix yet.
2. Browse the web natively through full Firefox for research and entertainment.
3. Remotely manage my home's NAS
4. Download, display an manage files (.RAR, .ZIP, .APK, .DOC, .PPS, .XLS, .PDF, etc)
5. A few games here and there (like AngryBirds) but honestly, I prefer to play them on the phone itself due to multitouch.
6. I manage several personal and business websites and portals, and I can pretty much do all I need to accomplish this. (FTP, Edit, Upload, Download, Code, etc)
What's lacking on the Lapdock:
1. No front Webcam (no way to answer a video call from Google Voice, Skype, etc)
2. No fron Microphone (I constantly find myself yelling so people on the other side of the line can hear me, I now use a wired headset. Maybe a BT headset would be more comfortable though.)
3. No way to input international accented characters (I hope to find a way to hack a way to implement this.)
4. No accelerated video under Webtop?
My conclusion:
For me, I think that overall it's a great complement to my Atrix as long as you don't pay more than $200 for it.
Cheers!
Rayan
I've just read that i can use Ubuntu on the Atrix (I'm running turls v8), but I am a little confused as to how I need to connect the phone to the laptop. Whats the minimum type of dock can I get away with?
thanks
Kam
the Motorola lapdock is enough...?
I don't understand...
ifalldownalot said:
the Motorola lapdock is enough...?
I don't understand...
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Thanks. I forgot to clarify. II bought the phone on ebay and I font have any type of dock at all. Thanks.
The phone doesn't come with it, you buy the lapdock separately.
CM7 and CM9 do not support webtop though. So the best you'll get on that rom right now is HDMI landscape mirroring of the phone display on the screen.
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we use Ubuntu on the atrix with our lapdocks.
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we use Ubuntu on the atrix with our lapdocks.
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Thansk. maybe I need to clarify more.
I only have an Atrix...no DOCK of any sort. I'm not worried about Webtop because i use CM9.
However, I knwo i can use the phone with ubuntu and i want to play around with that.
I know there are a few different types of Docks out there (Standard, HD, Laptop etc), so i need to know which one I can get away with without spending more than i need to! I don't want to have to fork out for the Lapdock if the standrd one will do.
So, whats the cheapest Dock I can get away with?
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Thansk. maybe I need to clarify more.
I only have an Atrix...no DOCK of any sort. I'm not worried about Webtop because i use CM9.
However, I knwo i can use the phone with ubuntu and i want to play around with that.
I know there are a few different types of Docks out there (Standard, HD, Laptop etc), so i need to know which one I can get away with without spending more than i need to! I don't want to have to fork out for the Lapdock if the standrd one will do.
So, whats the cheapest Dock I can get away with?
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they all serve different purposes.
it seems you think all the docks are interchangeable.
and you can only run Ubuntu on the atrix/lapdock combination, I believe.
You can run Ubuntu (or webtop in this context, which is Ubutnu 9.10) with the lapdock and the HD Multimedia dock. You can also run webtop simply with the supplied HDMI cable (which I'm guessing you didn't get either) without any dock but your ROM must support webtop over HDMI. Webtop is only available with Blur roms, not CM7/9
If you are talking about the recent Canonical announcement about Ubuntu on Android, that is simply and updated webtop and made to run on any Android, not just Moto. It is not available to the general public.
There is a another way to run Ubuntu that I've heard works with CM7/9, but it is the type that uses VNC as a viewer and on the phone, not using one of the docks mentioned. I know nothing else about that setup.
Hi guys!
Is there a way to force the RAZR to lapdock mode without the lapdock?
My screen is broken and i need to get some data from my device before i send it to service, because they always do total wipe of the devices, its policy..
If i use the HDMI-cable from the RAZR to a screen i only get the Motorola logo. My tought was that it is possible to emulate a lapdock via the USB port when i have it plugged in my computer.
Is that possible?
Regards
search "nebtop"
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That would only work if my phone is rooted, and if i can access the phone. Right?
The main problem here is that i dont have a screen. So i can not install an use nebtop unless i can force the phone into HDMI-duplicated screen-mode with som nice usb-hack.
Any other suggestions, of is it something with nebtop i have missed?
Regards
Which Android version is installed? The .211 ICS doesn't require any special adapters or docks to go into webtop mode. I got the cheapest thing for Gingerbread, the "travel adapter" that looks like a big usb/hdmi passthrough. Want one cheap?
You could always just find a store with a demo unit and bring a USB stick to save files to.
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My suggestion would be to dump the webtop idea and use ADB. Either enter a shell and copy the entire contents of the flash to a memory card, or use adb to pull it to your computer over usb. If you really must use webtop mode, go plug it into a lapdock in a verizon store that has one on display, and copy everything to a flash drive.
You can use the webtop mode with just hdmi, but you have to be able to tap on the webtop mode popup i believe.
There's probably a more sophisticated way of doing this, but i'm not entirely sure what that might be, good luck with it.
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Which Android version is installed? The .211 ICS doesn't require any special adapters or docks to go into webtop mode. I got the cheapest thing for Gingerbread, the "travel adapter" that looks like a big usb/hdmi passthrough. Want one cheap?
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Beartard is right. If you have ICS, all you need is a HDMI cable. Connect the cable to your miniHDMI port and then to a monitor/tv. You should get a nice tabletUI webtop.
On a side note, your best bet to get your info back would be to use a lapdock100 or 500. Go to your verizon store and ask to test one. The reason being, if your screen is completely busted, you won't be able to use your phone as the input device it needs to navigate webtop.
Hello,
I bought an external keyboard that connects via the mini usb port. It didn't work, but found a suggestion:
When I first connected my adapter that came with my tablet to the keyboard adapter I was very disappointed that nothing happened. I tried several different browser pages, but nothing happened. I read reviews on here and noticed on about that someone mentioned they changed their USB settings and their keyboard finally started working. So, I immediately went to my Settings, Advanced Settings, and then USB BUS MODE and changed it from DEVICE mode to HOST mode and VOILA - the keyboard immediately started functioning
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I tried to find where to change the usb settings to host but couldn't find the area. Is there anywhere I can find this? I am using the AOPK Rom. Thanks for any help!
OTG not in any of the Nook Tablet yet
OTG is not implemented yet on the stock nor current cm10 roms based on what I have asked in this forum for Nook Tablet. I know you can do this with the new nooks that have monochrome display. May I ask where did you read this article?
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Hello,
I bought an external keyboard that connects via the mini usb port. It didn't work, but found a suggestion:
I tried to find where to change the usb settings to host but couldn't find the area. Is there anywhere I can find this? I am using the AOPK Rom. Thanks for any help!
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yep, it was in a review of the product on amazon. here is a link to the product:look at couple reviews down. I am happy to wait just want to make sure that I will be able to use it soon
bulsatar said:
yep, it was in a review of the product on amazon. here is a link to the product:look at couple reviews down. I am happy to wait just want to make sure that I will be able to use it soon
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Were you reading the review for the Nook Color with working usb otg? It does work for that tablet, not the NT though.
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I wasn't looking specifically for how to get it working on the tablet, just looking in general for how to do it in android. Hopefully they implement the otg soon
I just downloaded the new cm10 (snappy and no more reboot/sdcard lost errors!!) but there wasn't anything about the type of usb connection in that one either...
Am I not going to be able to use this keyboard? Will I have to break down and buy a price blue tooth one????
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I just downloaded the new cm10 (snappy and no more reboot/sdcard lost errors!!) but there wasn't anything about the type of usb connection in that one either...
Am I not going to be able to use this keyboard? Will I have to break down and buy a price blue tooth one????
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At this time the NT does not have usb otg on any ROM, it may in the future, but if and when is not known at this time. The NT will never have bluetooth, Never. It has been well documented why, do a search and read. So a BT keyboard will never work. Is it really that hard to type with your thumbs?
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It isn't really a matter of difficulty, it is a matter of duration. I didn't want a full laptop and I like the android os so wanted to try a tablet with a keyboard for my mobile computing needs. I am do a good amount of typing (chapters for novels and such) and prefer a keyboard. I was using my phone before and it was a lot slower than what I can do with a keyboard and got tiring after an hour or so. It isn't detrimental that I can't use a keyboard, just desired.
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It isn't really a matter of difficulty, it is a matter of duration. I didn't want a full laptop and I like the android os so wanted to try a tablet with a keyboard for my mobile computing needs. I am do a good amount of typing (chapters for novels and such) and prefer a keyboard. I was using my phone before and it was a lot slower than what I can do with a keyboard and got tiring after an hour or so. It isn't detrimental that I can't use a keyboard, just desired.
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I bought a Toshiba Thrive 32gb off craigslist for $200. I am now running CM10. I bought it for those exact reasons. It has full sized usb, full sized hdmi, micro usb, full sized sd card expandable to 128 gb, bluetooth capable, gps, 10.1" screen. I use a mouse through usb, bluetooth keyboard, and I hook it up to my TV or
computer monitor and is performs really well as a portable computer with little cost involved.
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lol, after spending 150 on the tablet I think that I am going to skip buying another, however I have started looking at other virtual keyboard options and will be trying out a few to see if they can fill the gap until/if they activate the usb otg. Thanks for the info and I will reply if I find a keyboard that I like enough to be useable as a touch typer!!