Seems that my phone running fascinatemtd cm7 will sporadically lose data (but not the symbol). This is especially clear if the signal/3g stuff turns white in the notification bar. This does not happen to me on other ROMs.
Is this a CM7 bug or a radio bug? I am using latest CM7 with EC09 radio. Have also tried ED04 radio. The strange thing is if I open the browser the phone's data seems to work and the bars will turn green (or blue depending on theme) again.
****I am noticing very long awake times for Email and Google Maps app (only when latitude enabled)
Please excuse me if I don't understand this.
Your 3G icon turns white (as opposed to what ever color it usually is).
When you attempt to use the 3G connection it turns back on and works fine?
And your phone is not deep sleeping when running latitude or checking/updating gmail?
Are you just concerned about the color change or is there a data loss problem when you are actually using data or.....
If I'm not mistake it is just the radio turning off to conserve battery when not polling for data updates. Mine does the same thing when I leave wifi turned on but I am not with in range of a network (and when the phone first starts up from a restart or power on)
Maybe just a little more clarity and we might have an answer, or its quite possible I am not reading this right.
I will say my issue is one that is sort of funky and difficult to describe. Basically it seems that sometimes the radio connection will die and not sync data while the phone is sleeping. When I turn the screen on either the data bars are white or the 3G icon is altogether gone. Then I either am able to open up a browser and they turn green or I have to reboot the phone. Rebooting doesn't always work.
FYI the bars being green means that your phone has a connection to the google servers.
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I will say my issue is one that is sort of funky and difficult to describe. Basically it seems that sometimes the radio connection will die and not sync data while the phone is sleeping. When I turn the screen on either the data bars are white or the 3G icon is altogether gone. Then I either am able to open up a browser and they turn green or I have to reboot the phone. Rebooting doesn't always work.
FYI the bars being green means that your phone has a connection to the google servers.
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+1. Having the same issue. Try cycling airplane mode when the icons turn white.
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I'm activating my old Droid then gonna swap back. We'll see...
From the CM7 OP:
jt1134 said:
Known Issues:
* occassionally the radio may completely die (usually after phone has been powered off for a while) - fix: (shouldn't have to say this): pull the battery.
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But as has been said, the bars going white does not need to mean that there is a problem. They adjust a bit based on what the radio is talking to...
And have you tried ED05? It is available in the dev section as a standalone odin now...
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Seems that my phone running fascinatemtd cm7 will sporadically lose data (but not the symbol). This is especially clear if the signal/3g stuff turns white in the notification bar. This does not happen to me on other ROMs.
Is this a CM7 bug or a radio bug? I am using latest CM7 with EC09 radio. Have also tried ED04 radio. The strange thing is if I open the browser the phone's data seems to work and the bars will turn green (or blue depending on theme) again.
****I am noticing very long awake times for Email and Google Maps app (only when latitude enabled)
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I'm having the same problems every time I reboot. I especially have this problem if wifi was left on and then i reboot. Wifi connects in the status bar but I have no data transfer. I have to toggle wifi off and back on again to get wifi working again and sometimes I have to do the same thing if 3g is the first data connection on when I reboot. I suppose toggling airplane mode would accomplish the same thing but who knows. Once I am stable in the OS then all of my data works whenever I toggle between 3g and wifi.
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From the CM7 OP:
But as has been said, the bars going white does not need to mean that there is a problem. They adjust a bit based on what the radio is talking to...
And have you tried ED05? It is available in the dev section as a standalone odin now...
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Yes similar problems. I overheard somebody today out and about saying their email 'feature' phone with Verizon would intermittently lose data connection. What the heck is going on?
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Hi, I'm currently using ICS Passion v10.6. I do not have a data plan, but am always connected to wifi at my house (router is usually about 3 feet from my phone).
Often my phone will lose google connectivity (wifi and signal bars will go gray), and often, usually when i leave my phone untouched for a while and then check it, i will notice that wifi had been lost and it does not reconnect until i turn the screen back on. I have the wifi sleep policy set to never sleep (keep wifi on: always), and the battery info says that the wifi is constantly on.
I was wondering if a different modem would help or if it is a bug in the rom itself or the kernel? My wifi and google connections would constantly be on 24/7 when I was running bionix v1.3.1. I've tried flashing the KB1 modem which bionix uses, but i get the same result.
Thanks for any help
Hey Devils,
I've had some of the same issues, aslo using 10.6. If I leave my phone alone for a bit it seems to stop getting notifications from data. The best example of this is I use Trillian IM and I can be chatting on it. Finish. And put it aside for awhile and not get any notifications and then when I hit the power button all of a sudden I've got 30 IMs waiting for me.
I have tried several different Vibrant ICS modems from this thread but they all caused big issues for me. some caused massive power drain but all of them caused my lock screen be unresponsive when I hit the power button and I'd have to wait for the screen to blink out and hit the power button again to be able to get access. The same would happen when I get a phone call, sometimes the screen just would not respond when it lit up for an incoming call. I think it was because it would start searching for data connectivity (so it seems related to the problem which makes me think it's not modem related)
In the end, I went back to the KB5 modem and my screen issues seem to have resolved. I may try Passion 11 soon and I'll post results if it helps, but right now I'm not ready to do another change on my phone.
-update- I just checked and saw that v12 is out now and has both a kernel update and an update to wifi. I'll probably try that tonight.
-update- I think this might be being caused by "Deep Sleep" causing the phone to shut down it's data antennas to turn of to save battery. I've installed "NStools" on my phone and set it to set the min CPU freq. to 200mhz to see if that will prevent deep sleep. I'm not certain this tool will work 100% on this build, but we'll see I guess.
I'm also running the Vibrant without data, using wifi to do things with the internet.
Since flashing ICS I haven't had any wifi issues on the two networks that I've used. Seems odd that you are now having them. Have you tried a different hotspot?
I have had issues sending text messages. I can place and receive calls, receive texts but can't send any. Have you had any of these issues? I'm curious if it has to do with the lack of data plan.
Has anyone else noticed their Lumia using 3G when it shouldn't be e.g. at home with a working wifi access point?
Mine has done this a few times and because WP7 is so clean and simple it's pretty hard to see what's actually going on - there's no data counter. And to make it worse the data icon shows in the status bar even when wifi is on. Ideally it would show one or the other.
Yes, I notice that too. It could be a bug.
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Has anyone else noticed their Lumia using 3G when it shouldn't be e.g. at home with a working wifi access point?
Mine has done this a few times and because WP7 is so clean and simple it's pretty hard to see what's actually going on - there's no data counter. And to make it worse the data icon shows in the status bar even when wifi is on. Ideally it would show one or the other.
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Yup, I think it uses 3G when the phone is locked, as the phone seems to disconnect from Wi-Fi when you lock the phone. Another bug that probably needs addressing.
Yes! This affects me too.
It switches to 3G randomly when I'm on wifi and kills my data without me realising (or shows failed page loads when I have full wifi reception).
It also turns off wifi whenever I lock phone which seems to disrupt/cancel all push messages! Push messaging just isn't working.
So is this problem unique to Lumia 800?
i've noticed this too. it'll also present me with wifi hotspots to connect to, including ones it should be connected to.
as of now, i don't know whether it's an issue with locked or unlocked handsets. my handset was bought unlocked with no branding, but i've noticed some of the bugs i'm having don't seem to happen on network locked/branded handsets.
It's not a Lumia thing, it's just how WP works. Turning off wifi to save on battery use I guess. Android has the same default setting, although it allows you to change it.
I can understand it using 3G for background processes, like you say Android does the same thing.
What I can't understand is it using 3G when I am using the web browser on the phone, and the Wifi icon is lit at the top of the screen.
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It's not a Lumia thing, it's just how WP works. Turning off wifi to save on battery use I guess. Android has the same default setting, although it allows you to change it.
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That's not the case actually, before the firmware update I used to get my notifications, after the update, I don't, I think Nokia did it on the firmware update.
Which firmware was this working in btw?
Oh and turning off WLAN when you have an active connection does NOT save power. It only saves power when there isn't an active connection because the 3G uses more for retrieving background data (eg. regular email, social networking updates) and *much* more for retrieving heavy data. I have tested this on numerous Nokia phones.
^ i got the opposite result - normally i have WLAN turned on at all times, because it always connects to wifi at home and at work. my battery lasted much longer (it lasted the night with 39% left, as opposed to going flat sometime in the night) with just the 3g turned on.
I noticed that wi-fi only stays on after you lock the screen if the phone is charging. Otherwise it cuts the conncetion. Very annoying indeed if you are downloading big games over wi-fi. However I get my notifications and emails just fine in any case. Remeber though, windows phone doesnt support proper push, hence why they cant get skype to recieve calls in the background. Facebook and whatsapp push always comes about 3-4 minutes later than needed.
Another thing that i have been testing for a while on various phones (nokia n9 included, not the lumia because it's too unreliable) and also got mentioned in this tread is wi-fi vs 3g consumption.
So my results are:
with 3 emails 15-30 mins sync or push for one, at least one push service eg, facebook, vkontakte whatsapp etc (where possible)
i concluded that if you just leave the phone there for a day in standby and dont use it, it drains quicker with wi-fi on. Everytime. Every phone.
However when using the internet eg. browsing for half an hour etc. wi-fi uses a lot less battery than 3g.
So only use the wi fi when you need it and switch it off for background tasks. (WP7 does that anyway, for a reason)
Hey there,
I was wondering if it's normal that my wifi indicator usually stays completly grey even when I'm standing next to the router and connectivity is working properly?
Yep. Only goes blue when you're connected to Google servers (using Google Play, syncing calendar/contacts, etc).
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Yep. Only goes blue when you're connected to Google servers (using Google Play, syncing calendar/contacts, etc).
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Even when I'm browsing the play store is stays grey,
I'm using hydrogen - ics btw, the indicators are all blue except the wifi which turns grey after the first time u lock the phone and never becomes blue again
Issue with your rom/kernel in that case. Whatever the case may be, I wouldn't worry about it if it isn't affecting the functionality of the phone. If you having problems with anything Google on your phone, then I'd worry.
If you're an anal-retentive type, ask in the forum devoted to the rom you're using, if you really want to test the phone, go back to stock & you'll see what I'm talking about.
Recently I disabled the best wi-fi performance option (I enabled it on accident while messing around with settings on launch day) which obviously increased my battery life dramatically by actually allowing my phone to go into deep sleep. But now I hit a new issue.
Before I go on, I want to state that I DID apply the SmartSync fix and that my data IS working while my phone is in deep sleep.
New emails I receive with Gmail app do not get pushed to my phone as they should. They are anywhere from 5-15 minutes late if they even show up at all. If I happen to turn my screen on, automatically I get the notification of new emails.
Is anyone else having this issue with Gmail or any other app? I find it strange that while I have data (wi-fi/3g) enabled and working with the screen off, emails still come in delayed.
Any help would be appreciated. I have searched around and most of the answers I came up with (regarding HTC devices like the One X) had to do with SmartSync messing up the connection or someone not having the notifications enabled. I'm at a loss 0.0
EDIT: I tested this with Google Talk had my main account up in Gmail and in another browser windows my other Gmail account. Added both of them, talked to my self, if my device screen was off, I would either get it 1-2 minutes late or not at all. Once I turned my screen back on, the notifications poured in. I also tried the same scenario with my main Gmail account logged off (in case it was canceling out the messages to my phone, which it wasn't) and I had the same outcome. I edited the title to reflect that this isn't a Gmail only issue.
EDIT 2: Did more tests, I tried turning Wi-Fi off completely and running the same tests as above to my surprise everything worked as expected. I initially thought it might be because of my 5Ghz Wi-Fi band, so I tried it all again on my 2.4Ghz channel -- had the same problems as before. Somehow the issue pertains to your screen being off and Wi-Fi being on.
EDIT 3: I just tried streaming Pandora and shutting the screen off (maybe WiFi WAS somehow shutting off) Pandora kept playing no problem. I messaged myself on Talk, got the notification right away. This is very bizarre 0.0 But it might confirm this only happens when the phone is in deep sleep mode... Still doesn't answer why it doesn't happen on 3G or why notifications sometimes still come through.
EDIT 4: Still no fix but I have discovered that for some reason if the screen is off ANY data doesn't go through. Let me explain better:
If I have some thing like Pandora running then it will continue to run once I shut my screen off. But if WiFi isn't being used and I turn my screen off and then lets say I try to connect to it with Cerberus or ping it from my PC or something it will not even though the router reports it as connected.
Very strange behavior.
This is interesting...maybe the wifi performance toggle is associated to the smartsync, and all?.....I will say that with it unchecked I am getting some really really good battery life here compared to previous phones....but I also notice at times when emails are not pushed till I wake the screen during the day....Also the fact my wifi doesn't automatically reconnect to my house when I get back from work till I wake the screen...little things like that...
Havent messed with the best performance setting but will try it today now...
Racer Of All said:
Recently I disabled the best wi-fi performance option (I enabled it on accident while messing around with settings on launch day) which obviously increased my battery life dramatically by actually allowing my phone to go into deep sleep. But now I hit a new issue.
Before I go on, I want to state that I DID apply the SmartSync fix and that my data IS working while my phone is in deep sleep.
New emails I receive with Gmail app do not get pushed to my phone as they should. They are anywhere from 5-15 minutes late if they even show up at all. If I happen to turn my screen on, automatically I get the notification of new emails.
Is anyone else having this issue with Gmail or any other app? I find it strange that while I have data (wi-fi/3g) enabled and working with the screen off, emails still come in delayed.
Any help would be appreciated. I have searched around and most of the answers I came up with (regarding HTC devices like the One X) had to do with SmartSync messing up the connection or someone not having the notifications enabled. I'm at a loss 0.0
EDIT: I tested this with Google Talk had my main account up in Gmail and in another browser windows my other Gmail account. Added both of them, talked to my self, if my device screen was off, I would either get it 1-2 minutes late or not at all. Once I turned my screen back on, the notifications poured in. I also tried the same scenario with my main Gmail account logged off (in case it was canceling out the messages to my phone, which it wasn't) and I had the same outcome. I edited the title to reflect that this isn't a Gmail only issue.
EDIT 2: Did more tests, I tried turning Wi-Fi off completely and running the same tests as above to my surprise everything worked as expected. I initially thought it might be because of my 5Ghz Wi-Fi band, so I tried it all again on my 2.4Ghz channel -- had the same problems as before. Somehow the issue pertains to your screen being off and Wi-Fi being on.
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Try installing this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logicvoid.powersaversettings&hl=en and unchecking "put data connection to sleep." It may not solve the issue but its worth a shot.
Okay, I just tried streaming Pandora and shutting the screen off (maybe WiFi WAS somehow shutting off) Pandora kept playing no problem. I messaged myself on Talk, got the notification right away. This is very bizarre 0.0 But it might confirm this only happens when the phone is in deep sleep mode... Still doesn't answer why it doesn't happen on 3G or why notifications sometimes still come through.
njfoses said:
Try installing this https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.logicvoid.powersaversettings&hl=en and unchecking "put data connection to sleep." It may not solve the issue but its worth a shot.
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Have it, and it is unchecked. That's the weird thing, wi fi doesn't actually turn all the way off because SOMETIMES I do get the push notifications (late, however).
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This is interesting...maybe the wifi performance toggle is associated to the smartsync, and all?.....I will say that with it unchecked I am getting some really really good battery life here compared to previous phones....but I also notice at times when emails are not pushed till I wake the screen during the day....Also the fact my wifi doesn't automatically reconnect to my house when I get back from work till I wake the screen...little things like that...
Havent messed with the best performance setting but will try it today now...
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Let me know if that works, if so at least I know I'm not the only one xD
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I DID apply the SmartSync fix
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what is the smart sync fix?
When I installed this app, my cpu reduction and frame rate reduction was enabled. Does that mean this is standard with this phone. Does using this app to disable those setting improve the performance?
Issue continued overnight, tried various other things and nothing seems to fix it. I want to get my notifications but I don't want to destroy my battery life xD is anyone else having this issue?
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what is the smart sync fix?
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This one:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1697375&highlight=smartsync
I have the same problem on my 2nd evo as well after returning the 1st. Going to try a rom with the fix tomorrow. I'll report back with what I find. Hopefully I won't have to return again....
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I have the same problem on my 2nd evo as well after returning the 1st. Going to try a rom with the fix tomorrow. I'll report back with what I find. Hopefully I won't have to return again....
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It's definitely not a hardware problem because if that was the case the phone wouldn't work with wi fi almost at all. My wi-fi connection is rock solid even when the screen is off, just for some reason it won't notify I have the messages until the screen gets turned on.
I did some tests on my gf's stock phone and she's having the same issues, I told her to do some tests on her parents wi-fi when she goes there. I wonder if sgt slaughter has any news.
Btw if you definitely need them on time and need to be on wi fi but don't care about battery life that much just enable best wi fi performance.
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Actually more like a Smart Sync break ... The built in settings/app put your data connections to sleep when your phone goes to deep sleep; this is done to save battery when phone not in use for extended period.
Some folks hate losing the data connections so a flashable "fix" is available for the "problem" ... Look around; you'll find it
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its a sense problem, there's a thread in the one x forums on how to fix it. I'll post when I get home if I can find it. it shuts down to a 'power save' mode after a while plus after midnight or 11 or something.
Just wanted to update that I installed a custom rom that contains the WiFi fix mentioned and although my WiFi doesn't seem to drop how it did before (at least after one day) my notifications are anywhere between 4-10 minutes late on average through WiFi. This seems to be across the board for Exchange email, Gmail & Google Voice.
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Just wanted to update that I installed a custom rom that contains the WiFi fix mentioned and although my WiFi doesn't seem to drop how it did before (at least after one day) my notifications are anywhere between 4-10 minutes late on average through WiFi. This seems to be across the board for Exchange email, Gmail & Google Voice.
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Yes my setup also had the wi-fi fix, I can even see my phone connected to the router when the screen is off, the connection is strong.
I had a suspicion it was probably the basic transfer rate of the browser and for some reason I could not adjust this on my fancy 100 dollar router with dd-wrt flashed onto it so I set up a repeater with my older router on stock settings. It seems like the notifications are coming through better now (albeit not instantly) but at least I don't have to turn my screen on every time. It might be a placebo effect or just luck (because at times it does work even with my other router).
EDIT: Ignore the italicized sentence. It was just a stroke of luck, the problem came back.
I'm out of ideas at this point xD
I am having a similar issue as well.
I am rooted and running Fresh Evo LTE 5.1.1 which has the "Disabled SmartSync deep sleep mode" already installed. I also leave my WiFi off (for the same reason as the OP outlines - messages are just plain not arriving or if they do it's after I turn the screen on).
I use gtalk as my primary form of communication on my phone and what seems to be happening is messages from my two closest friends are never arriving. It's hit or miss but seems to be ~45mins after my screen turns off that they send a message and I never get it. One is on Sprint on my family plan and the other is on Verizon. The weird thing is that if I look in my gmail > conversations the messages aren't there either.
I haven't been able to verify any SMS messages that I haven't received but I have noticed that my email notifications seemed a bit wonky but this issue may be fixed with changing my "push" hours (which is retarded to have factory set to only push email between 8am - 8pm).
Question for the smart kids in the class: When does the phone reach "deep sleep"? Is it around ~45mins after the screen turns off?
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I am having a similar issue as well.
I am rooted and running Fresh Evo LTE 5.1.1 which has the "Disabled SmartSync deep sleep mode" already installed. I also leave my WiFi off (for the same reason as the OP outlines - messages are just plain not arriving or if they do it's after I turn the screen on).
I use gtalk as my primary form of communication on my phone and what seems to be happening is messages from my two closest friends are never arriving. It's hit or miss but seems to be ~45mins after my screen turns off that they send a message and I never get it. One is on Sprint on my family plan and the other is on Verizon. The weird thing is that if I look in my gmail > conversations the messages aren't there either.
I haven't been able to verify any SMS messages that I haven't received but I have noticed that my email notifications seemed a bit wonky but this issue may be fixed with changing my "push" hours (which is retarded to have factory set to only push email between 8am - 8pm).
Question for the smart kids in the class: When does the phone reach "deep sleep"? Is it around ~45mins after the screen turns off?
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I also have the dual core mod which I BELIEVE sets my deep sleep right away which is probably why I have the problem more often than you do. One question just so we can start gathering facts large scale, if you're on 3G do you have the problem still? What if you turn 'best wi-fi performance'?
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I also have the dual core mod which I BELIEVE sets my deep sleep right away which is probably why I have the problem more often than you do. One question just so we can start gathering facts large scale, if you're on 3G do you have the problem still? What if you turn 'best wi-fi performance'?
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Correct - I have this problem on 3G. I run on only 3G because the problem is more prevalent on WiFi, but still very common on only 3G.
Currently I have "best wifi performance" turned off. Do you want me to test with it on or off?
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Correct - I have this problem on 3G. I run on only 3G because the problem is more prevalent on WiFi, but still very common on only 3G.
Currently I have "best wifi performance" turned off. Do you want me to test with it on or off?
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On. When I turn it on it pretty much eliminates the issue, it acts just like 3G. But for me 3G is almost perfect (a couple seconds of delay but I can deal with that). Remember though that if you leave it ticked on it will destroy your battery life.
WiFi is on, best WiFi performance is on as well.. I'll run it this way a couple of days and see if I can replicate the problem.
I just wanted to say that I've been having similar issues. I have tried turning on best wifi performance, but I don't think that is helping. For one thing, when I have that turned on, when I wake the phone, the wifi is often times not connected, and it shows 3G. Then it will connect to wifi shortly after I wake the phone. On top of that, I'm still not getting notifications on time. I was notified of an email when I woke the phone that actually came in 10 minutes earlier. Hopefully HTC/Sprint is aware and working on a fix.
Still no fix but I have discovered that for some reason if the screen is off ANY data doesn't go through. Let me explain better:
If I have some thing like Pandora running then it will continue to run once I shut my screen off. But if WiFi isn't being used and I turn my screen off and then lets say I try to connect to it with Cerberus or ping it from my PC or something it will not even though the router reports it as connected.
Very strange behavior.
Hello
Each time when I back from custom rom to MIUI Global Version I have two problems:
1. Line defect on the bottom of screen. It appears randomly, not each time.
2. Usually I have set that data connection turn off after 5 minuts of screen off. Later when screen is on data connection should return. Problem is that often it is not turn on again fast. Sometimes it takes one minute, or I should press data button to activate it.
Both problems are on all type of MIUI (dev, stable, even xiaomi.eu). So I thought it is some problem with hardware, but on custom roms everything is ok. Does anyone have idea what could happen and how to fix it ?
Here's the picure of line defect:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/0kavo3a2f7wzn6g/xiaomi.jpg
That bottom line thing in the status bar has been there for a long time. It appears after a reboot and disappears after some time, so not much of an issue.
But yeah, mobile data seems to be seriously messed up in MIUI now. Sometimes it just doesn't turn on, and I've toggle airplane mode a few times to get it work. Internet browsing speeds that I'm getting are terrible, more so when using WiFi. When downloading some large file or so, the speed picks up and seems to be ok, but browsing is terribly slow. Also, even though 4G signal strength is very good in my area, it sometimes unnecessarily jumps back to 3G in MIUI.
Custom ROMs don't seem to have these problems and data is fine. So, it's not related to firmware I guess.