I've tried some of the SIP apps, some of which worked OK, Csimple was the most reliable but iffy at best even on Wifi.
The built in SIP support seems good, perfect quality on Wifi, however it won't work over 4G or 3G.
Is there any known ways to get it to work on 4G/3G? I understand it will have an impact on quality, but I'd still like to test it.
Also, if it's not an option now, can a mod be made after root becomes available to allow built-in SIP over 4G/3G?
Thanks!
Since we now have S-OFF, any thoughts or feedback on being able to modify the phone to allow native android SIP/Internet calls over the 3G/4G network?
Still curious if anyone has looked at this. I'm sure more then a few people use SIP and would like to use the integrated SIP functions over a 3rd party app.
Does Google Voice support SIP? If so, I'd rather do all my calls over 3G if I could... that way I could have simultaneous voice/data on 3G
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Samsung Galaxy SII is supposed to support video calls through 3G communications. I have read someone having trouble with video calls. Anyone got it to work?
Video calls through 3G communication is supposed to work with any 3G phone, regardless if its Android, Symbian, or whatever mobile OS on it. Apple made their own solution with FaceTime, and I know google has its own solution GTalk? as well.
I think it is superfluous that Google should make their own solution like Apple did as it does not support interoperability between 3G devices. Voice and video calls are normal mobile communication methods that should not have different implementation that whats in the 3G standard.
Apparently it's all dependent on your network. Give them a ring and they'll probably tell you it needs to be enabled.
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Apparently it's all dependent on your network. Give them a ring and they'll probably tell you it needs to be enabled.
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Well, all networks in Norway supports video calls. I would also think its is supported in most countries in Europe.
I have a Google Voice number local to my area code that forward to my pbxes.org account, which in turn takes the call and sends it to my phone via the SipDroid app. I can make incoming/outgoing calls all day long for free, but have a problem with call quality.
I have linked two voicemail files. I placed a call from SipDroid out to the same number in both cases, but one was done over WiFi and the other over 3G (2-3 bars, average signal). The WiFi one is acceptable, but the 3G one is not. Listen for yourself (For the message, I read one of the opening paragraphs from the US Declaration of Independence, same on both so you can compare accurately.)
Setup: Google Voice number -> pbxes.org -> SipDroid app
Wifi VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-wifi.wav
3G VOIP Voicemail: http://www.corusa.com/public/voip-3g.wav
Now, with that said you need to understand my intent. I am wanting to use my Google Voice number for work, as my off-hours support phone, so I do not accrue charges on my personal cell plan (not covered by employer, and they do not provide work mobile phones). So, since I am usually on the go, I will not be connected to WiFi, thus I need a reliable VOIP option that will get acceptable call quality over 3G. There are multiple options out there, and I do not have a problem with a monthly fee, but they all come with caveats. For example, if I got an "Online Number" from Skype, and just forwarded my Google Voice number to that, it would work through the Skype app, no SIP app needed; however, the Skype voicemail cannot be disabled, so I can no longer use the Google Voice app to easily see my support calls/messages from my home screen. I have use the Skype app (or website) to listen to voicemails. Skype would solve my quality problem (based on reviews of other users that use it over 3G), but introduce the new voicemail issue. The setup I have now (GV->pbxes->SipDroid) allows me to use the GV voicemail, but quality is lacking...catch 22. Is there a better more reliable solution out there for VOIP on Android? I am fine with paying
There's also the Google Callback app, that I have been trying to avoid at all costs, since it is kind of hokey, and I tried the GrooVe IP app, but it has a lot of echo for the person I am calling, and no setting change could fix it.
p.s. - I will be updating my phone from the DroidX (3G only) to the Bionic (4G). If you think that will make a difference, and make all my concerns moot, then just say so, and that's what I'll do
Thanks!!
Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Since you mentioned GrooVe IP, figured I'd respond. Did you try the echo canceler setting in the GrooVe IP audio/echo settings? Enabling that should get rid of echo heard by the person you're talking to. And/Or reducing the mic gain & speaker volume.
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Already tried that, and every option in between, including the manual millisecond settings.
Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber has amazing quality...not sure if you can use it over 3g or 4g though.
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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Viber is not a true VOIP solution, as you can only call other people using the Viber app. Here's an excerpt from the Viber FAQ...
Q: Can I call people who don't have Viber?
A: Yes, if the person you're calling doesn't have Viber, the call will be placed like *regular call, but don't forget to invite your friends to Viber so your next call is free . *Regular calls are calls placed through your cell phone service provider, using your cell phone rate plan.
That's pointless...I need to call any phone number (land line, mobile, cell, work, etc) in the USA from my Google voice number using only a 3G/4G connection. I really need to find that one or two providers that use a low enough bitrate for voice that can work fine on 3G without being echoey or choppy (this is why I posted the 3G sample voice-mail above). I would just install the Google Voice callback app, but I do not have a 'Friends & Family' option for my cell plan to add my GV number to, which is essential for that to be feasible.
Is this really not something a lot of people have dealt with? I know I am not the first person in the world who has tried to call via VOIP over 3G - the technology has been around forever. Anyway, still need an answer if anyone has one
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I'm also an early adapter of GV voip service.
I'm using Dell streak 7 (dual core 512 mb ram, horrible software config, honeycomb 3.2)
I manage to have stable voip quality with clear portable 4g hotspot connected through wifi. Unlimited calls and data, pretty cool. However, talking through a bluetooth device and 3GHSPA+ have been horrible. My friends keep complaining about bad call quality until I find this issues. If calling through wifi (I use groove ip) with internal mic and speaker, everything is fine. I guess it's either due to bad hardware coding of the streak 7 or due to the narrow bandwith of the bluetooth 2.1 or 3G. I'm not familiar with the tech details of streak 7.
I'm gonna try the new nexus 7 and sony xperia z ultra to see if any issues above can be solved.
If I root it, can I somehow find a way to make a phone call? Thanks.
You can send and receive phone calls with Groove IP. You don't have to have root, but you have to have a data connection (3g/wifi).
Or you can use talkatone...
I know there are apps like that. But is there a way to use a normal phone call without a data plan?
Is it hardware problem? Or just the tab didn't come with phone app?
groove IP and talkatone only needs wifi... im using both now on my tablet s... all you need is a google voice number and wifi connection... talkatone seems to have a better sound quality but both have about 1/2 second lag on voice...
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I know there are apps like that. But is there a way to use a normal phone call without a data plan?
Is it hardware problem? Or just the tab didn't come with phone app?
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It's not possible. There are all kinds of problems with this.
For one, there's no hardware. Phones need all kinds of things; special antennae, special modems, basebands, and radios. Although the 3G version of the Tablet would have some of these things, I doubt they are set up for telephony.
Biggest one, however, is the complete lack of software support. Honeycomb (and ICS in tablet-mode), do not feature any of the phone support included in handset releases of Android. There's no phone.apk or any of the other system files required to make phone calls.
So barring any kind of radical upgrade from Sony, or a complete fluke with hardware and better custom ROM support, Voice over IP is your only real option.
OK that's clear now. I read the specification at http://www.gsmarena.com/sony_tablet_s_3g-4138.php it told you that this tablet has no GPRS and EDGE.
Is it means that you can't use internet connection if your place is out of 3G coverage?
thats not true...the 3g version has 2g too...so gprs and edge...i dont know why sony in not fixing the technical details...
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If you're using Advanced Calling feature, please share your experience. Like, dislike, what affect it has on other things (if any), etc.
Thank you.
If you are talking about the phone call over WiFi, I had it on for a few calls and thought the quality was not very good so I turned it off.
No, Advanced Calling (AC) is voice over LTE tech. The LG V10 can't do simultaneous voice and data (i.e. using a web search while on a call) unless AC is turned on.
Here's info from Verizon:
Advanced Calling 1.0 for Android Devices FAQs
What is Advanced Calling?
For Apple devices, check out our Advanced Calling 1.0 for Apple devices FAQs.
Advanced Calling 1.0 is a first generation suite of services enabled by VoLTE (Voice over LTE) technology. VoLTE is a new technology platform that delivers voice calls over the 4G LTE network instead of the traditional voice network.
The benefits of Advanced Calling 1.0 include:
HD Voice
1-way or 2-way video calls* (including support for video calls over Wi-Fi)
6-way conference calls
Simultaneous voice and 4G LTE data**
*Note: Not all Advanced Calling 1.0-capable devices support Video Calling.
**Note: Most 4G LTE Android smartphones today already support simultaneous voice and LTE data without Advanced Calling 1.0. However, some newer Advanced Calling 1.0-capable devices such as the Droid Turbo by Motorola do not support simultaneous voice and LTE data unless Advanced Calling 1.0 is activated.
What is HD Voice?
HD Voice delivers clearer, natural-sounding audio when both parties are using HD Voice-enabled phones that are connected to our 4G LTE network.
HD Voice is included in your existing voice plan at no additional charge, but must be added to your account in My Verizon. HD Voice calls are billed as standard voice minutes, according to your plan.
What is Video Calling?
Video Calling is a feature that lets you make an HD Voice call combined with real-time video.
Making video calls is as simple and easy as making traditional voice calls. If the person you're calling can accept a video call, you'll see a Camera icon. You can then select that icon to upgrade to a video call. There's no need to download an app or set up a new user ID to place a video call.
Notes:
Video Calling requires a Video Calling-enabled phone.
When connected to Verizon's 4G LTE network and known Wi-Fi access points, video calls will automatically hand off to Wi-Fi.
What is simultaneous voice and LTE data?
Simultaneous voice and 4G LTE data allows customers connected to Verizon's 4G LTE network to surf the web, continue a download, use an application, or use a feature like Mobile Hotspot while talking on a call.
Who's eligible for Advanced Calling 1.0?
To be eligible for Advanced Calling 1.0, you need to meet all of the following requirements:
Be on a standard monthly plan*
Have an HD Voice-capable phone
Note: If you have any features that are incompatible with Advanced Calling 1.0, you'll need to remove them when you add the HD Voice feature to your account.
* Prepaid accounts aren't eligible for Advanced Calling 1.0 at this time.
Which devices support Advanced Calling 1.0?
You can view our current list of phones compatible with Advanced Calling 1.0 online. This list will grow over time.
How much does Advanced Calling 1.0 cost?
Advanced Calling 1.0 is available at no additional charge, and HD Voice is included in existing plans.
HD Voice calls are billed as standard voice calls according to your plan. No data charges apply.
Mobile-to-Mobile calls that happen to be HD Voice calls are charged just like traditional Mobile-to-Mobile calls and are billed against your monthly minute allowance according to your plan.
A video call is an HD Voice call combined with real-time video. The voice portion is billed as a standard voice call, according to your plan. The video portion is billed as data, according to your data plan. No data charges apply to video calls transmitted over Wi-Fi.
Note: An average 1-minute video call uses about 6 - 8 MB of data. The actual data consumption of your video call may vary. You can estimate your data usage using our online Data Usage Calculator.
I use it all the time. I would not get a phone that I could not talk on and use the internet simultaneously. I don't have any issues with voice quality.
AndroidCraig said:
I use it all the time. I would not get a phone that I could not talk on and use the internet simultaneously. I don't have any issues with voice quality.
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Great, thank you!
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If you're using Advanced Calling feature, please share your experience. Like, dislike, what affect it has on other things (if any), etc.
Thank you.
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For me, I felt the call audio was a little soft/tinny (not sure how to describe it) and thought it odd that the call audio on a phone like this wasn't better so I thought I'd give it a try and activated it late last week. At first, I wasn't sure I could tell a difference but then noticed that the clarity of the audio on phone calls seems to be improved - i.e. instead of the call sounding distant/tinny, it seemed to "feel" closer, with better audio clarity.
Maybe it's a placebo affect but I can say I'm happier with the call quality after activating it. Plus, what can it hurt...it's a feature Verizon is offering for free!
When I use advance calling for some reason on BT the names aren't displayed on my vehicle screen, only the phone number shows up. If I turn it off it will display the name of the call coming in or going out. Anyone else have this happen?
My family won't talk to me with it on. They sound great to me but I sound like I am in a tunnel.
But with it off no data while in a call.
This is might be a deal killer with this phone...
I rarely had dropped calls until using AC. Coupled with weird sound quality, I call it At&t Calling. ?
Couple observations
-I maybe incorrect on this, but I believe that in order for voLTE to actually work, BOTH parties in a call need to have it - service availability and a compatible phone. So I'm not sure whether most people weighing in actually know for certain if they've actually had a VOLTE call or not.
- In a post elsewhere another user blamed voLTE for increasing battery drain rate. Certainly seems plausible, but if true, that would be truly unfortunate because apparently disabling it prevents simultaneous data and voice - an issue I've never had to deal with before.
- this might not be relevant to many, but I was pulling my hair out trying to determine why my location-based profile app (Llama) as well as similar apps that use cell tower polling to determine location at low battery cost, were not able to read any cell tower IDs - until I disabled Advanced Calling and then low and behold they worked again.
I'm dubious of AC at this point, and curious to hear more people's experience.
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I came from the G3 which allowed simultaneous voice and data but never really used it. What I think is that we should AT MINIMUM be able to use Maps and be on a call without losing out directions as now Maps directions stop if you get a call. I really don't think GPS directions should be using data anyway. I will not be enabling AC until it works with Ring Back Tones or it is something that I can't avoid.
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I use it, but so far the only person I've been able to talk to using HD voice is my girlfriend and that's only because I activated it on her phone. It sounds a lot different, but it's hard to explain what it's like. It's almost like you're talking to someone right next to you, but your in a glass box. There's this weird difference that I can't put my finger on what it is exactly but it seems the sound of emptiness is clearer in the background.
Quick update, it's awful if you don't have a decent data connection. We were talking while she was in the gym and it sounded so bad. She would cut out randomly, or sound way softer than normal and I couldn't understand anything. It's OK at best, but I think I prefer traditional calling.
I am suspicious of it causing my voice to echo. It doesn't always happen but since I've left it on for a while, I've heard my own voice very frequently. The other party, who probably isn't using AC has never commented on an echo and I assume they're not hearing it.
I have it activated on my phone as well as my wife's; i've only talked to her using AC. It sounds very much like talking to someone over Skype, Hangouts, etc. Sometimes it seems very clear and easier to hear the other person, then other times it will "pixelate" the sound, which is also something that most people that have used Skype, etc have experiences. I've never had any voice echoing though. I would never pay for this feature, but it is the only way we can use data and voice simultaneously.
It was also needlessly difficult to enable this feature on my wifes G4. I was able to activate it on my V10 no prob, but could not do it on the G4. Finally called VZW and after 10 minutes with an L2 support guy it was enabled. Something was messed up on their end.
I'm unable to activate it on my phone. My 'Advanced Calling' screen just says "upgrade service to..." but I activated it online in my Verizon account 8 hours and about 3 reboots ago. Any ideas?
I can't believe a device in 2015 is incapable of simultaneous voice and data. Verizon forcing this single antenna path on us is pretty ridiculous. I use tethering a lot and I also look things up for my parents while talking to them. Are these use cases really that rare that no one complains?
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I'm unable to activate it on my phone. My 'Advanced Calling' screen just says "upgrade service to..." but I activated it online in my Verizon account 8 hours and about 3 reboots ago. Any ideas?
I can't believe a device in 2015 is incapable of simultaneous voice and data. Verizon forcing this single antenna path on us is pretty ridiculous. I use tethering a lot and I also look things up for my parents while talking to them. Are these use cases really that rare that no one complains?
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Ok this happened to me and what the problem was my advanced calling got corrupt and Verizon on there end had to remove my advanced calling and add it back to my account and then I restarted and all my options displayed right
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I'm unable to activate it on my phone. My 'Advanced Calling' screen just says "upgrade service to..." but I activated it online in my Verizon account 8 hours and about 3 reboots ago. Any ideas?
I can't believe a device in 2015 is incapable of simultaneous voice and data. Verizon forcing this single antenna path on us is pretty ridiculous. I use tethering a lot and I also look things up for my parents while talking to them. Are these use cases really that rare that no one complains?
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Honestly, no they are not that rare. I've used data while talking on my note 3 and LG G3. This makes me want to sell the lg v10. That's excluding the fact I can't get txts after root working and no I don't want to use HD calling and it's not on my plan.
Ok guys I got a question!! I rooted my v10 on 5.1.1 and had my A/C calling on when I flashed the upgrade root package. phone started to get a bit buggie after awhile so I did a factory reset lost my A/C so I unrooted and try to reactivate it was a no go. I disabled it from my line then tried again and again and again. Did this for about 3 hours finally call Verizon they tried to help but there useless considering there reading from a script. So now I'm back to root with no A/C. I really like my A/C and they want me to update to 6.0 and I'm not giving up root no way in hell am I doing that does anyone know of a work around. I got a new SIM card coming in from Verizon hoping that may fix it. Any and all help is very much appreciated!!
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Hello,
I would like to know if there is a way, setting, app, hack or workaround for calling via VoIP to a non-VoIP user from an Android smartphone using 3G/EDGE without charging you minutes, just using MB.
Thanks
The simplest way to do this is to use the Google Hangouts Dialer app.
This will only work in 3G, not EDGE unless you have a really really good connection.
I also don't know if this will work outside the USA - which country are you in?
Ok I will give it a try, I am a bit afraid of google recording everything that drops by it's servers though.
I live in Spain.