[Q] Experia X10a + sipdroid + sipgate + Google Voice != free calls - XPERIA X10 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

No joy on my X10a with the stock Android 2.1.
I got sipgate + Google Voice + the SIP app Groundwire working on an iPod touch.
Thus far, X10a, sipdroid + sipgate + Google Voice almost equals free calls, but things don't quite work for me.
Outgoing calls don't quite work:
If I ask the Google Voice app to make a call, it tries to, but then sipdroid also sees I'm trying to make a call and takes over and insists that the call either go out over my sipgate account (bypassing Google Voice) or go out over the cell network, using my minutes.
Incoming calls don't quite work:
a)When a call comes in, and I'm not in range of a Wi-Fi access point providing Internet access, I still want to be able to receive calls.
b)Conversely, I want to be able to receive calls over Wi-Fi if possible.
c)So, I have Google Voice set to ring my sip "phone" # and my X10 phone #.
d)But when the phone rings, it seems to be impossible to pick up the sip call.
e)If I change things to have Google Voice set to ring my sip "phone" # only, I can pick up the SIP call, but then I'm giving up on "a)", unless I try to reconfigure Google Voice every time I go in or out of Wi-Fi range, which is totally impractical.
I've looked around and found guides like these:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1010791 - [GUIDE]: Google Voice + Sipdroid + GV Dialer = Free Calls! -which is for the Thunderbolt, but can't find one that addresses the issue i'm having or the X10a in particular.
I have an X10a with the stock Android 2.1. I don't have root, as the guides I've found (like http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=920746 ) aren't clear on how to deal with the add'l challenge of the lockdown on an AT&T X10a that's not found on a regular X10.
What am I missing? Should I give up on SIP and try Google Talk instead?
I do not want to use minutes, and don't have F&F. I do have Wi-Fi wherever I need to make a call, thanks to a MiFi 2200.

Unbrand and root your ATT X10a....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1012380

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Free calls on wifi?

a few months ago I remember hearing something that t mobile was working on a application that would allow us to make unlimited calls at home under wifi...
I have not heard anything about this since, but are there other applications that can do this?
I have tried the goggle voice thing but I can't get it to work..
Thanks for you time guys, Tim
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The google voice app doesnt let you make calls over wifi..it reroutes your number to your google one and makes the call still costing you minutes etc. But you can text for free through it. If you want to make free calls over 3g, wifi. A setup I found working for me...was sipgate, google voice call back app, and sipdroid app. You can receive free inbound/and make free outbound calls through 3g/wifi. The quality..from my experience is not too bad , but the person on other end of line might experience echoing thats about it. Also can take a bit of drain on battery. If you help setting it up let me know.
Tim here are the steps...figured it would probably help others that are curious also. This is the setup that worked for me..its somewhat of a lengthy process. To make it easier...keep open the Sipgate and google voice pages.
1)Before we start do you have a google voice account..if yes go to step 2 if not go to the google voice homepage and sign up for a free number.
2) go to sipgate.com sign up for a free account (you will have to give your cellnumber to recieve a key to confirm your new free account). You can remove your cell number from the settings page later.(You can choose to install their softphone software now or later doesn't really matter)
3) Once you recieve your free number from sipgate..(it will be a random number from california) go to the settings page copy the number sipgate given you , navigate to go google voice and add the sipgate number as the number google voice forwards to. Also make sure the number is set as a home number.
4) You will have to verify that number..with google voice..this when you will have to install the softphone software by sipgate. Have google voice call your sipgate number..and through the softphone dial paid just hit the 2 digit number given by google voice to confirm the sipgate number. (You can removed the sipgate software from your computer now)
5) The software i use to make outbound or receive calls..is sipdroid and gvoice callback which are both located in the marketplace and free. Download them both. There are other alternatives , but these are the two programs i used.
6) Once you installed both apps...open up sipdroid go to the settings-> sip account settings... now navigate back to sipgate settings page move your mouse cursor over the voip phone icon and click on credentials. Look at sipdroid now..and input the sip ID provided by sipgate as your authorization name in sipdroid ,the password, and the server is sipgate.com
7. Once you input everything.. sipdroid should register and you should see a green dot in your notification bar. Now open up Gvoice callback put your google voice account details in and put your callback number...as your sipgate number. For the callback setting you can set it as always..or ask it doesnt matter ...up to you. That should be it. ( I have mine to ask)
8. To test if you set up everything correctly turn on wifi...and put your phone into airplane mode. make a call ...there should be a prompt to make the call through gvoice callback once you make the call the sipdroid dialer will come up..and you will receive an incoming call from your sipgate number..just slide your finger up accept call and google voice will connect you to your actual call.
As for receiving calls your contacts will have to dial your google number and sipdroid has to be running to pick up the call. Once you accept the incoming call hit 1 on the dialpad and your connected with the other person on the other line.
*Another tip..to make sure you have everything setup correctly is..sipgate gives you 60 free minutes to make outbound calls..you should only use a minute or 2 confirming the number with google...if you notice your mins going down then you probably messed up somewhere.*
From my experience the call quality...is decent there is minor echoing that can be heard only by the person on the other end..but hey its free. You can also make calls of over 3g. Be sure to turn off sipdroid when you are not going to rly use it because..it can take a drain on the battery as it ..constantly registers itself. I read that you can setup pbxes..to route your inbound and outbound calls..which can help call quality and battery life as its tcp instead of udp , but it was too confusing for me to figure out.
Anways I hope this information helps...

[Q] Confused as to how SIP, GV, and Dialer integrate on Archos

Right now, I am unable to make outgoing calls from my Archos 43 running UrukDroid 1.0 (I've tested using stock firmware 2.3.26) and I don't understand how I'm supposed to make calls by routing my call through google voice if I have no dialer. My setup looks like this: PBXes provides SIP -> use IPKall for a free washington state number -> use to validate google voice with a softphone (I used 3CXPhone). The only successful way I've been able to make calls was using 'connect with phone' on the google voice site, which called my sip number -> address and I was able to receive the call using Sipdroid base. I'm not going to have desktop access to google voice all the time though, so I tried CSipSimple as well, which just hangs up right away (Sipdroid hangs up instantly when you try sending the call) The weird thing is, it shows that Sipdroid is dialing [email protected] rather than the actual number, which makes sense to me because it's an SIP dialer/client. Now, I want my calls to be routed through google voice, not sent to my SIP provider. What is the easiest way to do this? Thank you!
Edited:
Setting up a trunk and outbound route in PBXes or using SIPSorcery (it doesn't actually provide SIP) just plays some really weird opera music on every outgoing call.
I used fring for sip and that was working ok.
comes with its own dailer and you can use the normal contacts.

Free Unlimited Google Voice Calls Over Wi-Fi or 3G (Android App: GrooVe IP) Uses No M

I am not advertising this app, I am just sharing what I saw. Thought this was pretty Handy for International Travelers or anyone.
Free Unlimited Google Voice Calls Over Wi-Fi or 3G (Android App: GrooVe IP) Uses No Minutes! $3.99 in Android Market
I personally don't have much use for this but for some people, I can see this app being pretty handy. Basically, in conjunction with Google Voice, this Android app lets you make and receive free calls over Wi-Fi or 3G/4G without using any of your minutes. It's a fairly new app so there might still be some bugs but the developer seems to update it regularly. The app costs $3.99 in the Android Market. Seems like a hot deal to me. Details are below:
https://market.android.com/details?id=com.gvoip
Description
Voice without Minutes!
This app, in conjunction with Google Voice, lets you make unlimited calls to any phone in US or Canada using the data connection of your mobile device without using up any of your mobile minutes! Once you get a free public phone number from Google Voice, you can use this app to make or receive calls to/from anyone in the world. (For details of how to get a free US phone number, the low international calling rates, or any other details, please visit the Google Voice web site at http://www.google.com/voice.)
This app supports making and receiving calls using Wi-Fi and/or 3G/4G data connections. It brings the power of Google Voice to you without the need to use any of your mobile minutes. You get all the advanced voice features provided by Google Voice on your mobile device. These features include:
- A single number that rings you anywhere
- Online voicemail--transcribed messages delivered to your inbox
- Free calls within US and Canada, and super low rates everywhere else
- The ability to send incoming call to voicemail
- Incoming call recording
- And many, many more...
It's like having two-phones-in-one. For example, you can use your original phone number for business and use the new one for personal use.
This app is also perfect for you if you are in a location with poor or no mobile reception but still have Internet connectivity over Wi-Fi.
Take your number with you when traveling with GrooVe IP! If you are traveling overseas, now you no longer have to be without a cell phone, or aquire a local cell phone in the country you are visiting. You can use your GrooVe IP phone to make and receive calls as long as you have a Wi-Fi connection.
If you have a smart phone with Wi-Fi connectivity but no mobile plan, you can use this app to convert it to a free, full-featured working phone.
This app has a separate dialer that can be used to make calls. Alternatively, the native dialer/call-log/contacts/favorite functionality can be shared between the "two phones" on a call-by-call basis.
** NOTE ** Please ensure that your Google Voice account is associated with either a gmail or google apps account.
** NOTE ** To receive incoming calls you MUST go into your Google Voice account and forward calls to Google Chat. You may also need to sign out of Google Chat or Google Talk in other locations as calls are only routed to one sign-in.
Thanks, yes I be been using it and it works well.
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I've also been using it...
...with minimal troubles:
I use it exclusively via wifi, and have to use Tasker and the Google Voice Settings Plugin to uncheck mobile #, and check gtalk as forwarded phones. I believe that this should be a setting that might be built into the app, as it would make it much more useable, imho. The tasker workaround, however, did have the added benefit of allowing me to also disable the phone radio, while wifi connected, to save power, etc...
I often leave gmail page open on one or more of my computers, and this confuses incoming calls, so must log out of all, as calls can only be routed to one gtalk client at a time (Google's issue)...
Nearly as often as not, when I receive an incoming call, the GrooveIP dialer does not open to permit acceptance, and I have to chase it into the taskbar, to answer. Also, not quite as often, when I do answer, the call connects just long enough for a "hello", before the wifi connection dies, and the call is disconnected. No other apps do this, nor do any of my other wifi client systems lose connectivity when it happens, so I'm guessing it's the GrooveIP app, tho I cannot say for sure...
Otherwise, it'll soon completely replace my cell-service, once our car and truck are fully outfitted with carputers and 3G/4G data, so I'm excited to see their progress!!

Stable VOIP Solution for calls over 3G?

I have a Google Voice number local to my area code that forward to my pbxes.org account, which in turn takes the call and sends it to my phone via the SipDroid app. I can make incoming/outgoing calls all day long for free, but have a problem with call quality.
I have linked two voicemail files. I placed a call from SipDroid out to the same number in both cases, but one was done over WiFi and the other over 3G (2-3 bars, average signal). The WiFi one is acceptable, but the 3G one is not. Listen for yourself (For the message, I read one of the opening paragraphs from the US Declaration of Independence, same on both so you can compare accurately.)
Setup: Google Voice number -> pbxes.org -> SipDroid app
Wifi VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-wifi.wav
3G VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-3g.wav
Now, with that said you need to understand my intent. I am wanting to use my Google Voice number for work, as my off-hours support phone, so I do not accrue charges on my personal cell plan (not covered by employer, and they do not provide work mobile phones). So, since I am usually on the go, I will not be connected to WiFi, thus I need a reliable VOIP option that will get acceptable call quality over 3G. There are multiple options out there, and I do not have a problem with a monthly fee, but they all come with caveats. For example, if I got an "Online Number" from Skype, and just forwarded my Google Voice number to that, it would work through the Skype app, no SIP app needed; however, the Skype voicemail cannot be disabled, so I can no longer use the Google Voice app to easily see my support calls/messages from my home screen. I have use the Skype app (or website) to listen to voicemails. Skype would solve my quality problem (based on reviews of other users that use it over 3G), but introduce the new voicemail issue. The setup I have now (GV->pbxes->SipDroid) allows me to use the GV voicemail, but quality is lacking...catch 22. Is there a better more reliable solution out there for VOIP on Android? I am fine with paying
There's also the Google Callback app, that I have been trying to avoid at all costs, since it is kind of hokey, and I tried the GrooVe IP app, but it has a lot of echo for the person I am calling, and no setting change could fix it.
p.s. - I will be updating my phone from the DroidX (3G only) to the Bionic (4G). If you think that will make a difference, and make all my concerns moot, then just say so, and that's what I'll do
Thanks!!
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
snrb Labs said:
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Already tried that, and every option in between, including the manual millisecond settings.
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
lowandbehold said:
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
crobs808 said:
Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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I'm also an early adapter of GV voip service.
I'm using Dell streak 7 (dual core 512 mb ram, horrible software config, honeycomb 3.2)
I manage to have stable voip quality with clear portable 4g hotspot connected through wifi. Unlimited calls and data, pretty cool. However, talking through a bluetooth device and 3GHSPA+ have been horrible. My friends keep complaining about bad call quality until I find this issues. If calling through wifi (I use groove ip) with internal mic and speaker, everything is fine. I guess it's either due to bad hardware coding of the streak 7 or due to the narrow bandwith of the bluetooth 2.1 or 3G. I'm not familiar with the tech details of streak 7.
I'm gonna try the new nexus 7 and sony xperia z ultra to see if any issues above can be solved.

CM10 / Wifi Calling work around (Using google voice)

Just wanted to throw this out here... for those of us who want to run CM10 but depend on WiFi calling because of coverage issues.. here's something I've done that works great
Basically we're going to be using Google Voice (For the phone provider) that's linked to a SIP account (SIP is the standard for VOIP), and we're going to use Conditional Call Forwarding to ensure calls go to our google voice number when we don't have server, but connected to WiFi.
First, you need a google voice account. Once you have created an account, make sure you log in/place a call at least once using Gmail (In the google voice phone settings, there's an option to have it forward calls to "Gmail", you want to make sure that's checked as well)
Okay, once you've done that, and you have made a test call... you need to sign up for this Google Voice SIP gateway https://simonics.com/gvgw/
This will, in a nutshell, establish a gateway between google voice's gmail call interface, and a SIP account. This will allow you to use a SIP account to make calls through your google voice number. Make sure you write down/store the information the Simonics gateway gives you once you sign up, you cant get it again!
After you register with the Simonics gateway, you will be given a SIP server, a username, a "secret" (Password), the registration string isn't important unless you're going to be using Asterisk, which we are not.
Now, once you have all this information, download the app CSipSimple (Best SIP client on android) https://play.google.com/store/apps/...lt#?t=W251bGwsMSwxLDEsImNvbS5jc2lwc2ltcGxlIl0.
(Optional)
You can also get the codec pack, which will give you a wider range of codecs to use.. but I find the default just fine.
https://play.google.com/store/apps/...5jc2lwc2ltcGxlLnBsdWdpbnMuY29kZWNzLnBhY2sxIl0.
Okay! Now that we have all that done, we're going to configure CSipSimple to connect to the Simonics google voice gateway. CSipSimple has great integration with the stock dialer. Open up CSipSimple... the initial config will pop up, here you can choose to integrate it with the Android dialer (which I recommend if you're replacing wifi calling), select "Available on WiFi" (Unless you want to use this over the cellular network as well, to save on minutes, only uses data) and you can also choose if you want to allow CSipSimple to operate over mobile networks (I'm allowed to use mobile, is the option name) pick your options, then save. Now you'll be presented with a list of VOIP providers etc.. scroll all the way down and select "Advanced" configuration.
Account name: Anything you want
Caller ID: Anything you want, but I suggest either your mobile # or your google voice number
Server: Whatever the Simonic's gateway provided you, this can be different so make sure you wrote all that down!
Username: What the Simonic's gateway provided you
SIP Authentication ID: Leave this blank, it will default to the username.
Password: the "Secret" the simonics gateway provided you
There will be a checkbox that asks to use TCP instead of UDP. If you're going to be taking incoming calls on this often, I'd recommend using TCP (it's much less battery intensive than UDP). UDP is the preferred method, but it will use a LOT more battery if you plan on being connected often.
Proxy: same exact thing here as "server", example: mine is gvgw3.simonics.com
Save that.
If everything is correct, after you save the account should register, and turn green showing "registered"
Okay! Now we can make calls using our google voice account, so let's test it and make sure it's working. Go ahead and hit "Accounts" at the top left (The "back" arrow) or simply hit the back softkey. This should take you to the dialer (This is CSipSimple's dailer, but CSipSimple has also integrated with the stock dialer, so when you make a call a menu will pop up asking if you want to use your Google Voice SIP gateway account, or regular mobile network.. if you don't want this menu every time you make a call, I suggest turning off the "I'm allowed to use mobile network" feature and turn off android dialer integration)
Dial this number: 1 354 415 1595 - This is what's called an ECHO test line, it's a regular land-line number.. you should hear a voice saying hit "1" for an ECHO test, "2" for music on hold. Hit the 1 key, and start talking. You should hear an echo of your voice... if you hear yourself talking, GREAT! Outgoing calls are working!
Now we want to configure what's called Conditional Call Forwarding/Unconditional Call Forwarding so that all calls to our mobile number will be forwarded to our google voice number when we do not have a signal (or in the case of unconditional, always), you can also set up what's Unconditional Call Forwarding... this is useful if you want to have calls forwarded to your google voice number no matter what. I usually turn off the radio when connected to WiFi though (saves a lot of battery), to ensure I don't have a mobile signal ****YOU WILL NOT RECEIVE TEXT MESSAGES IF YOU DO THIS****, so it's up to you if you want to turn the radio off or not. If you don't, you'll need to use unconditional call forwarding.
Now here's the deal: WIth T-Mobile, Conditional Call Forwarding (THIS IS VERY IMPORTANT) is limited to a total of 500 minutes per billing cycle. It doesn't matter if you're on unlimited, 1000 minutes, whatever. You get a TOTAL of 500 Conditional Call Forwarding minutes each cycle. Yes, it sucks. But that's what we have to deal with if we want to use CM10 with functional wifi calling that rings you when someone calls your mobile number. If you want to avoid using these minutes, you can simple call the person back (Using your SIP account), or give your google voice # (instead of mobile number) when someone calls you, and have them call you right back. ALSO, Conditional Call Forwarding is what forwards calls to your voice mail, so if you use it, MAKE SURE TO SET IT BACK TO THE NUMBER IT WAS AT ORIGINALLY, OR CALLS WILL NOT GO TO YOUR VOICEMAIL. You can see what this number is by using the short code # # 62 # in your dialer, using your mobile network.
There's several modes of conditional call forwarding. Forward if BUSY, Forward if NO REPLY, Forward if NOT REACHABLE (no signal). You can set up forwarding to your google voice for any of these, but I only recommend NOT REACHABLE, because it simply doesn't make sense for the other two. There's several ways to configure call forwarding. I recommend using the stock dialer's built in feature, but you can also use Short Codes to activate it. Open the stock dialer, click the menu button, then settings. Near the bottom of the Settings, there should be a "Call Forwarding" option. In there you'll see all three forwading settings (Busy, not reachable, unanswered) as well as the original number it's set to (your voicemail). All you do is simply change the "Forward when unreachable" to your google voice number. Remember, for this to be in use 100% of the time you're on WiFi, you will have to turn off your cellular radio. If Text Messages are important to you, I recommend using UNCONDITIONAL (Always Forward in the dialer->forwarding settings).. this will have calls forwarded to your google voice number NO MATTER WHAT, so make sure you turn it off when you leave WiFi.
Unconditional Call Forwarding, on the other hand, deducts from the minute plan you subscribe to. You can still use the above methods to avoid using your minutes, but just be aware that if you use unconditional call forwarding it WILL deduct from your minute bucket.
Please be aware that you have to have a mobile signal to configure call forwarding, so you need to turn it on before you leave service/enter wifi, or simply always have Unconditional Forward if Not Reachable forwarded to your google voice number. Honestly, I use Google Voice for my voicemail as well, so I have all three of my forwards always set to my Google Voice number, you might want to consider this option as well, as it makes it much more seamless. You can use the Google Voice app for visual voicemail as well as free transcription, and it's much much better than T-Mobile's solution.
Here's a list of short codes for call forwarding: http://support.t-mobile.com/docs/DOC-4319
These are very useful if you plan on using Tasker to automate any of this (This is what I do, to make the process very seamless when I enter WiFi)
I know this isn't nearly as simple as the stock wifi calling solution, and it doesn't integrate nearly as well... but it works. Once you have this configured, you'll be able to receive/make calls on WiFi without issue. You'll also have a method of calling using your data connection that doesn't use minutes if you need that, as well. There's other ways to do this, such as using an app such as "Groove IP" or "Talkatone", and those work very well. I prefer the SIP gateway method, because I can configure a SIP softphone on any number of devices, including my android device. For those standalone apps such as "Groove IP", you would do pretty much the same thing, but you don't need the Sip Gateway, and you also wouldn't need CSipSimple (which I find is superior to all the other VoIP apps)... all you would do is simply configure Unconditional/Conditional call forwarding to your Google Voice number and use whatever app you want. You could also use Android's build in SIP functionality (it's built into the dialer!) But I find it very unreliable and couldn't get it to register reliably with the SIP gateway... but that might be a great option as well.
Please title this correctly.
This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
dcacklam said:
This is 'How to get Google Voice working on your phone'... Not a viable workaround for 'cell-service-over-WiFi' style wifi calling.
Notes:
1) Monthly4G customers DO NOT HAVE conditional guys over on nal forwarding
2) This does not allow you to recieve MMS.
3) The only way you can use google voice with your real mobile-number is if you port it to Google, at which point you will never get MMS at that number again (because GV can't handle it properly)....
Now, does it work to have a usable phone at home w/o service? Sure, on a different number & with limited messaging...
But it is not a true WFC workaround.
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Well yeah I'm quite aware of the limitations. There's really no other viable alternative at the moment. Maybe someone can get the kineto app and libs from the sensation working but I highly doubt it, as the guys over on the sensation forum have been trying for a while now... Basically it's up to t mobiles, haha. I believe the only working device with jelly bean and wifi calling is the note 2, and sgs3....and once again its deeply embedded within the touchwiz framework.. The guys over on sgs3 forum even have a 350$ bounty for a non touchwiz working port. Doesn't look very promising but it's to be expected with something like uma... Maybe someone will figure it out. For someone who works in a complete t mobile dead zone, the only other viable option is sticking with Ics, and that's simply not something I want. Then again, I've always basically given my gvoice number out, and no MMS is very little impact considering you can send stuff over email, and every single carrier seems to have an email gateway... It is a major pain to have people send stuff to your Gmail acct. Instead of regular MMS, though,.... It's definitely not Ideal but it's a lot better than no service, an using ICS/sense builds.
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
So yeah man, not many other options out there right now. If you're someone who relies on sms/MMS heavily and most contacts use your mobile number, I can definitely see where that would be an issue. Most people I communicate with on a daily basis are very tech oriented, so it's honestly not that big of a deal breaker (to me). I've just found that the Sip gateway and CSipSmple work orders of magnitude better than any stand alone app implementation. If you have any alternatives (besides using ics/sense builds) I'd love to know them, I was a huge user of wifi calling (about. 70% of all my calls) so i'm open to try everything.
Lol get your friends and family to get viber you get to keep your number and sms and MMS and since these days every one has a smart phone an app like viber is quite nice especially if everyone had it on their phones... That's what I use when I don't have signal and have told friends and family to reach me on viber if they can't otherwise
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ericdjobs said:
I wasn't aware that monthly 4g didn't get conditional, kind of sucks. Could always use unconditional, if most people use your mobile number you would completely be dropping messages so i do understand the hesitation on that. I've been wanting sms/MMS. Forwarding options for a long time now, would be nice if carrier sms could utilize xmpp or sip messaging to handle sms forwards, but sms is another huge hack job that sorely needs replacement and MMS just a fancy if not severely limited email.
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If you use 'unconditional forward' then you will never get another call again. All your calls will be forwarded to G-Voice, which will send them to G-voicemail.
We'll see about wifi calling.
BTW, the Kineto/UMA app does run on our CM9. There's a kernel driver missing for GAN, and of course CM9 does not have data. It crashes on CM10 because of a missing native library for audio-recording...
The Movial/IMS app (From Amaze Stock) runs on CM10 but the setup screen is full of sense rubbish... However the Sense rubbish might be wrapp-able back to stock-Android, but that is a long-shot...
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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dilfatx said:
Skip all steps and install groove ip. And sign in with your Google voice login
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Yeah you can do that if you want, and it's definitely a much more simpler approach and it should be sufficient for most people.
But the SIP method gives you much more flexibility, like the option of using Speex/GSM codecs (which compensate for jitter and packet loss) while Groove IP hooks directly into the google talk API, thus you are stuck with G.711 mu-law codec, and that's not the best option all of the time. Using Speex/GSM codecs will give you slightly reduced call quality but much better reliability and they are much more resistant to congestion network situations or high latency.. it's a better calling experience all around IMO.
Also, using a SIP solution you're able to hook into an asterisk server if you so desire (which is important to me, personally) and manage multiple lines using one softphone.
At the end of the day though, if you have access to fast, reliable wifi whenever you need to make calls, Groove IP gets the job done just fine. But for someone who wants a lot more functionality and features, using the SIP gateway will provide that. Also, you can use it as a trunk for an asterisk server, for those of us who utilize that sort of thing.
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Hi, thanks for sharing this! I was wondering if there's a way to configure this directly in Android's stock dialer (just as can be done with pbxes.org)? Thanks!

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