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I don't think best buy would even noticed if I return a rooted phone as long as the rom is as close stock as I can get. Any opinions?
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slinky1914 said:
I don't think best buy would even noticed if I return a rooted phone as long as the rom is as close stock as I can get. Any opinions?
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theres no guarantees but you are correct they probably wont notice that it doesn't work. What they will be looking for is if the phone works, water damage indicator and physical damage. They will probably once over the phone then return it as long as you are within your proper return period.
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theres no guarantees but you are correct they probably wont notice that it doesn't work. What they will be looking for is if the phone works, water damage indicator and physical damage. They will probably once over the phone then return it as long as you are within your proper return period.
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That's what I'm thinking. It works it just won't have as much bloatware on it. There just gonna resell it anyway. I tried to restore the nandroid of the original rom but once restored it gets stuck at the first samasung splash screen.
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slinky1914 said:
That's what I'm thinking. It works it just won't have as much bloatware on it. There just gonna resell it anyway. I tried to restore the nandroid of the original rom but once restored it gets stuck at the first samasung splash screen.
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Well with all returns what they do is send it back to Tmobile they will send it to Samsung and get turn into a refurbish unit (for exchanges and such) They will flash the OEM Rom back on it.
Flash stock using Odin? It brings the phone unrooted and all the bloatware back
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Flash stock using Odin? It brings the phone unrooted and all the bloatware back
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No I haven't yet. Seems like a lot of work if they are gonna do it anyway. And some people have had some issues.
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If you flash back via ODIN make sure the three button recovery works because if ODIN crashes mid-way (I've had this happen twice on my previous Vibrant) you've got a brick if you can't get it back into download mode via the buttons. Do a forum search. Or maybe if you wound up with the dreaded black screen of death that wouldn't be such a bad thing. They'd almost have to take it back then.
i just returned one the other day to best buy and the chick went through the phone for a couple of minutes, checked settings and menus and then also checked for physical damage. i had reflashed it back to stock anyways as bell's version comes with a bunch of specific apps. i was glad i did flash it back and i also relocked it to bell's network as i had unlocked it for use on rogers
hondaguy said:
i just returned one the other day to best buy and the chick went through the phone for a couple of minutes, checked settings and menus and then also checked for physical damage. i had reflashed it back to stock anyways as bell's version comes with a bunch of specific apps. i was glad i did flash it back and i also relocked it to bell's network as i had unlocked it for use on rogers
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It is true every once in a while you will get a rep who knows their stuff (when i worked at t-mobile i would play with customers who had flashed new ROMs on their G1 ) However most of the time you will get minim wage joe blow and he could give a rats ass.
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It is true every once in a while you will get a rep who knows their stuff (when i worked at t-mobile i would play with customers who had flashed new ROMs on their G1 ) However most of the time you will get minim wage joe blow and he could give a rats ass.
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true, true
slinky1914 said:
No I haven't yet. Seems like a lot of work if they are gonna do it anyway. And some people have had some issues.
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It really isn't.. its better to be safe than sorry. At least thats how I feel.
And as far as that phone -- pc logo, I guess they would take it back but if they ask you how did it get that way? you're going to have to lie about it and its just going to feel really awkward.
Truthfully though, all they'd have to be trained to do is not accept returns if you see the superuser app. That'd be the easiest way to see if someone has rooted their phone & If you're not even going to take the effort to flash it back to stock, you're probably not going to delete that app either.
Just re-Odin it & call it a day. It took me less than 5 minutes to get back to stock & maybe another 5 to download the necessary files.
This will also ensure that you don't have any leftover contacts or log ins to facebook or anything like that on there (better safe than sorry).
Thanks guys. I was using my slide for the last couple of days by picked the vibrant back up and fell back in love. If I do decide to return it I'll put it back on stock. Thanks again guys.
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i dont think they care
just aslong as it lokks in good shape
but sometimes you get that one derp that feels the he/she needs to look through it
Why don't u install one clig lag fix from market and unroot it? Should be easy.
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nguyenmd said:
Why don't u install one clig lag fix from market and unroot it? Should be easy.
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What about installing the Galaxysrooter from the app market then unrooting it with this app?
Im a little new at all this so please excuse me if i sound dumb. Cant you just flash a nandroid backup and then undo root also?
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Im a little new at all this so please excuse me if i sound dumb. Cant you just flash a nandroid backup and then undo root also?
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Yup, that'll work as well. Or you could download a nandroid that is stock without root.
i got my vibrant the day it came out, from costco... $99
Swapped it a week later, Couldn't unroot it for some reason, but they didn't notice... then again it was costco
They won't care trust me i worked for tmo. These people don't even know what root is they might think its a plant. They just scan it out of their inventory and send it to samsung. If it has root on it they are not going to send it back to tmo just to find u or look to charge your account. That is soooooo tedious cuz u have to do an IMEI search which hardly works on TMOs internal network (i tried when i worked with them never really worked) so yea all they look for is hardware damage and the liquid damage indicator other then that ur golden.
So I've been having problems with my phone, got a warranty replacement phone delivered yesterday. Got so excited that I forgot that I would need to do an OTA update on the old phone to get it back to stock, so maybe they wouldn't notice it had been rooted. Can they tell if had been rooted, even if its taken back to the original state? I can't seem to find Unaltered Froyo Odin tar files anywhere. I really don't know what to do anymore, I feel like I've searched everywhere.
just odin DL09 or DI01 and ota update from there... might take a little time but it'll be legit
That was the original plan, I guess my day was kind of chaotic. In the midst of things I already activated the new phone... So it won't let the old one get the ota. I think I really screwed up
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So I've been having problems with my phone, got a warranty replacement phone delivered yesterday. Got so excited that I forgot that I would need to do an OTA update on the old phone to get it back to stock, so maybe they wouldn't notice it had been rooted. Can they tell if had been rooted, even if its taken back to the original state? I can't seem to find Unaltered Froyo Odin tar files anywhere. I really don't know what to do anymore, I feel like I've searched everywhere.
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Luckily I'm on verizon & was able to go on and do a line swap quick. Whew dodged a bullet!
Actually all my replacements I've just done the dl09 and sent it back.
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Avelnan said:
Actually all my replacements I've just done the dl09 and sent it back.
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ok so i was running SH 3.9.1 and decided to go back to stock so i odined back to jfd and then tried to update with kies and now my phone will not even turn on anyone have any clue on what i need to do or if there is anything i can do
a)did you flash gingerbread bootloaders? If you so and you didn't flash back the froyo bootloaders before using keis your probally f***** up your phone. Need a jtag
b)if you didn't flash any bootloaders just call tmobile and tell them keis f***ed up your phone
c)you could just lie to tmobile and tell them keis f***ed up your phone
seconded... (holds up blank phone)
same issues here, odined JFD, all was working fine, went to update via Kies, and it completed, rebooted, and did not come up after waiting over a half hour
no lights, can't get to download or recovery modes..
Yes you need a jtag, I recently had the same problem. PM connexion2005 and he can hook you up for $50.
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cannonbomb said:
Yes you need a jtag, I recently had the same problem. PM connexion2005 and he can hook you up for $50.
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Thanks I just contacted him.
Well luckily I was able to get a replacement phone. But thank you to everyone that helped.
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Well luckily I was able to get a replacement phone. But thank you to everyone that helped.
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Kies has a history of causing bricks FYI.
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lol yeah i see that now and funny thing is i was actually coming from your rom EB.
The "Kies" effed up my phone has got to be the #1 over used excuse. Probably used more often then it actually does, but IT DOES! so its easy to get by with. I'd have to imagine in this situation its bootloader related. People should honestly fess up when they bork up their own device and pay the fee to get it jtaged. Just my 2cents.
As the old Chinese proverb goes:
"You break, You buy!"
I agree with you on that and it probably was my fault it messed up but im also broke otherwise i would of gone that route
one of these days there gonna catch on
Wow..... you guys.... bootloaders for vibrant are backward compatible..... even still.... you could have built a custom jig for $1.19, some scotch tape, and an old car charger. read the stickies yo.... I've had bad bootloader flashes at least 20 times now with odin and my cheap little jig has me back in dl mode in seconds.
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Wow..... you guys.... bootloaders for vibrant are backward compatible..... even still.... you could have built a custom jig for $1.19, some scotch tape, and an old car charger. read the stickies yo.... I've had bad bootloader flashes at least 20 times now with odin and my cheap little jig has me back in dl mode in seconds.
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I might try that next time but I just got my new phone in now so time to root again and try a different rom or go back to the old one not sure yet.
Majin, you have not had a bad bootloader flash yet. You will know when you do and that jig won't help...
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So your saying there is something worse than the "phone-pc!" Sign? Honestly I thought that was as far as it would go. I mean..... what's worse than "fail" while flashing boot loaders?
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So your saying there is something worse than the "phone-pc!" Sign? Honestly I thought that was as far as it would go. I mean..... what's worse than "fail" while flashing boot loaders?
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Oh yea there is definitely a worse step than that screen. It's called NOTHING. Literally your phone is worthless at that point without a good JTAG technician. I see it over 100 times a month... . Not trying to be a smarty just letting you know that there are scenarios in which the JIG is worthless and you will need someone to JTAG there phone. Please remember me if it happens to you as I can fix that although I would never wish it upon you...
pathbas said:
I agree with you on that and it probably was my fault it messed up but im also broke otherwise i would of gone that route
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Here that! College is to damn expensive! Better be worth it in the end.... Because this life of poverty sucks
Okay, this is driving me nuts. I've found multiple posts on how to unroot my phone but ALL the links are dead for Odin and everything I need to do it. SOMEBODY PLEASE throw me some links that work and instructions! I rooted it with the one click root method thing. I gotta get this thing back to stock so I can get my replacement since the screen is cracked.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1238070
This is a great thread. It should have everything you need. Good luck
Partner420 said:
Okay, this is driving me nuts. I've found multiple posts on how to unroot my phone but ALL the links are dead for Odin and everything I need to do it. SOMEBODY PLEASE throw me some links that work and instructions! I rooted it with the one click root method thing. I gotta get this thing back to stock so I can get my replacement since the screen is cracked.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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IMO its not worth the risk when it takes less than 5 minutes to Odin back to stock.
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You don't need to unroot your phone. I sent mine back rooted with a custom rom and got a replacement.
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Thats great...but when they go to test it and find out that its been hacked, Verizon is going trace that phone back to you and charge you for the replacement. As the poster above stated, its not worth the risk when it takes 5min to odin back to stock.
they actually still can tell that the phone has been flashed even if you odin back to stock. The only way to truly completely hide that the phone has been rooted is to use a usb jig and reset the custom binary download counter.
But they honestly don't care. This is all much ado over nothing.
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they actually still can tell that the phone has been flashed even if you odin back to stock. The only way to truly completely hide that the phone has been rooted is to use a usb jig and reset the custom binary download counter.
But they honestly don't care. This is all much ado over nothing.
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On the new devices that have flash counters yes...but from my understanding not on the fascinates or older devices. Maybe Im wrong tho?
I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
Anyway, I'll try to look into it if I get time.
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I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
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I was unaware of this existing. Thanks for the fun fact.
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I was pretty sure that the fascinated had this counter as it is triggered when Odin flashes the phone.
Anyway, I'll try to look into it if I get time.
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Yes, thank you for that info!
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
Agree
Yeah I was wondering the same thing. If anyone has any information about this that would be awesome!
I hope soon - with over $5k in bounty, it shouldn't take long. LOL
It better be soon because I'm so sick of not having TWRP lol. 5k bounty should be more than enough!
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Agreed.
I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I'm debating whether or not to return this for an MDK version, because I really don't want to wait for shipping, and I've been really impressed with the S4 coming from an iPhone.
I think I'll just wait.
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I came from an iPhone 5 too and tbh I'm glad I did I love this phone and I was on MDK when I got it but I updated like a dumbass. Not knowing that I had just sealed my fate for ever having custom ROMs and recovery. Oh well.
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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Hi im new to the forums and pretty knew to modding phones, but i was wondering the status of this as well? and when any of the developers here on the forum think that maybe the bootloader will be unlocked? A family member passed away so i kinda of inherited the phone and i want to use it since its newer and better than mine but they had updated it to ME7 so im stuck now i guess until they can crack it Also i wanted to ask if since that might take a while, if its possible to like reset the phone to factory settings and would it put it back to MDK maybe? or is there a way to like flash it back to MDK or something so i would be able to root/unlock the bootloader then? If not its fine i guess ill have to wait. But i had cynogen on my old phone (the original droid lolz) and it was awesome so i was hoping i could put that on the S4 as well and get rid of all this crap bloatware on it too. Well thanks a lot for all your work nice to be part of the community now, so i hope they keep working on this and keep us updated ^_^
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I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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blackra1n said:
I tried to flash it back thinking it might work but it didn't all it did was fail and leave me without a phone until I flashed ME7 again.
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ahh damn that sux sry that happend lol. soo much for that idea i guess lol T_T what about restoring it to factory settings like through the option on the phone itself? Will it just like reset and wipe everything but not rollback the version? Thanks for your response and with the bounty being so high and they managed to get a root for it pretty quickly i really hope they can unlock the bootloader so we can put custom roms on it soon :/
Useless thread...
Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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Don't you think the news will be all over XDA if anyone does unlock the bootloader of the S4?
Hint: It's not because they haven't managed to unlock it yet and probably never will.
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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Ownage. said:
I hate to ask this, but, I am curious as to the status of the VRUAME7 bootloader unlocking. I haven't seen any status updates since the bounty thread was closed. I'm aware root has been achieved, but seeing as I just got my S4, I'd like to experiment with different roms a bit.
Thanks.
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In an attempt to answer the question, I've been following this thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2384222&page=23), but I haven't seen any updates on the last few pages.
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Is it possible a future update may unpatch it?
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It's just as likely as the oceans completely evaporating overnight.
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The best we can hope for out of future updates is that they have a vulnerability that's easier to find than whatever's still waiting to be discovered in ME7 (if any such vulnerability is hiding there).
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You do realize an exploit similar to Loki would do the same thing an unlocked bootloader can do?
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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Yes and you do realize me winning the Powerball 25 consecutive weeks is more likely?
I believe in the devs here, many are working on it and too much time has passed w/o results, I believe if some exploit were possible it would have been found by now.
Sorry to be pessimistic but I think Samsung got it locked permanently and forever and, sorry to say it, but this probably means all future devices will arrive permanently locked down. :crying:
I'd sure love to be wrong about this.....
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the motos got unlocked over 6 months after release, and that was considered by many to be completely impossible. Seeing this phone is more popular I think the chances are better, just will take time!
I put in an RMA with Negri electronics, and they're going to exchange mine for an MDK phone. Really should have done my research before updating...