I am really not sure of whether this should go here, or in Q&A, but I'll err on the side of here for this. the bluetooth on HTC devices is notoriously bad, and people ask constantly if there is a way to port the CM7 stack to sense, sadly AFAIK this is simply too much of a PITA to consider it.
I was looking at the Evo 3D specs though and it seems to support BT3.0 and a ton of profiles. Is there a reason it cannot be used in other phones roms with sense?
You're right. Q&A is the best place. Moved.
Bump for a feature we need.
I thought Imo ported a newer stack in his sense kernel, though I cannot say for sure since I havent used sense in a while.
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Right now I have been reading up on talk about future integration of a HID profile that would allow for HID devices like keyboards, mice, game controllers ect to connect to android.
I have found a possible source that makes it seem possible to integrate into the roms. If cyanogenmod can integrate this into their rom, why wouldn't it be possible with the current roms.
I for the most part understand what needs to done and what is involved but with no knowledge on how to go about doing it.
Can this be done?....
http://processors.wiki.ti.com/index.php/Android-Adding_Bluetooth_Profile
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1. We should probably wait for a solid AOSP ROM before we start worrying about adding in something like Bluetooth profiles.
2. When you don't actually know anything about creating a mod (just repeating what you've said in your post, not trying to be offensive) that you post in the dev section, it really shouldn't go here. I would have suggested General, it's fairly active, and you'll probably get a better response.
3. More than even posting it in general, you'd probably get the most productive response if you PMed a CM maintainer, or tweeted to Toast's Twitter or something more direct.
Ahem,
It appears that I AM a moderator, and i dont care for petty squabbling, i mean, come on guys knock it off.
As this is a possible mod, im moving this thread and cleaning it up.
Please behave guys!
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Ahem,
It appears that I AM a moderator, and i dont care for petty squabbling, i mean, come on guys knock it off.
As this is a possible mod, im moving this thread and cleaning it up.
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My bad. Have my ****s and grins now and then. Crappy work day that day.
Anyway. It looks like that incorporating a new stack in a sense rom Is pretty darn difficult. Since the hid profile Needed is stripped.
As I understand it a new stack would have to be made and modified. To work with sense.
Where as aosp its already included through Android and thats just ported to work with our phones. But maybe a new Bluetooth stack can be ported to a sense ROM someday.
But keep it open, maybe a skilled dev Can crank it out someday.
I'm going to contact toast or maybe a dev on the cyanogen team and maybe they can educate me a little if this can be done on sense or not
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Since this is such a large project it might be worth it to try to get devs together from all the various htc phones. If it could be done it would benefit all of the htc phones. As far as I know there is no advantage to using HTC's bluetooth vs aosp.
XOOM got ICS port right now, with everything working well (except face unlock, but hey...)
does that mean anything for us Flyer/View-owners? is it possible to port it to our tablet?
would love ics on the flyer
EDIT: Link: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/highly-functioning-cm9-kang-released-for-the-xoom/
what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
My guess is he was asking if there was a way to port it and mod it to work. What we really need to hope for of CM9.x to arrive that will support the Flyer/Evo View.
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what does it mean to us? That the xoom got an ics port, nothing more or less.
Different hardware types and kernels mean xoom with ics is meaningless to us.
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hahha somebody woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or are you always this negative? haha relax
im not stupid, i know that its a diffrent tablet, but this kinds of ports are being done almost daily.
as this fella mentioned, i was thinking of a mod, to get it to work.
He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
Hopefully the fire sales have pushed HTC to keep going.
psijac said:
I would love to have ICS on this device. Considering how much dev interest the blowout sales have generated I think its possible. But I am not going to how my breathe. I have a galaxy nexus but my evo view is still my primary device due to its pen and large screen. My wishlist for the next iteration of this device is: lighter, ICS, sprint 4g LTE in that exact order
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Reading about ICS on Prime on engadget has made me interested in ICS as well.
http://www.engadget.com/2012/01/10/hands-on-with-ice-cream-sandwich-on-asus-transformer-prime/
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He's not being grouchy, just straight forward. You cannot port a ROM complied for a completely different family of hardware and get it to function in any conceivable fashion. You'd be better off with a SDK build of ICS which would possibly boot if you hacked in a boot image, but none of the HTC specific hardware like camera, BT or video would function. There are already efforts underway to build ICS ROMs. Since ICS is built on top of HC, we have most of the pieces to build a vanilla ROM (no HTC Sense). Once HTC comes out with a working HTC device ICS ROM on hardware that is similar to the Flyer (yes some of their phones use similar hardware) that will be the port we want for ICS /Sense Roms.
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yeah i know, but since ive seen others with ics, that made me a bit inpaitient
htc sensation got the ics leaked, and maybe someone can start by playing with that one.
and i dont really care if its manilla or sense, both will do good dont think flyer/view will be getting any ICS official soon, since HC just was released.
if i seemed grouchy, it may be because I am a comp sci major with aspirations of being a software engineer. I view the question as either yes or no and then explain the logic why not. No intentions of rudeness, but I tend to assume I'm talking to ppl with similar backgrounds... At least on the net anyway.
Wooow...okey then...my bad! I should know better..
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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We are keeping an eye on the HTC Sensation leak. Right now there are 2 or 3 pages of things that don't work and of course its a different radio and HBOOT. So its a ways out from being useful as a port other than a novelty. By that I mean you might get something to boot, but none of the hardware functions like camera and touch screen would work.
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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ok, sounds good though!
whats the chances of a HC/ICS mix then, do you know? i mean, using what might be working in ICS (the best of it) combined with the useabilities of the HC.
*modding is not my area, as you might understand by now*
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May want to wait for something more stable to port..sounds more like a way to brick a flyer than a novelty.
How much difference is there between sensation and flyer? Also is the radio relevant for the WiFi flyer.
I keep forgetting the are 3g versions of the flyer.
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1. ICS is built on top of HC so we already have most of the ICS GUI. Google is already moving some of the ICS features into individual apps like the updated Google Search.
2. Radio is always relevant because it controls GPS, Wifi , and BT in addition to 3g.
I've been using cm7 on other devices and it's my first choice. I don't want any sense stuff....
I have a gsm EVO3D in UK.
The cdma version has official cm7 support? Has there been a cm7 port for the gsm version?
Sounds like you didn't bother to do any sort of reading in the DEVELOPMENT forum for the GSM version, which would have answered your question. +1 for being lazy.
Ok, I accept the critic, you could give me a +10 for lazy....
Can you maybe enlighten me a little? I presume there's no cm7 coming, maybe waiting on the cm9...?
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Ok, I accept the critic, you could give me a +10 for lazy....
Can you maybe enlighten me a little? I presume there's no cm7 coming, maybe waiting on the cm9...?
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Evidently this is a foreign concept to you, but please READ. Go look in the GSM development section, there is a whole thread on it. Do you expect to be spoon-fed? At least make an effort, especially if I just told you where to find the answer.
OK I found the thread a couple of days ago and being new to HTC EVO3D I was hoping there might be more
In the cm7 thread it's plain
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Left to do:
hardware acceleration
bt avrcp
camera
3d
Thats a rom only for devs to play around with...
Surprising because the cdma version has official cm7 with nightlies and only differs very slightly from the gsm version in terms of hardware... apart from the cdma/gsm network they're completely identical in every way....
I think us GSM users got the short straw. It's a shame there's a fragmented development on thus device which doesn't seem to affect many others.
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OK I found the thread a couple of days ago and being new to HTC EVO3D I was hoping there might be more
In the cm7 thread it's plain
Quote:
Left to do:
hardware acceleration
bt avrcp
camera
3d
Thats a rom only for devs to play around with...
Surprising because the cdma version has official cm7 with nightlies and only differs very slightly from the gsm version in terms of hardware... apart from the cdma/gsm network they're completely identical in every way....
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Not completely identical, to port it over requires a fair bit of work, plus c7 has it's work cut out with the 3D camera's, chances are it'll never be perfect. Plus stock ICS is going to be another hard nut to crack.
As for the lazyness, simply type up the top in the search panel EVO 3D c7 and that would be it.
post on their forum if you need to check on progress, but it's quite taboo to ask for an update from a dev, they tend to turn green and smoke comes out of their ears if they hear that type of question and you may be face palmed.
This might be a pretty noob question, and I want to assure everyone that I have searched for an answer on a bunch of threads to no avail:
Is it possible to port a Galaxy ROM to a phone like the EVO 3D? I hear nothing but good things about the Galaxy phones, and am curious to try them out without actually purchasing one. So is it possible to do so? I'm thinking not, since I haven't seen any such ROMS out there, but either way I'd like to know why or why not. If it IS possible, can anyone direct me to an appropriate ROM (or theme/launcher at least)?
Thank you so much for your help, and I apologize if this is a noob question that has been answered before- XDA is a world of it's own, so it's easy to miss a thread or two!
It IS possible, but as I have never seen one, you would have to do it from scratch, which normally takes teams of people weeks or months to get working correctly.
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This might be a pretty noob question, and I want to assure everyone that I have searched for an answer on a bunch of threads to no avail:
Is it possible to port a Galaxy ROM to a phone like the EVO 3D? I hear nothing but good things about the Galaxy phones, and am curious to try them out without actually purchasing one. So is it possible to do so? I'm thinking not, since I haven't seen any such ROMS out there, but either way I'd like to know why or why not. If it IS possible, can anyone direct me to an appropriate ROM (or theme/launcher at least)?
Thank you so much for your help, and I apologize if this is a noob question that has been answered before- XDA is a world of it's own, so it's easy to miss a thread or two!
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Generally, one of the common issues when porting ROMs are the difference in radio between CDMA and GSM. Using a galaxy device on the same radio as the EVO 3D device would be a good starting point, but would require a bit of work.
Off the top of my head, the major issues I'd forsee would be with the kernel/drivers, Android libraries and Android frameworks.
Either way, would be a very time consuming project and not sure the outcome would be very beneficial.
Your original goal was to expercience the Galaxy device, which you've heard is popular. In my opinion, the best way to do this would be to demo a Galaxy device as opposed to loading the Galaxy version of the Android OS onto a EVO 3D.
One reason the Galaxy devices are popular is Samsung as made them available across the world on many many carriers, while the EVO 3D has had a very limited release audience in comparison.
Hope that helps!
I would really appreciate some help with a project that I am hoping to start soon. I would REALLY like to get Sense launcher (Rosie) working on a non-HTC phone, specifically the ZTE Force 4g. I am asking for help from Droid Incredible 4g devs, because of the similarity of the platforms.
Both phones are MSM8690, both LTE, both 1GB ram, both are stock ICS 4.0.3.
What I don't know is how well this might go. That's where I need your expertise!
You see, I am sort of an HTC junkie. My last 4 phones were HTC's and I am very used to the Sense UI. There is not a whole lot of development going on for my phone (you can check it out on androidforums.com in the ZTE Force 4G - All Things Root forum).. Basically there is a CM10 port which lacks bluetooth and wifi capability, the stock rom, a rooted debloated stock rom (DroidForce, which is nice btw, and what I plan to use for a base). Also, a JB rom which is so new that pretty much nothing works. The Kernel sources for my phone JUST got released, and many are using the matrix kernel ported from the Avid. I feel that it would be good to add a little variety for ZTE Force users, and if I can bring together a Sense modded ROM for the community it would be nice.
Yes, I know that Sense is not often ported to other platforms due to the difficulty, and this thread will hopefully help me assess the doability of the project.
My first question, for those of you in the know, is what is the kernel version of the first stock rom on Droid Incredible 4g? If it is 3.0.8 then that is another thing that these phones share in common.
My first Sense related question is also about the kernel. Are there dependencies (modules, whatever) in the HTC kernel that are required for sense to work? I have read that there may be but have not seen this confirmed.
Next question would be about the screen resolution. The Force 4g is 480x800 while Incredible 4G is 540x960, both are 4". If this did theoretically make it to the point of testing, will the launcher screens and icons scale automatically, or will each graphic have to be resized? If resized, how complicated would that get?
Aside from the possibility of kernel dependencies, the next most important question is, "What exactly do I need?" This is where I would probably need the most help from you guys. If this is even possible to attempt, I don't know which frameworks I would need to add, what apks and files to rip from the Incredible 4g rom. All of the very detailed stuff which I know some of you guys know, I will need to learn.
I know probably most of you might possibly think that this idea is dumb and just say "Buy an HTC", but because of budgetary constraints I could not get a 4g HTC and use it on my carrier (Boost btw). I have the HTC Evo design 4G and it was on Boost but it's WiMax and we all know that is a dead duck.
So is anyone willing to give me some answers to the questions above? If there is a possibility of this working (any version of Sense would be fine) then I would greatly appreciate some guidance! I'd really rather not go the route of another launcher skinned like sense. That seems lame to me. Plus, I dig a challenge!
Thanks for taking the time to read and I thank you in advance for any responses!
Cheers!
-SimStim
Guess I'll just dive into this on my own..
Wish me luck?