My 3vo is coming back tomorrow! - HTC EVO 3D

So after roughly a week and few days my 3vo which I had only two days with before sending in, is coming back with all new front assembly, very excited! Now I'm curious I have not gottena chance to root this phone but I do know it is on 1.5 hboot will that be a serious problem or is there a decent work around?

Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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thizzlemania91 said:
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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you might throw up during the process though.

But it'll be a good puke! You'll feel refreshed and accomplished.

PatrickHuey said:
you might throw up during the process though.
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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Realize you are excited OP, but did you need another thread for your repair story?
Here is link to downgrade hboot when you do get it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695

Wolf Counselor said:
Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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After coming from rooting my LG (press a button in superonclick to root, then running a batch file to put on CWM), the htc is a mega pain to get access.
The common theme I've noticed after being in 3 different sub-forums is that all users complain about the manufacturers not releasing code. I'm not surprised the companies don't but it makes everything so hard. So just realise it isn't just HTC being a pain it's pretty much every company.
Very glad that there is hope for 1.5's Hbooters I do wonder what hboot version HTC will try to enforce on the E3D when ICS comes via OTA.

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sad koz is sad. no s-off?!

well i finnaly got sick of being throttled by t-mobile. so i decided to go out and buy myself an evo 3d. seeing as how it was the same thing as my htc sensation for the most part. got it home, come to find out some stupid update that i didnt even do prevent me from using the revolutionary method to get s-off. soo i went to the htc site and found out how to unlock the bootloader. after about 2 hours of bull ****ting. and like 3 hours of just downloads (thanks to t mobile for throttled data) i got that. but s is still not off. wtf mates?! if there is any way to get s-off like i had on my sensation let me know please!!
thanks, and hope to make friends with the evo 3d peps like i did the sensation, and vibrant peps!
koz
Sorry, man.
You won't be able to get S-off after using the HTC ethod BUT!, big BUT! :
You can still accomplish everything you'd want to, root-wise.
There are workarounds for everything, that work.
So you'll still be able to Flash a custom Rom, a kernel, a Radio, with full root...
You just have to do a couple of more simple steps and use the bootloader for a couple things. There are threads in the Dev section that can walk you through it. (edit: like this one, lol:http://forum.xda-developers.com/sho...Recovery + Root + Flash Ur Ass Off! [9.11.11]
So basically the S-on you see isn't really that "on" as you might've initially thought.
That's a good thing, man.
LIKES:
drinking water, smoking flower, and avoiding the giant.
yeah.
I'd rather not use the htc method at all. I liked the ability to just flash custom roms or kernels from my phone and not have to be attached to the computer.
HTCs method allows things to be done. Its just not a great way of doing it.
I'm hoping that alpharevx and unrevoked are continuing to work on updates to the revolutionary tool they released earlier this year.
yea true that. im tempted to do an insurance claim on it. just get a new one and start over
how would you go about doing an insurance claim?
I had mine replaced in store last week, ended up with 1.5
enjoy the wait..
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Just give it some time.
I don't understand why people can't just wait on root. Maybe I never used root to its full potential but jeez, it ain't something we can't be without. Root Will come for ur version of hboot just like it did for all of us.
Not a personal attack on u op it is just a general opinion of mine. I waited with no problems from launch day to get root. Then two-three weeks after teamwin came out just to watch for bugs. It's nice to have all the customized roms and all but really what does it do for u other than free tether.
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Just give it some time.
I don't understand why people can't just wait on root. Maybe I never used root to its full potential but jeez, it ain't something we can't be without. Root Will come for ur version of hboot just like it did for all of us.
Not a personal attack on u op it is just a general opinion of mine. I waited with no problems from launch day to get root. Then two-three weeks after teamwin came out just to watch for bugs. It's nice to have all the customized roms and all but really what does it do for u other than free tether.
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You clearly have absolutely no idea on the capabilities of a rooted phone. Don't fill this guys head with your misguided opinion.
I personally feel they will release and updated version of Revolutionary . The only reason I say this is mainly due to two factors . One I have seen numerous posts regarding the HTC method not working all the time and having to RUU the phone back just for the damn thing will work . Second more and more phones are now showing up with 1.50 Hboot on them . 1.30 and 1.40 is now quickly becoming a thing of the past . Just like with unrevoked an eventual exploit will be found and hopefully Revolutionary will update accordingly . Hopefully .
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You clearly have absolutely no idea on the capabilities of a rooted phone. Don't fill this guys head with your misguided opinion.
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Maybe not.
Flashing roms is all I ever do. I have been using rooted phones for a while. I have used little tweaks here and there but nothing that blows me away.
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Maybe not.
Flashing roms is all I ever do. I have been using rooted phones for a while. I have used little tweaks here and there but nothing that blows me away.
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The real payoff is when a new version of android is released! And you get to use it for months before unrooted people!
I love root access to death and thoroughly enjoy tweaking my phone. But from launch day to when revolutionary hit I was forced to be stock. This was the first phone that I've had/used that was absolutely fine stock. It's fast, smooth, kick ass battery and everything worked great(GPS etc).
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The real payoff is when a new version of android is released! And you get to use it for months before unrooted people!
I love root access to death and thoroughly enjoy tweaking my phone. But from launch day to when revolutionary hit I was forced to be stock. This was the first phone that I've had/used that was absolutely fine stock. It's fast, smooth, kick ass battery and everything worked great(GPS etc).
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Totaly agree. I love using rooted phones. I'm just saying that it is not anything I can't wait on.
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I like running all the different ROMs people have posted here.
Stock is nice and I do like sense. But I also like running CM7. I liked several of the custom ROMs.
root is good too
Wonder if next revolutionary will be released with next TWRP? just guessing....
Save your insurance claim. Everything will work out, as long as you can be patient. It's $100 incentive, basically, if you have Sprint's insurance.

Possible S-Off? (Probably not)

To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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fernando sor said:
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?

New EVO 3D, root or wait?

So I will hopefully be replacing my EVO 3D with a crooked screen with a new replacement either today or tomorrow. Should I root with the HTC method or wait for an unofficial root method?
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LostRib said:
So I will hopefully be replacing my EVO 3D with a crooked screen with a new replacement either today or tomorrow. Should I root with the HTC method or wait for an unofficial root method?
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Considering the HTC unlock method has been released since roughly August and we find ourselves now in January with essentially 5 months have passed without an unofficial root method .. I would probably lean towards not counting on an unofficial root method.
Haven't seen any new information from Unrevoked or AlphaRevX regarding work on the EVO 3D as I'm sure there are some devices in existence which don't have any unlock method that might garner more attention ...
Most of that is just opinion and speculation based on personal experience. Might not be worth anything but figured I'd post an answer in the hope it might help! Good luck!
I know the only way now is the HTC method im holding out alil longer till someone comes out with a better method. I don't really want HTC knowing im rooted with the way they have it set up. Nothing is wrong going there route with it other then you warranty with them being void to a certain point.
Sprint doesn't seem to mind.
In due time there will be a root in a better way .
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I know the only way now is the HTC method im holding out alil longer till someone comes out with a better method. I don't really want HTC knowing im rooted with the way they have it set up. Nothing is wrong going there route with it other then you warranty with them being void to a certain point.
Sprint doesn't seem to mind.
In due time there will be a root in a better way .
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Although I've talked about replacing a phone through HTC warranty and they said it would take 2 weeks which is just ridiculous. Not sure the HTC warranty is even worth it
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Although I've talked about replacing a phone through HTC warranty and they said it would take 2 weeks which is just ridiculous. Not sure the HTC warranty is even worth it
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I know what you mean about that. Happy sprint isn't picky about rooted phones or the TEP.
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I know what you mean about that. Happy sprint isn't picky about rooted phones or the TEP.
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That's good to know. I think TEP covers just about everything
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That's good to know. I think TEP covers just about everything
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I dunno why HTC want's to control things maybe for ideas and to make money lol.
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I dunno why HTC want's to control things maybe for ideas and to make money lol.
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Has anyone actually used HTC warranty over sprint insurance?
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Has anyone actually used HTC warranty over sprint insurance?
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Im gonna go there root way I took a update on my unrooted evo 3d and the carrier IQ thing is back on my phone along with HTC logger.
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Im gonna go there root way I took a update on my unrooted evo 3d and the carrier IQ thing is back on my phone along with HTC logger.
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Don't care about HTC knowing?
I just got a replacement evo and its 1.5 ..... I am going to root with their method because i would rather them know I'm rooted then my every move .....
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i got so sick of waiting for REAL ROOT i sold my shooter wit 1.50 hboot and baught a used 1.40 hboot.. now im back to being a happy camper!!!)
Even with having the 1.5 hboot, you are still able to flash roms and kernels without issues, just have to do it in a different way.
If your a person that enjoys the challenge (should be the quality of anyone who roots) you'll see past the issues and roll with the punches unrolled an easy way comes along.
Remember people, if your hear, you don't want it the easy way. You don't want to have everything done for you, find joy in getting your hands dirty and doing something challenging.
BTW, yes I have an EVO 3D WITH 1.5 HBOOT and everything is business as usual in the flashing department
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How easy was it to root?
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How easy was it to root?
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took me 10 min after reading the instructions, and more because I don't use Windows (Linux only) so I had to load up my VM for some things. But the unlocking of the Bootstrap and the rooting process is quick.
Yes having S-Off is a huge difference, but just because I don't have it doesn't mean that my life with the phone ends there. I can still flash kernels, ROMs and anything 1.4 hboot could do, I just have to load recovery via fastboot and I'm all set.
Yes, maybe I can't use ROM manager to make my life easy, and maybe to flash I will always be (for now) tied to having to use a computer for better results, but in reality, what?? I have access to a computer most of the time, and if I don't, I wait because or I may be in the field doing training or something else and I don't want to invest my time in flashing at all.
Another way is that if you don't want to use the computer just remove the boot.img from the zip (I believe its that one) file of the ROM your wanting to flash and I believe this should let you flash right from Recovery and then you can access fastboot to flash the Kernel side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422066
Definitely S-OFF though. I think you can use Revolutionary if you're on hboot 1.4. It's been so long since I've rooted...
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How about nadroid backup and restore functionality on hb 1.5 i mean i assume we would run into issues with this if we want to restore to a previous version of a rom with a non stock kernel.
Sometimes i go flash happy and end up with a boot loop situation but all is usually well because i just wipe and restore.
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How about nadroid backup and restore functionality on hb 1.5 i mean i assume we would run into issues with this if we want to restore to a previous version of a rom with a non stock kernel.
Sometimes i go flash happy and end up with a boot loop situation but all is usually well because i just wipe and restore.
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I believe you would have to backup everything except the boot area. You would have to flash the kernel first before restoring the backup.
Note: I haven't tested this, but simple logic says it should work. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21082065
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Looking at getting new Evo 3D, what are the drawbacks?

Looking at selling my Evo 3D to a buddy and I would like to get a newer one, ie no scratches. I wanted to ask what are the repercussions of going with a newer 3vo; in terms of rooting. Also are they still somewhat the same; nothing has been changed (maybe BOOT version?)
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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kiewee3 said:
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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Please explain about the new hboot. IIRC My hboot was the hardest to do, now you're telling me the new one is harder? I don't just want to get a new phone, I want to get my buddy out of his clamshell...yes he has a clamshell.
I haven't rooted on mine yet, only because I don't have the time to be on down-time while I root. Especially since I have never rooted before. So learning curve taken into account.
I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Refresh my memory on the wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
Evo-3D said:
Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Hboot 1.58 can be s-off by wire trick, someone has try and confirmed, try to read on jopunotbear thread.
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Ok I'm getting do and don'ts from this thread. I'm going to let it linger and see what others have to say. I would really like to get my buddy into the 21st century. So lets hope I get more do than don'ts.
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it has proper hardware. 1gb ram and dual core withc can be overclocked to over 1.8ghz.
you got an "more than ok" from me. take a look at the price (vs. sensation) - it has better hardware, lol (MSM8660)
just buy it . you won't regret IF YOU WILL USE COSTOM ROM
s-on?what's so bad about that? use 4ext with smartflash...
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That the thing, I've always wanted to root my phone, so I want to make certain that I can root a newer 3VO.
sorry for the missunderstanding. you may be able to s-off a newer hboot. im not sure though

HTC one phones getting jelly bean!! this month!

so i assume the way everything has been going we will get it in 2 months
http://www.androidcentral.com/htc-deliver-jelly-bean-and-sense-4-upgrade-one-s-x-and-xl-month
Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Even if we get it, I'm still not not updating. Not until I have S-OFF...
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Idk about "we" as in evo lte, but yes, one x and one s will...sprints probably going to be late, but I'm sure we can depend on the developers to pull something when its released
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Very cool! Can't wait for JB! Sad how the OneX+ doesn't have 2gb Ram and 1080p screen....
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Well from the history of this phone and one x we have been getting the updates about a month after...one can hope
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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I hope the focus on fixing the LTE issue with these phones before worrying about JB.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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Yeah, but only fixes to problems. Nothing like this yet. We'll see if they pull through. Like I said though, either way, I'll be waiting for S-OFF.
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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That was supposed to be addressed in the last update. What problems are you having?
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The LTE threshold issue on the EVO LTE.
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I heard that if you have soff your phone can make you pb&j sandwiches.
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So that is why I wake up every morning with a sandwich next to my bed!
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shook187 said:
Tell me about it. People have a fascination with S-off, thinking their phones will magically start doing something they haven't already been doing.
People listen and wake up, we can do the same thing people as people with s-off do. We just have to go about it a different way.
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bog3nator said:
people that are stuck in s-on land (for now) make it sound like there phone is stuck in some sort of world where you cant do anything...you can still get updated radio, flash kernels and roms. hell awesome sauce kernel uses an s-on installer so you can flash in recovery, meanrom you can flash and it will flash the kernel for you (in recovery). to update your radio just relock, ruu, unlock, root, install...done! :cyclops: it is a few extra steps but your phone is not rendered usless...and all this talk i think is starting to scare people that it is. (just my 2 cents) flame on!
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Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
eXplicit815 said:
Look, it's not that I'm stuck in some mindset that S-OFF is the key to everything. I understand that I can go through the HTCdev method, but I choose not to. My preference is S-OFF.
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So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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bog3nator said:
So you will just not root your phone till you get s-off? Bc when the phone first came out all there was, was HTC dev unlock. Sitting with stock Rom is no fun...
And if you are not rooted or rooted it maybe a few version of android before soff comes out (if it does) which will keep you on old software and really not take advantage of new goodies
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I get what you're saying. But my preference is to have S-OFF. I don't have to update right now. I'm sitting on 1.15, and just waiting. Granted, there are features that I'm looking for from Jelly Bean that I want to have, which is why I want to root my phone. But, if Jelly Bean comes before we get an S-OFF method, then I may just update and let it go to whatever is there. I'd prefer to have S-OFF though. That's how I've gone with my EVO 3D, so I'm accustomed to that method.
I understand, it is "easier" but there are a lot of people on xda now thinking it us the end if the world ... All I want people to understand is that there are work arounds. To each their own
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I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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scottspa74 said:
I can understand people not wanting to update due to S-on. I mean, OTA update or running RUU to update firmware will also update hboot, which someone who's been hanging in there praying 1.15 is almost cracked,..well the last thing they're gonna wanna do is update hboot.
Hell, accepting S-on and the workarounds may be the only thing to do. With the amount of hboot updates HTC is releasing, I have to imagine anyone working on S-off has probably already just thrown up their hands.
I'm S-off, but still haven't updated radio or firmware due to the fact that at this point, downgrading bricks.
Sorry for OT
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The fact that HTC has updated the HBoot 3 times since the release of the phone doesn't make things difficult. If anything, it would indicate that HTC is finding holes in their HBoot, and just patching them as they update the software. There are a lot of people sitting on 1.15 right now waiting for something to happen. I'm sure there's someone working on cracking it, it's just a matter of time, and how many people are possibly working on it. I'd like to think that there is someone working on it, but it's still not being put out there that it actually is by anyone. That's what people are all up in arms about.
Not necessarily, they may be adding extra support for in-house development, adding support for extra hardware, or they could be just cleaning up the code from the last update

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