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?s For those of you running the froyo roms etc.
Are the issues with these phones getting resolved with the new drivers?
GPS and navigation. Not talking about lock but how well it works.
Lag and freezing issues, battery life issues etc........
do you think 2.2 will actually fix the issues with this phone?
My phone has frozen up and rebooted twice in the last two weeks while running navigation and the battery would lose about fifty percent or more of its charge when this happened (about 1-2 minutes and get really hot). I l wish samsung would get their act together, because all I see is another boondoggle on the horizon.........I want to keep this phone if it will work in stock form........otherwise I will have to force Tmobile to exchange it ..... I have already waited since it was new (July) for it to work right.
rbcamping said:
?s For those of you running the froyo roms etc.
Are the issues with these phones getting resolved with the new drivers?
GPS and navigation. Not talking about lock but how well it works.
Lag and freezing issues, battery life issues etc........
do you think 2.2 will actually fix the issues with this phone?
My phone has frozen up and rebooted twice in the last two weeks while running navigation and the battery would lose about fifty percent or more of its charge when this happened (about 1-2 minutes and get really hot). I l wish samsung would get their act together, because all I see is another boondoggle on the horizon.........I want to keep this phone if it will work in stock form........otherwise I will have to force Tmobile to exchange it ..... I have already waited since it was new (July) for it to work right.
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Are you running a stock rom or a custom one? And if you got it in july you cannot "force" tmobile to do a thing with it unless you got the insurance but then its not really forcing them. But hey it was worth it to sound tough online...
My experience:
Obsidian V1
GPS Lock - Awesome
Freezing: None
Battery Life: Very Good
Fast?: Yes
Hi,
I have been reading a lot of posts by people but did not find an answer yet to problem I am having with Atrix.
I've had like 5 Atrix phones and never had this issue before so I am thinking it might be the phone but need input/opinion on what you guys think.
I have tried CM7, Ronaldo R9, Stock GB, Aura, Alien 4.
I bought this phone used and it was not even rooted.
I unlocked it, rooted it and started messing with it. It was working fine but then I had to mess with it.
No matter what rom I run, it goes from 100% to 40% in around 4 hours without any use.
I have 2 hotmail, 1 exchange, 2 gmail accounts and 1 facebook.
Any suggestions?
I am on stock kernel right now. I used faux kernel and it got even worse.
Any idea on what I might be doing wrong? I am about to sbf 2.2 Froyo to see if that fixes the issue.
Thanks in advance for help guys.
DONT SBF TO FROYO 2.2 YOU WILL HARD BRICK YOUR PHONE! Other then that what's your setCPU at?
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I never used SetCPU, I don't even have custom Kernel. I am using stock Kernel.
Baseband Version:
N_01.77.30P
Kernel:
[email protected] # 2
I usually freeze using TiBu, but this time I uninstalled everything from Live wallpaper picker to DLNA to Quick office, I barely have anything on the phone and it's still so hot. Draining battery like crazy. Did every calibration mentioned on here using CWM or Battery calibrator.
I was going to sbf the file with pudding and preinstall root built in. Thanks for the heads up though. I know that I can't go back to stock stock so was going to flash pudding 2.2.
You will only HARD BRICK your phone IF you have done the Official OTA (Over The Air) to GingerBread. If you have never done the official OTA and you were on 1.8.3 when you unlocked and you flashed GB (Kenneth Penn or other custom GB ROM's) then you can SBF backwards but it is not recommended.. I just want to clear that up for you.
Now, there is a battery issue with faux kernel (stock or OC) so make sure you are using the 0.2.0 version of his kernels.
If you want to do a sure test and find out if its the phone or the physical battery that is bad then flash Kenth Penn's Alien ROM with the gingerbread kernel and use the free setCPU here (free for XDA members). Yes you can still use setCPU even if you are on stock kernel because you can UnderClock the CPU when you turn the screen off or set it to were if you are under a certain battery percentage it will automatically uncerclock itself.
Thank you for the heads up but I know you can't do Froyo or GB without pudding if you have unlocked the phone, which I have unlocked.
So, are you saying that one of the ROMs overclocked the CPU and now it's stuck or something? I never messed with any SetCPU. All I did was change roms.
Do I need to do something special after I install EXT4 ROM with EXT4 formatting?
Do I need to format the partitions using something else to go back to stock partitioning? I just want my phone to go back to normal where it would last a whole day of playing without charge
S2K_MoZo said:
Thank you for the heads up but I know you can't do Froyo or GB without pudding if you have unlocked the phone, which I have unlocked.
So, are you saying that one of the ROMs overclocked the CPU and now it's stuck or something? I never messed with any SetCPU. All I did was change roms.
Do I need to do something special after I install EXT4 ROM with EXT4 formatting?
Do I need to format the partitions using something else to go back to stock partitioning? I just want my phone to go back to normal where it would last a whole day of playing without charge
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Actually you can SBF without pudding as long as you never flashed the OTA GB. Not only have they stated that in the threads but I have done it. The OTA will give you a Hard Brick.
No, I'm not saying that the ROM's overclocked the CPU... I was saying it's good to UnderClock it when your not using it.. (saves battery life)
Also you HAVE to wipe the battery stats after each ROM flash or you will have a incorrect battery percentage display
I see what you are saying.
I know you have to recalibrate battery after change of rom, what about if you sbf?
To test it out, I installed the 2.2 using sbf and charged it to 100%.
I have been on battery for barely 3 hours and I am at 60% life.
Without using anything, battery is at 95F and phone feels pretty hot.
I have had 4 Atrix before and never had any issues like this. Seems like something is always running in bg. I use my motoblur account so I have same number of emails and stuff on every rom and phone?
S2K_MoZo said:
I see what you are saying.
I know you have to recalibrate battery after change of rom, what about if you sbf?
To test it out, I installed the 2.2 using sbf and charged it to 100%.
I have been on battery for barely 3 hours and I am at 60% life.
Without using anything, battery is at 95F and phone feels pretty hot.
I have had 4 Atrix before and never had any issues like this. Seems like something is always running in bg. I use my motoblur account so I have same number of emails and stuff on every rom and phone?
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Did you just get the phone? If it has been overheating like this since you got it, it's very likely there's a problem with the unit itself. You may need to get it replaced.
I have the same problem here, I monitor my phone temp. using setCPU and to monitor the processor speeds on CM7 and my normal temp is about 37C or 99F and thats when the phone is pretty cool, however i have seen it get up to around 40-42C, not really sure what to do as i havent found a solution and it gets so hot now i can feel it through my case too.
I kept playing with this last night and no matter what ROM I use with Motoblur account and 3 push email accounts, it kept getting hot.
I am wondering if it's Motoblur getting suck on something since Phone Idle, main and phone is using most of the battery when you look at %age.
Or it's my 3 push email accounts, 2 gmail and 1 facebook that are syncing like crazy and killing the phone. I did a format of system, cache, data and all from recovery and installed cm7 for now to avoid blur. I am thinking of putting in all my push accounts in CM7 and see if it gets hot too. If it doesn't then it's motoblur or if it does get hot, it might be too many accounts syncing tons and tons of time?
So, I went back to Ronaldo's R9 Rom and been keeping an eye on battery.
I skipped blur setup and just put my gmail account on there that is associated with my contacts and all.
1h 21m 2s on battery, 92% battery life left.
Display 45%
Phone Idle 32%
Cell standby 8%
com.android.inputmethod.latin 4%
Messaging 3%
Voice Calls 2%
Android OS 2%
com.android.phone 2%
Wifi 2% (turned this off like an hour ago)
Does that seem pretty normal to burn 8% battery in an hour?
If that is good then I will start adding my other emails. I think I have narrowed down the issue to blur having push emails or maybe just blur. Will keep this thread updated.
Thank you.
Honestly, my phone also gets QUITE hot. I guess it's just fail ventilation.
mine gets up to 52`C
Is your phone revving to 9k?
Thanks for the laugh dude. I actually ended up getting rid of Atrix.
I actually have another Atrix with lapdock that I am selling. I think it's time to move on from Atrix
^^I think you've had more Atrix's then the Moto developers themselves. Your an Atrix lover!
S2K_MoZo said:
Hi,
I have been reading a lot of posts by people but did not find an answer yet to problem I am having with Atrix.
I've had like 5 Atrix phones and never had this issue before so I am thinking it might be the phone but need input/opinion on what you guys think.
I have tried CM7, Ronaldo R9, Stock GB, Aura, Alien 4.
I bought this phone used and it was not even rooted.
I unlocked it, rooted it and started messing with it. It was working fine but then I had to mess with it.
No matter what rom I run, it goes from 100% to 40% in around 4 hours without any use.
I have 2 hotmail, 1 exchange, 2 gmail accounts and 1 facebook.
Any suggestions?
I am on stock kernel right now. I used faux kernel and it got even worse.
Any idea on what I might be doing wrong? I am about to sbf 2.2 Froyo to see if that fixes the issue.
Thanks in advance for help guys.
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Try disabling the exchange account for a day and see if if it helps. Some users has earlier reported that exchange was creating problems. If it's not then use watchdog to idnetify the mischievous app which is eating a lot of CPU hence the heat.
CM7 has got rid of all heating issues so there must be something else than the OS itself.
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S2K_MoZo said:
So, I went back to Ronaldo's R9 Rom and been keeping an eye on battery.
I skipped blur setup and just put my gmail account on there that is associated with my contacts and all.
1h 21m 2s on battery, 92% battery life left.
Display 45%
Phone Idle 32%
Cell standby 8%
com.android.inputmethod.latin 4%
Messaging 3%
Voice Calls 2%
Android OS 2%
com.android.phone 2%
Wifi 2% (turned this off like an hour ago)
Does that seem pretty normal to burn 8% battery in an hour?
If that is good then I will start adding my other emails. I think I have narrowed down the issue to blur having push emails or maybe just blur. Will keep this thread updated.
Thank you.
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Your Display has consumed 45% so the behavior is more or less normal. The larger the screen on time larger is the drain.
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Hmmm unlikely but still u wont loose anything by trying. That overheating thing seems like a high overclock thingy cause it has happened to me before with a different phone
So something strange happened this morning. I woke up, just like any other day, i took my phone from my bedstand to check my mail and such, only the phone was off for the first time since i bought it. The battery was drained. Thing is, I fully charged it before i went to bed.
Im running it on battery saver mode, no background data and i had the WiFi off on this particular occasion. Can someone explain to me what just happened. I checked battery usage and it said 65% being used by android OS.
Strange.
EDIT:
I also seem to be getting app crashes, can't access ringtone options and cant get into the native music app...
What is going on...
devilsshadow said:
So something strange happened this morning. I woke up, just like any other day, i took my phone from my bedstand to check my mail and such, only the phone was off for the first time since i bought it. The battery was drained. Thing is, I fully charged it before i went to bed.
Im running it on battery saver mode, no background data and i had the WiFi off on this particular occasion. Can someone explain to me what just happened. I checked battery usage and it said 65% being used by android OS.
Strange.
EDIT:
I also seem to be getting app crashes, can't access ringtone options and cant get into the native music app...
What is going on...
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Can you try reflashing the latest SBF?
I guess I would ask the standard questions like have you recently installed any apps, been flashing anything or removed any system apps. First thing I would do is flash the new SBF update 198_7. This is provided by Yay 4 Juggs and is the official (leaked) update. Don't put on the update that is now out 198_6 cuz it has some issues. You'll find the update in the development section.
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Ok, i got it sorted out. Apparently the battery calibration got messed up and that probably lead to the oh so common Android OS Drain bug. But i had it recalibrated and now it works like a dream again. All is good. Thanks for the help anyway guys, much appreciated!
Mods feel free to close this.
How do you do a battery calibration and what is it?
Thanks
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Battery calibration is required when u flash new rom so as to remove the old rom's bin file containing battery stats..
Download battery calibration app frm market and follo2 instructions..
U can also do it via recovery..charge phone to 100 % and boot into recovery and wipe battery stats..
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Ok, I installed 2.3.6 from AT&T and my bettery life has tanked.
Batter Usage shows the Android OS at 93%!!!
Not using my phone, it is dead in about 7 hours.
Kernel Version
2.6.35.7
Build Number
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
I am not rooted and dont want to root.
HELP!
Tymong said:
Ok, I installed 2.3.6 from AT&T and my bettery life has tanked.
Batter Usage shows the Android OS at 93%!!!
Not using my phone, it is dead in about 7 hours.
Kernel Version
2.6.35.7
Build Number
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
I am not rooted and dont want to root.
HELP!
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You have an app that is driving data to your phone, causing the wifi chip to wake the phone all the time. Apparently a system app - a lot of people have been having this issue with KK6.
Beyond this - sorry, but if you are not rooted you will have to live with it. Identifying what is triggering the wifi interrupts requires obtaining a Wireshark capture, this is not possible without root. Even if a common root cause is found for what's going on with KK6, it's most likely in /system itself so can't be fixed without a custom ROM or at least rooting.
If you're not willing to root, why are you on a firmware developer forum? Have AT&T help you instead if you're on 100% bone stock unrooted.
Well if it's an APP causing it, then many many people must be running the same app cause all of the various forums out there are a lot of people with the battery drain after updating to 2.3.6. Even a lot of my customers have mentioned it also.
I doubt it is an APP doing it. I'd bet it is just some bad coding on Samsung's part. They are probably getting a lot of complaints and are most likely already looking into it.
As far as the why he is here if he doesn't root. Well I don't root as well and have no desire to being as stock works just great. (other than the battery drain)
This is a great place to hang out and keep up on other people using various phones. He posted in the General section, not the Developer's section for this phone. So I think his/her question was valid.
If he was asking the question in the Developers section I would understand your concern. But I don't feel you have to be into cooked ROMS to value this forum.
That's like saying to the people who like the "Fast and the Furious" moves to stop watching them because they have a Chevy and not a pimped up Civic.
Tymong said:
Ok, I installed 2.3.6 from AT&T and my bettery life has tanked.
Batter Usage shows the Android OS at 93%!!!
Not using my phone, it is dead in about 7 hours.
Kernel Version
2.6.35.7
Build Number
GINGERBREAD.UCKK6
I am not rooted and dont want to root.
HELP!
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I'm not rooted with wifi on all the time just got the phone 3 days ago and I'm getting 14-15hrs with no issue down to about 15-20% battery life left before I have to stick back on charger. Could be a bad battery or device, I'm coming over from Sprint after using rooted evo3d and rooted photon.
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The forum is called xda-DEVELOPERS.com
If you don't want to root, you're probably better off in the AT&T support forums, because honestly, it isn't worth our time to try and help someone who doesn't want to root fix a problem that is almost sure to require root access to fix, or in this case, even diagnose.
I do believe many are having this issue after upgrading to kk6 (with same apps installed). I had the issue as well.
May be a system app, or something in /system causing an app to become unhappy.
Either way, it's not going to get fixed without Shark for Root captures from those encountering problems.
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browncarpet said:
I do believe many are having this issue after upgrading to kk6 (with same apps installed). I had the issue as well.
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I don't think it anything to do with KK6. As Entropy said its an app causing a wake lock. I'm run Ingram KK6 without any issues with battery.
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Having this issue as well. Phone is stock. Ive been here since the captivate but I hang around with the sgs2. Never needed to root this phone as it works perfectly for me. But I did the update this morning at 100% charge and 9 hours later with no use it's down to 9%. I could go all day with moderate use and be at 30-40% by the time I go to bed.
I read on a rather long on a google forum that many had this issue after upgrading via ota but who knows. I found that wiping dalvik and flashing unnamed update again I have much better batter life. I did read in update that he reverted to an earlier kernel signature to fix the battery drain.
Im going back to 2.3.4 via this method.
http://galaxys2root.com/att-galaxy-s2/how-to-unroot-att-galaxy-s2-sgh-i777/
Losing 10% of my battery at idle /hour is ridiculous lol. Android os was at 87+% within 3 hours of restart.
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Okay so I did this method. Took about 5 mins after I got everything downloaded. I did not do the factory reset since it's not needed. Phones back to 2.3.4 and nothing was reset. Have all my sms's contacts, aps, wallpapers etc. Battery seems to be back to normal.
I recommend everyone who did that 2.3.6 update to revert back. To many problems with it.
I never entered download mode on this phone before. Just a tip: Keep holding all the buttons till the phone seems like it shuts off and keep holding them till you get into download mode. Do not let go or else it just powers off.
For the purposes of attempting to fix the problem, I really would like some people to take some Shark for Root captures as described in my Known Battery Drainers thread.
With that data, the root cause of the problem might be identifiable.
So far I've only seen one capture, I really need more unless I can reproduce the problem myself.
Entropy512 said:
For the purposes of attempting to fix the problem, I really would like some people to take some Shark for Root captures as described in my Known Battery Drainers thread.
With that data, the root cause of the problem might be identifiable.
So far I've only seen one capture, I really need more unless I can reproduce the problem myself.
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I'm also having battery issues but would like to try to fix it before giving up.
I've searched a bunch but can't find that thread. Not at home to try it on my PC so if you'll link it here, I'll do what I can to get some captures for you.
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[REF] Known identified battery drainers
n7slc said:
I've searched a bunch but can't find that thread. Not at home to try it on my PC so if you'll link it here, I'll do what I can to get some captures for you.
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[REF] Known identified battery drainers
I read a possible solution on another forum and tried it with my SGS2 today and am amazed at the difference today in my battery life.
Worth a shot as it does not require anything more than charging your phone and pulling the battery.
Charge your phone to 100% with the phone off (hold the power button for 3 seconds or so until the menu comes up and select power off). When you reach 100%, unplug the charger and remove your battery (some said keep the battery removed for 90 seconds while others said 3-5 minutes). I left my battery out for 5 minutes or so. Put the battery back in and power on.
That was it. My Android OS went back to normal and the battery life today has been great if not better then with 2.3.6 than before I updated.
Screen grab of my current battery use after trying this method this morning is attached.
radeon962 said:
I read a possible solution on another forum and tried it with my SGS2 today and am amazed at the difference today in my battery life.
Worth a shot as it does not require anything more than charging your phone and pulling the battery.
Charge your phone to 100% with the phone off (hold the power button for 3 seconds or so until the menu comes up and select power off). When you reach 100%, unplug the charger and remove your battery (some said keep the battery removed for 90 seconds while others said 3-5 minutes). I left my battery out for 5 minutes or so. Put the battery back in and power on.
That was it. My Android OS went back to normal and the battery life today has been great if not better then with 2.3.6 than before I updated.
Screen grab of my current battery use after trying this method this morning is attached.
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Placebo effect - did nothing a plain old reboot would not have done.
Entropy512 said:
Placebo effect - did nothing a plain old reboot would not have done.
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Quite possible, but still running on the same charge from this morning and am at 28% battery after 14+ hours of normal use which is all I expect (calls, texts and light web browsing during the day over data) and then couple hours of web use at night over Wi-Fi when at home.
The last few days I was charging the phone when I got home from the office if I wanted to use it at night. Android OS was way up in the 60+ range after I first updated OTA and today it has been under 20% and more near 15%, so I'll take it.
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Come to think, I probably did not do a reboot after the update and could have been all that was needed.
radeon962 said:
I read a possible solution on another forum and tried it with my SGS2 today and am amazed at the difference today in my battery life.
Worth a shot as it does not require anything more than charging your phone and pulling the battery.
Charge your phone to 100% with the phone off (hold the power button for 3 seconds or so until the menu comes up and select power off). When you reach 100%, unplug the charger and remove your battery (some said keep the battery removed for 90 seconds while others said 3-5 minutes). I left my battery out for 5 minutes or so. Put the battery back in and power on.
That was it. My Android OS went back to normal and the battery life today has been great if not better then with 2.3.6 than before I updated.
Screen grab of my current battery use after trying this method this morning is attached.
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I did this and saw absolutely no change. 2.3.6 is draining my battery far faster than 2.3.4 ever did. The culprit is the Android OS running at 90%.
I read that it might be an issue with the wifi so I have turned that off and will report back if that seems to fix it.
I read on another forum that att and Samsung are trying to blame it on bad batteries and shipping out new batteries.
What a bunch of crap. People everywhere wouldn't suddenly all have bad batteries at the same time. Sounds like usual BS.
I personally think its just some bad coding that Samsung needs to figure out.
On a different note, I played with the Verizon Droid Razr yesterday. Man that is a really nice phone. I'm tempted to get it, but I work for att and get free cell service, so it wouldn't make sense to pay for Verizon service, even though I think their network is better.
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chocodough said:
I read on another forum that att and Samsung are trying to blame it on bad batteries and shipping out new batteries.
What a bunch of crap. People everywhere wouldn't suddenly all have bad batteries at the same time. Sounds like usual BS.
I personally think its just some bad coding that Samsung needs to figure out.
On a different note, I played with the Verizon Droid Razr yesterday. Man that is a really nice phone. I'm tempted to get it, but I work for att and get free cell service, so it wouldn't make sense to pay for Verizon service, even though I think their network is better.
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Android OS is definately eating up the battery now. I think it does have to do with wifi, because it seems to be much improved with it off. I'll take a free battery as long as I don't need to exchange the old one.
I'm not sure if other X2's do this, but my battery runs fine. I get a solid 10 hours of hard use out of it.
But lately I noticed that if I simply reboot I get another 20%-50% out of it. Yesterday, it was down to around 30%, restarted, went back up to 80% and drained normally the rest of the night.
Is this normal? Is there a fix or something I can do? I wish I could just get the most out of the battery without having to restart.
I'm just running rooted 2.3.4. I do the whole drain it to 0% once a month thing & fully charge.
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P.S. I'm not making this up. Lol.
2.3.4 is the problem. There is a battery bug in the software where it reports less battery power than you have. Then, when you reboot, it might shoot up 5% to 10%.
Many custom ROMs have a fix in it. Not sure what the fix is or if you can apply it to the stock ROM.
Eclipse 2.0.x has the fix, but it also requires updating to the unofficial 2.3.5 OTA upgrade.
CM7 is based on 2.3.4 kernel and seems to have the issue resolved as well.
I see. Well, thank you for your help. Sorry if this is a repeated topic.
I just got started in the whole root/flashing "scene" so I'll have to see what I can do about CM7 now.
For those that want to stay on the stock rom, the fix is here.
Thanks, I'll try this out later.
I could use it too but the download link is dead. Thanks
Tried using new file from updated link but it would not work. Hung up at installing. Had to pull battery to restart phone. Any ideas?? Thanks
Probably something wrong with Peppermint's script. I have the original one from my phone. You can give it a try if you want.
http://www.mediafire.com/?a52x45m3dou19us
Thanks. It installed OK this time. I'll be checking to see if it makes a difference. Thanks again for the help.
You're welcome. Hope it works for you.
xtel said:
I see. Well, thank you for your help. Sorry if this is a repeated topic.
I just got started in the whole root/flashing "scene" so I'll have to see what I can do about CM7 now.
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I bought my mother an x2, rooted and flashed CM7, she gets around 15 hours on the stock battery.
You will notice a huge change in performance, battery and more while you flash any ROM... Good luck, just follow the tutorials here in the forum.
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Hey can anyone help with my battery prob? I got the extended battery from verizon I wiped battery stats after draining it fully and recharging fully twice. I'm running eclipse 1.3, speedy v7, and the cdma unthrottle mods. For some reason my phone eats this battery faster than my stock battery.
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