Ok so p3 said "Good Morning, and hang on to that DX2 folks: It will get an update and looks like its going to be 2.3.4 - no eta though." in theory what this means is that it might have an unlocked boot loader, if so, we just have to be patient this is only a guess and credit to finding this post goes to "quadjacks" again this is true speculation on my part...
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and for everyone wondering why the cwm for dx2 hasn't been released by me is because the restore feature can't mount the sd card, after this issue is fixed it will be released, if not i'll still probably release it soon if the dev of this app doesn't get back to me
Have a good one
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Not sure if it's a truly unlocked bootloader or a work-around to custom Rom's from what I've been reading. I could be wrong. I think the only way to get a true unlocked Bootloader is from Motorola and it looks like that's never going to happen..
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Not sure if it's a truly unlocked bootloader or a work-around to custom Rom's from what I've been reading. I could be wrong. I think the only way to get a true unlocked Bootloader is from Motorola and it looks like that's never going to happen..
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Except... That's exactly what people are saying WILL happen when Gingerbread comes. OR at least I'm pretty sure that's how the Atrix got it's unlock. It even had the "Warning" from Moto about the warranty violation.
We'll just have to wait and see
Hopefully it happens soon so that I can keep this and not spend 200 on the bionic or tbolt
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Moved to proper forum.
I doubt this means unlocked bootloader. It just means that a lot of the glitches/problems with the X2 will be resolved with this update, as well as the system utilizing both cores effectively. It should resolve the majority of issues X2 users have been suffering from. Now, considering p3 mentioned it, it does lead me to develop the idea that p3 has obtained a leak of the update and will be releasing within the next 2 weeks. The IT'S update is speculated to be here by the end of August.
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2 weeks! Thats awesome!! And what is that "IT'S" release u mentioned??
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it isnt august yet....
They it starts rolling out next week... legitly so unless p3 obtainted a dev version with an unlocked bl we are out of luck
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2 weeks! Thats awesome!! And what is that "IT'S" release u mentioned?
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I was wondering the same thing. Guess no one knows ;-) .
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Why were they able to root and unlock the boot loader and everything else on the thunderbolt so quickly but yet no one can do it on the atrix?
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Sorry, I don't know.
Because it's not locked or signed?
There's seems to be some discussion regarding it being locked or not. Engadget wrote an article about it being locked but there are a lot of comments from readers with evidence to the contrary.
With it being broken so fast, I believe it wasn't locked or signed.
Um. The phone is not unlocked. In fact the devs were in for a surprise to see the phone has signed bootloader. Signed karnel. Everything is sihned. Which is a furst for htc phone . The only thing they managed to do is root it. And they already did with the atrix. Once you have a signed bootloader and karnel. There is not much you can do.
The article was posted new today or yesterday at engadget. And nothing happened since then.
Its safe to assume all companies right now will use a locked bootloader and karnel. They dont want you to keep your phone. They want you to update.
So basically unless an employee leaks the codes we are s o l.that really sux.
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Android police is reporting that the Bootloader has been unlocked.
http://www.androidpolice.com/2011/0...he-htc-thunderbolt-and-unlock-its-bootloader/
Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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Exactly and since the bootloader will never be unlocked on the Atrix then its going back next week. Suck it moto!
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Yea I'm in the same boat, I might just go back to my captivate in the next week. I really like this phone but I don't feel like much progress is being made. I know there are a few busting ass trying to crack this thing but that doesn't necessaraly mean theyre making progress. Although they did get a copy of that unlocked/deencrypted phone from ken so maybe we'll see something soon.
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most android hackers are on verizon, because they went in with android first. the least amount of android hackers are on at&t. also, they had better resources, they were leaked a beta bootloader that was unlocked, and also a previous ruu image (like sbf but for htc)
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Right.So like I asked earlier, why were they able to unlock that one and not ours?
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I don't know the true reason, but historically, HTC phones are more "open" and "hackable" than Motorola phones (excluding the original Droid). It's just a different company policy more than likely. Is this policy different with the Thunderbolt? I'm not sure...
there is a definitive difference between 'Locked' and 'Encrypted'
which are you doing?
Definitely Staying For Now. Sounds Like P3 Wants To Root Gingerbread The Second It Drops Then I'll Upgrade.
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Definitely Staying For Now. Sounds Like P3 Wants To Root Gingerbread The Second It Drops Then I'll Upgrade.
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same here, i think
I'm having reboots every day on froyo. I don't think I have much to lose by upgrading.
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Im gonna take the update. I sbf'd last night. Im gonna try to save the update and install later. Im gonna see if the xda community can root it and I can go back to being bloat free
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Im not rommed but im rooted, but i hear lots of people talk about SBFing to stock so they can get the update, but if your just rooted doesnt it not matter?
EDIT, never owned a Droid and have always used phones with easily unlocked bootloaders so this whole SBF thing is new to me
My experience with other droids, You will get the update still but it might fail installing if you are rooted. Some custom roms remove the ota ability.
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Also theres a good chance the sbf will not work if you take the OTA update just ask the atrix users
No root, no upgrade. I've got my Honeycomb tablet rooted, rom'd, and OC'd faster than the phone, I can hold out until Verizon allows a full unlock if I have to.
How would the abc not work after the ota? DROID x users can sbf from .496 back to 2.3.340 .then again I understand this is a new phone .... and ATRIX users can't sbf back to 2.2? Wow.
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How would the abc not work after the ota? DROID x users can sbf from .496 back to 2.3.340 .then again I understand this is a new phone .... and ATRIX users can't sbf back to 2.2? Wow.
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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Im gonna wait and see what happens with the updaters... Let them deal with what may come... I have downloaded the update from the link in another thread for when everything does get sorted out...
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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+1 on that. I have NO plans to apply this update. I'm rooted and need to stay that way.
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abc? I'm assuming you mean sbf.
The x did lose their sbf ability, then they got a new one. Any time a OTA updates the bootloader, the current sbf becomes worthless. New bootloader needs a new sbf.
BTW so far this isn't 100% confirmed but it *looks* like the x2 gingerbread update contains a new bootloader, meaning it probably will hard brick your phone if you try to sbf. So if you already updated, have fun waiting for the dev team to find an exploit to root 2.3.4. You basically updated to a D3 minus the keyboard.
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Yep just ask the attic users which tried to sbf from 2.3.4 they all got a hard brick
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I don't plan on updating until GB is rooted.
Seems like a lot of people around the net upgraded not knowing it can't be rooted, or are disappointed in the update (for trivial reasons). I will wait to see what P3 is doing today with it via his Twitter https://twitter.com/#!/P3Droid
I am waiting. In cases like this I suspend my usual early adopter mentality. I'd like to be able to root and sbf. I bought the phone after I saw the sbf (and days before Verizon implemented tiered data) so I feel no need to cripple myself.
That said, I am envious of those playing with their "new" phones today.
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well i voted i was going to stay (rooted and affinity rom), but i broke down and upgraded... havent regretted it yet
To bad this isn't 2.3.4 its 2.3.3 one reason I haven't upgraded yet I want all the new blur features or im keeping root.
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if VZW released the DX2 in Europe (possibly with an unlocked BL) couldn't we use files off that phone to unlock our BL? (if any of this was released, of course!)
Also, the photon now has their BL unlocked, and the DX2 and Photon are cousins couldn't we try their method(s) to unlock our BL? Unless that's not possible at all.
Sorry guys, these are just random thoughts that have crossed through my head.
I don't think we could because VZW would probably put a different bl on the Europe version. And I think I read our kernel doesn't have an option to unlock it any ways, so we would need a new kernel that gets past the sig check, then try to unlock it. Could be wrong though. Still learning this stuff haha
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Verizon Wireless, who is an American Subsidiary wouldn't release a phone in Europe, lol. And Moto won't release the phone there because A. It is old news now, and B. They are predominantly a GSM region.
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I don't think we could because VZW would probably put a different bl on the Europe version. And I think I read our kernel doesn't have an option to unlock it any ways, so we would need a new kernel that gets past the sig check, then try to unlock it. Could be wrong though. Still learning this stuff haha
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so if our kernel wasn't unlockable then thered be no BL pudding for us unless we found the sbf that had an unlocked bl, correct?
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so if our kernel wasn't unlockable then thered be no BL pudding for us unless we found the sbf that had an unlocked bl, correct?
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I think so. But I'm not completely sure. I need to go back and read the bl notes thread.
But there are ways around it, like the theory of 2nd init starting a different kernel. So maybe some one could find a way around and we wouldn't have to wait for the SBF. But I think the SBF would come faster, if we get one.
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true, if the photon has a sbf that's been leaked then the DX2 has gotta have one as well, or at least that's a theory
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Yeah. Just gotta hope some one catches it off a server it gets it from the inside!
I'd be sick to see what this could do with an unlocked bl!
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IDMA.DROID.X2 said:
Yeah. Just gotta hope some one catches it off a server it gets it from the inside!
I'd be sick to see what this could do with an unlocked bl!
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well, I think i found a new update on the servers, 2.3.5 for the DX2, but who do i send it to?
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well, I think i found a new update on the servers, 2.3.5 for the DX2, but who do i send it to?
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Just saw your post in the other thread! Nice!! Send it to the guy who replied, and maybe send it to some ROM devs
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Gotcha, yeah, I figured I'd see what it it's all about, but you can't root it, pete's rooting tools wouldn't root nor unroot my phone, so i think the exploit was covered up, which def sucks.
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Gotcha, yeah, I figured I'd see what it it's all about, but you can't root it, pete's rooting tools wouldn't root nor unroot my phone, so i think the exploit was covered up, which def sucks.
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Yeah! Maybe some one can find another exploit that'll work. See if you can pull the update again and copy the update file to your PC and upload it to mediafire and post a link to it for anybody who's interested. I'd see if I could help, but I'm not at a PC.
How's it running with the update? Any noticeable changes?
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I'd tell you, but I had to sbf back to 2.3.4 to do anything that was relevant to unlocking the BL.
but I have overmind at the IRC, so i think i'ma try and pull the update again and not update and see if i can pull it.
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Yeah! Maybe some one can find another exploit that'll work. See if you can pull the update again and copy the update file to your PC and upload it to mediafire and post a link to it for anybody who's interested. I'd see if I could help, but I'm not at a PC.
How's it running with the update? Any noticeable changes?
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the only thing on 2.3.5 we found was a faster non-delayed lockscreen, but there may be more soon!
afaik the only markets the x2 was released was the united states and mexico.
I could be wrong though.
In the many threads we have on unlocking the bootloader there is much discussions that have been beaten to death about unlocking using other phones methods. Bottom line it just isn't possible due to kernel differences and hardware differences. Check the "project thread" in development section for more info about why.
there was a LOT of discussion about it around the time we got the ATRIX ports as well.
And the ring able to start a second kernel after ours starts needs kexec to work along with 2nd init. I don't believe 2nd init alone will be able to start a new kernel. People had worked on kexec I believe but it didn't go far. We need more of a team to get something like this wiring but as of now we have requested a couple dev teams to help us out but were told "not working on x2 at this time....busy with other projects" or something to that effect. Hopefully we will get that leaked sbf that has our unlock one day....I did hear a while ago from a little birdie that an sbf was found that had oem unlock option but it didn't work/unlock wasn't implemented so hopefully we are getting a little closer.
**don't ask me where I heard it...and don't ask for any links for proof...I have NO proof for what I say....just take it as it is....believe if u want or don't believe if u want....either way keep your eyes and ears peeled and keep trying to find us that unlock option....this phone could destroy many others if we get unlocked***
Just got an email, 2:48Est, for a new Soak test for the X2? What could this be?
Go for it and check it out and let us know. You can always sbf back. How do you get on their list?
nothing was on the servers thus far, btw
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I signed up! I bet it is GB 2.3.5 or 2.3.6. With minor bug fixes...
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I was thinking the same as litetaker. Moto and VZW just released some bug-fixes for the D2 and something else if I remember right. Probably the same with the X2. One thing I don't get is that they complain the LTE in the Tegra devices like the XOOM is what is holding up ICS since the WiFi version has it already. Basically the X2 is just a smaller XOOM and since it only has the CDMA portion why can't it run ICS. The Specs of my X2 are better than my Nexus S 4G and I have my ROM running 4.0.3 on that without issue. Being Tegra based they can't blame that unless there is something in the CDMA holding it up.
What rom are you running that is 4.0.3 on the x2???
Woot! Lets hope its a music fix finally... right guys? Right?
I signed up today as well... I am thinking the same thing... it has to be a bug fix update.
I can't see them getting ICS out this quickly considering it was only about a month ago when it was put on the 'might be considered list'.
Motorola might move that fast enough to get it done... but VZW is slow.
Where is people signing up at?
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What rom are you running that is 4.0.3 on the x2???
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I believe he's talking about his nexus
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Where is people signing up at?
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It's an invite. You need to sign up for the Motorola Feedback Network at the Motforums.
http://forums.motorola.com/
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It's an invite. You need to sign up for the Motorola Feedback Network at the Motforums.
http://forums.motorola.com/
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I never could find the sign up sheet. But then again can I run a stock rom? Lol don't think I can anymore. I will wait to see what's released and I am sure it will be on the forum soon and the developers can start using it.
Our luck its 2.3.5/412 or 413
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Our luck its 2.3.5/412 or 413
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I thought the same thing. Or they just fixed all root paths lol
No that nothing.
235/413 BUT with Pepperm1nts battery fix!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Recieved the same email. Ill hold off since I see what happened to the original X with their latest update. Now they're stuck and can't even SBF to any older builds. No root? No thanks...I have learned to just be humble when it comes to updates now.
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Everyone: be sure to VooDoo before you take the OTA!
http://androiddev.orkitra.com/download/apps/?appid=-2821155941944302146
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Our luck its 2.3.5/412 or 413
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Recieved the same email. Ill hold off since I see what happened to the original X with their latest update. Now they're stuck and can't even SBF to any older builds. No root? No thanks...I have learned to just be humble when it comes to updates now.
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They can no longer sbf??? Wtf nevermind let someone else verify the update first. I don't trust moto they spend more time and money blocking root and development than fixing their own problems.
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Recieved the same email. Ill hold off since I see what happened to the original X with their latest update. Now they're stuck and can't even SBF to any older builds. No root? No thanks...I have learned to just be humble when it comes to updates now.
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Thanks for the heads-up, I hadn't read about this issue until seeing your post. Motorola clearly hates their customer base, viewing them as sheep to callously monetize.
I don't mean to go all Richard Stallman here, but Moto can't be trusted--they let us know that with the locked bootloader. That said, the DX2 is my last device...and NO way will I be a part of this soak test.
Again, thanks for the heads up, cheers.
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You have to be invited... To get invited you need to join the Motorola Feedback Network.
I just got the email the soak test will be pushed out tomorrow
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Tomorrow will be the day. It is not ICS.
more 23:44 hours? why?
Same here. Can't wait!
I assume only for CDMA?
MOTOROLA, Y U NO SOAK TEST GSM VERSION?!
Apparently not going to be ics just a bug fix
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According to Droid Life, it's not ICS, it's 6.12.181
Did the email specifically state that it is ICS?
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it's not ICS, it's 6.12.181. Have fun.
WOW, how much of an epic fail is this?... rhetorical question..
Does not surprise me given what some people are saying about leak.
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it's not ICS, it's 6.12.181. Have fun.
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So Janker5050 could not have received ICS OTA? And so many insisted on believing:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1577476
Haha that sucks too bad no ics oh well. Any update is good for me. Ics will be here soon enough
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Lets say we're rooted and was selected to do the soak test....can we use voodoo rootkeep to temp unroot to download soak test or do we have to SBF back to last update to download it? I'm just asking as a way to help others that were selected and rooted with stock ROM
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Lets say we're rooted and was selected to do the soak test....can we use voodoo rootkeep to temp unroot to download soak test or do we have to SBF back to last update to download it? I'm just asking as a way to help others that were selected and rooted with stock ROM
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My (?) is that if they signed up for a soak test why would you root the Razr knowing you could be potentially chosen?
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My (?) is that if they signed up for a soak test why would you root the Razr knowing you could be potentially chosen?
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because you can undo it in 5 minutes or less?
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Does not surprise me given what some people are saying about leak.
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What are people saying? I think the leaks is stable and works great.
Son uhv uh.... This just gives me more reason to root, and run the leak(as much as I didn't want to)...
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What are people saying? I think the leaks is stable and works great.
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I'm also curious, what are people complaining about? I've had my screen on for the last 4 hours customizing, playing with and generally enjoying ICS. I've yet to experience any issues whatsoever...? Genuinely wondering what problems people are having? Why would they put the ICS release candidate on their staging/soak server if it was riddled with bugs?
Hummmm
Have you people really used ICS I think its horrible even if they do get it working on these phones it still sucks! Just make the battery last a month on one charge and connect to any wi-fi without having to log in, and make apps shut off when you exit out of them. That's all we want out of our phones right??? We can only dream about having phones that work right there will always be someone with an issue with their phone as long as we are getting phones that do all these great things!! Sorry my little rant i'm just done hearing everyone saying when is ICS coming to our phones!! Everyone knows when they do release it thousands will install and instantly start having issues so then another update and another it will never end! How many phones that are out work perfectly? I probably wont even update to ICS when it comes I like the way my phone works now and know where everything is! If you want ICS just install a different launcher done!!
Back in February, everyone was screaming for ICS on their Asus Transformer. Now, the majority of people wished they never got it because it has caused nothing but grief for many (not all) owners. (lockups, random reboots, and general instability).