staying with froyo or upgrading to gingerbread? - Motorola Droid X2

which are you doing?

Definitely Staying For Now. Sounds Like P3 Wants To Root Gingerbread The Second It Drops Then I'll Upgrade.

MikeJ92YJ said:
Definitely Staying For Now. Sounds Like P3 Wants To Root Gingerbread The Second It Drops Then I'll Upgrade.
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same here, i think

I'm having reboots every day on froyo. I don't think I have much to lose by upgrading.
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Im gonna take the update. I sbf'd last night. Im gonna try to save the update and install later. Im gonna see if the xda community can root it and I can go back to being bloat free
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Im not rommed but im rooted, but i hear lots of people talk about SBFing to stock so they can get the update, but if your just rooted doesnt it not matter?
EDIT, never owned a Droid and have always used phones with easily unlocked bootloaders so this whole SBF thing is new to me

My experience with other droids, You will get the update still but it might fail installing if you are rooted. Some custom roms remove the ota ability.
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Also theres a good chance the sbf will not work if you take the OTA update just ask the atrix users

No root, no upgrade. I've got my Honeycomb tablet rooted, rom'd, and OC'd faster than the phone, I can hold out until Verizon allows a full unlock if I have to.

How would the abc not work after the ota? DROID x users can sbf from .496 back to 2.3.340 .then again I understand this is a new phone .... and ATRIX users can't sbf back to 2.2? Wow.
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andrewp3481 said:
How would the abc not work after the ota? DROID x users can sbf from .496 back to 2.3.340 .then again I understand this is a new phone .... and ATRIX users can't sbf back to 2.2? Wow.
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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Im gonna wait and see what happens with the updaters... Let them deal with what may come... I have downloaded the update from the link in another thread for when everything does get sorted out...

juhde said:
abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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+1 on that. I have NO plans to apply this update. I'm rooted and need to stay that way.

juhde said:
abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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Yep just ask the attic users which tried to sbf from 2.3.4 they all got a hard brick
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I don't plan on updating until GB is rooted.

Seems like a lot of people around the net upgraded not knowing it can't be rooted, or are disappointed in the update (for trivial reasons). I will wait to see what P3 is doing today with it via his Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/P3Droid

I am waiting. In cases like this I suspend my usual early adopter mentality. I'd like to be able to root and sbf. I bought the phone after I saw the sbf (and days before Verizon implemented tiered data) so I feel no need to cripple myself.
That said, I am envious of those playing with their "new" phones today.
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well i voted i was going to stay (rooted and affinity rom), but i broke down and upgraded... havent regretted it yet

To bad this isn't 2.3.4 its 2.3.3 one reason I haven't upgraded yet I want all the new blur features or im keeping root.
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Tweet from P3Droid update imminent

from twitter
P3Droid
Good Morning, and hang on to that DX2 folks: It will get an update and looks like its going to be 2.3.4 - no eta though.
Great news!!!
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Umm.. Not to pee on the parade or anything, but this is hardly earth shattering breaking news.. We KNOW its getting 2.3.4 from the Morotola post i put in the other day...
This is almost like "HEY, The Sun MAY come up tommorow"...
I say we don't make any more "Were getting GB" posts, until, well, we get GB
Just playin people (for those with a low sense of humor threshold)
All news is good news.
SuBDivisions said:
Umm.. Not to pee on the parade or anything, but this is hardly earth shattering breaking news.. We KNOW its getting 2.3.4 from the Morotola post i put in the other day...
This is almost like "HEY, The Sun MAY come up tommorow"...
I say we don't make any more "Were getting GB" posts, until, well, we get GB
Just playin people (for those with a low sense of humor threshold)
All news is good news.
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Completely true, however he has insider sources at Moto - according to popular rumor. This news made my day.
OS 2.3.4
The X2 will go from a good phone to GREAT!
This could be huge for us!!!
A few weeks ago he started talking about 2.3.4 for the Droid Charge and then released a leak for the charge that was GB 2.3.4 a few days after he had acquired a charge to test it on.
For those of you that dont know, a donated X2 is in the process of being sent to him.
Move to proper forum.
The end of the world is coming, but no ETA...
Where is the link to donate?
Great and stuff but unless I can still have this bloatware off, and it runs better without Supercharge Script I'm not updating right away.
Am I understanding correctly that we will lose root with the GB update?
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Without a doubt yes. Especially if all of the other OTA updates on other verizon phones held true to the same. I don't know if I'd rather lose root and get GB or wait until there is a confirmed root access.
I don't care if I lose root because it'll be back besides gingerbread is amazing
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spr0k3t said:
Without a doubt yes. Especially if all of the other OTA updates on other verizon phones held true to the same. I don't know if I'd rather lose root and get GB or wait until there is a confirmed root access.
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+1 I'm gonna wait too
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Ok cool, but no custom roms still disappoints me. Everyday it comes closer for the Bionic release, I get more and more sure that I want to sell this and get the TB or Bionic
slagar said:
I don't care if I lose root because it'll be back besides gingerbread is amazing
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Gingerbread 2.3.4 on the Droid 3 is really something else. Got one for my girlfriend and the UI along with the animations are ultra crisp and super quick. I've always been against Blur, but after seeing the Droid 3- I really hope the DX2 grabs that same Blur with the update.
I am more looking forward to the speed and knowing we are finally going to be able to take full advantage of the hardware we were blessed with..
Dual Core baby.
onemotodroid said:
Where is the link to donate?
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Right here apparently.
I have my phone rooted and a lot of bloat frozen with TBP so should I defrost those before doing the update and also undo root?
I'm new to android, so silly question, but if you upgrade to GB will your phone be factory reset / loose apk's / contacts / etc?
Or is it much like using the system only SBF?
Thanks

Droidx2 THEORY and Explanation

Ok so p3 said "Good Morning, and hang on to that DX2 folks: It will get an update and looks like its going to be 2.3.4 - no eta though." in theory what this means is that it might have an unlocked boot loader, if so, we just have to be patient this is only a guess and credit to finding this post goes to "quadjacks" again this is true speculation on my part...
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and for everyone wondering why the cwm for dx2 hasn't been released by me is because the restore feature can't mount the sd card, after this issue is fixed it will be released, if not i'll still probably release it soon if the dev of this app doesn't get back to me
Have a good one
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Not sure if it's a truly unlocked bootloader or a work-around to custom Rom's from what I've been reading. I could be wrong. I think the only way to get a true unlocked Bootloader is from Motorola and it looks like that's never going to happen..
coolpoete said:
Not sure if it's a truly unlocked bootloader or a work-around to custom Rom's from what I've been reading. I could be wrong. I think the only way to get a true unlocked Bootloader is from Motorola and it looks like that's never going to happen..
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Except... That's exactly what people are saying WILL happen when Gingerbread comes. OR at least I'm pretty sure that's how the Atrix got it's unlock. It even had the "Warning" from Moto about the warranty violation.
We'll just have to wait and see
Hopefully it happens soon so that I can keep this and not spend 200 on the bionic or tbolt
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Moved to proper forum.
I doubt this means unlocked bootloader. It just means that a lot of the glitches/problems with the X2 will be resolved with this update, as well as the system utilizing both cores effectively. It should resolve the majority of issues X2 users have been suffering from. Now, considering p3 mentioned it, it does lead me to develop the idea that p3 has obtained a leak of the update and will be releasing within the next 2 weeks. The IT'S update is speculated to be here by the end of August.
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2 weeks! Thats awesome!! And what is that "IT'S" release u mentioned??
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it isnt august yet....
They it starts rolling out next week... legitly so unless p3 obtainted a dev version with an unlocked bl we are out of luck
DAG425 said:
2 weeks! Thats awesome!! And what is that "IT'S" release u mentioned?
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I was wondering the same thing. Guess no one knows ;-) .
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DX2 thoughts..

if VZW released the DX2 in Europe (possibly with an unlocked BL) couldn't we use files off that phone to unlock our BL? (if any of this was released, of course!)
Also, the photon now has their BL unlocked, and the DX2 and Photon are cousins couldn't we try their method(s) to unlock our BL? Unless that's not possible at all.
Sorry guys, these are just random thoughts that have crossed through my head.
I don't think we could because VZW would probably put a different bl on the Europe version. And I think I read our kernel doesn't have an option to unlock it any ways, so we would need a new kernel that gets past the sig check, then try to unlock it. Could be wrong though. Still learning this stuff haha
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Verizon Wireless, who is an American Subsidiary wouldn't release a phone in Europe, lol. And Moto won't release the phone there because A. It is old news now, and B. They are predominantly a GSM region.
IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
I don't think we could because VZW would probably put a different bl on the Europe version. And I think I read our kernel doesn't have an option to unlock it any ways, so we would need a new kernel that gets past the sig check, then try to unlock it. Could be wrong though. Still learning this stuff haha
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so if our kernel wasn't unlockable then thered be no BL pudding for us unless we found the sbf that had an unlocked bl, correct?
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ztotherad said:
so if our kernel wasn't unlockable then thered be no BL pudding for us unless we found the sbf that had an unlocked bl, correct?
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I think so. But I'm not completely sure. I need to go back and read the bl notes thread.
But there are ways around it, like the theory of 2nd init starting a different kernel. So maybe some one could find a way around and we wouldn't have to wait for the SBF. But I think the SBF would come faster, if we get one.
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true, if the photon has a sbf that's been leaked then the DX2 has gotta have one as well, or at least that's a theory
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Yeah. Just gotta hope some one catches it off a server it gets it from the inside!
I'd be sick to see what this could do with an unlocked bl!
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IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
Yeah. Just gotta hope some one catches it off a server it gets it from the inside!
I'd be sick to see what this could do with an unlocked bl!
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well, I think i found a new update on the servers, 2.3.5 for the DX2, but who do i send it to?
ztotherad said:
well, I think i found a new update on the servers, 2.3.5 for the DX2, but who do i send it to?
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Just saw your post in the other thread! Nice!! Send it to the guy who replied, and maybe send it to some ROM devs
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Gotcha, yeah, I figured I'd see what it it's all about, but you can't root it, pete's rooting tools wouldn't root nor unroot my phone, so i think the exploit was covered up, which def sucks.
ztotherad said:
Gotcha, yeah, I figured I'd see what it it's all about, but you can't root it, pete's rooting tools wouldn't root nor unroot my phone, so i think the exploit was covered up, which def sucks.
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Yeah! Maybe some one can find another exploit that'll work. See if you can pull the update again and copy the update file to your PC and upload it to mediafire and post a link to it for anybody who's interested. I'd see if I could help, but I'm not at a PC.
How's it running with the update? Any noticeable changes?
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I'd tell you, but I had to sbf back to 2.3.4 to do anything that was relevant to unlocking the BL.
but I have overmind at the IRC, so i think i'ma try and pull the update again and not update and see if i can pull it.
IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
Yeah! Maybe some one can find another exploit that'll work. See if you can pull the update again and copy the update file to your PC and upload it to mediafire and post a link to it for anybody who's interested. I'd see if I could help, but I'm not at a PC.
How's it running with the update? Any noticeable changes?
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the only thing on 2.3.5 we found was a faster non-delayed lockscreen, but there may be more soon!
afaik the only markets the x2 was released was the united states and mexico.
I could be wrong though.
In the many threads we have on unlocking the bootloader there is much discussions that have been beaten to death about unlocking using other phones methods. Bottom line it just isn't possible due to kernel differences and hardware differences. Check the "project thread" in development section for more info about why.
there was a LOT of discussion about it around the time we got the ATRIX ports as well.
And the ring able to start a second kernel after ours starts needs kexec to work along with 2nd init. I don't believe 2nd init alone will be able to start a new kernel. People had worked on kexec I believe but it didn't go far. We need more of a team to get something like this wiring but as of now we have requested a couple dev teams to help us out but were told "not working on x2 at this time....busy with other projects" or something to that effect. Hopefully we will get that leaked sbf that has our unlock one day....I did hear a while ago from a little birdie that an sbf was found that had oem unlock option but it didn't work/unlock wasn't implemented so hopefully we are getting a little closer.
**don't ask me where I heard it...and don't ask for any links for proof...I have NO proof for what I say....just take it as it is....believe if u want or don't believe if u want....either way keep your eyes and ears peeled and keep trying to find us that unlock option....this phone could destroy many others if we get unlocked***

Milestone x2 and Droid x2 sbf

Here's my dilemma, I just went out and bought myself a Motorola milestone x2 which I have through a local provider. I believe this phone is the same if not very similar to the Droid x2. My problem is the fact I got it with the android version 2.3.5 and can't root with any sort of one click root off my computer. The plan is to sbf back to android version 2.2 or 2.3.3 but am not sure if I can use the Droid x2 files contained on this site and don't wanna turn the phone into an expensive paperweight so any input would be great. I've search for earlier versions of the milestone x2 but only can find phones w a slide out keyboard n don't wanna chance it.
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fantasy2c said:
Here's my dilemma, I just went out and bought myself a Motorola milestone x2 which I have through a local provider. I believe this phone is the same if not very similar to the Droid x2. My problem is the fact I got it with the android version 2.3.5 and can't root with any sort of one click root off my computer. The plan is to sbf back to android version 2.2 or 2.3.3 but am not sure if I can use the Droid x2 files contained on this site and don't wanna turn the phone into an expensive paperweight so any input would be great. I've search for earlier versions of the milestone x2 but only can find phones w a slide out keyboard n don't wanna chance it.
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have you tried zergRUSH supposed to work on 2.3.5
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1321582
Yes I have v1-v3 actually. Everything seems to work fine until it gets to the point of writing su and busybox to the phone, claims everything is read only. my phone will restart while the program says I'm rooted but I'm not
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you should hop on the irc channel. people there that might be able to help real time... not sure how busy it is tonight though
http://webchat.freenode.net/
channel #dx2
Can't hurt to try, thanks!
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I would try to find specific files for that phone. There seem to be significant differences between the Milestone and the X2. I would check over at androidforums.com, they have a few milestone forums, but nothing for "milestone x2." Can't quite find that phone anywhere actually. I'm almost 100% that the x2 sbf file won't work properly if you flash it on that phone.
Thats odd..I had the choice between this and the htc merge...went with this because of the duel core, 1ghz processor and bigger screen..plus I had some problems with htc phones in the past. I wouldn't have figured this would be so difficult to root
fantasy2c said:
Thats odd..I had the choice between this and the htc merge...went with this because of the duel core, 1ghz processor and bigger screen..plus I had some problems with htc phones in the past. I wouldn't have figured this would be so difficult to root
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I googled milestone x2 and found nothing. Is it the milestone xt720?
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motcher41 said:
I googled milestone x2 and found nothing. Is it the milestone xt720?
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It is not.
Phone info and box both say Milestone x2.
Same specs as the droid x2 as same visual.
I really can't find any info on the phone online..a lil here or a little there with little to no responses about it.
Its very odd
To the op: could you post a screen shot of your system version thru build # on the about phone screen in portrait mode(or post the equivalent)? It could be you could try update.zipping the latest 1.3.413 of 235 found here in the "cheesecake" thread. You would do it from stock recovery and if it let you do it it might be the safest venture. Not recommending it as yet though.
Is this the phone ur refering to http://www.cellcom.com/device.html?id=247&categoryid=1
It looks like a replica of the droid x2 spec wise
Here a pic in the about phone settings
T3CH9ICIAN said:
Is this the phone ur refering to http://www.cellcom.com/device.html?id=247&categoryid=1
It looks like a replica of the droid x2 spec wise
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Looks exactly like it!
Looking at it now it seems that this is just a renaming of the phone for smaller service providers.
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More than likely..Tried unlocking it via fastboot but to no success.
INFOOEM unlock is not implemented error...
My info for 1.3.413 (updated w/ the latest cheesecake.
fantasy2c said:
More than likely..Tried unlocking it via fastboot but to no success.
INFOOEM unlock is not implemented error...
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Well here was to wishful thinking. Thanks for checking.
The phone wont work if he tries to update SBF with the droid x2s.. He wont be able to call n such.... The baseband will change and so will his PRLs....
The update.zip SHOULDN'T work on your device due to needed apk checks... you could try to edit it and remove the kernel flashes... that would be your best bet.
Well I'm hopefully meeting up with someone tomorrow before work who has the same phone and provider whose rooted..will post back with what I can
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kool kool man... keep the REFs and Mods seperate till they become tested fully. They should ALL work because none of the mods so far flash the kernel, but still be careful because(TO MY KNOWLEDGE) we don't have a SBF for that phone. And It would suck balls if your baseband n stuff got flashed over.
Just post in the OPs that its for the Milestone x2 and one of the guys will index it for you in the stickies. Also, PM me when you get it rooted, and flash another rom. I need to see if something changes if you dont mind.

Soak test

I just got the email the soak test will be pushed out tomorrow
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Tomorrow will be the day. It is not ICS.
more 23:44 hours? why?
Same here. Can't wait!
I assume only for CDMA?
MOTOROLA, Y U NO SOAK TEST GSM VERSION?!
Apparently not going to be ics just a bug fix
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According to Droid Life, it's not ICS, it's 6.12.181
Did the email specifically state that it is ICS?
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it's not ICS, it's 6.12.181. Have fun.
WOW, how much of an epic fail is this?... rhetorical question..
Does not surprise me given what some people are saying about leak.
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poisonousjuice said:
it's not ICS, it's 6.12.181. Have fun.
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So Janker5050 could not have received ICS OTA? And so many insisted on believing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577476
Haha that sucks too bad no ics oh well. Any update is good for me. Ics will be here soon enough
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Lets say we're rooted and was selected to do the soak test....can we use voodoo rootkeep to temp unroot to download soak test or do we have to SBF back to last update to download it? I'm just asking as a way to help others that were selected and rooted with stock ROM
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kimo91 said:
Lets say we're rooted and was selected to do the soak test....can we use voodoo rootkeep to temp unroot to download soak test or do we have to SBF back to last update to download it? I'm just asking as a way to help others that were selected and rooted with stock ROM
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My (?) is that if they signed up for a soak test why would you root the Razr knowing you could be potentially chosen?
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My (?) is that if they signed up for a soak test why would you root the Razr knowing you could be potentially chosen?
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because you can undo it in 5 minutes or less?
fliptwister said:
Does not surprise me given what some people are saying about leak.
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What are people saying? I think the leaks is stable and works great.
Son uhv uh.... This just gives me more reason to root, and run the leak(as much as I didn't want to)...
My Tab's Flyer than yours (unless this is posted in a Flyer thread, then it's just as Flyer...)
http://android-gz.com
ghoticov said:
What are people saying? I think the leaks is stable and works great.
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I'm also curious, what are people complaining about? I've had my screen on for the last 4 hours customizing, playing with and generally enjoying ICS. I've yet to experience any issues whatsoever...? Genuinely wondering what problems people are having? Why would they put the ICS release candidate on their staging/soak server if it was riddled with bugs?
Hummmm
Have you people really used ICS I think its horrible even if they do get it working on these phones it still sucks! Just make the battery last a month on one charge and connect to any wi-fi without having to log in, and make apps shut off when you exit out of them. That's all we want out of our phones right??? We can only dream about having phones that work right there will always be someone with an issue with their phone as long as we are getting phones that do all these great things!! Sorry my little rant i'm just done hearing everyone saying when is ICS coming to our phones!! Everyone knows when they do release it thousands will install and instantly start having issues so then another update and another it will never end! How many phones that are out work perfectly? I probably wont even update to ICS when it comes I like the way my phone works now and know where everything is! If you want ICS just install a different launcher done!!
Back in February, everyone was screaming for ICS on their Asus Transformer. Now, the majority of people wished they never got it because it has caused nothing but grief for many (not all) owners. (lockups, random reboots, and general instability).

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