If you wish to find if something is idiot proof, I am that man. The simple becomes not so simple when these fingers decided to touch the computer *sigh*. Anyone else who is like me follow along, learn from my mistakes.
Backstory: I’ve been doing a lot of reading before I decided to embark on this adventure of rooting and unlocking the Bell Galaxy 2. Lots of videos and reading forms etc, for basically a 40 second produce. Thinking I have a grasp, I bought my SG2 from Best Buy Tuesday, then the hair pulling began.
Technical: Everything is being performed on Windows 7 64bit platform
Step 1: The first thing I did was went here to get the insecure root and Odin….verified on the phone it would be the KG2 code I would need
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
Downloaded: Odein3-v1.85.zip
Downloaded: CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
Step 2: Downloading Superoneclick
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
Downloaded: v1.9.5
Step 3: With all the applications on hand, I began the process.
-Loading the insecure root through Odin was not an issue, it ran smoothly.
Problem: Superoneclick hanging error message : “peneuter running”
The problem happens after I closed Odin and Run superoneclick. The program runs then hangs with the message “peneuter running” It has a message in the window along the lines “if program is haning turn off degbug mode”, how can you do that that when the usb cable is attached to the phone? The phone simply wont let you do it in the settings. It says “usb cable has to be unplugged”...am i missing something here?
Personal troubleshooting attempts:
Attempt 1 – Thinking it might be the version of superoneclick that might be the issue I downloaded:
SuperOneClickv1.7-ShortFuse.zip
Ran the application with similar results. Hanging with the same message.
Attempt 2 – Diging through forms I read that some people managed to root it using a different insecure root:
CF-Root-SGS2_JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip (which is the current root on the phone now)
Downloaded, applied it using Oden without any problems used Superoneclick v1.9.5, the same problem, hanging with the message "psneuter running....".
I'm at my wits end. If anyone could provide some assistance it would be of great help.
Am I missing something here? Flashing CF's kernel already gives you root. It is redundant to install SuperOneClick afterwards.
it looks like you are following the instructions from this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1056334
But at the beginning of the first post in that thread it says dont use that anymore, use this one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
full disclosure: i haven't attempted either of these yet
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Am I missing something here? Flashing CF's kernel already gives you root. It is redundant to install SuperOneClick afterwards.
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Correct! You need one or the other. NOT BOTH.
Lesson Learned Tip 1 - Flashing CF's kernel gives you root
Thanks for that statement (I don’t mean that sarcastically), you spelt it out ….I was constantly bombarded was tutorials one needed to run superoneclick to root. When you load the CF kernel it already has the root built into it.
Lesson Learned Tip 1 - Flashing CF's kernel gives you root
If you don’t mind I would like to ask a couple other questions that it would be great to have a direct answer: I’m sure it will also benefit other users
Question : When Selecting A CF Kernal at the moment there are 3 options: (for bell sg2)
CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
Is there a difference between them, and which is recommended for users to select to make the next step/question easier ie unlocking.
kennypowersnow said:
Thanks for that statement (I don’t mean that sarcastically), you spelt it out ….I was constantly bombarded was tutorials one needed to run superoneclick to root. When you load the CF kernel it already has the root built into it.
Lesson Learned Tip 1 - Flashing CF's kernel gives you root
If you don’t mind I would like to ask a couple other questions that it would be great to have a direct answer: I’m sure it will also benefit other users
Question : When Selecting A CF Kernal at the moment there are 3 options: (for bell sg2)
CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
Is there a difference between them, and which is recommended for users to select to make the next step/question easier ie unlocking.
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I'm trying to figure this out right now too.
CF-Root-SGS2_JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip Does the JP mean Japan? What's the most suitable one for us Canadians?
kennypowersnow said:
Thanks for that statement (I don’t mean that sarcastically), you spelt it out ….I was constantly bombarded was tutorials one needed to run superoneclick to root. When you load the CF kernel it already has the root built into it.
Lesson Learned Tip 1 - Flashing CF's kernel gives you root
If you don’t mind I would like to ask a couple other questions that it would be great to have a direct answer: I’m sure it will also benefit other users
Question : When Selecting A CF Kernal at the moment there are 3 options: (for bell sg2)
CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
Is there a difference between them, and which is recommended for users to select to make the next step/question easier ie unlocking.
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I rooted mine using CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip. I can't comment on the others since I didn't need to flash them. As far as unlocking, try to use the Sim Unlock Code Finder app created by the same Dev that gave you the aforementioned kernels. I've heard of varying success coming from the UGKG2 (Bell phone) users. You can get the app from here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092451
Unlocking Program For Bell SG2
After some reading, another popular unlock program is Galaxy_S Unlock by Helroz
Has anyone unlock the Bell SG2 with this program?
kennypowersnow said:
After some reading, another popular unlock program is Galaxy_S Unlock by Helroz
Has anyone unlock the Bell SG2 with this program?
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This is the recommended unlock method for Canadian SGS2 models.
kennypowersnow said:
Thanks for that statement (I don’t mean that sarcastically), you spelt it out ….I was constantly bombarded was tutorials one needed to run superoneclick to root. When you load the CF kernel it already has the root built into it.
Lesson Learned Tip 1 - Flashing CF's kernel gives you root
If you don’t mind I would like to ask a couple other questions that it would be great to have a direct answer: I’m sure it will also benefit other users
Question : When Selecting A CF Kernal at the moment there are 3 options: (for bell sg2)
CF-Root-SGS2_ZS_OZS_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_JP_XSG_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
CF-Root-SGS2_XX_OXA_KG2-v4.1-CWM4.zip
Is there a difference between them, and which is recommended for users to select to make the next step/question easier ie unlocking.
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Makes no difference really. The most important part is matching the KG2 part.
Mikroft said:
Makes no difference really. The most important part is matching the KG2 part.
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Ok, let me start this off by explaining something.....
The rom letter versions are actually based upon 5 letters, not 3. There are several variants of KG2. Basically, the Samsung naming convention is as follows:
Model name: I9100M
Provider/Area: UG (Bell/Virgin/Sasktel)
Rom Version: KG2
Now, the rom version can get broken down into each letter as well...
K = 2011
G = July
2 = 2nd version that month.
All area's roms are developed completely separate from each other...
Ours is UGKG2. Which is unavailable for download from the Samsung servers, so we're not able to actually get back to stock, or make any kind of custom firmwares/kernels based upon it.
All the other ones, including ZS, JP, and XX are completely different roms and kernels than what we have on our Bell phones.
So, in actual fact, it's not at all important. The KG2 that either of those 3 kernels are based on are either 2.3.4 roms or different 2.3.3 roms. So, matching that is no different than installing a KG1 or KG3 or any KF* CF-Root kernels. ChainFire has not made a CF-Root based upon UGKG2 yet, so no matter what one you install, it's not based upon our rom, meaning you can basically install ANY CF-Root Kernel and as long as your phone still works with it, it doesn't matter. All the roms are completely different and the naming convention has nothing to do with each other unless all 5 letters/numbers match up.
However, I suggest installing a 2.3.3 kernel as that's the UGKG2 Android version.
Noob question..
Is there any benefit to the CF-root compared to a straight up plain root ... is there any advantages/disadvantages (if I do CF-root am I restricted from doing certain things)
Thanks for any help
CF-Root is a plain root, though it has some added functionality in the form of a bundled version of CWM and Busybox. Doesn't restrict anything.
"Trimming the fat" (Bell SG2"
I would like to thank the senior guys for taking the time to answer the questions that are being thrown out there....
If people are following along and they picked their CF- and unlocked their phone, they will be face with a great nuisance, bloatware, bell had to install to leave their mark.
It's like buying a brand new car, only to find someone been using the back seat as a hotel.
From reading, here are the options that ive come across, maybe someone might be able to point me the right way.
Option 1: Lite'ning Rom v4.2 XXKG3 - Fast as Lightning
Yes another custom ROM with everything striped right down to the bare bones. Use Odin and bam fast and no bloat, correct?.....from reading issues people are having at the moment kinda worries me at the moment...ie dropping signal sticking browser etc..... Again this is just what im reading. Has anyone used this and what are their thoughts on it? is it stable enough for the average joe to load and not be worried?
Option 2: Titanium backup or System App Remover
was reading this is more a manual hands on pick and choose what to get rid off.
would have to investigate which files are critical and which are not....and u better not pick the wrong file or you're in trouble
Option 3: ive seen "bloadware" remover scripts on xda, are they any good?
Question: what is the best plan of attack to address the bloatware issue with with a newly rooted/unlocked Bell SG2?
I unlocked a Bell phone, running great on Telus. Bloatware was mostly Samsung. First download was Launcher Pro. That made the desktop nice and clean.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
From what I was reading about laucher pro, it makes the desktop nice, but it does not delete the Samsung junk, like crappy social hubs, games, etc and bell junk ie Bell remote, and streaming etc.
Am I wrong in my understanding of this?
kennypowersnow said:
From what I was reading about laucher pro, it makes the desktop nice, but it does not delete the Samsung junk, like crappy social hubs, games, etc and bell junk ie Bell remote, and streaming etc.
Am I wrong in my understanding of this?
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Not wrong at all. But those apps don't run by themselves. They're just there in your app drawer doing nothing. So unless the icons that are hidden 95% of the time bother you, what's the big deal? Personally, I much prefer to have a warranty than to get rid of apps that I never have to click on.
Installed ADW Launcher EX on mine last night. LOVE IT. Also running the same launcher on my tablet.
I flashed the "JP" kernel with the Virgin Mobile version of the phone I got, which starts off with the same kernel as Bell.
Everything is working nicely on Rogers.
help
toiler1 said:
I unlocked a Bell phone, running great on Telus. Bloatware was mostly Samsung. First download was Launcher Pro. That made the desktop nice and clean.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using XDA Premium App
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i would like to know how to unlock this and run on telus. please email me with help on which tutorial and which kernel you used for this. please... thank you.
Related
Although I've flashed non-phone devices in the past (routers, PAP2, Ipod classic, etc.) This is the first time I'm going to be flashing a SmartPhone that I've ordered which I should be getting very soon.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S II and have been crawling the forum trying to learn all I can before I try rooting and unlocking my phone when I get it. But I'm having trouble deciding on a few things.
Hopefully my question can become a guide for other new people who are just starting off like me.
Rooting:
To begin, I'm trying to figure out what's best for rooting.
I've looked at a few different methods..
Chainfire's direct method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
lyriquidperfection's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
CLShortFuse's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
LitePro's ROM and Root method all-in-one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
All of these have their own merits. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach for myself.
Although Lightn'ing (LitePro's) looks interesting and I may try that ROM later, for now I want to avoid changing the ROM till I know I like the phone. So I'm looking at the first three choices.
The one that I think I would be able to do easiest is either lyriquidperfection's or CLShortFuse's methods as they both are one-click solutions and I just need to grab the right kernels.
I don't know if there's any reason I would want to go with Chainfire's instead of the two previously mentioned. If there is please let me know.
I asked this question on the respective threads but as of posting haven't gotten an answer of if there's any reason to flash the original kernel back after rooting and if I keep root if I flash it back.
I also don't know much about the use of Jigs to avoid the flash counter going up. Is there any reason I need to worry about the flash counter going up? Is there a limit on number of flashes on a phone?
Unlocking:
For unlocking I looked at:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092451
However it seems for my specific phone (Virgin/Bell) we use this method as posted in the same thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=16482293#post16482293
This seems pretty much straight-forward. I just got to root the phone then get and run the app mentioned. Phone will crash/reboot and then no SIM lock.
If there's anything that seems wrong with this let me know please.
Other stuff:
At some stage here I want to be able to back up the stuff on the phone and get other typical tools.
I keep hearing about ClockWorkMod constantly and it seems to be a tool for backing up the phone data and making it easier to flash stuff in without use of ODIN.
I haven't found clear documentation on how I would do this on the SGII specifically.
I also here Titanium backup (sp?) is also a good idea to install at some point.
Is there other apps or otherwise I should be looking into before I start this journey into the wonderful world of hacked smartphones?
-This is a place marker for me making amendments so that later this may be more or less a guide for other beginners-
Dav_Edward said:
Although I've flashed non-phone devices in the past (routers, PAP2, Ipod classic, etc.) This is the first time I'm going to be flashing a SmartPhone that I've ordered which I should be getting very soon.
I ordered a Samsung Galaxy S II and have been crawling the forum trying to learn all I can before I try rooting and unlocking my phone when I get it. But I'm having trouble deciding on a few things.
Hopefully my question can become a guide for other new people who are just starting off like me.
Rooting:
To begin, I'm trying to figure out what's best for rooting.
I've looked at a few different methods..
Chainfire's direct method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
lyriquidperfection's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125414
CLShortFuse's one-click method: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682
LitePro's ROM and Root method all-in-one: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1095274
All of these have their own merits. But I'm trying to figure out the best approach for myself.
Chainfires simplest method less problems for most .
Root + CWM .
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1103399
I also don't know much about the use of Jigs to avoid the flash counter going up. Is there any reason I need to worry about the flash counter going up? Is there a limit on number of flashes on a phone?
Zero as Samsung will invalidate warranty for custom roms or rooted phones .
Other stuff:
At some stage here I want to be able to back up the stuff on the phone and get other typical tools.
I keep hearing about ClockWorkMod constantly and it seems to be a tool for backing up the phone data and making it easier to flash stuff in without use of ODIN.
I haven't found clear documentation on how I would do this on the SGII specifically.
Their is no documentation its probably written up in the FAQ or Wip but is a relativity simple tool anyway .Backup restore phones rom install custom rom wipe data factory reset reset battery stats to zero .
FAQ
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1065995
Wip
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1125282
I also here Titanium backup (sp?) is also a good idea to install at some point.
On a rooted phone Titanium pro allows you to back up your apps and also to freeze apps .
jje
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Thorough stuff, props to you sir - you know search so you'll get your first thanks...
I would advice you to go with Chainfire's method. It's the easiest and most versatile method IMO. Definitely the best for beginners because you keep your stock ROM yet still are rooted and get Clockwork Mod.
The installed CWM (Clockwork Mod) Manager app with Chainfire's work is an easy way to see what it does - basically you can backup and restore your whole system/device, plus flash custom ROM/kernels/themes etc. Look into the flashing part later - baby steps are good here!
Titanium Backup is an excellent backup app for backing up/restoring apps and data, as opposed to the whole system. Buy the Pro version, definitely worth it.
I also like My Backup (also on Market), excellent for backing up contacts/SMS/MMS. The free version is a 30 day trial.
Can't help with unlocking, never needed to - sure others can help.
Good luck
Edit - JJ beat me too it, hadn't seen his post. Must type faster...
@JJEgan & @B3311, thanks for the useful information.
I was going to try those one-click methods because I thought those were the more newbie friendly methods. Thanks for the information to try using Chainfire's instead.
I will try using Chainfire's method instead with your advice when I get the phone. Having the tools like his CWM hopefully will make things easier.
I am a bit concerned though about his mention that Rom Loader won't work with his version of the build. I'd still like the ability to use custom roms down the road once I learn how to properly back up the phone so I can experiment with various roms till I find the one I like most.
Any advice about using rom loader or other possible difficulties using Chainfire's kernel?
Dav_Edward said:
@JJEgan & @B3311, thanks for the useful information.
I was going to try those one-click methods because I thought those were the more newbie friendly methods. Thanks for the information to try using Chainfire's instead.
I will try using Chainfire's method instead with your advice when I get the phone. Having the tools like his CWM hopefully will make things easier.
I am a bit concerned though about his mention that Rom Loader won't work with his version of the build. I'd still like the ability to use custom roms down the road once I learn how to properly back up the phone so I can experiment with various roms till I find the one I like most.
Any advice about using rom loader or other possible difficulties using Chainfire's kernel?
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Most just put custom rom on sd card and flash via CWM .
Sorry no nothing about Rom Loader .
jje
I would also advice using CF-Root. I was scared of rooting my phone, but after using CF-Root, I don’t know why I was so scared. The process took a little over 30 seconds (I need practice). To me at lease I think it’s the easiest method, you just need to make sure to download the right kernel.
EDIT:
Get a UBS jig, After rooting, I had the "yellow triangle" I turned off phone, removed battery, inserted jig, put back battery, entered download mode, restarted phone and no more "yellow triangle"
i was originally on at&t 2.3.6 firmware, after rooted it and unlock the bootloader i decided to install the "DarkSide" rom on prefinal version and it worked fine (minor bugs), but my question is that if i decide to install the latest version of alien (which i have heard the version in minor of 2.3.6), could cause me any kind of brick???
i am really new on all of this and i don't want to screw anything
Thanks in Advance.
If you've unlocked the bootloader, it shouldn't have a problem. I say shouldn't because there's always a small chance that something can happen. But to be honest, bricks usually happen when users don't follow instructions or read warnings, at least in my experience.
First rule of thumb when end user hacking or softmodding any device, be it a game system or phone, always read instructions all the way through before and during the process. This will minimize the chance of bricking.
If you're not comfortable with taking the risk, then maybe you shouldn't have unlocked the bootloader. I just hope that you realize your phone's warranty is shot, and there's no going back.
Sorry, I'm not trying to sound rude. I just want you to realize that if it bricks, you're responsible, and nobody else is. But it shouldn't brick if you follow directions carefully, and make sure you're installing the correct version, be it Bell or AT&T. Also make sure, in general for any rom, that you don't install a version with high-performance mods, like overclocking to 1.45ghz. This is not to be done lightly, as it can lead to burning up your phone, if not taken care of properly. Again, read warnings.
It is recommended to perform a backup of apps, contacts, SMS or whatever before doing anything. This can help when testing a new rom, as there may be something you end up not liking about the rom, and redoing the whole setup process can get tiring. I recommend TiBu (Titanium Backup) for apps and Super Backup for SMS, contacts, and Call logs. These are available in the market, and they work across different roms. TiBu Pro costs about $5 though, but it's the second best $5 spent on the market, next to PowerAmp. ( ) It will be invaluable to you. The free version does not support batch restore (and backup I think, batch means multiples at a time)
I wish you luck, and I hope this helps. If you skipped parts of this (I understand why, loooong), I warned you.
Take care,
Drakonas
So, if i wanted to install Alien or NottachTrix1.2.5 rom is nesesary that i need to get back to 2.3.6 at&t stock firmware???, i am currently on darkside rom, my atrix was rooted and unlocked when i was on 2.3.6 new version of at&t
I really want to test Alien or NottachTrix rom, Any help would be truly appreciated
this is a bit off but could you link me to the directions you used to unlock the BL for 2.3.6? >.<
ianwardell said:
this is a bit off but could you link me to the directions you used to unlock the BL for 2.3.6? >.<
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Sorry about the late answer
I just follow this video
well, i can not post a link because i have less than 8 messages but the exact name on youtube is "How to Unlock the Bootloader for Atrix 4G Running GB 2.3.4 and 2.3.6 4.5.141"
i know that it says that is for atrix at&t 2.3.4 but it worked for my virgin atrix 2.3.6 at&t, i recomend to watch the video 3-5 times before trying, just follow step by step very carefully and when in your phone says that:
"Failed to boot, error 0x1000"
"No OS found"
i just restarted the same program but in option 3, it will automatically follow the next step
Remember, this is not a guide of any kind, just sharing my personal experience, this is what i used
Virgin Atrix 4G AT&T 2.3.6 4.5.141 firmware
Windows 7 64-bits
and the software that is on the video, please tell me how it goes for you, remember ask all your questions before doing it
Well it's regarding rooting.
I heard it opens up a world of opportunity with your smartphone, and some apps I really want are only available vain rooted phones. I have the Samsung galaxy s3 international version. It was originally from Australia if that matters at all. It is on 4.0.4. Anyways, being a noob to android more or less, and being a bit apprehensive (because I have no warranty and I cannot obtain another phone easily) I was wondering basically how risky it is to brick your phone in a) the process of rooting your phone. Is it common? If it does get bricked is it reversable by a restore or simply gone? Also after rooting, is there any upkeep or management I need to do to make sure my rooted phone does not screw up? And lastly. What is the safest and easiest way to root the international quad core gs3 on ics. Thank you to everyone for your time
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Well it's regarding rooting.
I heard it opens up a world of opportunity with your smartphone, and some apps I really want are only available vain rooted phones. I have the Samsung galaxy s3 international version. It was originally from Australia if that matters at all. It is on 4.0.4. Anyways, being a noob to android more or less, and being a bit apprehensive (because I have no warranty and I cannot obtain another phone easily) I was wondering basically how risky it is to brick your phone in a) the process of rooting your phone. Is it common? If it does get bricked is it reversable by a restore or simply gone? Also after rooting, is there any upkeep or management I need to do to make sure my rooted phone does not screw up? And lastly. What is the safest and easiest way to root the international quad core gs3 on ics. Thank you to everyone for your time
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Well, most you could pick up be reading a bit, everything is already explained around here but since i was in your shoes very recently:
- there's always a risk. You need to be aware of that. That said, most cases that actually go wrong it's usually user's fault who failed to follow instructions closely. So read them. And read some more. And then read again just to make sure. And then i'd read again.
I used this very recent method from chainfire (salute and donate to the man if you like and can, he deserves it) to root my 4.0.4 international GT-I9300 S3:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1957273
Triangled away next and everything worked like a charm. This preserves everything as stock as possible just adding root to your phone.
- from what i can tell, as long as you don't do anything that messes with the bootloader, you can always recover from a procedure gone wrong. Just disconnect, remove battery, insert and try again. Rebooting the computer or changing usb ports usually helps too (on odin).
- after rooting successfully, the very first thing you should do is backup your /efs folder. This is easy, just pick up root explorer or some other file manager that allows exploring you root (/), go up in your folders until you get to / look for the efs folder and just copy it (NOT MOVE) elsewhere (sd card, external sd, your computer preferably, whatever, just have that safe). This will come in handy in case you lose your imei at some point. Just restore this folder's contents and you're good to go. If that happens and you don't have a backup, it's a f'ing pain you can do well without.
- anything else root related is just common sense. Since you have the potential to screw up your entire phone with root permissions (this is why you don't have them in the first place), if an app pops up asking for root permissions, be sure what it is before allowing. If you're not sure, you can always deny first and allow later in the superuser app.
- you can also look into backing up with nandroid. You can think of this as an image of your entire phone. With this you can restore your phone to the same state it was when you did it. Useful when something went wrong and your phone doesn't boot anymore or you just wanted to try new roms with the option of coming back to what you had before. Not sure how you do it on the S3 still, but it usually requires a modified recovery like CWM. The method to root above doesn't install one though, it preserves what you had. Check this instead if you're interested:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1695238
Cheers dude, i'm sure everything will go well for you too.
Chance of a brick about .0001 % rising to 100% for those that are to lazy to read follow instructions .
BASICS
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1927113
jje
Thankyou very much to everyone who has read and replied to this. 3 more minor questions. Is there a way to first update my phone to jellybean 4.1 via Odin or something like that? Or is this possible after root, because I don't want to stay on ics. Also what exactly happens if I update while rooted. Does it wipe or unroot my phone or the like? Also should my phone be in use debugging, and lastly what does it mean to unlock my bootloaders? That was more than 3 questions sorry thanks again
mysticgorilla said:
Thankyou very much to everyone who has read and replied to this. 3 more minor questions. Is there a way to first update my phone to jellybean 4.1 via Odin or something like that? Or is this possible after root, because I don't want to stay on ics. Also what exactly happens if I update while rooted. Does it wipe or unroot my phone or the like? Also should my phone be in use debugging, and lastly what does it mean to unlock my bootloaders? That was more than 3 questions sorry thanks again
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1) You don't need to root to update to JB.
Just download any ROM you want from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300 (I recommend the UK unbranded ROM, BTU) then use Odin3 to flash it to your devices. Search the forums for specific instructions on this procedure. I'll just tell that it takes no more than 2-3 minutes.
2) If you're going to root, I suggest you do it beforehand, by flashing a kernel like Siyah (in ICS), and then proceed to flashing the stock JB ROM, HOWEVER, instead of using Odin3, you will use MobileOdion (available from Play Store), because that way you'll have a fully rooted and stock device.
3) Using step 2 above, it will not wipe not unroot your phone. It is safe and retains all your settings. That is the beauty of MobileOdin. There is a free version.
If you root and THEN install via Odin (PC), then you'll lose root, but not your settings.
In either case, you only wipe the device IF YOU WANT TO.
So, the best option is to:
a) Install SiyahKernel using Odin3 (PC)
b) Download the JB BTU ROM from http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300
c) Extract the .md5 from the ZIP file and move it to the device's ext. sd card
d) Install MobileOdin in the device
e) Use MobileOdin to flash the .md5 you moved to it in step (c)
f) install TriangleAway (download from XDA) and run it to reset binary counter (which got incremented in step [a] )
Results: rooted, JB, stock, all settins retained, no binary counter increment
Simonetti2011 I have been searching the internet here in New Zealand and that has been the best answer I have found so far!
I do have a slight question thought. I live in New Zealand and have the GT-I9300T model of the GS3 and I'm wanting to install the international unbranded rom for that I can get updates faster (here in NZ it takes months and months to get updates)
I downloaded the International UK unbranded firmware 4.0.4 and was going to flash that rom onto my phone then upgrade to jelly bean via kies but have since relised I should just download the jellybean UK firmware straight away. Do you by any chance havea link to the firmware that I would need, I noticed there were a few different versions.
Also about the CSC, would I need to do any changes?
Many many thanks in advance, Sorry for hijacking this thread, just figured I was on the same pages as the OP
prawln said:
Simonetti2011 I have been searching the internet here in New Zealand and that has been the best answer I have found so far!
I do have a slight question thought. I live in New Zealand and have the GT-I9300T model of the GS3 and I'm wanting to install the international unbranded rom for that I can get updates faster (here in NZ it takes months and months to get updates)
I downloaded the International UK unbranded firmware 4.0.4 and was going to flash that rom onto my phone then upgrade to jelly bean via kies but have since relised I should just download the jellybean UK firmware straight away. Do you by any chance havea link to the firmware that I would need, I noticed there were a few different versions.
Also about the CSC, would I need to do any changes?
Many many thanks in advance, Sorry for hijacking this thread, just figured I was on the same pages as the OP
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Thanks!
The 9300T and the 9300 are NOT the same device, therefore they use different firmware (ROM). The ROMs for the 9300T are here: http://samsung-updates.com/device/?id=GT-I9300T
I don't think there is a 9300T ROM for the UK, since the model released there is the 9300 (non-T).
It seems that either Samsung-updates hasn't indexed any ROMs for your model or they haven't been released.
About CSC: just don't worry about it... download and flash any ROM you want for your specific model and don't worry. If you don't like it, just download and flash another one.
Thanks heaps for that!
I actually just tried the UK unbranded rom that was for the i9300 on my i9300T and suprisingly everything seems to work ok so far (phone calls, txting, 3g etc)
Thankyou to everyone!
Thank you for your responses to my post regarding rooting my s3. They were very helpful. i succesfully rooted via chainfire cf auto root for the I9300 model without problem. Just one last question, I have been searching around a bit and some people are saying that flashing the jellybean firmware via odin, is not a perfect copy.. i mean some say they have been experiencing very minor problems here and there. So, if i update to the uk firmware on jelly bean via odin or mobile odin, and i experience some problems, can i still get the official ota update or jellybean 4.1 via kies when it is released? Thanks again for your help. Im pretty new to this android stuff
Here's my problem, I bought a Samsung Galaxy S2 I9100 from a friend like 4 months ago, which means I don't really know if it's a factory unlocked device or international unlocked device or unlocked using some kind of methods that I don't really know anything about them...
Anyway, I rooted it probably a month after buying it, and I installed two or three custom roms her and there. (I think I installed the X-TremE CM10 1.5 Pure, 1.6 Pure and others roms from other developpers...)
Finally I found the perfect custom rom that I used all the time until now, it was the SuperNexus rom from Faryaab.
Everything went fine until today, I decided to try a new rom, the Omega v16.2 from ::indie:: (I can't post the link sorry but it's very easy to find).
Factory/Data Wipe, Wiped the cache and the Dalvik Cache and installed from zip, everything went fine.
The problem here is that all this time I was using my default modem which I found with the phone, the XXLPX (not a quite loved and famous modem from what I've seen), but the rom I installed was "equiped" with the XXLSJ modem (I don't know if we can say so, i'm not really a professional), so my Baseband version actually changer to I9100XXLS6 (it was I9100XXLPX as said above) and know I have in my hands a SIM Locked device...
I tried the Galaxy S2 SIM Unlock application from Chainfire and the Galaxy_S Unlock from HELROZ and none of the two have worked.
I switched back to the SuperNexus rom, redownloaded the XXLPX modem and reflashed it through the CWM Recovery menu and my phone is still SIM Locked.
So my question here is, does the fact that the rom have changed my modem version locked my phone, or did I do something wrong when installing ?
And is there anyway I could reunlock my phone using any method (probably not, but I ask anyway, who knows) ?
Thanks in advance.
You tried those apps with busybox right? sometimes you need to install another busybox installer version to getting it unlocked.
Have you tried Galaxy S2 SIM Unlock?
if you have a tendency to switch ROMs too often, you might want an app that keep that locking nightmare away.
if all apps fail, look into what these guys did (do not replace the bin file posted there, it's a diffrent method):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=35934314#post35934314
Thanks alot for this ! it's gonna be really useful next time i'm gonna have a problem like that ! But I've already reunlocked it so I can't really try :c. I took it to some "specialist" guy that did it. I still don't know what's the method he used though...
As I've said I'm not a professional my self so it would be kind from you if you explain me two or three things.
First, what do you mean with busybox ? I'm not quite sure if the rom I was using (the Omega) while testing the two unlocking applications listed above was "equiped" with that.
Second thing, you didn't really answered my question which I'm gonna reformulate now:
Can I actually change the version of the Baseband of my phone ? If yes, do I lose the SIM Unlock ? And if I can change the Baseband version and lose the actual SIM Unlock, can I reunlock it and keep that version of the Baseband or do I need to get back to the old version by reflashing it, then reunlock it ?
And finally, the efs folder that I need to backup every time before flashing a new rom (I didn't knew that), what does he contain ? From what I've seen he contains the nv_data.bin file which I think contains the unlock, and that folder also contains some IMEI informations and other stuff. If I actually back it up before installing a new rom, and if that rom changes the baseband version which will probably lock my phone, is it safe to put back that backed up efs folder while keeping the same rom and the same baseband version that came with it ? Does it reunlock the phone ? And do I just put it back using a root explorer and just overwrite it the existing ones ?
Yeah I know, too many questions a man can handle, but I really need to be informed of all those things so I can be aware of what I'm doing.
And thanks in advance for your patience.
Best regards.
fury1337 said:
Thanks alot for this ! it's gonna be really useful next time i'm gonna have a problem like that ! But I've already reunlocked it so I can't really try :c. I took it to some "specialist" guy that did it. I still don't know what's the method he used though...
As I've said I'm not a professional my self so it would be kind from you if you explain me two or three things.
First, what do you mean with busybox ? I'm not quite sure if the rom I was using (the Omega) while testing the two unlocking applications listed above was "equiped" with that.
Second thing, you didn't really answered my question which I'm gonna reformulate now:
Can I actually change the version of the Baseband of my phone ? If yes, do I lose the SIM Unlock ? And if I can change the Baseband version and lose the actual SIM Unlock, can I reunlock it and keep that version of the Baseband or do I need to get back to the old version by reflashing it, then reunlock it ?
And finally, the efs folder that I need to backup every time before flashing a new rom (I didn't knew that), what does he contain ? From what I've seen he contains the nv_data.bin file which I think contains the unlock, and that folder also contains some IMEI informations and other stuff. If I actually back it up before installing a new rom, and if that rom changes the baseband version which will probably lock my phone, is it safe to put back that backed up efs folder while keeping the same rom and the same baseband version that came with it ? Does it reunlock the phone ? And do I just put it back using a root explorer and just overwrite it the existing ones ?
Yeah I know, too many questions a man can handle, but I really need to be informed of all those things so I can be aware of what I'm doing.
And thanks in advance for your patience.
Best regards.
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okay, here we go,
1) There are a lot o people that become some sort of experts on devices thanks to this forums. It takes houndreds - if not thousends - of hours reading posts and executing some things you learn here.
2) busybox is an app. It's Linux based and to tell you the truth, not too many people know exactely what it does, It's very difficult to pinpoint every single thing that this "busy" app performs; Just think of it like a an app that does a lot of things for other app(s) to perform better or to perform at all. You can download it directly from Playstore; bare in mind that sometimes the unlocking app will work with different versions of busybox, so you'll have to try and see. I'm now using "Busybox Free 8.9.7" & "Busybox Installer 4.1"
3) You can always change your MODEM, Baseband it's some sort of radio version that cell phones use to get service, some basbands work on many countries, regions, some don't, still...you always can "odin it" and change the modem (Always read about flashing modem with odin before you do anything).
4) Some ROMs will re-Networkl-lock your device, hell, happened to me every time I went up from Gingerbread - Ice Cream Sandwich - Jelly Bean Leak. The only thing you have to do is get the right tools so you can always unlock it without the drama.
These unlocking apps let you LOCK & UNCLOCK as pleased.
5) the EFS folder indeed contents your network information, IMEI and stuff, it's always good to back it up as it is an important folder for your device to function. I use HC-kTool to back it up whenever i need to.
There is an unlocking method that makes you modify the .bin file. Never done it before but some guys here do it all the time and actually works.
Some other member could enlighten you in this matter; makes sense that flashing a new modem would lock your phone but i wouldn's know. Still, as I've got all these wonderfull apps to unlock....I really don't give a damn
Open for corrections, I've just used common sense.
gastonw said:
okay, here we go,
1) There are a lot o people that become some sort of experts on devices thanks to this forums. It takes houndreds - if not thousends - of hours reading posts and executing some things you learn here.
2) busybox is an app. It's Linux based and to tell you the truth, not too many people know exactely what it does, It's very difficult to pinpoint every single thing that this "busy" app performs; Just think of it like a an app that does a lot of things for other app(s) to perform better or to perform at all. You can download it directly from Playstore; bare in mind that sometimes the unlocking app will work with different versions of busybox, so you'll have to try and see. I'm now using "Busybox Free 8.9.7" & "Busybox Installer 4.1"
3) You can always change your MODEM, Baseband it's some sort of radio version that cell phones use to get service, some basbands work on many countries, regions, some don't, still...you always can "odin it" and change the modem (Always read about flashing modem with odin before you do anything).
4) Some ROMs will re-Networkl-lock your device, hell, happened to me every time I went up from Gingerbread - Ice Cream Sandwich - Jelly Bean Leak. The only thing you have to do is get the right tools so you can always unlock it without the drama.
These unlocking apps let you LOCK & UNCLOCK as pleased.
5) the EFS folder indeed contents your network information, IMEI and stuff, it's always good to back it up as it is an important folder for your device to function. I use HC-kTool to back it up whenever i need to.
There is an unlocking method that makes you modify the .bin file. Never done it before but some guys here do it all the time and actually works.
Some other member could enlighten you in this matter; makes sense that flashing a new modem would lock your phone but i wouldn's know. Still, as I've got all these wonderfull apps to unlock....I really don't give a damn
Open for corrections, I've just used common sense.
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So what are the tools I need? I already tried 2 different sim unlocking apps on the play store and I got someone to try changing the upload ur nv_data.bin and it still doesn't unlock
RacecarBMW said:
So what are the tools I need? I already tried 2 different sim unlocking apps on the play store and I got someone to try changing the upload ur nv_data.bin and it still doesn't unlock
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galaxysim unlock
galaxy s unlock
galaxy s2 sim unlock
Read First Threads:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1360174
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1092451
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1289395
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2070375
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2069517
and don't forget busybox!
gastonw said:
okay, here we go,
1) There are a lot o people that become some sort of experts on devices thanks to this forums. It takes houndreds - if not thousends - of hours reading posts and executing some things you learn here.
2) busybox is an app. It's Linux based and to tell you the truth, not too many people know exactely what it does, It's very difficult to pinpoint every single thing that this "busy" app performs; Just think of it like a an app that does a lot of things for other app(s) to perform better or to perform at all. You can download it directly from Playstore; bare in mind that sometimes the unlocking app will work with different versions of busybox, so you'll have to try and see. I'm now using "Busybox Free 8.9.7" & "Busybox Installer 4.1"
3) You can always change your MODEM, Baseband it's some sort of radio version that cell phones use to get service, some basbands work on many countries, regions, some don't, still...you always can "odin it" and change the modem (Always read about flashing modem with odin before you do anything).
4) Some ROMs will re-Networkl-lock your device, hell, happened to me every time I went up from Gingerbread - Ice Cream Sandwich - Jelly Bean Leak. The only thing you have to do is get the right tools so you can always unlock it without the drama.
These unlocking apps let you LOCK & UNCLOCK as pleased.
5) the EFS folder indeed contents your network information, IMEI and stuff, it's always good to back it up as it is an important folder for your device to function. I use HC-kTool to back it up whenever i need to.
There is an unlocking method that makes you modify the .bin file. Never done it before but some guys here do it all the time and actually works.
Some other member could enlighten you in this matter; makes sense that flashing a new modem would lock your phone but i wouldn's know. Still, as I've got all these wonderfull apps to unlock....I really don't give a damn
Open for corrections, I've just used common sense.
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Thanks alot for those "enligthments".
I don't know which method the guy I brough my phone to used to unlock it, but I reflashed the Omega custom rom yesterday and it actually didn't relock my phone ! But from now on I'm gonna be alot more cautious when flashing a new custom rom. Recovery backup from the CWM recovery mode, efs backup and maybe some Titanium backup too, even though I prefere having a clean "new phone" and install the apps by myself rather than referring to a backup. Yeah I know it's stupid but I like it that way.
Anyway, thanks again for your help and your patience, much appreciated c: .
Cheers.
salut.
btw, you might wanna add mobile odin yo that list. Hell of an app.
from sii xda-ded
Last week I was given a new, boxed SGS2 model GT-I9100G, running ICS 4.0.4, purchased in China. Much of it I can use, after setting it to UK English. However, all the important high use apps. refer to the Chinese national equivalents, and it appears to be linked to the Chinese app. store. So, no Google, no YouTube, no Twitter, no FaceBook and so and none of the obvious European email providers etc.
My local service provider pointed me to a site, with the name androidauthority, as a way of (hopefully) installing a European version of ICS 4.0.4: However, as a new user I am prevented from giving a link to this location (!), so could I ask somebody here with the necessary knowledge to tell me if there is going to be a safe procedure for replacing the Chinese system in my phone with a European equivalent, with a reasonable chance of success?
The questions that come to mind are such things as:
1. This procedure does not appear to require me to have acquired root privileges. Can it work as 'non-root' user?
2. Is the handset as secure after the change as it was before?
3. How much of ICS is replaced by this procedure?
4. Does ICS imply a kernel too? Or is it just an operating system on top of the kernel. If the latter, won't the kernel need changing too, from a Chinese version to a European version?
5. If there is a black screen of death after this procedure, what should I do, in aditional to wailing, throwing myself on the ground or banging my head forcefully against a wall?
By the way, I have purposely held off putting any useful data on the handset before I have solved the language-version issue, so I don't have any back-up/recovery issues (do I?)
Having read a little on this forum, I notice that there does not seem to be a version of CF-root for my handset. 'About phone' gives me a kernel version of 3.0.8-1067026. This version name doesn't seem to match any of those in the list of downloads elsewhere on this forum - it contains no alpha characters for example. 'About phone' also tells me that I have something called 'Baseband Version' - identified as I9100GZCLPL. What is this?
greatbridge said:
Last week I was given a new, boxed SGS2 model GT-I9100G, running ICS 4.0.4, purchased in China. Much of it I can use, after setting it to UK English. However, all the important high use apps. refer to the Chinese national equivalents, and it appears to be linked to the Chinese app. store. So, no Google, no YouTube, no Twitter, no FaceBook and so and none of the obvious European email providers etc.
My local service provider pointed me to a site, with the name androidauthority, as a way of (hopefully) installing a European version of ICS 4.0.4: However, as a new user I am prevented from giving a link to this location (!), so could I ask somebody here with the necessary knowledge to tell me if there is going to be a safe procedure for replacing the Chinese system in my phone with a European equivalent, with a reasonable chance of success?
The questions that come to mind are such things as:
1. This procedure does not appear to require me to have acquired root privileges. Can it work as 'non-root' user?
2. Is the handset as secure after the change as it was before?
3. How much of ICS is replaced by this procedure?
4. Does ICS imply a kernel too? Or is it just an operating system on top of the kernel. If the latter, won't the kernel need changing too, from a Chinese version to a European version?
5. If there is a black screen of death after this procedure, what should I do, in aditional to wailing, throwing myself on the ground or banging my head forcefully against a wall?
By the way, I have purposely held off putting any useful data on the handset before I have solved the language-version issue, so I don't have any back-up/recovery issues (do I?)
Having read a little on this forum, I notice that there does not seem to be a version of CF-root for my handset. 'About phone' gives me a kernel version of 3.0.8-1067026. This version name doesn't seem to match any of those in the list of downloads elsewhere on this forum - it contains no alpha characters for example. 'About phone' also tells me that I have something called 'Baseband Version' - identified as I9100GZCLPL. What is this?
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Okay, here we go:
0) You really should check if your device is authentic. You are mentioning apps restrictions (In the about the phone section tag, does it says "Android Version 4.0.4"?) and apps country related (might be chinase carrier bloatware).
1) You can flash a new ROM (Euro Version for example) via Odin (no Root) or via CWM (Root required).
2) Flashing is all about changing operating systems, If you choose the right ROM for YOUR device, and you FOLLOW instructions given, it's safe.
3) ICS versions comes in 2 ways, Branded (Carrier Bloatware) & Unbranded (No carrier bloatware).
4) ICS package comes with ROM, Modem and Kernel. You can look it up each of them so you'll get familiar with these terms.
5) Don't think about that, should be fine.
6) No worrys about data, this is a system flash, not a SD Card flash.
7) You can follow many guides here on XDA to root your device.
8) Baseband is related to Modem. Network for your country / region.
And most importantly, make sure anything u flash is for the I9100G and not the I9100.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
Hayth said:
And most importantly, make sure anything u flash is for the I9100G and not the I9100.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
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True + Read about Brick Bug (4.0.4) kernel.
gastonw said:
Okay, here we go:
0) You really should check if your device is authentic. You are mentioning apps restrictions (In the about the phone section tag, does it says "Android Version 4.0.4"?) and apps country related (might be chinase carrier bloatware).
1) You can flash a new ROM (Euro Version for example) via Odin (no Root) or via CWM (Root required).
2) Flashing is all about changing operating systems, If you choose the right ROM for YOUR device, and you FOLLOW instructions given, it's safe.
3) ICS versions comes in 2 ways, Branded (Carrier Bloatware) & Unbranded (No carrier bloatware).
4) ICS package comes with ROM, Modem and Kernel. You can look it up each of them so you'll get familiar with these terms.
5) Don't think about that, should be fine.
6) No worrys about data, this is a system flash, not a SD Card flash.
7) You can follow many guides here on XDA to root your device.
8) Baseband is related to Modem. Network for your country / region.
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Great, thanks for this detailed reply.
From what I write here you will conclude that I am totally uninformed and (naturally) would be a little impatient. I would ask your indulgence. The fact is that I am totally uninformed - about things mobile - but I have been messing around with technology since 1959, (yes, that's 1959), especially with Linux installs and updates since about 2003. Being exceptionally outdated, I am exceptionally diligent at following instructions, so I have read your guidance in detail. Ignorance-driven questions arise:
As far as I can reasonably tell the device is not a fake - packaging style and contents, reputation of supplier, functionality of the phone all appear to be authentic (but what do I know?), This begs the question: what is a water-tight test of authenticity? The (non Samsung) apps. on the device appear to be only the Chinese national equivalents of those US/European ones which I expected: Weibo, QQ, YouKou, Baidu, RenRen - with, perhaps the stuff from TenCent which is admittedly bloatware, It does indeed say (in 'About phone') Android 4.0.4.
From elsewhere (sorry, cannot identify from browser history where) I found a list of all the ROMs(?) currently 'current' for the GT-I9100G. which seemed to link my system to ChinaUnicom, However it doesn't seem to be locked to that service provider because I was able to make phone calls with SIMs from both O2 and Giff-Gaff (which is really O2) installed in the handset. There was no SIM in the handset when I received it.
a). How do I identify the 'correct' ROM - seeing as the one I have is 'incorrect' in the sense that it is not what I want and therefore isn't much of a guide to me in identifying the correct one! I assume here correctness is synonymous with handset model number being fully and unambiguously identified. Yes?
b). Where do I download an unbranded, unbloated, version of ICS 4.0.4? I have downloaded a 380MB file (following instructions on the Androidauthority website that I am not permitted to mention <sigh>) named I9100GXXLPY_I9100GDBTLP3_DBT.zip - does this look like an unbranded ROM of approximately the correct size and naming convention?
c). Is it necessary to root the device (I was planning to use Odin, which I have downloaded)? In my naive state I associate a system in which the user has root privileges as being about as secure as Windows 2000 - i.e. a welcome destination for every hacker and psycho in the world. Is this correct? If so, why would I ever want to run with a 'rooted' handset, give the remarkable growth in the number of malware and the number of ways of 'acquiring' them? Thus, I was hoping to be able to make this change without having to 'root' the device. (btw did anybody from Oz ever point out what the commonly understood meaning of that word is? It surprised me to see it in common use!)
I look forward to your continued advice. Thanks again.
Hayth said:
And most importantly, make sure anything u flash is for the I9100G and not the I9100.
Sent from my GT-I9100 using Tapatalk 2
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Yes, I think I have realised that. The G version has quite different hardware (main processor and graphics processor) than the non-G version. I would expect a 'black screen of death' if using the wring ROM. But is there some naming convention in the ROM which will, without doubt, identify its intended hardware target?
greatbridge said:
Great, thanks for this detailed reply.
From what I write here you will conclude that I am totally uninformed and (naturally) would be a little impatient. I would ask your indulgence. The fact is that I am totally uninformed - about things mobile - but I have been messing around with technology since 1959, (yes, that's 1959), especially with Linux installs and updates since about 2003. Being exceptionally outdated, I am exceptionally diligent at following instructions, so I have read your guidance in detail. Ignorance-driven questions arise:
As far as I can reasonably tell the device is not a fake - packaging style and contents, reputation of supplier, functionality of the phone all appear to be authentic (but what do I know?), This begs the question: what is a water-tight test of authenticity? The (non Samsung) apps. on the device appear to be only the Chinese national equivalents of those US/European ones which I expected: Weibo, QQ, YouKou, Baidu, RenRen - with, perhaps the stuff from TenCent which is admittedly bloatware, It does indeed say (in 'About phone') Android 4.0.4.
From elsewhere (sorry, cannot identify from browser history where) I found a list of all the ROMs(?) currently 'current' for the GT-I9100G. which seemed to link my system to ChinaUnicom, However it doesn't seem to be locked to that service provider because I was able to make phone calls with SIMs from both O2 and Giff-Gaff (which is really O2) installed in the handset. There was no SIM in the handset when I received it.
a). How do I identify the 'correct' ROM - seeing as the one I have is 'incorrect' in the sense that it is not what I want and therefore isn't much of a guide to me in identifying the correct one! I assume here correctness is synonymous with handset model number being fully and unambiguously identified. Yes?
b). Where do I download an unbranded, unbloated, version of ICS 4.0.4? I have downloaded a 380MB file (following instructions on the Androidauthority website that I am not permitted to mention <sigh>) named I9100GXXLPY_I9100GDBTLP3_DBT.zip - does this look like an unbranded ROM of approximately the correct size and naming convention?
c). Is it necessary to root the device (I was planning to use Odin, which I have downloaded)? In my naive state I associate a system in which the user has root privileges as being about as secure as Windows 2000 - i.e. a welcome destination for every hacker and psycho in the world. Is this correct? If so, why would I ever want to run with a 'rooted' handset, give the remarkable growth in the number of malware and the number of ways of 'acquiring' them? Thus, I was hoping to be able to make this change without having to 'root' the device. (btw did anybody from Oz ever point out what the commonly understood meaning of that word is? It surprised me to see it in common use!)
I look forward to your continued advice. Thanks again.
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Looks like you are already getting the hang of it.
First off, here's some reading material:
Index Guide.
Here you will learn about the infamus brick bug (Everyone on 4.0.4 should be aware of this).
Here you will see what NOT to do, because these guys already did and went bad. It's about how to get it back, so you'll get to know some interesting process.
About Root, you got this guy.
Worried about possible exploits, see what the Android Main Man did.
About some Root Humour, you got this.
If you are root sold, here's how you do it (I9100G Version).
Sammobile.com has got plenty of branded and unbranded ROMs for you to choose from (remember that crazy G at the end!).
About that fake remark, here's an example.
I guess I'm not forgetting anything....if I did, well, I'll notice it
gastonw said:
True + Read about Brick Bug (4.0.4) kernel.
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I tried searching on this term in Google. It referred me to
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1897295
in which I learn that if I flash my handset with kernel 4.0.4, when that kernel is already installed (as it is on my handset), then I will be certain to have a bricked kernel. So, is this another way of saying that a solution to my original problem is not available?
Here's some additional info on your device:
Custom Roms & Kernels for I9100G.
Switch Between Chinease & International.
Here is something abour porting, whatever that is
gastonw said:
Looks like you are already getting the hang of it.
First off, here's some reading material:
Index Guide.
Here you will learn about the infamus brick bug (Everyone on 4.0.4 should be aware of this).
Here you will see what NOT to do, because these guys already did and went bad. It's about how to get it back, so you'll get to know some interesting process.
About Root, you got this guy.
Worried about possible exploits, see what the Android Main Man did.
About some Root Humour, you got this.
If you are root sold, here's how you do it (I9100G Version).
Sammobile.com has got plenty of branded and unbranded ROMs for you to choose from (remember that crazy G at the end!).
About that fake remark, here's an example.
I guess I'm not forgetting anything....if I did, well, I'll notice it
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Wow, I find myself overwhelmed by all this information.
You know, all I really want to do is change the operating system language version, so that it makes my handset look like one that was purchased in UK/Europe, and that avoid a costly embarrassment. (The person who gave me the phone is waiting for me to use it...)
To refer to a Linux desk-top analogy, I want to replace Ubuntu 12.04 , simplified Chinese version, with Ubuntu 12.04 UK English version. I don't want to change my Linux kernel version, there's no need to when I'm not changing the version of Ubuntu and anyway too new = too risky; too old = inadequate hardware support. I don't want to change my ROM: I've got no hardware errors or bugs in my ROM which are directly responsible for functional limitations which affect my use of the phone - the 3 'dead' motherboards in my cupboard here are proof that ROM flashing is not without its risks.
So, conceptually, I want to try to do something straight forward. In the desktop scenario I would just download the correct level & version of Ubuntu from a Canonical server and install it. End of task. But in this mobile scenario I'm told about flashing ROMs, secure and insecure kernels, asked to choose whether or not to root the phone, asking to locate and choose 'firmware' (what ever that is, in this contex)t and also told that that the update is bound to fail, rendering my phone unusable.
That's all a very daunting story, which at the least requires me to embark on a serious and in-depth re-education program. That's a bit of challenge for somebody into their 7th decade, when all they want to do is use a phone.
Isn't there a simpler, more straightforward way of doing this?
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Yes, that is indeed where I want to start, so I really appreciate this link.
My first step in education is to be able to correctly interpret the English that is being used - I'm from a different age & universe, so some of the expressions in the linked article are confusing to me. The guide appears to be written from the assumption that the target audience is the uninformed user (like myself) but then invites the reader to 'use any stock ROM you choose' which implies a level of knowledge (about what a 'stock ROM' is, which ones are appropriate and where to find them) that is wholly inconsistent with the assumption. If I new all that stuff already, I wouldn't need the guide!. As it is the guide is great - but leaves me hanging in the air while I research the missing - and key - chapter.
Ah, well, never a dull moment; pity I have so few of them left (moments, that is)
gastonw said:
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Damn it, this is so frustrating: none of the links available directly or indirectly in the article you have directed me to identify a suitable ICS firmware for United Kingdom. However, the threads that are referenced obviously are started by people with inappropriate knowledge, but - frustratingly - lacking the necessary credibility I am not allowed to post to those threads to ask.
The primary article has the same issue:I would like to post a reply to this method of internationalization by asking for an interpretation of the expression '- Manual Load Driver for OMAP4430 From usb_drv_windows folder (included in download content )' - 'manual load'? Load what from where into what? What is this download content? I don't have any 'download content'
Next frustration is my attempts to get Samsung USB drivers. EVERY site I have tried says words to the effect that this file has been deleted because too many people have requested it - or it points me back to XDA in an area I am not allowed access to - or it points me to the singularly ineffective (in my experience) SAMWARE site, which does not list anything, irrespective of language, for the I9100G.
Yep - it's truly like the Linux world: frustrating in the extreme, full of dead ends and self-referential logic, notable for its disciple (in the sense of the total lack thereof), wondrously chaotic and - by simple observation - very effective. But not for me.
Lol, think of it as a marriage.
D.L. mode (you probably screwed up and you gotta turn the balance to your side)
Recovery Mode (now YOU did screw up)
Flash (show off)
wipe (start from scratch, now on your feet)
Stock (this is who I married, now I just gotta hang in here)
Custom (An affair)
Brick ("Honey, we need to talk")
gastonw said:
Trust me, this isn't as hard as its sounds. And I'm also sure that in one week you will be sticking your teeth into the flashing & rooting world.
As you already are a Linux user, you'll find this OS very similar, because it's based on it.
Once you realize everything you can do with that little guy sittin right next to you, yoo'll be up for a thrill, regardless of your age or whatever.
You can start by Internationalization here.
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Well, it's more than a week - and I still have not been able to locate the right firmware to download, or a process for using it that can be followed.
I did invoke Samsung UK Technical support. They directed me to a service agent - a 6 hour round trip plus waiting time. This 'service agent' announced that it would take 'more than 2 hours' to download the firmware, then advised me that the attempt to flash my phone failed at the point of loading the PIT. He refused to tell me what firmware load he had tried and refused to return the phone unless I paid a service charge. At this time Samsung haven't responded to my complaint about this con-trick.
Got any advice on where else I might go to get this fixed?
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Lol, think of it as a marriage.
D.L. mode (you probably screwed up and you gotta turn the balance to your side)
Recovery Mode (now YOU did screw up)
Flash (show off)
wipe (start from scratch, now on your feet)
Stock (this is who I married, now I just gotta hang in here)
Custom (An affair)
Brick ("Honey, we need to talk")
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Huh?
greatbridge said:
Huh?
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analogys
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analogys
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This dialogue has not made one word of sense to me; I'm clearly in the wrong time or place, or both.
Can somebody point me to the exit so I can come in again, and ask for some guidance on how to get my phone updated?
alt + f4?
Sent from the little guy
The g model doesnt have a Uk rom because the phone isnt meant for here.
You can see what custom firmware is available.
"noob ok...lazy noob not ok"