After patiently awaiting s-off so that I can install custom roms, splash screens boot animations etc. I find it ironic that HTC doesn't, in part, want the bootloader unlocked so that people won't screw up their phones. In the mean time, our ADD minds have gone the safe route by...
Pulling out T5 torque wrenches to disassemble our phones to change home key color
Tearing the phone apart to repaint it
Playing with QPST which is not a toy at all (talk about f-ing your phone up) to remove the Sprint banner or change the volume
Using PC's to rip out your MSL key to change Wimax or 3G settings (which is much easier to do now thanks to XDA)
Back to QPST... Changing the PRL if we don't like the new one.
Re-rooting 40x when ad free fails (and it does work just glitchy)
Don't get me wrong, all of these ideas are awesome and I have done all except the physical assault on my 3VO... If s-off isn't here soon, Radio Shack here I come! I need all the wrenches and tape and paint you got.
not this again.
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not this again.
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Lol. I hit the save button on that one.
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At this point I don't think anyone cares anymore who is taking their phone back because there's no s-off or some random minor imperfection, and then starting a thread about it explaining why.
Ok, I can see how the post would read the way you took it. My point was more that the xda community is innovative, creative and curious. And when handcuffed by a bootloader, we find other avenues to fill the void. I think its cool as hell. Like kids trapped inside on a rainy day without their xbox. It wasnt a hurry up s-off rant. But it was an observation that some of this stuff is a lot more dangerous than flashing
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Alpharev and team win found s-off, y u no share with world selfish bastards! :rolls eyes:
But for real IPHONE 5 ON SPRINT FTW (hondacop voice)
Ill run the s-off when there's a worthy ROM I can flash. I might wait a week to see what the feedback is before I take the plunge.
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Alpharev and team win found s-off, y u no share with world selfish bastards! :rolls eyes:
But for real IPHONE 5 ON SPRINT FTW (hondacop voice)
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Hondacop FTW!!
And Y U No join huddle yetz?
Randy D said:
After patiently awaiting s-off so that I can install custom roms, splash screens boot animations etc. I find it ironic that HTC doesn't, in part, want the bootloader unlocked so that people won't screw up their phones. In the mean time, our ADD minds have gone the safe route by...
Pulling out T5 torque wrenches to disassemble our phones to change home key color
Tearing the phone apart to repaint it
Playing with QPST which is not a toy at all (talk about f-ing your phone up) to remove the Sprint banner or change the volume
Using PC's to rip out your MSL key to change Wimax or 3G settings (which is much easier to do now thanks to XDA)
Back to QPST... Changing the PRL if we don't like the new one.
Re-rooting 40x when ad free fails (and it does work just glitchy)
Don't get me wrong, all of these ideas are awesome and I have done all except the physical assault on my 3VO... If s-off isn't here soon, Radio Shack here I come! I need all the wrenches and tape and paint you got.
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I already bricked one . But randy if you're not satisfied with waiting, no one is stopping you from learning some code and the 3vo schematics. You can help contribute in the development section for beta testing various ideas and attacks on the bootloader. It helps pass the time lol
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Ill run the s-off when there's a worthy ROM I can flash. I might wait a week to see what the feedback is before I take the plunge.
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You might be waiting longer than a week. Since unrevoked referenced interesting things in the coming weeks on their Twitter, I'd bet we don't see the exploit for at least another week- maybe longer.
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I already bricked one . But randy if you're not satisfied with waiting, no one is stopping you from learning some code and the 3vo schematics. You can help contribute in the development section for beta testing various ideas and attacks on the bootloader. It helps pass the time lol
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Hell yeah, bring those new wrenches , paint and tape and dig in.
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Have done all of above LOL. No brick no nada, just simple perfection with a lil customization
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For the love of all that is HOLY... I am not returning my phone!!! Where did I ever say that??? I learned how to do many things because of the locked bootloader. QPST etc. Things I never would have learned if I was constantly flashing new roms, keyboards changing boot animations... I'm not asking for a hurry up to s-off, I will wait as long as it takes. All I trying to point out, and failing miserabley, in our spare time some of us are doing things to our phones that can screw them up way more than flashing and copy pasting in system/customize/resource. I haven't bricked my phone once and am enjoying playing with the new ideas and programs I never knew were out there. ****, if I was going to cry about phone returns and alpharev crap I'd go to facebook
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You might be waiting longer than a week. Since unrevoked referenced interesting things in the coming weeks on their Twitter, I'd bet we don't see the exploit for at least another week- maybe longer.
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F#@k!!!! And I just ran back and bought the 3D again figuring S-Off was coming this week!!! Do you have the link to that info?
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For the love of all that is HOLY... I am not returning my phone!!! Where did I ever say that??? I learned how to do many things because of the locked bootloader. QPST etc. Things I never would have learned if I was constantly flashing new roms, keyboards changing boot animations... I'm not asking for a hurry up to s-off, I will wait as long as it takes. All I trying to point out, and failing miserabley, in our spare time some of us are doing things to our phones that can screw them up way more than flashing and copy pasting in system/customize/resource. I haven't bricked my phone once and am enjoying playing with the new ideas and programs I never knew were out there. ****, if I was going to cry about phone returns and alpharev crap I'd go to facebook
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I guess they didn't see the "radio shack here I come I'm gonna need all the tape screwdriver etc" part. Lmao. Mabey the radio shack part threw them off. But man this was funny as hell. I had a mental picture of you with the "wtf" face on.
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F#@k!!!! And I just ran back and bought the 3D again figuring S-Off was coming this week!!! Do you have the link to that info?
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https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/unrevoked/status/94186767070142464
Not that this is definitive, of course- just speculation. I don't mind waiting though- the 3d is still the best phone I've ever owned.
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F#@k!!!! And I just ran back and bought the 3D again figuring S-Off was coming this week!!! Do you have the link to that info?
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I thought your heart was set on the next Samsung and how its gonna blow the e3d and any other HTC out of the water, or was that someone else.
Ill be a waiting as long as it takes. This phone is more than worth it. Can't rush a thing of beauty it takes time.
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https://mobile.twitter.com/#!/unrevoked/status/94186767070142464
Not that this is definitive, of course- just speculation. I don't mind waiting though- the 3d is still the best phone I've ever owned.
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Well this junk goes back tuesday.I have a free photon coming on tuesday from sprint to test and keep and after that i get a real phone the SGS2.
this whole ordeal has turned me off.First it was HTC and all the posting asking when when when and then we get a youtube video of S-OFF but since it has been dead.
This phone is nothing special.The screen looks just like the evo if you hold them side by side.Ill be glad to send it back and wait for a real phone.
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You might be waiting longer than a week. Since unrevoked referenced interesting things in the coming weeks on their Twitter, I'd bet we don't see the exploit for at least another week- maybe longer.
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I ment a week after freedom (or whatever its called) drops just to see the feedback just in case there was some unanticipated problems.
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well i finnaly got sick of being throttled by t-mobile. so i decided to go out and buy myself an evo 3d. seeing as how it was the same thing as my htc sensation for the most part. got it home, come to find out some stupid update that i didnt even do prevent me from using the revolutionary method to get s-off. soo i went to the htc site and found out how to unlock the bootloader. after about 2 hours of bull ****ting. and like 3 hours of just downloads (thanks to t mobile for throttled data) i got that. but s is still not off. wtf mates?! if there is any way to get s-off like i had on my sensation let me know please!!
thanks, and hope to make friends with the evo 3d peps like i did the sensation, and vibrant peps!
koz
Sorry, man.
You won't be able to get S-off after using the HTC ethod BUT!, big BUT! :
You can still accomplish everything you'd want to, root-wise.
There are workarounds for everything, that work.
So you'll still be able to Flash a custom Rom, a kernel, a Radio, with full root...
You just have to do a couple of more simple steps and use the bootloader for a couple things. There are threads in the Dev section that can walk you through it. (edit: like this one, lol:http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...Recovery + Root + Flash Ur Ass Off! [9.11.11]
So basically the S-on you see isn't really that "on" as you might've initially thought.
That's a good thing, man.
LIKES:
drinking water, smoking flower, and avoiding the giant.
yeah.
I'd rather not use the htc method at all. I liked the ability to just flash custom roms or kernels from my phone and not have to be attached to the computer.
HTCs method allows things to be done. Its just not a great way of doing it.
I'm hoping that alpharevx and unrevoked are continuing to work on updates to the revolutionary tool they released earlier this year.
yea true that. im tempted to do an insurance claim on it. just get a new one and start over
how would you go about doing an insurance claim?
I had mine replaced in store last week, ended up with 1.5
enjoy the wait..
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Just give it some time.
I don't understand why people can't just wait on root. Maybe I never used root to its full potential but jeez, it ain't something we can't be without. Root Will come for ur version of hboot just like it did for all of us.
Not a personal attack on u op it is just a general opinion of mine. I waited with no problems from launch day to get root. Then two-three weeks after teamwin came out just to watch for bugs. It's nice to have all the customized roms and all but really what does it do for u other than free tether.
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Just give it some time.
I don't understand why people can't just wait on root. Maybe I never used root to its full potential but jeez, it ain't something we can't be without. Root Will come for ur version of hboot just like it did for all of us.
Not a personal attack on u op it is just a general opinion of mine. I waited with no problems from launch day to get root. Then two-three weeks after teamwin came out just to watch for bugs. It's nice to have all the customized roms and all but really what does it do for u other than free tether.
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You clearly have absolutely no idea on the capabilities of a rooted phone. Don't fill this guys head with your misguided opinion.
I personally feel they will release and updated version of Revolutionary . The only reason I say this is mainly due to two factors . One I have seen numerous posts regarding the HTC method not working all the time and having to RUU the phone back just for the damn thing will work . Second more and more phones are now showing up with 1.50 Hboot on them . 1.30 and 1.40 is now quickly becoming a thing of the past . Just like with unrevoked an eventual exploit will be found and hopefully Revolutionary will update accordingly . Hopefully .
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You clearly have absolutely no idea on the capabilities of a rooted phone. Don't fill this guys head with your misguided opinion.
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Maybe not.
Flashing roms is all I ever do. I have been using rooted phones for a while. I have used little tweaks here and there but nothing that blows me away.
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Maybe not.
Flashing roms is all I ever do. I have been using rooted phones for a while. I have used little tweaks here and there but nothing that blows me away.
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The real payoff is when a new version of android is released! And you get to use it for months before unrooted people!
I love root access to death and thoroughly enjoy tweaking my phone. But from launch day to when revolutionary hit I was forced to be stock. This was the first phone that I've had/used that was absolutely fine stock. It's fast, smooth, kick ass battery and everything worked great(GPS etc).
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The real payoff is when a new version of android is released! And you get to use it for months before unrooted people!
I love root access to death and thoroughly enjoy tweaking my phone. But from launch day to when revolutionary hit I was forced to be stock. This was the first phone that I've had/used that was absolutely fine stock. It's fast, smooth, kick ass battery and everything worked great(GPS etc).
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Totaly agree. I love using rooted phones. I'm just saying that it is not anything I can't wait on.
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I like running all the different ROMs people have posted here.
Stock is nice and I do like sense. But I also like running CM7. I liked several of the custom ROMs.
root is good too
Wonder if next revolutionary will be released with next TWRP? just guessing....
Save your insurance claim. Everything will work out, as long as you can be patient. It's $100 incentive, basically, if you have Sprint's insurance.
To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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fernando sor said:
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
So after roughly a week and few days my 3vo which I had only two days with before sending in, is coming back with all new front assembly, very excited! Now I'm curious I have not gottena chance to root this phone but I do know it is on 1.5 hboot will that be a serious problem or is there a decent work around?
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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thizzlemania91 said:
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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you might throw up during the process though.
But it'll be a good puke! You'll feel refreshed and accomplished.
PatrickHuey said:
you might throw up during the process though.
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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Realize you are excited OP, but did you need another thread for your repair story?
Here is link to downgrade hboot when you do get it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Wolf Counselor said:
Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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After coming from rooting my LG (press a button in superonclick to root, then running a batch file to put on CWM), the htc is a mega pain to get access.
The common theme I've noticed after being in 3 different sub-forums is that all users complain about the manufacturers not releasing code. I'm not surprised the companies don't but it makes everything so hard. So just realise it isn't just HTC being a pain it's pretty much every company.
Very glad that there is hope for 1.5's Hbooters I do wonder what hboot version HTC will try to enforce on the E3D when ICS comes via OTA.
About damn time.
http://www.htcdev.com/devcenter/downloads
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And right as it was figured out how to use 1.15 kernels on 2.04
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Heck yes! There is more hope!
Bigandrewgold said:
And right as it was figured out how to use 1.15 kernels on 2.04
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Funny how that works, huh?
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Haha I was coming here to post it. HTC just tweeted me saying it was released.
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Haha I was coming here to post it. HTC just tweeted me saying it was released.
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Yeah I saw it on twitter too.
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What does this mean for the DNA scene? Does it increase our chances at finding a post-OTA unlock method, or is it more useful for ROM/custom feature development purposes?
CNordy said:
What does this mean for the DNA scene? Does it increase our chances at finding a post-OTA unlock method, or is it more useful for ROM/custom feature development purposes?
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From what I gather it's possible, though not likely there is an exploit for post OTA unlock in the source. It will help development in that 2.04 ROMS such as Viper1.2 will soon have compatible custom kernels whenever the developers of their respective kernels update them.
I suppose there can be other possible benefits but I have not heard anyone mention them.
Kernel source won't help bootloader unlock.
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Ah, My mistake, thought I remember someone saying it was possible there was something helpful in there.
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Ah, My mistake, thought I remember someone saying it was possible there was something helpful in there.
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For some reason one guy essentially spammed every thread he could find saying that somehow kernel source=bootloader unlock, but that is completely untrue.
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For some reason one guy essentially spammed every thread he could find saying that somehow kernel source=bootloader unlock, but that is completely untrue.
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Dang. I was hoping this would be true.
My wife's dna took a swim. Had to cash out her another. (crossed fingers for non ota) but I lost.
She wanted dna even after I warned her it was probably unrootable. She said Dna. Well a few days later she is yelling @ me to fix this garbage lol.
Crud. Looks like jtag. Is in her future
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Dang. I was hoping this would be true.
My wife's dna took a swim. Had to cash out her another. (crossed fingers for non ota) but I lost.
She wanted dna even after I warned her it was probably unrootable. She said Dna. Well a few days later she is yelling @ me to fix this garbage lol.
Crud. Looks like jtag. Is in her future
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Garbage I would probably love my DNA even stock. I would just have an itch to tinker with it because that's who I am... but if she isn't the one tinkering, I don't see what her problem is
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Not exactly true. May help. Most likely though, it will not.
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Garbage I would probably love my DNA even stock. I would just have an itch to tinker with it because that's who I am... but if she isn't the one tinkering, I don't see what her problem is
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I guess she is used to stellar battery life, not having all the bloat, being over clocked and fast as all get out on Viper rom.
The area she works gets better signal with old radio's while I get better with new radio's??
No wife tether
Missing a few root only apps, missing data since she can't restore.
Look don't take offense. This phone is great, but when you get used to certain things is hard to go back.
That's all
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I guess she is used to stellar battery life, not having all the bloat, being over clocked and fast as all get out on Viper rom.
The area she works gets better signal with old radio's while I get better with new radio's??
No wife tether
Missing a few root only apps, missing data since she can't restore.
Look don't take offense. This phone is great, but when you get used to certain things is hard to go back.
That's all
Signed with the blood of my DNA
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lol No offense at all. Just most women don't desire their phones to be tinkered with, at least from what I've seen. I had to spend a long minute convincing my girlfriend to tinker with hers
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lol No offense at all. Just most women don't desire their phones to be tinkered with, at least from what I've seen. I had to spend a long minute convincing my girlfriend to tinker with hers
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Lol. Yup years back with the DROID 2 I went threw the same thing with my wife.
Now as soon as we get a new Andy she hands it over for pimping.
And sorry, I have just saw a few arguments over this topic and was trying to avoid it
But ya my girls pretty much amazing.
Signed with the blood of my DNA
shizumie said:
Lol. Yup years back with the DROID 2 I went threw the same thing with my wife.
Now as soon as we get a new Andy she hands it over for pimping.
And sorry, I have just saw a few arguments over this topic and was trying to avoid it
But ya my girls pretty much amazing.
Signed with the blood of my DNA
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Unfortunately mine uses her phone, a One X+, for work [and it was given to her by her company] so unless it becomes unusable, I don't get to play with it
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No wife tether
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Wait a minute, your wife wants you to root her DNA so you can put a "wife tether" on it?
that might be TMI
jasoraso said:
Wait a minute, your wife wants you to root her DNA so you can put a "wife tether" on it?
that might be TMI
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BWAHAHAHA
Signed with the blood of my DNA
So im coming from a nexus. Its a good phone and all but I figure I'd try HTC for once. I got it for $99 on Amazon. Abby way what's the statue on root or a boot loader unlock. Also what's the difference in the a nexus is vs the dna. Also is there anything I should know or do when I receive my new device. Thanks for the help
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saintlikesniper said:
So im coming from a nexus. Its a good phone and all but I figure I'd try HTC for once. I got it for $99 on Amazon. Abby way what's the statue on root or a boot loader unlock. Also what's the difference in the a nexus is vs the dna. Also is there anything I should know or do when I receive my new device. Thanks for the help
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The DNA is an awesome phone; however, if your phone comes with the newest update from HTC on it, be aware, there is currently software-based (free) method to unlock bootloader or modify the phone at all. Users with updated phones that were not previously unlocked have had to resort to JTAG service (something like $45 plus shipping) to have the phone S-OFF'ed (Radio S-OFF - Means you can flash whatever you please (even more so with the engineering bootloader flashed)).
If the phone prompts you for an update, DON'T DO IT! If the phone is already updated, you either wait and hope for someone to find a vulnerability, pay for JTAG service, or use the phone stock (still a good phone, but no root).
Good luck!
saintlikesniper said:
So im coming from a nexus. Its a good phone and all but I figure I'd try HTC for once. I got it for $99 on Amazon. Abby way what's the statue on root or a boot loader unlock. Also what's the difference in the a nexus is vs the dna. Also is there anything I should know or do when I receive my new device. Thanks for the help
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Root/Bootloader status:
firmware 1.x - fully blown open
firmware 2.x - locked tighter that a dolphin's butthole.
It will probably come with the 2.x software. I would recommend using the JTAG service provided here:
http://mobiletechvideos.mybigcommerce.com/htc-droid-dna-dlx-jtag-s-off-modification-service/
Difference between a nexus and the dna... A world.
The gnex was made to open from the beginning. Running one fastboot command opened the entire floodgate, plus odin is an awesome tool for samsung devices. HTC devices have more parts that need to be cracked to have the same openess as the nexus. Right now 2.x firmware means you are running stock only (no root or anything). I'm coming from the gnex and was willing to pay for the jtag service because although I love the dev's work on this phone, I don't want to rely on them for everything.
Hope this helps.
Alright now what about things like supercid or HTC dev. Also if we can unlock the boot loader then why is s-off important. Or can we not unlock the boot loader on 2.xx
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saintlikesniper said:
Alright now what about things like supercid or HTC dev. Also if we can unlock the boot loader then why is s-off important. Or can we not unlock the boot loader on 2.xx
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Read the threads.
No HTCdev, no unlock of bootloader of any kind currently.
Oh okay so I read that wrong. So we can't even downgrade to a previous version or that requires root and an unlocked bootloader. Also if my device is on 2.x no root goodness for me huh?
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saintlikesniper said:
Oh okay so I read that wrong. So we can't even downgrade to a previous version or that requires root and an unlocked bootloader. Also if my device is on 2.x no root goodness for me huh?
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No. You are stuck stock just like I am until someone figures it out. If they figure it out. Or you could pay the 45.00 for the JTAG s-off.
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No. You are stuck stock just like I am until someone figures it out. If they figure it out. Or you could pay the 45.00 for the JTAG s-off.
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It's so worth it
Zarboz said:
It's so worth it
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Ugh, I might just have to do it. My wife thinks I'm retarded, but what does SHE know being she doesn't have the staff of logic and intelligence. :laugh:
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Ugh, I might just have to do it. My wife thinks I'm retarded, but what does SHE know being she doesn't have the staff of logic and intelligence. :laugh:
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I think your wife and my wife might know each other....
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Ugh, I might just have to do it. My wife thinks I'm retarded, but what does SHE know being she doesn't have the staff of logic and intelligence. :laugh:
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Women can justify buying the same damn shoes and clothes in different shades of the same color, getsing jtagged should not be questioned.
And then oddly enough they complain when they see another in the same dress. Exclaiming how she stole her idea. Not even thinking she just might have the same taste in clothes but oh no that "B**** better get out that dress 'cause I wore it first"
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Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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Made it interesting.
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Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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You said what most of us think when we ponder a purchase that has to be approved by the gatekeeper/wife.
haha no comments on the women stuff i think you understand why hahaha
Like other post, i would say know that you will not have root for a bit and cm 10.1 is not done yet...but will be soon. You can go for JTAG or stick with stock or use nova launcher temporarily. The battery life is pretty decent but nothing crazy 4 hours of screen time-ish on stock. i usually get enough battery for 1 day and a few hours. Oh, fastboot will prevent a full restart of your phone so might want to disable that...and yea just look around settings. there are ways to increase battery and stuff. for example, there is a settings in wifi that allows it to auto turn off and use data unless you start using your phone. I think its a great device even through its a bit big for my taste, and i don't like stock much. Hope you enjoy your phone! I can't wait to get root and cm 10.1 on my phone. ^_^
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haha no comments on the women stuff i think you understand why hahaha
Like other post, i would say know that you will not have root for a bit and cm 10.1 is not done yet...but will be soon. You can go for JTAG or stick with stock or use nova launcher temporarily. The battery life is pretty decent but nothing crazy 4 hours of screen time-ish on stock. i usually get enough battery for 1 day and a few hours. Oh, fastboot will prevent a full restart of your phone so might want to disable that...and yea just look around settings. there are ways to increase battery and stuff. for example, there is a settings in wifi that allows it to auto turn off and use data unless you start using your phone. I think its a great device even through its a bit big for my taste, and i don't like stock much. Hope you enjoy your phone! I can't wait to get root and cm 10.1 on my phone. ^_^
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I don't know what it is with me but I'm honestly tired of using CM and AOSP for awhile. I've been enjoying Viper so that I can still get a breath of fresh air from Sense... even though most don't appreciate Sense. Honestly wish I could put a Sense variant on my N7 too just to change it up.
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Lol, what have I done to the thread?
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BAD DOG! *rubs your nose in it*
Yeah I know what you vanilla gets bland for awhile. I can't get past two hours screen time on my nexus. And that's with the extended battery. At least sense is adding sprinkles and chocolate syrup to vanilla. Anyways what about face palm or whatever. Anyway my device will be here Monday thinks for the info I've only had Motorola and Samsung phones so HTC is a breath of fresh air
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I don't know what it is with me but I'm honestly tired of using CM and AOSP for awhile. I've been enjoying Viper so that I can still get a breath of fresh air from Sense... even though most don't appreciate Sense. Honestly wish I could put a Sense variant on my N7 too just to change it up.
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Same here. I love CM and AOSP/AOKP, but I tire of them pretty quick. I honestly don't understand the HTC Sense hate some people have. If it was that bad then everyone wouldn't be trying to find widgets that looked like the sense widgets on CM/AOSP. Sense is a really nice looking UI and their widgets are second to none.
I'm pretty much decided on sending out my DNA to be JTAG'd. How long can I expect to be without a phone? I think i'll be stuck using my rezound with just google voice.