Ok, so my phone is a Samsung Vibrant, my firmware is stock 2.2, and my kernel is Bullet 1.420GHz. Since this kernel has Voodoo Sound v9 implemented in it I installed the Voodoo control app (free version) to see what I could do to my music quality. However, I notice no difference when ticking or un-ticking most sound options (except “mono downmix” and under “Bass Boost” sliding the “Gain” bar). I’m not sure if it’s just my ears that aren’t noticing it or what, but if someone could tell me of a way to accurately test if voodoo sound is making a difference to my music it would be greatly appreciated.
I hope someone replies because I'm wondering the same thing.
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N00B_IN_N33D said:
Ok, so my phone is a Samsung Vibrant, my firmware is stock 2.2, and my kernel is Bullet 1.420GHz. Since this kernel has Voodoo Sound v9 implemented in it I installed the Voodoo control app (free version) to see what I could do to my music quality. However, I notice no difference when ticking or un-ticking most sound options (except “mono downmix” and under “Bass Boost” sliding the “Gain” bar). I’m not sure if it’s just my ears that aren’t noticing it or what, but if someone could tell me of a way to accurately test if voodoo sound is making a difference to my music it would be greatly appreciated.
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first, you have to have decent quality sound files to notice a difference (128kbps is crap for anything higher quality audio, and you will get no difference).
Secondly, not everyone's ears CAN notice the difference.
thirdly, headphone quality can mask a lot of stuff as well.
Voodoo sound is really only if you have high bitrate audio (not upconverted from lower bitrate, and low bitrate can be considered to start from 256kbps), high quality headphones, and ears that know what to "look" for.
Thanks for responding. Would you happen to have a high bitrate audio file I could download and test with?
N00B_IN_N33D said:
Thanks for responding. Would you happen to have a high bitrate audio file I could download and test with?
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Search for a flac version of a song or something and then compress it to 128 kbps and see the difference.
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N00B_IN_N33D said:
Thanks for responding. Would you happen to have a high bitrate audio file I could download and test with?
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I kinda thought you were joking there for a minute. You don't own any music higher than 128s? If you own any music CDs, burn them to your hard drive at 320 and put them on your phone. If you still can't tell, then you'll probably need to upgrade your headphones. If you're using sub-$10 IEMs or headphones, the poor build quality will mask any benefits Voodoo has on your sound quality. Do some Googling and find a nice budget pair (MEElectronics has an excellent reputation when it comes to bang for the buck in the sub-$100 range). If that doesn't work, you may just not have sensitive enough ears to tell the difference.
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The purpose of this poll is to find out if there is a majority that feel the stock volume is low & more importantly, to find a fix.
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If you are happy with your NC sound, please describe your experience.
If you have a fix & are happy with the sound, please describe the "fix".
If you have tried some solutions & are not happy with any of them, please describe your experience & vote that you want it louder.
I have tried "Poweramp" & by bosting the midrange freqs & the preamp level, the speaker was very distorted. Not sure if the speaker was breaking up or Poweramp added a bunch of distortion. I suspect that the speaker just can't handle the power.
The max volume level on the stock BN ROM is atrocious and unusable. Since going to CM7 and flashing Dalingrin's OC kernels the volume has been much improved and is usable. Would still love for it to be louder, but the magic Dalingrin worked has at least made the speaker usable.
I can't hear anything really if I hold the Nook up. But when it's flat on a surface it has plenty of volume due to the sound waves reflecting.
tj!2k7 said:
The max volume level on the stock BN ROM is atrocious and unusable. Since going to CM7 and flashing Dalingrin's OC kernels the volume has been much improved and is usable. Would still love for it to be louder, but the magic Dalingrin worked has at least made the speaker usable.
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What he said. On CM7, it's okay. The NC is a pretty quiet device, but I can't really complain any more.
If I need better and louder sound, I use my FiiO S3.
The way the question is asked causes the poll to be flawed. You should constrain the answers to a list like:
Stock sound low
Stock sound fine
froyo sound low
Froyo sound fine
CM7 sound low
CM7 sound fine
etc and so on.
The problem is people will answer the current question baon what they are using. On my CM7 installed Nook the sound is fine, but on the stock rom it sucked. How should I answer you?
I too have noticed that if the nook is flat, I can't hear much at all. I have been using a small wire easel that I picked up at a craft store, which helps out considerably.
My brother bought me a small compact speaker. I just plug it in. It works beautifully. On board sound on stock sucks monkey balls.
painter_ said:
The way the question is asked causes the poll to be flawed. You should constrain the answers to a list like:
Stock sound low
Stock sound fine
froyo sound low
Froyo sound fine
CM7 sound low
CM7 sound fine
etc and so on.
The problem is people will answer the current question baon what they are using. On my CM7 installed Nook the sound is fine, but on the stock rom it sucked. How should I answer you?
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Duly noted.
If you are happy with CM7 volume you could answer that you have found a solution. If you are not happy, answer that you would like it to be louder. The main reason for asking the question, is to find a fix & if it appears that many people are not happy with the sound, maybe devs. will address it.
I will add some comments to the OP.
Thanks,
kev
Alright I've seen countless threads here about how 'crap' the music quality is. I beg to differ. Go into the music settings, and put your equalizer to 'Rock'. Now if that doesn't make your music sound bloody brilliant then you need to get your ears checked - or maybe it's just me.
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On the contrary, if you think the sound level on the SGS2 is "bloody brilliant", you're probably coming off a very low base (iPod w/stock earbuds anyone ?).
Without using Louder or the app YahYoh posted on here a couple of weeks ago, the sound on the SGS2 lacks "oomph" for want of a better word. Using either of these apps improves this situation somewhat, but it's still nowhere near as good as pretty much every mp3 player on the market (even the cheap ones).
The actual quality of the sound is pretty reasonable, but many people will tell you the sound on the SGS was much better due to the Wolfson sound chip.
I disagree if my SGS2 is used with a sound level of 50% its fine 60% is far to loud .
I actually took the trouble to compare my SGS one with SGS two with exact same file and earphones . No real difference when tested on a high quality audio sample .Also tested against standard MP3 players . Tested all the varying hacks posted no difference .
There are a number of reasons as to why poor sound for some .
One some production runs look to have lower sound output .
Two possible;e likewise for stock headphones .
Three a lot of users are probably using poorly coded music
Four distorted bass seems to be a requirement of some users
Five obviously different users have different hearing
Six the biggest reason of all you are listing to crap music .
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Whenever I listen to music, watch movies, or watch Youtube theres always a hiss/noise in the background. Its really annoying and happens in every ROM and every pair of headphones I have. I know its not the headphones because I don't hear any of this on my iPhone. Is there any way to fix this or do I just have to live with it? Thanks.
I know that the devs can adjust the amount of hiss by dialing back the gain, but they have to balance the hiss with the ability to drive the headphones at an audible level.
A little history: Back on the Gingerbread ROMs, the hiss was really bad when Beats was added in because the gain was set too high. Once the devs figured that out, they lowered the gain until the hiss was barely noticable.
Having said that, I have noticed a slight hiss on the ICS ROMs, but it is only really noticeable on quiet portions of music.
coal686 said:
I know that the devs can adjust the amount of hiss by dialing back the gain, but they have to balance the hiss with the ability to drive the headphones at an audible level.
A little history: Back on the Gingerbread ROMs, the hiss was really bad when Beats was added in because the gain was set too high. Once the devs figured that out, they lowered the gain until the hiss was barely noticable.
Having said that, I have noticed a slight hiss on the ICS ROMs, but it is only really noticeable on quiet portions of music.
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Guess I'll just have to live with it. Does this only happen to the EVO or is it common?
can we change the gain ourselves because the gsm evo doesn`t have a gain mod
Wouldn't an equalizer help?
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Cetus Corr said:
Wouldn't an equalizer help?
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It won't, an equalizer is like the volume button. which is different from the gain.
what file controls the audio parameters?
Hi,
I've seen tons of threads from complaining that the SGS2 is not loud enough, however for me it is.
I use in-ear shure headphones with Etymotic plugs, which make it go really deep in my ear and isolate me from the evil outside world.
Anyway, I am not sure where my problem comes from. I used to have CM9 nightlies running as a daily driver and always kept them up to date. My sound was fine. I even installed Voodoo LOUDER to pump it up a little to get the perfect volume.
I recently installed CM10 and either the volume settings have changed or Voodoo messed up with my hardware because on the lowest settings, the music comes out really loud (I use Rdio which has no volume control settings).
Does anyone have any trick to change that?
Thanks
Gary
Same thing here. Never used Voodoo Louder or anything like that before though, so I doubt that could be the issue. I hope someone has some idea as the sound distorts even at a quarter volume.
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It's because audio is still screwed in CM10. I get the same :-\
If you use PowerAmp enabling DVC will help with getting things a bit quieter, but it's still not perfect.
I'll give that a shot thanks
Edit : Didn't work sadly.
So whenever I use headphones with my 4X it has terrible static noise in the background. My 3X had the same problem and to fix it I applied this mod which made wonders for the sound quality both on the headphone jack and the speaker on the back.
I was just wondering if there is a similar mod for the 4X somewhere? I tried Divine Beats but it did not work and even if it did I'm not sure it would fix the static noise. I have tried installing Ainur Sauron and Ainur JamesDSP which does allow me to change the sound but either it can't remove the static or I don't understand how to do it.
are you on custom roms ? i had this issue on custom roms , all of them . it is good on miui . to fix this you can flash hifi mod from mods section . it fix the noise somewhat
I am on Slim, and I don’t have any such problem.
Joad said:
are you on custom roms ? i had this issue on custom roms , all of them . it is good on miui . to fix this you can flash hifi mod from mods section . it fix the noise somewhat
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Yes I am on Lineage.
You will not fix it, atleast i never found solution. People which claims there is no noise have really bad hearing or terrible headphones. It's mostly audible at night with in-ear headphones, listetning to quiet stuff or audiobooks etc.. there is clear noise but if you listen to loud music ofc you wont hear it, i believe it's a problem with a ****ty audio processor. (i also had the same problem in my previous Xiaomi phone - mi4c)
Also it doesnt matter which ROM you are, it's the same on custom ROM's and MIUI.
try using this https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=72135125&postcount=344
k3lcior said:
You will not fix it, atleast i never found solution. People which claims there is no noise have really bad hearing or terrible headphones. It's mostly audible at night with in-ear headphones, listetning to quiet stuff or audiobooks etc.. there is clear noise but if you listen to loud music ofc you wont hear it, i believe it's a problem with a ****ty audio processor. (i also had the same problem in my previous Xiaomi phone - mi4c)
Also it doesnt matter which ROM you are, it's the same on custom ROM's and MIUI.
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I'm not having any issues with sound and I'm on MIUI 9 Global Dev Rom. (At least until this 54hr wait to unlock Bootloader goes by) I'm using Poweramp Pro for music and MX Player Pro for videos. My hearing is average and considering that I had been a DJ for around 15 years I've got some pretty decent headphones ( Pioneer HDJ-2000MK2 & Technics RP-DJ1200) with no issues when it comes to sound..
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People which claims there is no noise have really bad hearing or terrible headphones.
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Wrong on both counts.
BobaHeisenberg said:
I'm not having any issues with sound and I'm on MIUI 9 Global Dev Rom. (At least until this 54hr wait to unlock Bootloader goes by) I'm using Poweramp Pro for music and MX Player Pro for videos. My hearing is average and considering that I had been a DJ for around 15 years I've got some pretty decent headphones ( Pioneer HDJ-2000MK2 & Technics RP-DJ1200) with no issues when it comes to sound..
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Cool, now try with any in-ear headphones with volume on minimum listetning to audiobook or talk show for example. Not loud music that overrides all the noise & distortion.
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Cool, now try with any in-ear headphones with volume on minimum listetning to audiobook or talk show for example. Not loud music that overrides all the noise & distortion.
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Maybe your phone has a problem. Mine doesn't - and, apparently, neither does his. Nothing is wrong with my ears (I am a musician of over 35 years experience), and nothing is wrong with my in-ear headphones (I use them for recording, mixing and playback on 5 different devices). The sound on my RN4X is not that much different from those on two iPads and one iPod. In fact, it often sounds better. There is no point trying to convince us that we all have your problem, because we don't.
pretty sure its a problem on custom roms . i use in-ear headphones too and didnt had this problem on miui . but on custom roms there are noise .
btw flash this . it will fix it but there is still some little noise . best fix i could find .
Have you tried this.......
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.phascinate.lgv10.dacfix
k3lcior said:
You will not fix it, atleast i never found solution. People which claims there is no noise have really bad hearing or terrible headphones. It's mostly audible at night with in-ear headphones, listetning to quiet stuff or audiobooks etc.. there is clear noise but if you listen to loud music ofc you wont hear it, i believe it's a problem with a ****ty audio processor. (i also had the same problem in my previous Xiaomi phone - mi4c)
Also it doesnt matter which ROM you are, it's the same on custom ROM's and MIUI.
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<-- this one gets it
It's a combination of several factors
you can make sound worse when raising stack-protector from "regular" to "strong"
the same applies by using weird kernel / gcc / toolchain optimizations that mess with code
mostly you can reduce that "white noise" or "hissing", murmor by lowing the AMP levels on headphones in mixer_paths.xml file
it certainly also is influenced by the audio processing libs (drivers) of the ROM & hardware - too much processing can make sound muddy, raise amp and increase white noise (e.g. background noise when listening to classic music recordings [non-digital music])
having headphohes with a somewhat higher impedance also helps
having a ****ty standard DAC can contribute to it
enabling the "high performance" mode on wcd9xxx chipsets certainly contributes to it - it might make output more "powerful" but that comes at cost of sound clarity (at least from my experience)
reducing that "white noise" of course comes at a cost:
the loudness is reduced and some details can be lost
a common and known approach (when having FauxSound in kernel) is to reduce AMP
@zacharias.maladroit yeah i figured it awhile ago, actually lowering headphone AMP is working surprisingly well to negate (or atleast minimize) the issue. FauxSound is a must have for me personally, i'd get rid of this phone without it to be honest.
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@zacharias.maladroit yeah i figured it awhile ago, actually lowering headphone AMP is working surprisingly well to negate (or atleast minimize) the issue. FauxSound is a must have for me personally, i'd get rid of this phone without it to be honest.
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is it FauxSound (the "original") or e.g. Franco's sound control
in any case: what kernel, ROM and what app to control sound AMP are you using ?
Good to know that this device has FauxSound available
Was sound quality bad on MIUI ?
I might be switching to this device since I really need battery "backup" (a long battery runtime), since listening to music with current flagship devices makes me anxious (battery dropping down rather quickly) and I need long battery runtime due to reading ebooks (skimming, researching, reading), browsing the web, etc.
zacharias.maladroit said:
is it FauxSound (the "original") or e.g. Franco's sound control
in any case: what kernel, ROM and what app to control sound AMP are you using ?
Good to know that this device has FauxSound available
Was sound quality bad on MIUI ?
I might be switching to this device since I really need battery "backup" (a long battery runtime), since listening to music with current flagship devices makes me anxious (battery dropping down rather quickly) and I need long battery runtime due to reading ebooks (skimming, researching, reading), browsing the web, etc.
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Original FauxSound, currently running MiracleDROID with stock kernel and Franco Kernel Manager. But also big fan of OmniROM due to Delta Updates out of box and weekly builds.
Most stock kernels have cound control implemented from what i've noticed, if not i just flash Franco Kernel over. (that's probably franco's sound control)
Sound quality is not bad it's just the white noise / hissing, i listen to stuff at night mostly so it was super noticable at quiet parts, but overall it's not bad at all cant complain.
Honestly no regrets after buying this phone and using it for like a year, i have never seen that active XDA community for any phone, it's actually #1 in terms of activity on official LineageOS website which is crazy considering it was released not that long time ago. https://www.lineageoslog.com/statistics
If you are looking for great battery life then just go for it, it's actually insane few times i hit SoT of around 14 hours with 2-3 days uptime.. battery is probably the strongest side of Mido.
Here's my current battery life just to give you idea.