So I will hopefully be replacing my EVO 3D with a crooked screen with a new replacement either today or tomorrow. Should I root with the HTC method or wait for an unofficial root method?
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LostRib said:
So I will hopefully be replacing my EVO 3D with a crooked screen with a new replacement either today or tomorrow. Should I root with the HTC method or wait for an unofficial root method?
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Considering the HTC unlock method has been released since roughly August and we find ourselves now in January with essentially 5 months have passed without an unofficial root method .. I would probably lean towards not counting on an unofficial root method.
Haven't seen any new information from Unrevoked or AlphaRevX regarding work on the EVO 3D as I'm sure there are some devices in existence which don't have any unlock method that might garner more attention ...
Most of that is just opinion and speculation based on personal experience. Might not be worth anything but figured I'd post an answer in the hope it might help! Good luck!
I know the only way now is the HTC method im holding out alil longer till someone comes out with a better method. I don't really want HTC knowing im rooted with the way they have it set up. Nothing is wrong going there route with it other then you warranty with them being void to a certain point.
Sprint doesn't seem to mind.
In due time there will be a root in a better way .
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I know the only way now is the HTC method im holding out alil longer till someone comes out with a better method. I don't really want HTC knowing im rooted with the way they have it set up. Nothing is wrong going there route with it other then you warranty with them being void to a certain point.
Sprint doesn't seem to mind.
In due time there will be a root in a better way .
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Although I've talked about replacing a phone through HTC warranty and they said it would take 2 weeks which is just ridiculous. Not sure the HTC warranty is even worth it
LostRib said:
Although I've talked about replacing a phone through HTC warranty and they said it would take 2 weeks which is just ridiculous. Not sure the HTC warranty is even worth it
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I know what you mean about that. Happy sprint isn't picky about rooted phones or the TEP.
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I know what you mean about that. Happy sprint isn't picky about rooted phones or the TEP.
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That's good to know. I think TEP covers just about everything
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That's good to know. I think TEP covers just about everything
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I dunno why HTC want's to control things maybe for ideas and to make money lol.
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I dunno why HTC want's to control things maybe for ideas and to make money lol.
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Has anyone actually used HTC warranty over sprint insurance?
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Has anyone actually used HTC warranty over sprint insurance?
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Im gonna go there root way I took a update on my unrooted evo 3d and the carrier IQ thing is back on my phone along with HTC logger.
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Im gonna go there root way I took a update on my unrooted evo 3d and the carrier IQ thing is back on my phone along with HTC logger.
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Don't care about HTC knowing?
I just got a replacement evo and its 1.5 ..... I am going to root with their method because i would rather them know I'm rooted then my every move .....
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i got so sick of waiting for REAL ROOT i sold my shooter wit 1.50 hboot and baught a used 1.40 hboot.. now im back to being a happy camper!!!)
Even with having the 1.5 hboot, you are still able to flash roms and kernels without issues, just have to do it in a different way.
If your a person that enjoys the challenge (should be the quality of anyone who roots) you'll see past the issues and roll with the punches unrolled an easy way comes along.
Remember people, if your hear, you don't want it the easy way. You don't want to have everything done for you, find joy in getting your hands dirty and doing something challenging.
BTW, yes I have an EVO 3D WITH 1.5 HBOOT and everything is business as usual in the flashing department
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How easy was it to root?
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LostRib said:
How easy was it to root?
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took me 10 min after reading the instructions, and more because I don't use Windows (Linux only) so I had to load up my VM for some things. But the unlocking of the Bootstrap and the rooting process is quick.
Yes having S-Off is a huge difference, but just because I don't have it doesn't mean that my life with the phone ends there. I can still flash kernels, ROMs and anything 1.4 hboot could do, I just have to load recovery via fastboot and I'm all set.
Yes, maybe I can't use ROM manager to make my life easy, and maybe to flash I will always be (for now) tied to having to use a computer for better results, but in reality, what?? I have access to a computer most of the time, and if I don't, I wait because or I may be in the field doing training or something else and I don't want to invest my time in flashing at all.
Another way is that if you don't want to use the computer just remove the boot.img from the zip (I believe its that one) file of the ROM your wanting to flash and I believe this should let you flash right from Recovery and then you can access fastboot to flash the Kernel side.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1422066
Definitely S-OFF though. I think you can use Revolutionary if you're on hboot 1.4. It's been so long since I've rooted...
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How about nadroid backup and restore functionality on hb 1.5 i mean i assume we would run into issues with this if we want to restore to a previous version of a rom with a non stock kernel.
Sometimes i go flash happy and end up with a boot loop situation but all is usually well because i just wipe and restore.
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How about nadroid backup and restore functionality on hb 1.5 i mean i assume we would run into issues with this if we want to restore to a previous version of a rom with a non stock kernel.
Sometimes i go flash happy and end up with a boot loop situation but all is usually well because i just wipe and restore.
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I believe you would have to backup everything except the boot area. You would have to flash the kernel first before restoring the backup.
Note: I haven't tested this, but simple logic says it should work. If I'm wrong, please correct me.
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Please see: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=21082065
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To get S-Off, has anyone tried rolling back to the old RUU (Prerelease) and using HTC Dev? It probably won't work, but it might be worth a shot...
htc dev wont work,they arent going to give an unlock key,it doesnt matter what firmware we are running.
from what i can gather,zergRush works,we need to be able to disable emmc write protect so that a new hboot can be written. im assuming the usual exploits for this are not working,or it would be out by now.
it may be possible that an older ruu may be more "exploitable" i dont reeally know.
i hope some breakthrus come... i hate to think htc devices are going to become "unlockable" like moto i like the rezound but have got to hold out till it has at least a software s-off.
id also be happy with clip support,since i have one of them
edit: htc dev unlock is a joke anyway. i do appreciate the efforts on their part to satisfy the root community,but it is not an s-off. what you get,is an unlocked s-on hboot that lets you change recovery,boot,and system. no radio or hboot changes,and no backwards RUUs without rewriting the misc image.
its unfortunately far from the freedom from a true unsecured bootloader. it may well be good enuff for most folks,but im not happy with that.
It's a good thought tho. Yeah the htc method for the EVO users sucked. I Mena u could still flash roms and such bit they had to have a stock kernel as a default In order to flashed em thru recovery. But I wouldn't be to happy with that either. So I can't blame ya. But if that all we were offered then I would have to live with it.
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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i would wait. we waited for evo 3d root far longer.
it really is a great phone. read engadgets review. they really explain the screen resolution very well with graphs. its sold as a music phone but at this time it is the best screen res in the world. the nexus and razor are inferior in that area. watching hd video on it is pretty cool
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I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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htc has been locking their bootloaders,this is nothing new. in the past,its just been easy to find work arounds to either turn of the radio secure flag off,or to sneek an eng hboot(that pretends the radio is s-off ) onto the device,and its always happend quickly,in most cases before the device even came out.
to my knowledge there is not encription,like there is with moto bootloaders,ist just that we currently have no way to write a new hboot in place of the current one.
if there is not a real engineering hboot for the rezound,its not too difficult to patch a stock hboot to not do radio checks,and to provide fastboot commands,and even protect itself from being overwritten(all these are characteristics of the revolutionary hboot), its just a matter of an exploit to get it in place.
i know i sort of started that ball rolling with my comment, but i wouldnt give up just yet. hopefully someone whose smarter than us will figure it out. or the clip will support it. or both
im not saying i wont get it,but im still happy with my thunderbolt,i dont need a new phone yet,so i will wait untill we have s-off,or possibly until 4 core processors come out next year
disconnecktie said:
I was thinking of getting this phone but I doubt I will now.it sucks that HTC is becoming like Motorola and locking their bootloaders.
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C'mon, the phone hasn't even been out a week. It takes time, but the devs almost always find a way in.
I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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I believe that HTC not posting an unlock key is of course Verizon's doing but as was mentioned that is not true s off.
Im also of the opinion that this boot loader isn't encrypted. Im pretty confident s off will come
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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That was the rumor. I never got in to see for myself, but heard more than a few actual devs say it was.
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Well if it helps, the RUU didn't work. It aborted midway through and gave an HBOOT error. I might try again, but it's probably not worth losing my data for.
If it can be done xtc clip will do it and if they can do it alpha rev and unrevoked will pull it off as well let's just give them some time.... I'm not worried at all at the moment
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I still have some time before I can get my upgrade so maybe it will be unlocked before then. This phone is on my list of phones I like. Sorry for messing up the thread. Good luck guys
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well the EVO 3D was encrypted wasnt it?...
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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if the 3D bootloader was incrypted,it would still be in place. i dont believe it could be overwritten,even with a radio secure flag off. it is all but impossible to find the encryption key,without the encrypter giving it to you.
hmm. after some thot... does revolutionary give the 3d a new hboot like it does for other models? looking at their site again,it gives permanent nand unlock to the sensation,3d,and mytouch slide. i guess its possible to turn the secure flag off,and all partitions could be flashed without security checks except the hboot.
hafta research that one
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Wow that's a great thought. But the hboot would remain the same. Wiether u had 1.30 or 1.40 to begin with. They never released there exploit tho. I know it had to do with the kernel and htc patched it with the 2.08 update. Bastards LOL.
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So its just a way to put different stock software on a phone, lol what a fail.
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pretty much..HTC has gotten better and better plugging there holes. For the EVO 3D we had some of the best DEVs working on it. Def wasnt easy for them, but now if u dont have an older Hboot you cant use AlphaREvs method. WEll hopefully they'll figure ours out as wel
Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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Im just curious if anyone knows if we have Anyone working on s off and of we don't we should put together a fund to get unrevoked or alpharev a phone.
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I'm sure they are working on it they are quit to do it.... You can always contact them on twitter
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Do you know what their twitter name is. Probably unrevoked and alpharev?
So after roughly a week and few days my 3vo which I had only two days with before sending in, is coming back with all new front assembly, very excited! Now I'm curious I have not gottena chance to root this phone but I do know it is on 1.5 hboot will that be a serious problem or is there a decent work around?
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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thizzlemania91 said:
Ur in luck. Some guy here was able to downgrade his EVO with hboot 1.5 to hboot 1.4 he has a thread on the dev section
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you might throw up during the process though.
But it'll be a good puke! You'll feel refreshed and accomplished.
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you might throw up during the process though.
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Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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Realize you are excited OP, but did you need another thread for your repair story?
Here is link to downgrade hboot when you do get it back.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1547695
Wolf Counselor said:
Try rooting a Samsung. I don't know about now but before it was a pain in the butt to get the rooting program to run right. That's another reason why ibloved HTC. Everything was manual and less stressful.
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After coming from rooting my LG (press a button in superonclick to root, then running a batch file to put on CWM), the htc is a mega pain to get access.
The common theme I've noticed after being in 3 different sub-forums is that all users complain about the manufacturers not releasing code. I'm not surprised the companies don't but it makes everything so hard. So just realise it isn't just HTC being a pain it's pretty much every company.
Very glad that there is hope for 1.5's Hbooters I do wonder what hboot version HTC will try to enforce on the E3D when ICS comes via OTA.
So I was doing all the downgrade stuff..
Downgraded, got as far as the Revolutionary S-Off part, then when I was gonna update my radios I ****ed up and copied the wrong zip and flashed the first 2.11 RUU and it took me back to 1.5 locked.
I was so tired had been at it for hours so I'm like **** I'll just start again I guess this time will be easy, I bricked my phone through the method but then I read if you were already s-off that was perma brick?
I read that after I tried running the live cd tool and it wouldn't recognize the phone, please tell me my 2 week old baby isn't gone...
I do get the red dim light still idk if that matters but I can't turn it on or go into the bootloader
The last I heard if you do the downgrade with S-off your phone becomes a paper weight.
I got frustrated at what I did and was so tired I didn't re-read I just repeated the process then I read I had bricked it since it was already s-off..
is it gone?
As far as I know its gone! on the bright side you now have a nice expensive paper weight!
Sorry for your loss. Its a hard lesson learned.
Your best bet is to take it back to Sprint and tell them it stopped working, and see if they trade it in for you. I've read that a guy on this forum did that and they charged him like $35
for new device. Time to use your communication skills. I just sent mine to HTC for repair because I don't have a Sprint account, I'm using Google Voice for the moment. Just tell the Sprint rep how much you love them and their service and how you'd recommend them to family & friends and all that, they might just help you out. I'm missing my E3D already:'(
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As far as I know its gone! on the bright side you now have a nice expensive paper weight!
Sorry for your loss. Its a hard lesson learned.
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That's really low down, at least offer the brother a solution. Don't just compound him misery. If you don't have anything good to say, then say nothing at all.
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Question what custom recovery do you have installed
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so technically as long as i do that writeseureflag 3 or what ever command and turn s-off to s-on i can do any upgrade i want and then always revert the hboot back again later? and not have a paper weight ?
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so technically as long as i do that writeseureflag 3 or what ever command and turn s-off to s-on i can do any upgrade i want and then always revert the hboot back again later? and not have a paper weight ?
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Not exactly, you can take any update you want to with s-off, and s-off will stick. I've run the 2.17 RUU with s-off and it put on hboot 1.5 locked, but since I still had s-off, I just flashed a custom recovery and then flashed hboot 1.4 without ever unlocking, the s-off overrides the lock.
I wouldn't do fastboot oem writesecureflag 3 unless I absolutely had to, like if I was selling my phone and they didn't want s-off. The op only has problems because he was s-off and then did unknowns brick method.
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Question what custom recovery do you have installed
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I am currently using 4ext (see my sig), but have enjoyed using TWRP 2.0 as well.
OK, Im ready to root my new EVolTE, whats the best method to root giving me S-OFF? I might not flash any rooms for now, but will root just to get tether.
Any advice?
rooting
Right now the only way to get S-Off is to go to HTCdev and get it there, but that isn't "true" S-Off from what I understand, and rooting and S-Off are 2 diff things, to actually root get on youtube and search rooting evo 4g lte, there is a great vid there on how to do it, make sure you have a unzipping program first. it's a piece of cake
S-Off hasn't been officially hacked yet.
Hope this helps
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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david279 said:
You guys need to read this....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1671577
Then this...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1680928
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Evol lte doesn't have s-off yet. You can gain root without flashing anything and htcdev is so can install a custom recovery, which gives you ability to flash a rom.
I've been wondering about this myself. I haven't even seen any word on whether anyone is working on getting s-off for this thing. I've been hoping for CM9 to come to the new EVO eventually. Correct me if I'm wrong but don't you need s-off to flash AOSP? If that's the case then they probably wouldn't even start work on it until someone finds a way to get s-off. I just miss CM7 from my OG EVO and unfortunately there was never a fully working version for the 3D. I really considered getting the Galaxy Nexus but I couldn't pass up the HW specs on this thing.
HTC dev unlock is enough for aosp kush has a cm9 wip that boots
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Also imy guess to get s off will be similar to the junopbear method or.whatever where we have to short out the emmc by grounding it but idk if that same exploit would s off the bootloader ...
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We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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david279 said:
We don't need s-off as much now. We can do a lot with the htcdev unlock. It will be nice to have though.
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Yeah s off just makes things a little easier tho you ya know so I hope we get it before to long
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Yeah been wondering the same thing. I remember when the 3D came out we had a few bounties, two or three different teams and numerous individuals actively trying to get S-Off. Haven't heard from anyone trying to accomplish it for the EvoLTE.
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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From what I remember from my OG EVO & 3D, I thought it was a pain in the butt & took a lot more steps to do as opposed to flashing those things with S-Off.
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ticklemepinks said:
s-off isn't needed, we can flash kernel and radios right thru recovery now, the only thing we can't flash are splash screens which isn't a big deal at all..
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Or can we?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1698337
One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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One thing i don't understand is right on htcs website in the faq it talks about how the bootloader still has security enabled to protect the radios. If that's true how is it that we can flash radios? I thought htc specifically blocked that with their method.
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More info here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1694589
Looking at selling my Evo 3D to a buddy and I would like to get a newer one, ie no scratches. I wanted to ask what are the repercussions of going with a newer 3vo; in terms of rooting. Also are they still somewhat the same; nothing has been changed (maybe BOOT version?)
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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kiewee3 said:
You're going to have to deal with HTC hboot from Heill. keep your old evo, especially because that one will probably get scratches on it too. Just put a case on to conceal anything impurities
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Please explain about the new hboot. IIRC My hboot was the hardest to do, now you're telling me the new one is harder? I don't just want to get a new phone, I want to get my buddy out of his clamshell...yes he has a clamshell.
I haven't rooted on mine yet, only because I don't have the time to be on down-time while I root. Especially since I have never rooted before. So learning curve taken into account.
I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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coal686 said:
I don't think the new one is harder than 1.50 was from what I've read. You still HTCdev unlock and then wire trick.
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Refresh my memory on the wire trick.
kiewee3 said:
Hboot 1.57 I think is just like hboot 1.5, but there is no way to downgrade it/s-off
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Wait, you're telling me that I can't do the brick phone trick, to bring me back to <1.5, and root from there?
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Hboot 1.58 can be s-off by wire trick, someone has try and confirmed, try to read on jopunotbear thread.
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Ok I'm getting do and don'ts from this thread. I'm going to let it linger and see what others have to say. I would really like to get my buddy into the 21st century. So lets hope I get more do than don'ts.
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it has proper hardware. 1gb ram and dual core withc can be overclocked to over 1.8ghz.
you got an "more than ok" from me. take a look at the price (vs. sensation) - it has better hardware, lol (MSM8660)
just buy it . you won't regret IF YOU WILL USE COSTOM ROM
s-on?what's so bad about that? use 4ext with smartflash...
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That the thing, I've always wanted to root my phone, so I want to make certain that I can root a newer 3VO.
sorry for the missunderstanding. you may be able to s-off a newer hboot. im not sure though