Hi there.
I read through the forums here looking for answers to my specific questions, but found them only partly answered, so I thought a new thread might be justified. Truth be told, the noob video kinda scared me out of posting, so I guess it suits its purpose.
So, here's my story:
I've been looking for a device to view, read and annotate digital texts and ebooks with for quite some time. I read a lot of papers (mostly PDF, some DOC and ePUB), and until now I've always gone back to printing and adding handwritten notes on the side.
So my question now is: How well can the flyer handle that sort of job.
Here's a list of jobs/things it would need to do:
-reasonably view all kinds of formats (text-PDF, image-PDF, epub, doc etc.)
-highlight, mark and annotate texts
-ability to hide/display on and export those annotations to other devices (at least windows-based systems)
-note syncing with evernote/dropbox or similar would be a plus, but storing the notes within the actual files is sufficient
I've read up on the flyer around the web, but couldn't quite figure out how well it does fit my demands. From what I gathered so far, the scribe pen notations seem to be rather tightly bound to the device, which would be somewhat counter-productive.
So I would highly appreciate it, if someone who uses the flyer in a similar fashion could comment on this, or possibly recommend a better fitting device (I have been eyeballing quite a few over the years, but none seemed as promising as the flyer does).
Thanks!
I am a scientist, and I purchased the Flyer primarily to annotate PDF files. Here is my opinion.
The native pdf viewer is adequate. It is not good, and not bad. Annotating is very easy, and overall a very positive experience. Except for one GLARING problem. The pen size in the pdf annotation cannot get small enough. Zoomed in, the pen size is so large you can only fit 1-2 words of annotation in the side margins, and you can BARELY underline txt (let alone try and fix txt in between lines). HTC "knows" about this issue, but that is all they have stated. I contacted another PDF program (eezpdf or something like that) they said they are planning on supporting pen devices in the future, but would not commit to the Flyer specifically.
It is usable in it's current form, just not as I imagined.
The ebook reader is an absolute delight. They (I guess it would be Borders who made it) should be commended. If you can/want, I would convert all your pdf's to ebooks to annotate.
The note application has some issues (in landscape mode the pen side is still too big for my taste), but it is also overall good. Some additional work could be done here with the palm recognition.
Hope this helps.
I think Flyer is not perfect for academic use because right now there are so many limitation in software implementation for the first kind of android tablet which uses active digitizer. So the problem resides not on the hardware but on the low maturity of the software.
I think we can compromise the limitations, and with some tweakings, we can become very productive with Flyer. Not just because of the magic pen, but also form factor and the speed of multitasking work with this tablet.
If you plan to do full scribble activity, the easiest way to do that is by making some empty pdf pages which can be write with magic pen without automatic saving trouble and activation of soft keyboard.
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I agree with the above posts. If you're willing to work with the limited software, the Flyer is viable for accomplishing your listed task.
The pen enabled Kobo reader does a good job of highlighting, markup and handwritten annotations of epub. It does not natively recognize pdf, but there are programs which can convert the PDFs to epub for imported into Kobo. I use Caliber on my Windows machine. The conversion is fairly straightforward, but it is an extra step (saving the converted epub to dropbox is a quick way of getting the disc onto the Flyer).
The pen enabled PDF reader, I believe from Foxit, can highlight text, but the line weight is too thick. But usable in a bind. I can sign docs, flatten and return to the sender.
I'm not sure about creating a blank PDF for scribble... The auto-saving can get in the way sometimes, but it hasn't bothered me, I don't take notes non-stop though. Learning to touch the pen tip down before andor touching the edge of the note with your other hand reduces the keyboard from popping up.
As with anything you would be the best judge of the functionality. Find a Flyer from a local retailer with a generous return policy.
Hope that helps.
I bought the Flyer with many of the same motivations that you have, as I work extensively with documents. For the most part, it has fulfilled my needs very well, though I do agree with some of the shortcomings raised by other posters here regarding the PDF application.
The Polaris Office app lets you use the pen to mark up Word and Excel documents and the comments you make with the pen are then visible on your PC. If you have access to Word versions of a document rather than PDF this may be a better option as the pen width is much better. Marking up documents in the Reader app is a delight, but I can't seem to find a way to view what you've done in the book on other devices.
The only other device I've had that allowed me the same kind of flexibility was a fully fledged Windows tablet. That allowed me to do a lot more, but couldn't compare to the ease of portability of the Flyer. I think it's a winner of you have to work with documents a lot.
Thank you all for your replies so far.
I have a follow-up question though: Since the flyer has been around for a bit now and you probably all have some perspective on how the developer community is coming along, I'm wondering: Do you think there will be enough community support to keep the device somewhat viable (particularly in this specific field of usage), even if HTC is lackluster in supporting it?
There are more tablets coming this winter with pen support. So, I would say there will be plenty of roms and apps to come. Sammy, eeepad memo from Asus and a few others have them coming. Pen support is a must have for a tablet and I bet the new HTC Puccini will even have some type of support. It will be refined within this tablets lifetime in my opinion. If you are not afraid to wait and not afraid of maybe quality problems then the memo is due in December. I wouldn't though. Asus has fallen off over the years. HTC makes a good product and they support it. This pad will get better along with its pen apps. I've used the other tablets and owned two Sammy 10.1 tablets. I still came back to this one for college use.
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Thank you all for your replies so far.
I have a follow-up question though: Since the flyer has been around for a bit now and you probably all have some perspective on how the developer community is coming along, I'm wondering: Do you think there will be enough community support to keep the device somewhat viable (particularly in this specific field of usage), even if HTC is lackluster in supporting it?
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The devs have just achieved S-off (they will be releasing it to us soonish). After, that I know we have 2 devs that own flyers and will probably be cooking roms for it.
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The pen enabled PDF reader, I believe from Foxit, can highlight text, but the line weight is too thick. But usable in a bind. I can sign docs, flatten and return to the sender.
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I bought the device for the same reason as the threadstarter.
I just started my pdh and want to read a lot of PDFs when I travel or just sit in the tube, so I looked for the stylus and the annotation function. Until now (got the Flyer 4 weeks ago) Im very glad that I took the HTC Flyer, because of the size and the performance. But I have one problem with the Foxit PDF reader. I open the data and write something on it, then I save it two or three times. Until now everything is fine. Then when I want to save it again there is some kind of message, that "there is not enough space to save the data" and I cant save the new annotations. It was very frustrating, when I read a 10 pages with a lot of annotations and the save function didnt work... Has anyonehad the same experience or is there another programm (not the ebookreader trick) to annotate pdfs?
The ezPDF reader does not work with the stylus. you cant annotate the PDFs, instead you can just make a screenshot and write on it, but its not the same.
Yes, I'm pretty sure the "not enough space" thing is a bug. I sent HTC a support ticket about it. Don't know the update cycle -- maybe you can add to the complaints
Essentially, it happens whenever I annotate a pdf and save it, and continue reading the same pdf. If I annotate any more and try to save it, it will give "not enough space".
My workaround has been to actually exit to the menu with the list of pdfs after saving, then reopening the same pdf.
Ah okay, I will check this trick. This will spare me a lot of nerves, just save the annotations end the app and restart it
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Hey All,
I have used these forums as my main resource for android for a while now, and this is my first time having to post a question because everything is usually so well documented.
I bought a nook color a while ago, and have love it. I take college classes at night, and obviously would love to use it during said classes. Getting books, and PDF's for it are easy enough, but i am looking for an app to take notes with. I am not a huge fan of using a touchscreen keyboard to take notes which i have done in the past. Does anyone know of a solid handwriting recognition app that would be useful for class? or any other applications that would be useful for class in general?
Thanks You.
I don't think it may work fine for that purpose at least you have a stylus and a handwriting app cause its kinda annoying to take fast notes in this keyboard wether you use portrait or landscape mode because of the size
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There has to be something a little more intuitive to take notes with than having to type everything... right?
So far, the best I have seen for handwriting recognition on android works like so:
Write a word
Wait
Omfg, it guessed wrong, rewrite word
Rinse, repeat until it gets one word right
Class is over
Do yourself a favor and buy a pen and paper
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You will be good as gold if bluetooth every gets working... A nice mini keyboard would solve your problem
I hear ya man... that would make my life so much easier the day BT gets up and running.
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Nice cheap little mini keyboard like this one would fix my problem.
I did see an handwriting recognition app that is similar to how the old palm pilots used to do hwr, but i hated using in on the palm, and still hate it on android.
http://www.appbrain.com/app/genial-writing/com.zenpie.genialwriting
This is the best app I've found so far. My biggest problem has actually been the NC's screen. There don't seem to be enough contact points or something to make for accurate enough writing.
Can't wait for the BT day either.
I mostly use my Nook Color as a supplement to my desktop at home in college. We are a big Google Apps school so we share everything over Google Docs. I use quickoffice to access my google docs from my nook and view my presentations and notes no there. I do everything except take notes on there, because its just not possible. Wait for bluetooth and then we might have progress.
Here is a decent, admittedly roundabout set up i've come up with: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=10689802#post10689802
Also, I did see (but didn't buy) a stylus made for ipad and other capacitative touch screens (such as nook color screen). It was $14.99 at microcenter in the ipad accessories section. Could work well in combination with a sketchpad type app... not handwriting recognition, but just handwriting.
Thanks for all the input guys, sadly it seems that i will have to wait until we get BT working. I have been paying attention to the progress of some of the people working on enabling BT. Does anyone know if there is a particular BT initiative that has been making more progress over the others?
At the moment there is only one person that I see working on it in the bluetooth thread.
My plan (I will start using my NC for classes tomorrow) is to use an app called blackink. You can have different notebooks for class and either draw notes or type notes. You can also sync to evernote and dropbox. At the very least I will be using evernote, dropbox and a scanner to minimize the files I keep from classes. But yes, if a working BT happens note taking in class will be much easier!
Seriously, what happened to taking notes, then transcribing them later, adding details, revising? For me it helps solidify the information in my WET data storage.
I teach first year English, am a grad student, and I use this thing with taking notes, reading pdfs, etc. The best setup I've gotten really fast with is using Evernote (which syncs between my ios devices and my Macbook) with the SlideIT keyboard. Certainly faster than trying to use handwriting recognition or the few times I've played with the ipad on screen keyboard. I usually ignore errors and clean up the notes later when I'm at my macbook. Almost as fast as writing by hand, for me at least.
Nb I also really push for my students to use Evernote. The Mac version is slightly more full featured than the windows one, but both are good and the android and ios versions are great.
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I tried a targus stylus made for the ipad and it didn't work out too well at all. I tried it in magic doodle and it can't even draw a straight line or circle consistently. Something about the nc touch screen just don't make a stylus conducive for sketching or note taking, cuz apparently reviewers thought the stylus worked great on the ipad. Can't wait until a tab with integrated wacom is released.
this is an offbeat solution, but in my classes, i have a macbook air (11 inch). i use the tab only when i surf and use it to stay low profile.
I've been using my Nook Color in class for about a week now. I'll share my thoughts.
1. Note-taking is a pain, and you'll only complicate your life by trying to use handwriting recognition or drawing software. I work at our campus computer store, and people have tried for a year or more to use styluses for handwritten data entry on capacitive touch screens. The mushy point on the iPad stylus that allows it to work is much closer to Sharpie thickness than a typical pen or pencil. Unless you want to have hundreds of notes that look like they were written by a kindergarten student, you should go a different route.
2. Evernote is not as useful as I had hoped. I'm used to having the ability to record audio notes with my Droid, and that's impossible with the nook at this point because it doesn't have a microphone. I've seen audio minijack add-ons for the iPod Touch that would record audio despite the lack of native support, but it will be a while before we see that on the Nook, if ever. That said, I've also tried typing on both the default keyboard and SlideIT, the latter of which cannot hold a candle to Swype. My solution? I carry a small notepad and record the audio to Evernote using my phone.
3. eBooks are extremely frustrating at times. I had to pay ~$4 for a copy of the novel My Antonia on Amazon because the free/cheap versions often lack effective ways to navigate. You can flip through a paper book, but, in the Kindle app, trying to navigate to a certain chapter without a Table of Contents is a huge pain. I'm definitely spending less than on print books, but you can't count on finding free options.
4. The native note-taking abilities in the Kindle app are beautiful. I've noticed probably a 300% increase in how much I interact with text when I can touch the text to highlight it rather than having to get a highlighter or sticky note. Being able to see all notes and highlights is also great. Yes, that's more of a Kindle-specific thing, but it looks gorgeous on the screen, and I like that the display is true to the size of a book.
5. Productivity use will remind you how far Android has to come. I've yet to find a clean, simple, and easy-to-use to-do list that can sync to Google Tasks and not look terrible on the screen. Similarly, until moments ago when I saw another post here, I was frustrated that the Calendar didn't work. There have been times in the past week that I've been close to soliciting a developer to create an app that fills the gaps I see.
6. I'm an English major, so a lot of my professors are against having technology in the classroom. I've found that they've all been accepting of ereaders because they assume people won't be using them for Facebook/Twitter/whatever. That's a pretty awesome side, but I'd prefer to use my MBP and MS Office to record my lectures along with markers in the text for going to specific parts of the recording.
I look forward to the day that Bluetooth works on the Nook or when someone creates an iPad/XOOM-style keyboard dock. I know a girl who takes her iPad to class, docks it, and loves the whole experience. I want that, but for half the price and without the walled garden. Still, though, I think the Nook experience would improve dramatically if some skilled developers were given enough motivation/compensation for their efforts.
again, no ipad. macbook air 11. trust me on this u just open and type.
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5. Productivity use will remind you how far Android has to come. I've yet to find a clean, simple, and easy-to-use to-do list that can sync to Google Tasks and not look terrible on the screen. Similarly, until moments ago when I saw another post here, I was frustrated that the Calendar didn't work. There have been times in the past week that I've been close to soliciting a developer to create an app that fills the gaps I see.
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Jorte looks good and works great for me. Give it a try if you haven't already.
Not too useful for school right now, mostly using it as a document viewer in class. Beats a smartphone for simple note-taking in a pinch. Laptops are much popular in my current school than my old one in the US, so the 'less disruptive' tablet issue doesn't apply.
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I'm a teacher in a secondary school. I've got my eye on a Flyer just because they're the nicest tablet so far and I like the look of the pen.
From experience, can you tell me whether it'd make life easier as a teacher? I'd like to be able to run my lessons on it - that means having a lesson plan document (A4 doc file) open to refer to, take a register (again probably a doc or xls file of names but can create something specifically) and also note things like names I need to speak to or credits I need to give as the lesson goes on, recording grades and marks etc. The grades and marks sheet would be added to constantly through the year as a single document, lesson notes for credits/warnings are fairly temporary.
I'm also thinking it would be good to take notes in meetings, since I tend to make a few notes and lose them or not have a way of keeping them handy. I could scan in any documents I get handed during meetings and keep it all together.
All the docs I create and play with would need to be editable or at least viewable and sharable on mac and pc.
How are you guys getting on with yours and do you think the Flyer can help geekify my lessons and be better than hundreds of bits of paper? Or do you think waiting for the Puccini is worthwhile (I'm liking the portability of the Flyer more)
Also anyone want to write me a register-taking, grade keeping, lesson management app?!
I'm really surprised why everyone doesn't have a flyer by now =)
Well, anyone who takes notes and has to mark things up at least.
The Pucinni, yes - good. If you NEED the screen size, then I really think it's going to be the best bet. OR if you NEED to play all those HD games, then sure - it has a faster processor.
However, if you're just looking to get stuff done and you like even greater portability, then you can't go wrong with a Flyer.
You can get the MHL cable and use HDMI out so you (should) be able to basically turn your Flyer into a really good presentation tool when hooked up to a projector. Think of the pen there as your little pointer/highlighter...Which you can hide with a single tap and show again with another.
Then you can instantly e-mail out any screen you mark up...So while you're presenting and someone wants whatever screen/slide you're on e-mailed to them with all the markings (or not) you can very easily do so.
I think that alone makes the Flyer (and Pucinni) a KILLER device for lectures, presentations, etc. Hands down you can't beat it.
That said...I DID get an MHL cable and I can't quite seem to hook mine up to my monitor with it. I'm not sure why. So a little research into that...But I think it "should" work. I am using an HDMI -> DVI. So that could be why.
Anyway, as far as pen accuracy is concerned - it's quite accurate. I still would love to take more hand written notes, but I have to admit you fit more on the screen when typing...So I just find it faster to type still even on a virtual keyboard.
IF it had some sort of OCR system (like Palm Pilots back in the day or Windows devices) then it would be faster. It would be rock solid.
In my opinion, that is the ONLY thing that's missing from the Flyer. I can live without it, but if it existed, then I think the value of the device would increase even more.
I really don't know about any software for teachers...But check the Android market. Just note that not many (any really) apps are out there yet that take advantage of the pen (HTC Scribe) yet other than those that come with the device.
Yeah, OCR would be awesome though I guess it would slow everything down.
I'm thinking that I'll. use my laptop for presentations etc, this would literally replace my file of paper I have for each class. With an Office app and the pen, I'm pretty sure it'll do anything o need...
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Hi
I'm a teacher in a secondary school. I've got my eye on a Flyer just because they're the nicest tablet so far and I like the look of the pen.
From experience, can you tell me whether it'd make life easier as a teacher? I'd like to be able to run my lessons on it - that means having a lesson plan document (A4 doc file) open to refer to, take a register (again probably a doc or xls file of names but can create something specifically) and also note things like names I need to speak to or credits I need to give as the lesson goes on, recording grades and marks etc. The grades and marks sheet would be added to constantly through the year as a single document, lesson notes for credits/warnings are fairly temporary.
I'm also thinking it would be good to take notes in meetings, since I tend to make a few notes and lose them or not have a way of keeping them handy. I could scan in any documents I get handed during meetings and keep it all together.
All the docs I create and play with would need to be editable or at least viewable and sharable on mac and pc.
How are you guys getting on with yours and do you think the Flyer can help geekify my lessons and be better than hundreds of bits of paper? Or do you think waiting for the Puccini is worthwhile (I'm liking the portability of the Flyer more)
Also anyone want to write me a register-taking, grade keeping, lesson management app?!
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Okay... well the answer in general would be a "yes" but things to consider:
1) your eyesight: I have o problem reading a full page (letter/A4 size) on the screen but I have had people comment on how I can read something that small. Only two suggestions occur to me here. You can take one of the sheets you want to read on it and shrink it on a copier until the text area is 7" diagonally (ignore the margins, zoom is your friend on a tablet ), or if it's a matter of resolution check out an old netbook and imagine it smaller (older nettbooks have the same screen resolution, just 10" instead of 7", some of the newer ones are higher definition so be careful with that).
Office (excel, etc.) works find and can be saved. So anything requiring those can be seen and edited on the tablet as well as the computer.
The notes app is great in many ways. Yes, you will most likely never write as quickly on it as on a dedicated keyboard but it depends on your note taking style. If you jot down key points (which is made more feasible by the audio record function) then it should present no problems. If you want to transcribe an entire meeting word for word... then it most likely won't do.
Notes in the notes app are infinite in size but they can get laggy from what I've heard when they get really big and obviously office files can be edited and added to without any real limit.
And the Flyer is great for referring to notes when you need to check stuff like credits/warnings. If you include then in your lesson plan you can easily highlight them for an easier referral.
As for the suggestion for projections/presentations. Yes, a laptop might be convenient, but if you get the Flyer working then it should also work well: you can circle, underline, highlight items on the screen and the students can see it. it all depends on the specific presentation and what you'll be doing (and as Tom mentioned you can toggle all your pen markings on and off with a single tap for the "unadulterated" view of the screen.
There are OCR apps on the market though I haven't tried them so no comment (if you have an Android phone you could test them out and adjust the times needed for the OCR process according as the Flyer should be faster than most phones).
Also remember that any picture integrated into the notes app becomes searchable on Evernote. the downside is that pics in the Notes app look really small in the notes app (passable in landscape orientation) even though you can see them full size in Evernote applications as well as the website.
The Flyer can help you become more organized and deal with all those lose little papers you tend to accumulate (it's one of my reasons for getting it) although as always it will depend on how much effort you are willing to put in (although the aforementioned searchability on Evernote and such make life a skosh easier even if you're not generally organized).
WANT!
I don't need to view a whole A4 at once - I'll use it landscape and scroll.
How is it for swapping quickly between documents, i.e. lesson plan, markbook and class list/notes?
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!!11oneone,
The Flyer is a good tablet for academic people. I just recommended to a friend doing Phd. He is enjoying it.
If you open any .pdf book on the Flyer. I will auto-resize it so that the font is not too big or too small. Plus, like you said you can view in landscape or portrait.
You can also highlight your pdf he books and save it with the highlights. At the same time you can scribble on the same page you highlight and save it along using the PdfViewer provided by HTC. It is just a good tool for people you like reading, making hand written notes, want to quickly sketch an idea for future reference. Or even record voice along with hand written notes.
It is just a great tool.
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I can only comment on the use of the notes feature for, well notes. I haven't used a notebook for recording meeting notes for over two weeks. I must have access to customer meeting notes and the portability of the Flyer alone versus a number of paper notebooks has been fantastic.
The audio recording implementation is good and has enabled me to reduce the volume of written notes to just points I need to take action on.
Knowing that the audio is time stamped (though not as well as a Live Scribe system) means you can also make a note about a discussion worth referring to only if needed in the future. Audio file sizes are surprisingly small.
I do recommend installing the Evernote app as well given it has better note management tools.
My handwriting is shocking, so I suspect an OCR system would fail me!
from my experience
During first days of use of my Flyer I used pen a lot and drove like crazy..but than I noticed 10 scratches on my screen and it is very hard to live with it. Don`t get why they make pen for non scratch resistant screen
Anyway I used to save my notes by default in Evernote account but somebody took my flyer just to look at it and all of my notes were gone. So, there is always risk that your notes, marks, lessons might just disappear.. I suggest you write in some text app like jota text editor or similar.. Still if you want to write it or type it and not worry about losing it, you can always send it to your email as backup..
I also used it for studying, highlighting lessons and stuff but again my screen got all scratched out.. so when I think of selling it cause its too small dont know what price I could get for what is left of it
If you dont plan to use it in subway busses..take some bigger tablet, my eyes hurt sometimes
scrolling gets boring.. I used to use 10 inch tablet and still have my Flyer so that is when I realized how disappointed I was..Couldnt read all you wrote since its 7am here.. but if you have more questions post it and Ill answer..
Has anyone noted any difference in screens between the Flyer and the Evo View? I have read a few posts now about folks scratching their Flyer screens. I have scribbled like nuts on my Evo View screen and its as clean as can be...
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I so envy you sir.. This screen is pissing me off. I thought I study from it and pass some exams but no to small for it.. eyes hurt like I said.
I guess foor students and teachers, if you would like to forget about lap top is something like 10 inch tablet with digital pen and honeycomb.. (second thing I hate about Flyer is Gingerbread..got used to it on my phone so on Flyer it seems so cheap )..
Could users list their creative and best uses for the Notes application. Emailing, notes, websites etc.
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Oh well I definately use it like some sort of print screen application.. things I try not to forget I write over it and save it as my note..also I can find it as jpeg in gallery so its good for that type of use. When Im bored I draw but since lately my screen got scratched I avoid it..
Know this is more digital pen answer but what is notes without pen
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Oh well I definately use it like some sort of print screen application.. things I try not to forget I write over it and save it as my note..also I can find it as jpeg in gallery so its good for that type of use. When Im bored I draw but since lately my screen got scratched I avoid it..
Know this is more digital pen answer but what is notes without pen
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I thought this thread would be inunaudated with great uses...........
To be honest, I simply use the notes application with Evernote on the PC to record all of my customer meetings. The audio integration works excellently and has reduced the volume of notes per meeting. No longer do I have to carry multiple paper note books with me nor flip through pages to find prior notes. Very happy!
My wife and I recently went shopping for a new dishwasher. It was cool to be able to snap a picture of the floor units and take notes (including wriiting down the model numbers to look up online reviews). In case you haven't tried it, pictures you take while the notes app is open are embedded into your note.
screenshots to small
hello,
one question concerning the screenshots made by notes. Is there a way to make them bigger? I'm not able to read the text in the screenshots because of too small and I canot zoom in or find the parameters to save in another size. The screenshot size is ok when working on it (just after creating the shot) but when I safe the note and open it again the size is too small.
thanks a lot
thomas
Use the Evermore app in parallel. Images in notes are able to be manipulated.
A bit of a pain, but i have the two apps set up different ways which works well.
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Use the Evermore app in parallel. Images in notes are able to be manipulated.
A bit of a pain, but i have the two apps set up different ways which works well.
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I will try this, thanks a lot
They say that the Honeycomb upgrade will expand the use of the Pen and the notes application, Hopefully................
I have actually been using it in class to record the lecture while taking my notes on it. I use it in landscape mode. It takes a bit to get used to and find what pen settings work best, but after the initial curve it works fairly well. I will switch between it and my etextbook and blackboard all at the same time. I have to keep an eye on the back button but have been satisfied with being able to see my notes appear a they were written when the lecture was going on. I bought a transformer this weekend to use for my textbooks and blackboard to take the load off my view. yes I will be using two tablets in class at once but it still beats a huge laptop or a bunch of books and spirals.
I'm a graphic designer for a clothing company. I use it take snap shots of clothes we have made protos of and make comments of changes that are required. Some meetings I'm taking notes while listening and recording comments from merchandisers on what styles sells best. Also while I commute to work in NYC metro, I would usually see few designs I get inspired by and usually sketch the concepts. Its a general good source of data, since I carry it with me everywhere I have access of my thoughts and inspirations on the go. But after making these comments, I really hope HC makes better use of the Tablet and pen. It is lacking in some areas and it is not always the most enjoyable experience. Sketching is okay at best and the longer files tend to be a little laggy. Hoping for a better sketching integration of notes and evernote.
This is going to be my first tablet and I was wanting to hear from the tablet vets what are the best, must have apps and what are the best practices for ownership?
Do you recommend some brand of shields for the screen?
Best cases for the transformer?
Apps that you install before anything else?
What services did you tie in and are their any tricks to using the? For example I use to use dropbox to sync many system pref between the systems by making symbolic links to the Dropbox dir. (yes, that is a very old and not usually needed trick but you get the idea.)
Are their any cases that allow the tablet to dock w/o removing the tablet from the case.
What do you think of the asus drive privacy terms? I will not use amazons cloud drive w/o encrypting the entire contents due to their privacy clause.
Splash top works well on my wife's iPad was planning to use that, then heard of asus's implementation of splash top or is there better for android? Did some searching on it and found asus is using splash top too, is there any reason to buy splashtop hd? Didn't see any solid answer on that with google.
I think that is enough of my ideas just interested in hearing what everyone has found in their own experences.
I did some searching and all I have found is threads about best app and such looking for alittle more that fotm apps. Though I think my search foo is weak, if this has been posted sorry and would appreciate a link pointing me to the right place.
Ah one more from me any brands of shdc cards I need to avoid?
I ordered a skinomi clear skin /screen protector! This will allow It to dock! I would have gotten carbon but the speaker cutout will look weird! Remember that with any case their will be a square cutout for the speaker!
I'm in the same boat as you this will be be my first tablet!
I think you should have made a separate post for the must have tablet apps!
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I think that if I ask about best apps you would need what type of app you are looking at like
What is the best keyboard app?
What is the best rdp app?
Looking for something alittle more general than that. Like:
I need a battery monitor app/widget, I personally use battery monitor widget the pro version is nices as it allows battery tracking.
Best apps change as they new ones come out or old ones get updates, but the role they fill always needs filling.
Thanks for recommendation on the cover! Googling it now.
Also posters if you see someone recommending and app/case and you know of a flaw or problem with said item please tell us your experience and how you have worked around or solved said problems.
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This is going to be my first tablet and I was wanting to hear from the tablet vets what are the best, must have apps and what are the best practices for ownership?
Do you recommend some brand of shields for the screen?
Best cases for the transformer?
Apps that you install before anything else?
What services did you tie in and are their any tricks to using the? For example I use to use dropbox to sync many system pref between the systems by making symbolic links to the Dropbox dir. (yes, that is a very old and not usually needed trick but you get the idea.)
Are their any cases that allow the tablet to dock w/o removing the tablet from the case.
What do you think of the asus drive privacy terms? I will not use amazons cloud drive w/o encrypting the entire contents due to their privacy clause.
Splash top works well on my wife's iPad was planning to use that, then heard of asus's implementation of splash top or is there better for android? Did some searching on it and found asus is using splash top too, is there any reason to buy splashtop hd? Didn't see any solid answer on that with google.
I think that is enough of my ideas just interested in hearing what everyone has found in their own experences.
I did some searching and all I have found is threads about best app and such looking for alittle more that fotm apps. Though I think my search foo is weak, if this has been posted sorry and would appreciate a link pointing me to the right place.
Ah one more from me any brands of shdc cards I need to avoid?
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Less than a handful can actually comment on experience with this tablet as it's not officially out yet. Less than 5 here have it in possession already. There are reads in prime section of forum that basically covers all your sections. You will want spalshtop HD as it works great with Android tablets. As far as accessories and cases goes, check out the thread called Ultimate transformer Prime accessories thread. Also look into accessories sub forum here. There's a lot of people commenting on various cases that would be good for this device. For apps, that depends on what you looking for. Productivity, entertainment, games, research, etc.. Be more specific. Now with memory cards, there's a few threads here in general section that will answer your questions on that.
I know there is a lot of b.s. Preorder threads to sift thru here in general section. But all the answers you looking for are here. They may be a page or two back in this section. I would post links but there are so many. Good luck on your search
I will start flipping back in the pages to see what I can find. Thanks for the search pointers!
Though I do know only a few here have the device but, I was thinking that for most this would not be their first device and I was not looking for experience with "asus transformer prime" but more general knowledge with a leaning on the prime. I though that most here would be more knowledge able about the spec that the asus prime would have and most tablets have hc on them.
Though you make good points and I thank you for your advice. Going into the sub forums, damn there are a lot of pre order threads almost wish there was a temp sub forum called preorder.
I can't see if find if the asus splash top is splash top had or not anyone know?
This list should keep you busy for a while.
Best Free Android Apps 2011
http://www.techsupportalert.com/best-free-android-apps.htm
Top 160 best Android apps 2011
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...-phones/top-160-best-android-apps-2011-693696
The Best Free Android Apps of 2011 (So Far)
http://www.pcworld.com/article/229323/the_best_free_android_apps_of_2011_so_far.html
The 10 best free android apps of 2011
http://galaxys2apps.net/newsandmagazines/the-10-best-free-android-apps-of-2011/
The 40 Best Free Android Apps for 2011
http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,2817,2366244,00.asp
Results for "best android apps"
http://www.cnet.com/1770-5_1-0.html?query=best+android+apps&searchtype=videos
Ultimate Transformer PRIME TF201 Accessory Guide
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1377669
Thank you for the links and yes it will keep me busy for some time.
Sorry for my weak search foo
Tablets are pretty fun to use. However, it is rather difficult to bring out a tablet in public as they are quite cumbersome and you look like a pompous asshole with it; trust me. However, the transformer series has the keyboard dock, making you look like a more practical human being.
I used my TF101 in some college classes for note taking. I used Evernote. Worked beautifully. However, I want some faster speed lol.
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I will start flipping back in the pages to see what I can find. Thanks for the search pointers!
Though I do know only a few here have the device but, I was thinking that for most this would not be their first device and I was not looking for experience with "asus transformer prime" but more general knowledge with a leaning on the prime. I though that most here would be more knowledge able about the spec that the asus prime would have and most tablets have hc on them.
Though you make good points and I thank you for your advice. Going into the sub forums, damn there are a lot of pre order threads almost wish there was a temp sub forum called preorder.
I can't see if find if the asus splash top is splash top had or not anyone know?
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There was a thread talking about that splash top. I don't think the one included is the HD one. I think it's the regular one. Splash HD is the one you really want though as it has all features unlocked and better for tablets. All I've heard is great things about it though. I have it on my iPad and Atix4g.
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Tablets are pretty fun to use. However, it is rather difficult to bring out a tablet in public as they are quite cumbersome and you look like a pompous asshole with it; trust me. However, the transformer series has the keyboard dock, making you look like a more practical human being.
I used my TF101 in some college classes for note taking. I used Evernote. Worked beautifully. However, I want some faster speed lol.
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What do you mean by cumbersome? Lmao as my iPad is light and very easy to carry around. Now for the pompous comment, I guess some could see it like that. I always get looks n comments like oh look, he has one of those iPad/tablet things. Lol. Like people who have/carry tablets are better than everyone...
Just saw the stylus jot pro it looks like pure sex in the ultimate as stories thread I am ordering one of those.
Thanks for the info on splash top I was hoping that I could use the asus provided on but hd looks good compared to splashtop
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90% of what he asked was generic and the Prime's going to run the exact same applications every other HC tablet does exactly the same way (albeit faster). There might be some Teg3 optimized games but, other than that, it's just another tablet from a utilization perspective.
Here's some apps I can't live without:
Plex and Playon for video streaming
With Plex, you can store all your audio and video content on your home PC, NAS, or WHS and play it on your tablet, even over a 3G connection. It does an impressive job of organizing, labeling, and presenting your content and the tablet interface is pretty slick. I have 2TB of video that I stream to my tablet. It does a fantastic job of transcoding so the video quality's great even over sketchy connections.
PlayOn provides access to Hulu, Amazon VOD, and Netflix. It too is excellent at transcoding and actually does a better job in terms of video quality and buffering than the native apps. It's the best way to access Hulu content.
Pulse and News360 for news
Both have great tablet interfaces, sync with their desktop companions to bookmark or save stories, and can be highly personalized.
Zinio, PressReader, and Next Issue for magazines and newspapers
All have great content available and are designed for tablet screens. Next Issue content is free if you already have print subscriptions.
Read it Later for offline web surfing
Great app for finding web stuff to download to your tablet either as you see it or from your desktop PC to read later.
Swiftkey Tablet X & Swype keyboards
Swiftkey is a fantastic keyboard with excellent predicitive word logic and layout. It also has a thumb keyboard setting which is great when you aren't using a physical keyboard.
Swype has a mini-mode which takes up about 1/8 of the screen and is really fast when you're writing longer e-mails or docs.
CoPilot for navigation
Google map caching is hit or miss when you need to deviate and don't have a wireless signal. CoPilot stores all data locally and doesn't require any wireless signal to be fully functional.
TouchDown for e-mail
It's the best e-mail app for contact management and tasks. You almost have to have it if you connect to Exchange. It's got the best widgets of any e-mail program out there.
Worldmate travel companion
If you travel a lot Worldmate stores the details of your future trips on your tablet. As you're traveling it provides alerts for gates and times and any delays or changes to your itinerary. You can check flight status for any airline in real time and look up alternates if you're screwed.
Widgets
There's tons of screen space to fill on a tablet and these are some of the widgets I think are cool looking, useful, or both.
- Google Market
- AP Mobile
- CNBC
- CNN
- Pulse (multiples)
- Touchdown e-mail, calendar, and tasks
- Worldmate (live flight alerts on your home screen)
- Social Hub
- Gallery
- Kobo
- Amazon MP3
Task killers, batter managers, and the like
Tablets are different than phones and they're used differently. Android as an OS manages resources incredibly effectively. While it's a personal choice, adding things that use resources to save resources seems counter intuitive to me and I don't use them.
Half the fun of an Android tablet (vs. iOS) is the ability to make it your own. Enjoy.
Asus already included a big portion of the apps you might need for basic usage.
But here s some apps I use pretty much every day with my transformer, they re almost all optimized for tablet (android 3.0 framework)
Wizz Widget (for social feed)
tTorrent (for downloading)
subloader (for automatic subtitle downloading)
mobo player / bs player (for watching any kind of video)
File manager HD (a file explorer, better than Asus's one)
Newsr (a google reader better than google reader)
Catch note (to take and read note in the cloud, protect by password and synchronised on every device)
Google Current (offline reading of RSS feed with a very nice looking layout)
Beyondpod HD (best podcast apps)
And Adobe Photoshop Touch, Adobe Idea, Autodesk Sketchbook Pro, Picsay Pro, cause I'm a computer graphist.
Those are the apps I use the most, along which there is some usefull apps like skype, messenger, dropbox, splashtop HD, Facebook and pretty much every google Apps. (chrome to phone, translate, maps, etc etc)
Unless you're a super reckless user, a screen protector isn't going to be necessary (and is sometimes ugly/degrades screen quality). It's really hard to scratch this screen, and other ones like it.
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File manager HD (a file explorer, better than Asus's one)
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I second that.
Newsr (a google reader better than google reader)
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I would reconsider. Newsr is really buggy and slow, crashes a lot and behaves very strange when you start it before WiFi is connected. I didn't find anything better though.
For me most important are also:
- ezPDF - I don't know any better app for PDFs on any system or device (great for taking notes on books or writing answers in exercise books for school).
- Writepad Stylus - for writing (not perfect, but the best I found, if you are buying Adonit Jot, you will find it useful),
The rest for me is mostly games. Cut the Rope is the "must play". Dizzy is the "greatest but probably only appreciated by fans of the original".
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Unless you're a super reckless user, a screen protector isn't going to be necessary (and is sometimes ugly/degrades screen quality). It's really hard to scratch this screen, and other ones like it.
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I agree. I've had my Galaxy S (Gorilla Glass screen, like the Prime) in my pocket "unprotected" for about 18 months now, and although I was anxious at first, I haven't noticed any scratching of the screen. Screen protectors might have been recommended for resistive touchscreens, but I don't think they're necessary with capacitive touchscreens, because the glass is tough enough already.
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I would reconsider. Newsr is really buggy and slow, crashes a lot and behaves very strange when you start it before WiFi is connected. I didn't find anything better though.
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Weird, I don't have any problem at all with newsr. Butter smooth, fast feed load, super stable, not a single crash. Sure if you re offline it doesn't login but that's expected from a RSS reader and nothing strange happen, just a message saying that you need an internet connexion.
I wonder why you seem to have problem with it.
One of the main reasons why I got a tablet was for the purpose of carrying one tablet instead of 5+ school books.
While I am still looking for the books I want, I am just wondering if when I get them and by chance highlight them.. if I export them to my computer before loading a rom..
Will it save the highlights and what not?
i don't know if your highlights will still be there if you export the books to a computer but i dont think you really need to. I have used a couple of roms while on gingerbread and all of my annotations survived. even when I upgraded to honeycomb via globatron's method I was happy to see all of my books with all of my annotations. one time I even cleared the data in the reader app and found all of my books deleted and the books that come installed on the flyer back on my tablet (I had deleted them previously). after panicking I rebooted and was happy to see all of my books with the annotations back on my flyer. I am not really clear where they get stored (because I think I even changed SD cards during this time but I am not sure of this) but all I know is if I can't find them I reboot and they reappear automagically lol. maybe they are stored on the internal SD card which doesn't get touched when flashing.
Some of it will depend on what format the books are in. PDFs for example only saved annotations when I explicitly saved the file.
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Some of it will depend on what format the books are in. PDFs for example only saved annotations when I explicitly saved the file.
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Good point. I was referring to the reader app and EPUBS. But i believe once you save the PDF file after making annotations that there isn't a need to export them to an external computer. I think once they are saved they will be able to be recovered along with the annotations upon reboot just like the EPUBS. In fact I just looked at a book in the PDF format that I annotated before I even rooted the flyer (these annotations had the fat pen issue - which is what made me root the flyer in the first place) and all the annotations are still there. So they survived rooting, placing custom Roms while on gingerbread and then upgrading to Honeycomb via globatron's method. You can always do a test on one PDF and/or one EPUB prior to installing a rom just to be sure.
At the moment I think you are better off with an IPad for school. You pick up ipad1s pretty cheap and soon iPad2s. How I wish there was an iAnnotate app for Android with the pen usage.
In one year Android Tabs have come a long way and I'm loving my view and hardly use my iPad. I doubt I will be upgrading to Ipad3 since android is tabs are getting Sooo much better.
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At the moment I think you are better off with an IPad for school. You pick up ipad1s pretty cheap and soon iPad2s. How I wish there was an iAnnotate app for Android with the pen usage.
In one year Android Tabs have come a long way and I'm loving my view and hardly use my iPad. I doubt I will be upgrading to Ipad3 since android is tabs are getting Sooo much better.
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So if you are loving your view, AND there is a means of annotating books with it already, AND you hardly use your IPAD since you got your view, why would you recommend that he get an IPAD?
I currently do not need note taking in PDF so I really do not need the ipad. If I was taking classes, I would be using my Ipad for that.
Who let the iPad guy in here? Maybe we need to review the site security
my only point is that some apps save the notifications when they're made, some require you to same them manually and some will depend on how you initiate them.
If you know what formats you are planning to work with it is easier to get more specific recommendations.
yea what's up with the IPAD guy, jk. one thing i appreciate about the flyer/view forum is that we don't get into "this is better than that" drivel. i was just curious as to why he would recommend the IPAD when the OP was asking about saving his annotations for a device that he already has purchased for a very specific purpose?
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At the moment I think you are better off with an IPad for school. You pick up ipad1s pretty cheap and soon iPad2s. How I wish there was an iAnnotate app for Android with the pen usage.
In one year Android Tabs have come a long way and I'm loving my view and hardly use my iPad. I doubt I will be upgrading to Ipad3 since android is tabs are getting Sooo much better.
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I'd rather carry my books than buy an ipad.
So please, if you have nothing to contribute to the conversation in the way of useful information, don't sidetrack the serious conversation with talk of ipad.
I am glad you happen to like your ipad, but I'd sooner not use a tablet than use an ipad. I hate dumbed down software.
back to the issue at hand. are you looking to download books into PDF files or EPUBS? I find the PDF reader keeps the format of the publication - which is better for publications that are heavily illustrated like magazines or brochures. but the epub reader is more efficient for annotating because not only can you highlight or write right on the page but you can even attach notes to what you highlighted. plus you can easily locate and retrieve your annotations as they are kept separately in its own category within each book (highlights, what you wrote, and notes)
Ah. Thanks for the heads up on that. I may play around with both formats.
Any idea if the kindle and nook apps support highlighting and what not? I've considered using them to get at least some of my books.