[Q] Lapdock yes or no? - Atrix 4G Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello all
I have my Atrix for about 3 months now, and from the beginning was thinking on buying the lapdock aswell but held myself due to its over expensive price (500$ for a damn docking!!!). Personally I don't see any reason to buy a docking for just 1 device in over 150$.
I've got now a chance to buy a semi-used one for 210$ (with a spare charger) and I wanted some consolt about it:
1) Is it possible to write office docs such as word and excell on it?
2) Is it possible to connect USB storage devices to it?
Since my primery uses for it will be as a working tool for docs writing (Thesis, reports and stuff), that can replace my aging laptop and instead of buying a notebook. will it be enough for my uses?
Can I use a Ubuntu hack to make it work as a Linux laptop?
Does it worth the 210$? or should I remain assertive on my "not over 150$" policy?
Much 10xs for all

I have had mine for a month now and in my opinion is OK but very limited. First there is the WIFI only unless you get the tethering plan or can get the hack to work (I have not yet got it to work). I use mine for remotely connecting to my Windows server but use a paid app Pocketcloud which works fine with the full screen mode on the lapdock although sizing the screen is sometimes a problem.
In answer to your questions:
1 If there is an app for Office docs which there is the answer is Yes but all the lapdock is really is a large screen for your phone, if you can do it on the phone you can do it on the lapdock.
2. I believe you can but it needs a hack
In my opinion it is not really yet a substitute for a laptop but if the hacks for Ubantu, tethering, etc are refined it may be in time but it in all honesty does not appear the be there yet.
As far as price, probably worth $200.00 to me to throw in the car so that I have a larger screen to log into my server when I am on the road etc without wireless, but that is a decision you would have to make.

You can buy it cheaper online, refurbished. It comes in very good working condition. My first one had a dead pixel, but AT&T let me bring it in and they gave me a new refurb'd.
They're 175 + tax online.
It says that flash drives and mice are supported. But I'm not sure. Haven't tried.
There's also a Google Docs app if you don't want to mod your WebTop. You can get OpenOffice if you use WebTop2SD, or the Debian mod.

Hey
first 10x to you both
Second, did I understand you correct? in webtop mod I cant use 3G? whats the point then? shouldnt it supposed to be a "laptop" with all the capabilities of the Atrix?
anyway, Sinful, can you give me a link for this price?
Another question, Does anyone knows if there are 10 intch screens with HDMI inlet? It ca be a cheap replacement for the lapdock....

You CAN connect with 3G with the regular phone interface which can be full screen on the lapdock. What you cannot do without the ATT tethering plan is to use the "full" Firefox browser on the lapdock.
For the most part it works fine just using the phone interface with the phone's browser in full screen mode.

I bought a refurb from lapdock from att and have been pleased with it. I have done the debian hack and the tethering hack to get firefox to work with my data plan. In reguards to your second question, I have hooked up external usb drives without problem. It gets mounted just fine and I am able to copy files without problem. Open Office also works well.

O.K
Thanks for the clarification.
Thats quite ****ty! Why would they do that?
Anyhow, since i'm not an AT&T costumer, I obviesly dont have the 'AT&T tethering program', so I guess it will be problematic for me to use the 3G.
I dont see what the use of the lapdock if I cant use my 3G, and I really dont want to use the phone browser in full mode to be able to do so.
Well, we will have to wait for the 2.3.4 official AT&T rom, and maybe they will enable this, or just wait for a skillful dev that will do that...

Which tethering hack did you use? I could not get mine to work. Thanks

AT&T thinks that using an external display of ANY form is considered tethering, even though its technically the same "computing device", just the output/input being redirected. I had a major "phone fight" with AT&Ts support, and am in talks with my lawyer if this actually enforceable. But yes, if you want to use the standard 3G web connectivity on your webtop's Firefox browser, AT&T requires you to get the 45 USD dataplan.
Alternatively you can try FIREFOX from the app market, and run it "fullscreen" through your Android GUI-"window".
As for office application that does Microsoft's office 2010 documents, I swear by QUICK OFFICE PRO. It does excel, word, PowerPoint and adobe PDF to create/edit.
I use my ATRIX as a semi desktop on the go, via Bluetooth keyboard and the ATRIX plugged into any TV or monitor that has a DVI (with HDMI-2-DVI adapter) or HDMI jack, and use the ATRIX itself as a mouse, since the touchscreen turns into a laptop-style -mousepad
There are mods out there to run an (almost) full Ubuntu, but last time I checked they had massive storage constraints trying to make it work all the way. Not sure if they overcome them by now.
But since the bootlaoder can be now unlocked, we probably will see soon some cool ROMS that allow us to use the ATRIX in a full Ubuntu environment.
Just hoping :-D
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I have been using my atrix to do my general doc file typings. So far I am happy.
here are some stuff that you may need to know:
1. you can use an external drive as long as it is formatted FAT32.
2. you can use a cable mouse
3. look under development section and look up debian and ubuntu images for webtop. I found debian more reliable but ubuntu solution has more flexibility.
Using either solution you can install koffice or openoffice for your typing needs. If you simply want to type in text and do the formatting at a later time look up the "easy_v0.2.5-signed.zip" under debian solution. It will give you a on screen window for typing similar to notepad which is pretty nice.
There is also the webtop2sd project that is in beta. I suggest for it to come out of beta as it is not ready for general public yet.

I owned one , had hacked 3g tethering working and my opinion is NO not worth it unless you can get for 100-150 then its just OK

No. Id wait to see if there is any official webtop improvements....out of the box there is very little funvtionality.
Also, moto has said that there will be more accesories, and they have filed for a Tabdock....which may be much better if its basicly a xoom transformer. I think they released the lapdock first more as a webtop beta and to not have a tabdock compete with their zoom.
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Ive got one, and the usb drive works fine, and i have a wireless mouse that seems to work just fine, it does what ever your phone does, and stores it on your phone, so... if you consider your phone your primary computer then this is for you.... i will be trading mine in on a laptop or at the very least a net book of some kind that will allow me to use financial software and other windows/mac essential software...
its a neat idea, but at this stage its gimmicky at best.
vonh

Sorry to dig this thread up, but I just got my Lapdock and in the last month it has matured a bit more, with lots of hacks to install several Linux distros allowing to install native Linux apps to the environment.
So far, I'm very pleased and glad to leave the 15.4" laptop at home.
This is what I use my Lapdock for:
1. Remote into my job Servers and Workstations through LogMeIn. I still don't jump into Cytrix yet.
2. Browse the web natively through full Firefox for research and entertainment.
3. Remotely manage my home's NAS
4. Download, display an manage files (.RAR, .ZIP, .APK, .DOC, .PPS, .XLS, .PDF, etc)
5. A few games here and there (like AngryBirds) but honestly, I prefer to play them on the phone itself due to multitouch.
6. I manage several personal and business websites and portals, and I can pretty much do all I need to accomplish this. (FTP, Edit, Upload, Download, Code, etc)
What's lacking on the Lapdock:
1. No front Webcam (no way to answer a video call from Google Voice, Skype, etc)
2. No fron Microphone (I constantly find myself yelling so people on the other side of the line can hear me, I now use a wired headset. Maybe a BT headset would be more comfortable though.)
3. No way to input international accented characters (I hope to find a way to hack a way to implement this.)
4. No accelerated video under Webtop?
My conclusion:
For me, I think that overall it's a great complement to my Atrix as long as you don't pay more than $200 for it.
Cheers!
Rayan

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touch pro as a modem/pdaNet usage

What is the most effective way to use the pro as a modem? I have downloaded PdaNet and it works flawlessly but wonder if it is the most efficient means from a speed stand point. Also when I downloaded it did not say it was a demo but I see an option to buy and register which wants an e-mail and a serial but the program seems to work fine. I wonder for how long?
PDANet Demo is good for 14 days if I remember correctly. For me it's been great and I ended up buying it. I think you would see the best speeds tethered to the phone via USB than via WiFi or Bluetooth.
Hi,
With PDANet, would ATT know that you were tethering? Is there any way that they can recognize data transfering from the computer through the phone?
Thanks in advance
I haven't had an issue. I used to tether my motorola Q on verizon without paying for their extra 'tethering' option. I would only use it while traveling so I never had a high data usage for the month.
PDANet slows you down. For sure.
ICS is the best for tethering IMO, it doesn't cripple your speeds.
check out this thread I made http://sprintusers.com/forum/showthread.php?t=174517
will confirm that ICS is way faster...
for verizoners check this out http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=47075
works great and don't have to worry about activesync
*using it right now to post
What about WMwifirouter ?
http://freewareppc.com/communication/wmwifirouter.shtml
The freeware version works perfectly with the ancient mogul.
Usage:
WMWifiRouter is very simple to operate (if everything goes well). After installation just start the program, press "Connect", wait until the screen gives you a fully green icon and then you can connect your other WiFi-enabled devices to the "WMWifiRouter" network. Once you are connected, for most devices you can just press the power button to turn off the screen and other power using components of your device, while it remains functional as a WiFi router.
NOTICE: If you have a Titan / Mogul or other device that has a hardware WiFi switch, turn this to the on position before starting WMWifiRouter.
NOTICE: Obviously, using WMWifiRouter to tether over WiFi uses your phone's data connection, so you should make sure you have good data plan, or you will be charged extra!
I have used all 3 options. Pda net is simple you don't need to hack reg. It is slower. ICS for most you have to do hack or pay extra is faster no other software to buy pdanet is like 20 buck i think. There are pirate copies but is not so expensive good to support developers. I currently use wmwifireouter it is also fast you still have to do the hack cost is 30 bucks us. With this one you need to plug it in somewhere to keep battery charged it does allow multiple phones. Is customizable now works like a charm but you do want to open keyboard for cooling. I use sprint and have never been charged for tethering with any of these options. In my opinion you have more flexability with wmwifirouter than with the others.

WMWiFi Router And Sprint Touch Pro

Simply asked, will WMWifirouter work on the Sprint's Touch Pro? Or will it at least work as well on there as it does on my Mogul? (in that it will allow me to use the "Sprint PCS" as a teathering option instead of getting sprint's phone as modem service.)
I took a different route: Tether via USB cable which takes a lot less battery power to do than running WiFi. Yeah, cables are "old school" but they can be more practical at times.
Anyway, I can now tether my Sprint Touch Pro via a USB cable and do Internet sharing without subscribing to the "Phone as Modem" service. If you're interested in how I did that, visit THIS THREAD.
Pete
wmwifi router
Short answer yes it works. Longer answer it works but you still have to do the ics hack first. There is a new version out there if you register it lets you do more things. It can work with the cable as well. The cost for the liscences version is 30 dollars us. It is worth it the old free version is also still out there. They both work I have used them. Tho the old version did seem to have some problems. Not sure if it was the phone or vista causing the problems tho.
I can confirm that the lastest version 1.25 works perfectly on the Sprint Touch Pro. It does allow you to choose "Sprint" as the network instead of "Phone As Modem". Also, with the latest version, there is no need to do the ICS hack. Just install, follow the prompts, and everything needed is setup for you.
I hope that helps!
So you said you got it to work without doing the ics hack? Their website says you must a working ICS and sprint by default turns that off. I have noticed I can't get ICS to work thru usb anymore since I installed it. any way the important thing is it does work. 15 day free trial in fact they request you test with the free trial before you can buy.
Let me add that though the latest version of WiFiRouter DOES indeed work perfectly with my TP and ANY computer with WiFi capability there is one drawback. After about 45 minutes of use, the TP is almost scorching hot on the backside. I limit my usage to make sure I'm not going to fry any of the internal components on the phone. Just my two cents.
WMWifiRouter is a great program. It works great for almost all of the computers that I have that I would want to have connected to the internet when I am on the road
EXCEPT
my lenovo laptop. it will not see the network created by wmwifirouter, no matter what I do.
wmwifirouter can only set up ad-hoc connections, and not infrastructure connections.
so make sure to test it out before you go and buy a licensem just to find out that you can't use it with your primary laptop
opening the keyboard and setting up so it is kind of sitting up helps it stay cool. It also has a temp reading in the program if it gets to hot it shuts down the connection anyway. I also cheat and hook up to my playstation 3 using their standard cable for the remotes and it charges my phone while it getting me online.
To combat the heat I made a "cold box" out of a small (5"x5")square shipping box and an old computer fan. I just set the phone inside it with the back removed and faced down so the bottom faces the fan. It never over heats.
I use a similar method to the cld box..a small desk fan with the back cover off and the TP stays cool

Bluetooth function on Éclair ?

what are the odds that in the new version of android , the issue with bluetooth file transfer will be fixed ?
doubt it, i dont think its a bug but more a compagny policy.
they dont want you to send apps and games to oher phones
i think we have a better chance with the xda community here for developing/porting a proper bluetooth stack to our hero` s
there is a lot more you can do with a proper bluetooth stack than sending files, you know. so i doubt this is a company policy thing but rather a BIG failure to deliver what has been standard in mobile devices for years now. (especially for handsets in this price range)
coming from the iphone, i learned that all the "BT is necessary" chants were a bit overrated; I didn't know it was not possible until way after I upgraded to the 3G. I never used it or saw the need for it.
In the beginning BT filetransfer was 'cool'; "wow I can send a picture! or a MP3 !!"
But now I would just email it, even if the person is standing next to me.
A2DP I can understand. But all other functions like "cool! I can use my phone as a mouse for my computer!!" for me got old 4/5 years ago.
Still, if people want it, you could just write a program, no?
No, obviously it is not possible to "just write a program" if there is no API for Bluetooth file transfer and there is no information on how to do it without an API.
There are now several programs that can do BT file transfer on other Android phones, but none of them work on the Hero.
And you can use only mail if the receiver can also use mail. My BT carkit certainly can't use mail.
elmicha said:
No, obviously it is not possible to "just write a program" if there is no API for Bluetooth file transfer and there is no information on how to do it without an API.
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Well, almost true.
There's an app in the market called "Bluetooth File Transfer" which allows you to send and receive files by Bluetooth and doesn't require a rooted phone.
Sounds great, but.... (yes there's a but!)
You can only receive files being sent from another Android user via "Bluetooth File Transfer"
See http://www.medieval.it/content/view/61/85/
Regards,
Dave
Does it work on your Hero? It doesn't on mine (GSM Hero). The market description still says "Currently, doesn't work on HTC Hero and Samsung Galaxy, but we are working on it." (http://www.cyrket.com/package/it.medieval.blueftp)
Same problem with Androbex: "Reported not to work on HTC Hero and Samsung Galaxy. you can try yourself and tell us."
As far as I know, neither the Hero kernel nor a Hero image for the emulator is available at this time, so it is a lot more complicated to develop such things which are not covered by the API.
foxmeister said:
Well, almost true.
There's an app in the market called "Bluetooth File Transfer" which allows you to send and receive files by Bluetooth and doesn't require a rooted phone.
Sounds great, but.... (yes there's a but!)
You can only receive files being sent from another Android user via "Bluetooth File Transfer"
See http://www.medieval.it/content/view/61/85/
Regards,
Dave
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I have another but on this. It doesn't just have to be to another Android phone, I can easily send to my Sony Ericson & LG & Moto friend's phones.
Although I'm on a rooted G1, so take that with a grain of salt.
However you are right about not working on a Hero.
Geniusdog254 said:
I have another but on this. It doesn't just have to be to another Android phone, I can easily send to my Sony Ericson & LG & Moto friend's phones.
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As I said, it says that you can only *receive* files from another user of this software. I always presumed that sending would be ok!
However you are right about not working on a Hero.
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I installed it on my Hero, and it seems to run ok (i.e. no obvious errors) but as soon as I saw that I can only receive from another phone running this software, I dismissed it. I seldom use BT file transfer anyway, and this restriction would've made it pointless for the limited occasions that I might use it.
I will give it a try today though, and see what happens, but I'm also on a rooted device so this may make a difference.
Regards,
Dave
Ok, when I start the application it tells me that is has successfully started the "Bluetooth file receiving" and "Bluetooth file sharing" service.
However, I tried to pair with my laptop and I got an error message that it couldn't start the OBEX FTP service. So, it looks like it doesn't work at all for devices not running their software. I do wonder though if it would work between two devices running the software simply because it looks like they don't use OBEX FTP.
Regards,
Dave
maybe someone can make a wifi based peer to peer app FTP orso
at least then we can send stuff
I think dismissing it as simply being 'cool', is incorrect.
I know alot of people that arn't 'smartphone' savvy and don't have email accounts that they use on the phone or have internet access on the phone for that matter. They tend to use the phones mostly for (shock horror) making call and taking pics etc.
There have been several instances when they like a picture/video clip or something and want to send/receive via bluetooth.
They are somewhat surprised when I say I can't do that, especially after I've shown them all the other clever things I can do on the phone...
Zuber
Bluetooth
Begin rant:
I know everyone keeps saying you should sync your entire life with Google's servers (as that’s the point of having an Internet device) but there are times when a quick sync with Outlook (or another client) is desirable just to back-up your contacts or to grab a file/contact through the use of Bluetooth. Hell, that’s what the technology was created for!
Yes, I know everything is online with Android, but using BT to sync is something I took for granted with my Win Mobiles and Symbian devices. With me it’s a privacy issue, I don't want my entire life to be blasted off into the ether, transmitted across the globe, stored on a sever (in a country for which server security may not be a top priority i.e. Korea) and back again just to ensure my phone calendar is up-to-date with my computer's calendar.
From my phone in my pocket to the computer sitting less than a foot away on my desk, Bluetooth seems the best solution.
Yes, there's USB but that means plugging in a cable...
End Rant.
If you have a WiFi router (or access point) it's possible to use an ftp server on the hero and an ftp client on the desktop (or vice versa). See FTPServer and SwiFTP Server for ftp servers.
I didn't try aFileSync yet, but from the description it looks nice.
But this doesn't help if you don't have a WiFi router avaliable, although WiFi ad-hoc mode might be possible with android-wifi-tether on rooted phones. And Wifi ad-hoc mode doesn't help if the other end has only Bluetooth.
agent-5 said:
From my phone in my pocket to the computer sitting less than a foot away on my desk, Bluetooth seems the best solution.
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To be honest, it's probably partially Apples fault as it took them ages to get something half resembling Bluetooth into their iPhones. Given the take up of the iPhone, it does go to show that much of the market can just live without it.
Googles "excuse", way back more than a year ago, was that they hadn't quite finalized the API and so they shipped the G1 with only support for headsets. Skip forward a year, and they've only only added a couple more profiles to their bluetooth stack, which is pretty poor going for a multi-bazillion dollar organization!
Regards,
Dave
foxmeister said:
To be honest, it's probably partially Apples fault as it took them ages to get something half resembling Bluetooth into their iPhones. Given the take up of the iPhone, it does go to show that much of the market can just live without it.
Googles "excuse", way back more than a year ago, was that they hadn't quite finalized the API and so they shipped the G1 with only support for headsets. Skip forward a year, and they've only only added a couple more profiles to their bluetooth stack, which is pretty poor going for a multi-bazillion dollar organization!
Regards,
Dave
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True, I know its a feature that (some) of us expect but at the end of the day the Android OS is still in its infancy. Give me Android over Symbian (which I've been using for the last couple of years) any day!
It would be nice to see things like OBEX implemented into the OS (perhaps in a future release?). But for all the small picky things that its missing, Android makes up for its 'downfalls' in a million other ways. I certainly would not switch now, I just hope that Google, HTC and all the freelance Dev's keep up their amazing work.
One final word: I'd still like to Sync with Bluetooth though!
This is not just a cool feature, it is an expected feature. To have a smartphone released without that is ridiculous, in this day and age. Unlike Apple, who have ideological reasons why they dont want it, I dont believe that Google have any reason; it is just a massive slip up, probably because they werent thinking globally.
It is the most starred/wanted issue in the Android bug/development list, higher than anything else which shows that it is pretty important to tech- savvy users as well as the average joe who takes it for granted.
People simply expect this standard functionality to be there. I never fail to be embarrassed when someone asks me to bluetooth a photo to their crappy Nokia and I admit I cannot.
I could on my Jam, I could on my Touch, I could on my Diamond, but I cant on my Hero. Pathetic.
bluetooth obex on donut 1.6
hey i have been looking all over for an up to date blog on android obex development. I notice many of you guys are complaining about not having the capability. Look up Medieval software app that is freeware in the Android Market, and also have a webpage. I have used them for windows mobile. I have seen sites where people have created their own stacks and have directions to help you. I would be interested on learning how to actually do this. I know cupcake had a directory and stack for this. I would like to know if any of you know anything for the donut build. Every time I connect to my pc from medieval via my G1, i get this error "Service not found, you can't connect with target device because it lacks of the obex ftp bluetooth service"....oddly however when i linked up this app it allowed a stack to become visible underneath the vista bluetooth properties on the G1 device. it had handset and file transfer which i selected because it wasnt. Actually as im writing this i just checked again to verify the name and now i have another one! Object push! wow. so i will keep you posted. going to try harder. i think this program will work. thanks
Idea
Correct me if I'm wrong but seeing as the Blueooth standard is open and Android is opensource, how much time/effort/cost would it involve in a 3rd party dev like MoDaCo/Cyanogen implementing additional protocols into the BT stack?
A custom ROM with this feature would be an instant hit. I'd make a donation to anyone developing such a feature.
agent-5 said:
Correct me if I'm wrong but seeing as the Blueooth standard is open and Android is opensource, how much time/effort/cost would it involve in a 3rd party dev like MoDaCo/Cyanogen implementing additional protocols into the BT stack?
A custom ROM with this feature would be an instant hit. I'd make a donation to anyone developing such a feature.
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Well, it can totally be done. Im pretty sure people have made steps to do this and some 1.5 cupcake roms had support. There is many BT stacks out there and are dependent on the more primitive driver, known as the API. The Kernel is the base framework which is chosen for these Roms. Most rom developers like Cyanogen pick a certain one to fulfill an obligation, ex speed, Hero, experimiental. From what I get on here is that many of the top rom developers dont care much about BT and alot of people are waiting for BT 3.0. So in short i behind what you stated and maybe we could start a donation fund towards a developer that would be willing. Maybe theres already someone out there even! Alot is changing with Android, its exploding.

my Streak. Impressions and questions (software)

Hello everyone,
just got my brand new shiny Streak. And man its something. Basically, everything I ever wanted from and now looking back at all the phones I had and other phones on the market I can`t keep wondering why in gods name would someone buy something else other than a 5" phone. 4-4.3" is good but 5" is just perfect.
So I made this upgrade from an Xperia X1 and never do I want to see WinMo in my life. But right now I have an ... android rush lol. Lots of info, apps, games. Its like an overload to try and understand everything and get use to everything. In a good way.
My first issue was with the car charger. Dell charges a lot as you already know. But I found an universal car charger for 7 pounds, that outputs 5V and 1A and i`m using the data cable to charge the phone in my car. No need for a holder just yet.
The pouch is good, but definately needs a proper case as its getting annoying sometimes to take it out all the time.
Got a few questions, regarding apps and games and such, if anyone here has more experience with android than me...
1. I`m planning to buy this (http://www.zagg.com/invisibleshield...es-screen-protectors-covers-skins-shields.php) . Will it affect the screen brightness in any way ?
2. Currently using GoNews as my newsreader but I`m looking for a good working one that also has to option to search a website for RSS feed. The one i`m using at the moment gives me the option to import from a file or input the whole adress manually.
3. Gaming wise, I dont mind paying for games. And the ones i`d pay for would be a good RPG and an RTS. Currently thinking about buying ZENONIA, but I can`t seem to find any RTS games out there (StarCraft, Age of Empires, Command and Conquer). Not those games, but they are examples of gameplay i`m looking for.
4. Also looking for a game that works on Streak similar to Worms world party. Could have tanks or other things, but should work lol. Tried something Armored Lite or whatevr the name was but the graphics war very buggy and made gaming pretty impossible.
5. Dialer. Can it be changed ?
6. Email client. BEfore getting the phone, i was reading reviews and stuff. People said the email client sucked. At first I thought it was ok but god I was wrong. Can`t do anything besides reading the email. Could anyone recommend a better email client ?
7. How do I make it stop turning the display on and off while on a phonecall ?
8. What benefits would I have if I root it ? Not an android expert and not sure if I should give it a try or not.
9. 3g or Wi-Fi videochat. Are there any apps that do this ?
10. Last but not least hehe Navigation. Basically I think its great and considering I spend A LOT of time in my car and using a TomTom, I was thinking of replacing my satnav with my Streak. BUT, is the navigation software dependent on internet connection and gps ? As far as I saw, if my internet connection drops the navigation looses the map or something. Is there any android navigation app that is GPS only. Giving the 16 GB memory, I don`t mind downloading maps and such.
Thanks
I may not be able to answer all your questions, but i will do my best
1) No, it shouldn't affect the brightness much (maybe slightly). I've never owned an invisible shield, but i've heard very good things about them. The 'feel' of the screen will change, however.
2) Not sure, sorry
3) There are not that many good android games out there at the moment (not that look good on the streak at least). I'm not a big gamer though, so i can't really answer this question well
4) as above
5) Of course! there are numerous 3rd party diallers out there. Or, you can pull the dialler application from your phone and change the images if you want (requires root)
6) There's a nice e-mail client in the market called K9. It works perfectly.
7) The display only turns itself off when the sensor is covered (when you hold the phone to your ear), i believe that otherwise the screen stays active. If it does not, you can always change the 'screen time-out' in settings to 'Never Timeout'.
8) Rooting allows you to modify the system files. This means, like mentioned above, you can pull applications from your phone and modify the images. This means you can create and apply themes. You can also overclock your phones processor (not been done yet on this phone i don't think). There are countless other things you can do. Here's a good list- http://android-dls.com/wiki/index.php?title=Why_Root
9) There aren't many video call apps, but if you search 'Movicha' in the market place there is an app called 'Live Mobile Video Chat' which apparently does the job. (no idea if it works on the streak though)
10) Good question, never really thought about this before. I've found a good (and more importantly, free!) app though, called 'TrekBuddy'. You download the maps prior to your journey and then it allows offline navigation. Not sure how well it works, but it's the best i can do!
Hope this helps!
Thanks a lot. Still reading tons of android forums and websites.
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
fards said:
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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Yes that is true and if you know where to look there is a not so legal one out there
I have the Invisible Shield and it works like a charm. No brightness effects at all. The only thing is that the shield for the back left and right is not cut very well, but the front ones and battery cover is great.
Sent from my Dell Streak using XDA App
fards said:
If you're uk then copilot is the best android compatible sat nav app
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agreed. copilot is very good, it almost pains me to say that considering how god awful it preformed on my G1 but on the streak its fantastic. little extra power goes along way

Reverse Tethering on T-820 (Option not available)

I want to be able to plug my new Galaxy Tab S3 (T-820) into my desktop computer or laptop via the USB C cable and not just move files back and forth, (which works fine), but ALSO have access to my desktop's internet connection through USB. I don't want to use WiFi.
I have an Ethernet to USB C dongle, which works fine, but it doesn't allow me to share files or charge my tablet. I'd like to be able to do all three at the same time.
In many of the "How To" articles out there where "Reverse Tethering" is described, they helpfully list the various buttons and widgets to click in order to enable this feature. However the authors always refer to menu items and buttons which don't appear under my tablet's settings. They're not just greyed out. They're simply absent. So that doesn't work.
Neither do any of the various apps on the Google Play Store and elsewhere which promise to provide reverse tethering. They just don't work.
SO...
Being new to the Android (and the smartphone) universe, I did a ton of homework and have so far figured out how to...
Root my tablet. (Done!)
Wade through the swamp of TWRP, ODIN, etc., while tripping spectacularly over the various speed bumps and permission walls provided by the likes of Samsung and Google's paranoid anti-theft (and it would seem from my use case, their anti-happiness) feature set.
Successfully install different flavors of Android.
Install both Magisk and Xposed and try their tethering unlockers with negative results.
After a week of little sleep, I've managed to get through all of this torturous nonsense and amaze myself by not having bricked or totally spoiled my tablet. It still functions! After all the warranty-voiding BS I've crammed through it, I'm feeling quite lucky.
However... I still don't have the ability to tether/reverse tether!
I've learned a lot, but I still feel mostly like a dazed and confused script kiddie (remember when 'script kiddie' was a term? Well for me, it still applies nicely.) I'm trying my level best, but various elements of this whole exercise remain opaque. This is my first post in any forum asking for advice because I finally hit the outer bounds of my DIY energies and pride.
So, if you will indulge my humble request, what I want to know is...
1. Is my tablet even capable on a hardware level of performing a reverse tether, or has the manufacturer locked that feature out so that even a ROM which promises to turn it on will fail to do so?
AND...
2. If it IS possible for a ROM to turn on the tether/reverse tether feature, which one is it and where can I find it?
2a. If there is another solution.., what is it?
I'm currently on...
Android Version 8.0.0
Samsung Experience version 9.0
Kernel Version 3.18.71-13482624
Build Number R16NW.T820XXU1BRE2
I bought this unit off Amazon; it was a refurb and I didn't get it through some cellular provider nor do I have a phone plan. I don't know where this tablet originally came from, but it was all new, sealed and shiny in the box when I got it.
Thanks!
I can appreciate losing a week of sleep. But I don't understand why you need to reverse tether. Enable WiFi and there you go. I think the last time I needed to tether a device through my laptop's internet connection would have been the 1990s.
FWIW the USB-C connector on the TAB S3 is different because if you want to drive an HDMI monitor you need a DisplayLink chip enabled dongle and DisplayLink Presenter app running on the Tab S3. Whereas on my TAB S4 I can just plug any regular old USB-C -> HDMI dongle and display on the monitor. So odds are trying to get reverse tethering working on the Tab S3 is going to be an exercise in futility.
Hi there, you still looking for reverse tethering for android? i found & use this for a while... you can check github link here : https://github.com/Genymobile/gnirehtet
working well on my S3.
Holy cow, it works!
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Hi there, you still looking for reverse tethering for android? i found & use this for a while... you can check github link here : (link)
working well on my S3.
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What...? It worked?! Thank-you!
It's hard to believe how much effort and research I'd put into this, how many promising fixes I tried and which failed. In truth I'd given up weeks ago and found myself scornfully looking at the expensive tablet by my desk, wondering if I should hang on to it for its limited uses or sell it on eBay.
Thanks for posting! I can now do what I wanted with this machine.
For others, just follow the directions on the github link provided in the previous post.
I just scrolling around to find fixes for wifi issue - it connect & reconnect every times when on my office connection. Since me unable to use wifi, i try to find the work around using LAN connection. Then i found that.
Happy i can help others. Cheers mate.

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