This is going to be lengthy...I apologize, bear with me. I have been a customer of Sprint for nearly 7 years. I currently have 5 lines on my account, and I have NEVER experienced anything like this.
My friend Patrick, who lives an hour away is one of those 5 lines. About a month ago, his Evo 4G phone broke, and due to having a warranty on his device, Sprint shipped him out a replacement. Fast forward a few weeks, and last Thursday, July 21st, his replacement phone stopped charging. The following day, he went into the Sprint store, and they ordered another replacement phone for him, that was supposed to arrive at my address either Monday or Tuesday.
On Tuesday, July 26th, the phone hadn't arrived yet. Since Patrick doesn't have another line, I call Sprint that evening around 7PM where I talked to Derek, out of Texas call center. He told me that the Evo 4G is on backorder for warranty exchanges, and that it may take up to 10 business day for it to ship. Then, Derek himself offered to send a different device instead. Note, I did not ask for this, he offered it for me. I said sure, and he offered me several devices, including Nexus S 4G, Kyocera Echo, and, to my bewilderment, Evo 3D. He said that due to the hassle this has caused, he was willing to do that for me.
When all was said and done, and we ended the conversation, and I received the confirmation email. Unfortunately, I noticed that the defective phone was listed as MY own phone (Evo 3D), and that the exchange was supposed to be done under MY phone number. Afraid that this was a mistake, I called them back, and this is when the roller coaster started.
The first guy (I didn't write down the names at this point, because I assumed this was going to be a simple fix) said that she couldn't believe that I was offered an Evo 3D, and after putting me on hold for 28 minutes, she came back and she said she would transfer me to their tech department. When I told the tech person what had happened, she said that it was impossible to make such a promise, and despite the fact that my customer note did in fact confirm that the upgrade was to be made, she didn't want to do it for me. At this point, she says she canceled the new Evo 3D order, even though I told her not to do it. I ask to speak to the manager, and I was then placed on hold for 45 minutes.
At this point, I decide to hang up, and try again. The second time I called, THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENS. After being on hold for over an hour, I call the retention department. Rhonda says that she will try to fix the situation, and then she transfers me to "customer relation specialist," Derek (a different one) answers. After he was confirming to his superiors and chatting, he comes back to the conversation and tells me that they will honor the complimentary upgrade, and that he will call me around Thursday, July 28th (today, as of this writing) to handle the exchange. I mentioned the fact that Evo 3D order was canceled, but he tells me that in fact it hasn't, according to his system.
The next day, July 27th, around 12 PM, I get a phone call from Derek, apologizing for his mistake, and that the order was indeed canceled. He then transfers me to another tech department, and at this point, I get the run around that their system experienced a bug and that they are unable to fulfill the promise, despite what my "customer note" said. At this point, I was at a boiling point, having spent nearly 5 hours on phone with them in order to fix THEIR mistake. The manager offers me a Nexus S, which I accepted.
On July 28th, I get another shipping confirmation. Unfortunately, it was shipping confirmation for the Evo 3D, still under my number. Angered and confused and desperate, I try calling customer service, only to be given a rundown "what do you want me to do?" At this point, I go to a local Sprint store, where I talk to Brandon, one of the store managers. After patiently listening to my story, and reading over the notes, he confirmed that it was Sprint mistake, and that he will resolve it however necessary. He also confirmed that the Evo 3D was shipped and that the Nexus S order was canceled. At this point, he wrote a lengthy note on my account. He says that Patrick should just active the 3D, and ship the 4G back, and that the note should take care of everything. I thanked him and left the store.
Fast forward a few hours later, Patrick received his phone. Unfortunately, the exchanged phone came with no battery, and 4G battery does NOT fit into a 3D. I call Brandon at the local store, and tells me that sometimes that happens, and that Patrick can simply go to a local store and get the right battery.
At his local store, Ryan, the assistant store manager, refused to provide a replacement battery, saying that Patrick received the 3D in error, and that he should have received a Nexus S instead, and that his system is showing that the Nexus S order is NOT canceled. At this point, I get a phone call from frustrated Patrick, using one of their in store phones. Ryan refused to call Brandon in my local Sprint store to confirm the story, and he also would not talk to me. After a lot more arguing, Ryan finally provided the battery for Patrick.
After this whole ordeal, I am simply APPALLED at the customer service that was provided. Being given a run around, and being left on hold for an hour two times just to get rid of me, I felt that both Patrick and I were mistreated and lied to. I do appreciate what Derek tried to do for me, and Brandon's customer service went far and beyond to attempt to resolve this issue, but overall, this has left a sour taste. Despite getting a free 3D upgrade, in the end, it just wasn't worth it.
Now, I am also scared of what may happen when the Evo 4G is shipped back. Guess I can always head to Brandon, the only person willing to help me out in all of this.
I don't really know why I posted this...I think I just had to vent. The sad thing is, my 30 day return window on Evo 3D ended 2 days ago. Otherwise, they would have lost a customer.
If you have any more issues with them just call retentions and they will work with you without the hassle. For my wife's EVO they skipped all the hassle and just gave me a new in box after having a similar problem with their customer service. If you look around the number is out there. (that's how I found out about retentions)
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Seems like a ton of time spent and believe me I have been there with sprint. Silver lining is you got an EVO3d for free. 5+ hours saved you 200 bones. Also sounds like your buddy owes you some beers. From the sounds of things you could use them.
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Wow! I am apalled and shocked! This is all amazingly nuts. I would have been flipping! Its cool that you got a free 3D but holy ****, thats a lot crap to deal with to get it!
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This is going to be lengthy...I apologize, bear with me. I have been a customer of Sprint for nearly 7 years. I currently have 5 lines on my account, and I have NEVER experienced anything like this.
My friend Patrick, who lives an hour away is one of those 5 lines. About a month ago, his Evo 4G phone broke, and due to having a warranty on his device, Sprint shipped him out a replacement. Fast forward a few weeks, and last Thursday, July 21st, his replacement phone stopped charging. The following day, he went into the Sprint store, and they ordered another replacement phone for him, that was supposed to arrive at my address either Monday or Tuesday.
On Tuesday, July 26th, the phone hadn't arrived yet. Since Patrick doesn't have another line, I call Sprint that evening around 7PM where I talked to Derek, out of Texas call center. He told me that the Evo 4G is on backorder for warranty exchanges, and that it may take up to 10 business day for it to ship. Then, Derek himself offered to send a different device instead. Note, I did not ask for this, he offered it for me. I said sure, and he offered me several devices, including Nexus S 4G, Kyocera Echo, and, to my bewilderment, Evo 3D. He said that due to the hassle this has caused, he was willing to do that for me.
When all was said and done, and we ended the conversation, and I received the confirmation email. Unfortunately, I noticed that the defective phone was listed as MY own phone (Evo 3D), and that the exchange was supposed to be done under MY phone number. Afraid that this was a mistake, I called them back, and this is when the roller coaster started.
The first guy (I didn't write down the names at this point, because I assumed this was going to be a simple fix) said that she couldn't believe that I was offered an Evo 3D, and after putting me on hold for 28 minutes, she came back and she said she would transfer me to their tech department. When I told the tech person what had happened, she said that it was impossible to make such a promise, and despite the fact that my customer note did in fact confirm that the upgrade was to be made, she didn't want to do it for me. At this point, she says she canceled the new Evo 3D order, even though I told her not to do it. I ask to speak to the manager, and I was then placed on hold for 45 minutes.
At this point, I decide to hang up, and try again. The second time I called, THE EXACT SAME THING HAPPENS. After being on hold for over an hour, I call the retention department. Rhonda says that she will try to fix the situation, and then she transfers me to "customer relation specialist," Derek (a different one) answers. After he was confirming to his superiors and chatting, he comes back to the conversation and tells me that they will honor the complimentary upgrade, and that he will call me around Thursday, July 28th (today, as of this writing) to handle the exchange. I mentioned the fact that Evo 3D order was canceled, but he tells me that in fact it hasn't, according to his system.
The next day, July 27th, around 12 PM, I get a phone call from Derek, apologizing for his mistake, and that the order was indeed canceled. He then transfers me to another tech department, and at this point, I get the run around that their system experienced a bug and that they are unable to fulfill the promise, despite what my "customer note" said. At this point, I was at a boiling point, having spent nearly 5 hours on phone with them in order to fix THEIR mistake. The manager offers me a Nexus S, which I accepted.
On July 28th, I get another shipping confirmation. Unfortunately, it was shipping confirmation for the Evo 3D, still under my number. Angered and confused and desperate, I try calling customer service, only to be given a rundown "what do you want me to do?" At this point, I go to a local Sprint store, where I talk to Brandon, one of the store managers. After patiently listening to my story, and reading over the notes, he confirmed that it was Sprint mistake, and that he will resolve it however necessary. He also confirmed that the Evo 3D was shipped and that the Nexus S order was canceled. At this point, he wrote a lengthy note on my account. He says that Patrick should just active the 3D, and ship the 4G back, and that the note should take care of everything. I thanked him and left the store.
Fast forward a few hours later, Patrick received his phone. Unfortunately, the exchanged phone came with no battery, and 4G battery does NOT fit into a 3D. I call Brandon at the local store, and tells me that sometimes that happens, and that Patrick can simply go to a local store and get the right battery.
At his local store, Ryan, the assistant store manager, refused to provide a replacement battery, saying that Patrick received the 3D in error, and that he should have received a Nexus S instead, and that his system is showing that the Nexus S order is NOT canceled. At this point, I get a phone call from frustrated Patrick, using one of their in store phones. Ryan refused to call Brandon in my local Sprint store to confirm the story, and he also would not talk to me. After a lot more arguing, Ryan finally provided the battery for Patrick.
After this whole ordeal, I am simply APPALLED at the customer service that was provided. Being given a run around, and being left on hold for an hour two times just to get rid of me, I felt that both Patrick and I were mistreated and lied to. I do appreciate what Derek tried to do for me, and Brandon's customer service went far and beyond to attempt to resolve this issue, but overall, this has left a sour taste. Despite getting a free 3D upgrade, in the end, it just wasn't worth it.
Now, I am also scared of what may happen when the Evo 4G is shipped back. Guess I can always head to Brandon, the only person willing to help me out in all of this.
I don't really know why I posted this...I think I just had to vent. The sad thing is, my 30 day return window on Evo 3D ended 2 days ago. Otherwise, they would have lost a customer.
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Sorry you had to go through all of that. I hope it all works out from now.
I had a pretty terrible experience with sprints customer service too: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1182917
To put it simply, Sprint's CS is an absolute abomination for the most part, I like their pricing and products but they really need to continue to improve in how they treat customers.
Next time you experience an issue call this number (877)775-4886 This is the retention line and the folks in this department usually bend over backwards to help you out.
Its the only number I dial whenever I have any issues, no matter how small.
I hate dealing with Sprint on the phone.....What a bunch of Monkeys they are. I ALWAYS go to the local Sprint store.....for warranties, insurance claims, new phones, etc.. They deal with all of the BS for me.
Ok there are two options:
1) Call Sprint retentions and ask for an early upgrade. Tell them your whole ordeal and then explain to them that at this point, that's the only thing that would keep you as a customer. Throw in the whole "I've been a customer for 7 years and this is how you treat me?". It will renew your contract when you use but they'll give it to you. There's a whole thread about it. The direct number (no phone-tree menus) is: (877)775-4886
Thread is here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093232
I can personally confirm this works as I'm now rocking an Evo 3D after only a year of having an Evo.
2) Email [email protected] with your problem, your name and number (and one to contact you at if it's different than your Sprint number). Someone from the Office of Dan Hesse (yes I'm serious) will contact you and help you solve your problem. I worked with them on several big issues. Your problem will always be dealt with by the same person you started with and they'll email you confirmations after every conversations along with their direct line. This is used for big problems, like what you're describing. They have a lot more power than normal reps and I suggest you use this if the first method isn't enough for you.
Thank you all for your responses. While the issue is currently resolved after the whole ordeal, there is still that chance that something will go awry when the 4G is sent back (since the warranty exchange was performed under my #/Evo 3D).
Even though the store manager placed in the notes what to do, I am not holding my breath. I'll email dan, and call retentions, if talking to the store manager doesn't resolve this potential issue.
Again, thank you. I truly feel better
thank god for tmobile, btw I bet if you had threaten to leave sprint they would've straighten you out quick fast and in a hurry.
Me and my mom had a similar problem. She called and used the same story on the evo 4g forums to upgrade early using her upgrade. Well we went to the sprint store and my mom tried talking to the sprint manager and he gave her the number to cs. shes on the phone with them for 2 hours saying she wants her upgrade early for her sons early birthday. Anyways after 2 hours and a chat with the manager of that facility she gets it and they say it takes 48 hours to activate the upgrade to the system and the manager promises her on monday it will be cleared. Monday rolls around and NO upgrade to her account. So my mom gets hysterical and the sprint people tell her to call cs again well my mom gets pissed with cs and they transfer her to retentions, where the retentions manager pushs an immediate push for the upgrade that was another hour on the phone. Then another 45 minutes for the sprint people to activate my evo 3d into the system. ahh well it saved me $350 for the early upgrade and 4 hourts argueing with the sprint peoples lol.
sounds to me like sprint is hooking yall up big time at the cost of jumping through a few hoops
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I doubt you have anything to worry about with the return or whatever being under another number.... Not sure what it is youre worried about exactly
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mcmikecruz1 said:
sounds to me like sprint is hooking yall up big time at the cost of jumping through a few hoops
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This. And also, what other cell company overnights new phones to customers and also will give you a free sprint airave if you ask them?
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They CAN and WILL give you an early upgrade. It adds another year to your contract (assuming you have one left already). And it takes effect immediately. If they say "it takes 24-48 hours to show up", they're lying. They tried that one me. I called back after 2 days and told them "so and so promised me an early upgrade and it's not there" and they did it IMMEDIATELY. I logged into my Sprint account while on the phone and saw it.
And on top of that the system glitched and gave me another upgrade even after I used it on the Evo 3D. Now I also have a Nexus S 4G lol.
This doesnt make any sense to me. You just got a FREE Evo 3D....I really dont care what it took to get it done...the fact that you got a free Evo 3D is pretty impressive and reason enough to be satisfied with the end result.
Granted the whole ordeal was a massive headache...but you still recieved a device that is so new Sprint has very limited flexibility with for FREE. Hell...I would have willingly gone thru all that you went thru to save the 200 bucks for a sweet ass phone.
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This doesnt make any sense to me. You just got a FREE Evo 3D....I really dont care what it took to get it done...the fact that you got a free Evo 3D is pretty impressive and reason enough to be satisfied with the end result.
Granted the whole ordeal was a massive headache...but you still recieved a device that is so new Sprint has very limited flexibility with for FREE. Hell...I would have willingly gone thru all that you went thru to save the 200 bucks for a sweet ass phone.
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+1 , how disgusting though lol
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Product F(RED) said:
They CAN and WILL give you an early upgrade. It adds another year to your contract (assuming you have one left already). And it takes effect immediately. If they say "it takes 24-48 hours to show up", they're lying. They tried that one me. I called back after 2 days and told them "so and so promised me an early upgrade and it's not there" and they did it IMMEDIATELY. I logged into my Sprint account while on the phone and saw it.
And on top of that the system glitched and gave me another upgrade even after I used it on the Evo 3D. Now I also have a Nexus S 4G lol.
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Not to call you out or anything, but the early upgrade is for those customers that would have had an upgrade from April through now August (they keep extending it) due to the Premiere Gold/Silver changes. Beyond that it is YMMV.
And sometimes it does take 1-2 days. I got one before and they said give it 1-2 days and it'll show up, and it didn't show up till the night of the next day, but yeah you're right, they also have the power to do it immediately as well. It could be the reason you got a double upgrade.
ReinMaker said:
Not to call you out or anything, but the early upgrade is for those customers that would have had an upgrade from April through now August (they keep extending it) due to the Premiere Gold/Silver changes. Beyond that it is YMMV.
And sometimes it does take 1-2 days. I got one before and they said give it 1-2 days and it'll show up, and it didn't show up till the night of the next day, but yeah you're right, they also have the power to do it immediately as well. It could be the reason you got a double upgrade.
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Mine would have been this August, but they gave it to me in June because I brought up that point. They'll still give it to you. It's win-win. After about a year, you've finished paying back the difference between the retail and subsidized price of the phone, and by upgrading early, you're adding another year to your contract.
Still better than other companies you're usually on your own with them.
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I went into my local Sprint store today to pre-order the Evo 3D. All I had to do was give them my name, cell number, and e-mail address and I was added to the list. No deposit needed. I asked about getting the yearly upgrade promotional pricing. He said I had a $75 credit due June 1st, but they would most likely manually override it in the system. He gave me a direct number to call to try and get this taken care of.
I just got off the phone, and it was a piece of cake. There wasn't even any menus to go through, the CS rep picked up the phone on the first ring - must be a direct line. Anyway, she asked me a few security questions and then I told her what I was calling about. She said they will put me down to get the $199 promotional pricing not only for my line, but also the other line my girlfriend uses. Said it should take 24-48 hours in the system and they will call me back Wednesday to confirm it. I'm sure your account has to be in good standing to get taken care of. I was thoroughly impressed. The rep at the store told me to stop back up next week and they should know more about the release date.
Here is the direct line if anyone needs it: (877)775-4886
Two thumbs up for Sprint. That was effortless.
Good stuff man.... glad to hear that they took care of you. Also, good job posting the phone number for others to call. Hopefully others have success. The more folks that get this phone and the more awesome it will be.
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murusmaximus said:
I went into my local Sprint store today to pre-order the Evo 3D. All I had to do was give them my name, cell number, and e-mail address and I was added to the list. No deposit needed. I asked about getting the yearly upgrade promotional pricing. He said I had a $75 credit due June 1st, but they would most likely manually override it in the system. He gave me a direct number to call to try and get this taken care of.
I just got off the phone, and it was a piece of cake. There wasn't even any menus to go through, the CS rep picked up the phone on the first ring - must be a direct line. Anyway, she asked me a few security questions and then I told her what I was calling about. She said they will put me down to get the $199 promotional pricing not only for my line, but also the other line my girlfriend uses. Said it should take 24-48 hours in the system and they will call me back Wednesday to confirm it. I'm sure your account has to be in good standing to get taken care of. I was thoroughly impressed. The rep at the store told me to stop back up next week and they should know more about the release date.
Here is the direct line if anyone needs it: (877)775-4886
Two thumbs up for Sprint. That was effortless.
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Its nice you have a good local store, but all the stores around me are terrible. I called in to confirm I could pre order the 3D in the store (as some arent doing accepting preorders yet) and asked what if I needed my account info (as my father owns the account). Left on my lunch break as I work 5 days a week and wasnt going to wait a week to get my preorder in. Arrive to find ~5 customers. I take a seat and wait as all the reps are busy (3). It took me over an hour to talk to a rep and do a 5 minute preorder, which the rep wasnt even sure about how to do it, and she wanted my PIN which I was told on the phone I didnt need.
They didnt ask for my email, only phone number, name, and PIN.
Anyone know if/where you can check the status/confirmation of a preorder? As i am weary that it was done right and really dont want to find out it was done wrong or go back to the store unless its to get my evo 3d
test878 said:
Its nice you have a good local store, but all the stores around me are terrible. I called in to confirm I could pre order the 3D in the store (as some arent doing accepting preorders yet) and asked what if I needed my account info (as my father owns the account). Left on my lunch break as I work 5 days a week and wasnt going to wait a week to get my preorder in. Arrive to find ~5 customers. I take a seat and wait as all the reps are busy (3). It took me over an hour to talk to a rep and do a 5 minute preorder, which the rep wasnt even sure about how to do it, and she wanted my PIN which I was told on the phone I didnt need.
They didnt ask for my email, only phone number, name, and PIN.
Anyone know if/where you can check the status/confirmation of a preorder? As i am weary that it was done right and really dont want to find out it was done wrong or go back to the store unless its to get my evo 3d
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Did you get any type of receipt or put any money down? Why not just go to Best Buy or Radio Shack. All you need is $50 to put down and you will walk out with a gift card and a receipt for your pre-order. No info needed with your Sprint account until you go pickup the phone.
I just like dealing with my local sprint store. They have always been very helpful with any issues I have had. I didn't want to put any money down if it wasn't required. I didn't get a receipt, but he said I will get an email confirmation in 24-48 hours. I didn't think it was that hard to give them my phone #, name, and gmail account. Plus this way, I am now guaranteed the promotional pricing. Not sure I could get that with Radio Shack or Best Buy.
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Did you get any type of receipt or put any money down? Why not just go to Best Buy or Radio Shack. All you need is $50 to put down and you will walk out with a gift card and a receipt for your pre-order. No info needed with your Sprint account until you go pickup the phone.
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Did you get any type of receipt or put any money down? Why not just go to Best Buy or Radio Shack. All you need is $50 to put down and you will walk out with a gift card and a receipt for your pre-order. No info needed with your Sprint account until you go pickup the phone.
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yes i got a receipt that only mentions the $50 gift card purchase and then a separate print out of a confirmation number, but i would like to double check that as the rep (apparently) stopped half way through and realized she was preordering the htc view and not the evo3d, so if theres anyway of checking online I'd very much appreciate it. Plus she needed help a few times from another associate, so assuming this gets as popular as the original evo... I'd like to make sure my preorder is correct.
Thanks Bro!! Called the number, got my upgrade reinstated till I want to use it and it was painless!!
Now I just need to see if the EVO 3D can be software S-Off, wait till see what the Within (SGS2) looks like, or I can switch to another carrier....
worked like a charm for me too, thanks OP
I will be keeping that phone #!! Thanks so much OP - able to use my wife's upgrade to get my Evo as soon as it comes out instead of waiting until August!
What did you tell the CS rep? Just that you're looking to upgrade to the EVO 3d, but your line isn't eligible for the full discount?
BTW, If you call that number now, and your upgrade was supposed to be in june, you have to cal back on june 1st, there system does not allow them to push the upgrade when its only a few days away from the month it was supposed to be, but on the first of the month it allows them to do it once the "silver upgrade" is available on your account, according to the person I just talked to from that number
I can confirm I was able to reset the upgrade on my partners account. So now we are looking forward to two EVO 3Ds
So if my upgrade is July something... I should probably wait until then?
I have one that is the $75 eligible upgrade right now, could probably call on that maybe.
I'm just curious as to what people are saying, like are you just saying, "Hey I'm looking to get the EVO 3d when it comes out..." to that affect?
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So if my upgrade is July something... I should probably wait until then?
I have one that is the $75 eligible upgrade right now, could probably call on that maybe.
I'm just curious as to what people are saying, like are you just saying, "Hey I'm looking to get the EVO 3d when it comes out..." to that affect?
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I can confirm this works too. I called that number and was told that since my partial upgrade isn't till November and my full upgrade isn't till September 2012 that I could not get the upgrade. I then called the same number again and talked to another rep and explained to them that there nothing defective with my current evo and I know I not eligible for a upgrade but I simply requested a manual override of my upgrade eligibility and they did it for me !! Took about an 30 minutes but it worked. If your eligible for a partial upgrade this process take like 5 minutes tops !! Thanks to the OP.
p.s. I think the buzz word is manual override !!
I'll be trying this tomorrow.... Thanks man!
aronslusa said:
I'll be trying this tomorrow.... Thanks man!
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I wouldn't man. July MIGHT be when the Evo 3D is released or June I don't know. But one month is easier to wait out. I think Sprint only allows for one manual override per line. I would save that override for the future.
From my Gingerbread Hero.
July of next year is when im have the $150 upgrade renewal possible.
I purchased my EVO last July, sold it back to sprint (should've ebayed it) and now am having issues with my Hero. I'm going to move away from CM on my hero to see if thatll change anything.
It randomly powercycles, it won't send or receive texts sometimes, and is just a pita! Lol
With all this talk of HTC locking the bootloader and all the speculation, I may just jump ship and move away from HTC all together.
You know, I actually never got my email for the pre order...
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I pre ordered the Samsung Nexus S 4G from Best Buy.... bought the $50 gift card and everything... Never got the call when they came in.
Got one of our lines bumped up to the full upgrade eligibility, and was told to try calling back in July to see about getting another one done.
The gentleman I talked to said it is a "program they are currently running, and he is unsure when they will stop this promotion."
Thanks for posting this, you helped me a ton!
I was one of the many who lost their existing full upgrade when the Premier rules changed (had full upgrade in Feb, lost it in April). I'm still Premier Silver. Two separate chat sessions were unproductive in trying to get my upgrade eligibility "fully" changed so that it showed on the website, they just told me to call telesales when the phone is available and they'll fix it for you and order the phone. I called this morning at 9:15 EST to order the phone, and after a huge runaround she said that she was working with the Premier department and that as soon as she was able to resolve the issue and order the phone she would call me back. Wasn't expecting anything, but was hopeful. So 3pm rolls around and I just can't take it anymore, and I try again. The guy I talk to puts me on the infamous "no more than 2 minutes" hold five times for a total of 20 minutes on hold, and finally comes back with a final answer of "I advise you to wait until the 24th and go to a store or use the online link and use your $75 upgrade". Couldn't get anywhere with him even though I was very polite but firm. Kept explaining the Premier can buy it on the 21st, and he just kept repeating his "advice". Very, very frustrating. I am starting vacation on Friday and really wanted to get the phone bought and set up before I left! I wouldn't be whining if I didn't know that other people were able to get their dates reset easily... I could have just ordered the durn phone this morning if they just would have done it right. It seems the Premier preorders are backordered, so I lost that opportunity, and based on what happened today who says they will be able to give me the full upgrade as I was promised on Friday, if I can even get one?
Any Sprint insiders have advice or a hookup for me?
I'm actually mad that he didn't ask me at the end of the call if he was able to resolve all my concerns today...
Argh.
Do the same thing. If you get the same answer again, ask for the retention deparment... See how quickly things roll from there.
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Yeah I was in the same boat as you man REALLY disappointed last night after all I had gone through even yesterday to get it taken care of. once again told yesterday that it would be resolved. Still shows $75. Whatever Friday is almost here. Started getting worried that I didn't even get a call from my sprint store, but remembered they will not start calling until Wed evening. So god help them if I don't get a call tomorrow.
why are you awaiting a callback .. call the number in the thread as linked by Zabalba
I had the same issue as well but I got mine resolved by calling up sprint and just asking for it they put me on the line with a supervisory he checked with the premium department and gave me my upgrades so I never had any issues getting my phone.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1093232
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Thank you for this,called the direct line and got my upgrade pushed up to launch day
In one call. after I tried *7 three times and got told nothing we can do.
Thanks everyone. Just like one of the ambulance chaser ads on local TV, "One call, that's all!" Reset my eligibility, ordered online. Now let's see when I get it...
Wish I would have ranted earlier in the day
You just have to ask the right people your questions.
not really getting hosed either way.
it was a great offer while it lasted.
but it would be nice for it to work out for ya.
Yeah i knew I was going to get screwed over with the "changing the upgrade" issue on my premiere account, so I actually started resolving my issue 3 weeks ago so I would be ready for launch. But for me they kept telling me that I have that override note on my account but I wanted it to show on the Best buy computers and on my account that I had the actual upgrade option. So I had to be annoying and threatened to cancel (this was done through email) and lo and behold I got a personal call from someone in the retention department assuring me they were going to change my upgrade status and got rid of that override note. And it worked.. it now says I can upgrade now on my account. So you really need to threaten to cancel to get the eligibility on your account and not that override note.
But since release date is a couple days away make sure to actually call and request a superior and mention to cancel, but obviously don't be rude, it's not the customer's reps fault
Chat does NOTHING, you have to call to get good service. (for most part).
My sister-in-law had this same problem. I called them because she had a $150 upgrade back in November of 2010, and all of a sudden it came up on her account page a week ago that she only had $75 upgrade.
I called and told them to cancel the account, and I wasn't dealing with their thieving company anymore, and I was going to get an iPhone tomorrow (which I wasn't, but I figured it would work).
Within about 2 minutes I had $150 upgrade (on both lines, and the second one wasn't due for a $75 upgrade until December 2011), and a $110 credit on my bill.
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Chat does NOTHING, you have to call to get good service. (for most part).
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I'm going to disagree, i get 100x farther on chat than phone.
No xfering, no disconnects, practically no hold time.
no attitudes in text, and the best part is they email you the chat long so you can hold them the F to what they say haha.
I just called the linked number and bam...all taking care of, just waiting on confirmation so i can get it odered
It's all about the Gold he how has the gold gets the EVO 3D first haha.
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almost got hoed on the 150 upgrade
Yeah they switched that premier status crap on me during the middle of my 1 yr upgrade...I have been with them almost 10 years in october then i would of been able to upgrade to 150 On october 1st for being a gold premier customer...Well right after my year warranty i Accidently dropped my phone on the concrete at my pool last weekend and spider webbed my screen.. Made the call to sprint cause i almost made a claim and changed my mind to get the screen fixed at a 3rd party store..I really didnt want to pay the 100 bucks for a new standard evo.Well i got a phone call from a sprint representative saying that sprint upped my upgrade status to a gold premier customer without me even *****ing to get it and said i could get the phone for 199 with a 2 yr contract and trade in my old evo for 150 on my phone.So now im getting the evo 3d for 50 bucks.
I just became eligible for my 75 discount. I am a premier silver customer. I called sprint and used my Jedi mind tricks and managed to get not only upgrade for 150 discount but also a 200 dollar instant rebate. So I made my order earlier today for only 219.59 after tax. A little charm goes a long way with the right Rep. Good luck.
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Call up Sprint at 877-775-4886 and ask for your upgrade eligibility to be reset. I had to call them today to get my full 2 year eligibility back. It was easy as pie, just be nice to them when you ask for the reset.
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I was one of the many who lost their existing full upgrade when the Premier rules changed (had full upgrade in Feb, lost it in April). I'm still Premier Silver. Two separate chat sessions were unproductive in trying to get my upgrade eligibility "fully" changed so that it showed on the website, they just told me to call telesales when the phone is available and they'll fix it for you and order the phone. I called this morning at 9:15 EST to order the phone, and after a huge runaround she said that she was working with the Premier department and that as soon as she was able to resolve the issue and order the phone she would call me back. Wasn't expecting anything, but was hopeful. So 3pm rolls around and I just can't take it anymore, and I try again. The guy I talk to puts me on the infamous "no more than 2 minutes" hold five times for a total of 20 minutes on hold, and finally comes back with a final answer of "I advise you to wait until the 24th and go to a store or use the online link and use your $75 upgrade". Couldn't get anywhere with him even though I was very polite but firm. Kept explaining the Premier can buy it on the 21st, and he just kept repeating his "advice". Very, very frustrating. I am starting vacation on Friday and really wanted to get the phone bought and set up before I left! I wouldn't be whining if I didn't know that other people were able to get their dates reset easily... I could have just ordered the durn phone this morning if they just would have done it right. It seems the Premier preorders are backordered, so I lost that opportunity, and based on what happened today who says they will be able to give me the full upgrade as I was promised on Friday, if I can even get one?
Any Sprint insiders have advice or a hookup for me?
I'm actually mad that he didn't ask me at the end of the call if he was able to resolve all my concerns today...
Argh.
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All I did was email them through the website. Explained to them that if I wasn't going to get the full upgrade then I was going to be closing my accounts and going to one of the others. They sent me an email in return stating that they would reinstate my full upgrade through the telesales. I then emailed them back saying that I had already had one on preorder and would the full upgrade be marked on my account. I immediately got an email stating that this would be the case. I have printed off the copies and when I goto RS on friday to upgrade if I have any problems I have proof of my conversation. Try going that route. Got all my answers and feedback within 16hrs. Good luck.
WE have been duped by Sprint people. Go to their website and you will notice the announcement of the iPhone 4Gs. You can even pre order it. This privilege was not given for the Samsung Galaxy S 2 ET4G.
Why...was this you say...it's obvious that Sprint knew it had made a deal to buy a **** load of IOS devices to secure this deal with Apple.so they didn't promote the galaxy ET4g. Now they have a big announcement tomorrow. They are going out of their way to let you pre order the iPhone as well.
Sad, and yes I feel they used us to get this deal, by canceling all perks, while giving us crappy service. My Photon has a red circle and no service, and I don't have a ET4G yet. Service has been terrible most of the summer all over NY and in mid town NYC.
If service was being interrupted to better service I may stick around, but not getting signal, failed messages, and paying for it and no credit with lies is unacceptable. Not being able to pre-order the phone I wanted because they made a deal with Crapple is also unforgivable. Price isn't the only thing that matters in a business relationship. It's I pay for service and expect to have it when I want it, not when you decide to give it.
Hell I was told by a customer service rep that I should be happy because I have had a lot of usage on my line. I then said yes that is true, but when I need my service to work it failed to deliver....I missed important calls. and meetings with people because of failed service.
People were telling me when they called the phone rang 3x's and hung up no message was able to be left. Others told me that they would get a network busy message please try again later. One rep verified this condition of calling me, and could not get through. The phone rang 3x's and the line just went dead when they called. I have been to tech centers, and have made many battery pulls, and software reboots, and finally I was told that there was a net work issue and they did not know when it would be cleared. Now when I call to talk about it they put me on hold no music and never come back to talk.
I just don't see it getting better, and when the next generation of phones IE Prime or what ever hits Verizon, and this is not cleared I am gone. When I feel I have to beg for service, or a credit for not receiving service after paying my bills for 15 years, and at one point having a $300 a month phone bills for business it's time to go.
My bill analysis shows that I average 240 msg a month, and average about 2g of data a month, and since I use my phone mostly for calls a Verizion 69.00 phone plan with 10 data, and 10.00 for data equals what I am paying now. So if this doesn't clear with the loss of perks I am outta here.lol
Not we. I use more messages, more data and pay half that. Verizon wouldn't be an option even if I wanted to.
I don't really think Sprint needed to market the ET4g, everyone and their mother knew that phone was coming to Sprint.
Sent from my Photon.
And why the hell is this thread in the PHOTON forum? Smfh...where is a mod when you need one......
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Wrong forum dude, and i'm perfectly happy with my service. Who cares if they give iPhone pre-orders? Its not like its a big surprise. you're just bitter.
I'm team Android all the way, but let's be honest...Apple users aren't nearly as discerning as we are, because they dont have a choice. Therefore if you want one of their phones there is but one launch day, hence a partial explanation for the need of a pre-order.
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even still not having preorders on one of sprints flagship phones (wether they know it is or not) is still poor choice. i mean hell i preordered my ns4g and that was a year too little too late
Thank you for sharing OP.... Now beat it.
Man for a second I thought I was in the wrong forum! Lol!
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Wrong forum dude, and i'm perfectly happy with my service. Who cares if they give iPhone pre-orders? Its not like its a big surprise. you're just bitter.
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bitter....what would I be bitter about poor service through out the NY metro area, and getting no help but run around. Missing important calls and finding out about it hours and days later. This has to change and I am not the only one having connection issues around the states.
I have touted Sprint for 15 years buddy, so get a grip. But, now they seem to be reverting back to the early 2000 era when they fell off the 60 stock high....rofl.
I know I should be ecstatic for my paltry cash that I got **** service with no real explanation for the last 4 months. If it doesn't change by the time a the Prime launches on Verizon I ll be gone. This is not being bitter it's called paying for service, and expecting to get it every day in the areas that I normally have service rather than when they decide to fix it and then lie about it. A few of the major tech sites has made this same issue of service alert in their blogs, and to Sprint about this issue. Sprint has told them in mid September they are working on it , and yet tell me there is no know issue. When I tell them its all over the Sprint forums, and and tech sites they then say oh yeah we are working on it and don't know when this issue will be fixed. Not to mention that because they recognize there is a issue they even opted to let me out of my contract. Let me tell you if the Prime was on Verizon I'd be gone.
Please Big Red bring out the Prime so the Photon owners can have our forum back.
Does anyone know the fastest way to get a replacement phone through Asurion? I heard they're shipping ET4Gs now which is cool, I don't really care about that. I just need a new phone.
Last night I had my 3D in my gym shorts pocket and somehow when we were out in the woods it slipped outta my pants and now it's gone. Being that we were in the woods there was no cell service and so calling it won't do anything and I'm basically SOL on this phone. I've looked around the threads and noticed people were saying they got their phone sent to them the day after they lost it, so I went to Asurion's website to file a claim, following the Sprint tech's orders. The website asks for a photocopy of a valid ID, to fax such and such documents to this number, and to mail an affidavit to this other address etc etc. There's no way that this will all get processed tonight and I'll have a new phone come in tomorrow. I can't afford to wait the extra three or four days due to work and so I'm curious about the fastest way to get my replacement.
Yes, I have TEP and when I went into the store the CSR lady told me to go to www.phoneclaim.com, which is where it's looking like an infinite amount of paperwork and waiting times. Help?
empiire said:
Does anyone know the fastest way to get a replacement phone through Asurion? I heard they're shipping ET4Gs now which is cool, I don't really care about that. I just need a new phone.
Last night I had my 3D in my gym shorts pocket and somehow when we were out in the woods it slipped outta my pants and now it's gone. Being that we were in the woods there was no cell service and so calling it won't do anything and I'm basically SOL on this phone. I've looked around the threads and noticed people were saying they got their phone sent to them the day after they lost it, so I went to Asurion's website to file a claim, following the Sprint tech's orders. The website asks for a photocopy of a valid ID, to fax such and such documents to this number, and to mail an affidavit to this other address etc etc. There's no way that this will all get processed tonight and I'll have a new phone come in tomorrow. I can't afford to wait the extra three or four days due to work and so I'm curious about the fastest way to get my replacement.
Yes, I have TEP and when I went into the store the CSR lady told me to go to www.phoneclaim.com, which is where it's looking like an infinite amount of paperwork and waiting times. Help?
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Last time I had to send in an affidavit was like 3 years ago when I had to file a claim on my HTC Vogue, & it was a nightmare. I sent them, they told me they would get back to me, could take up to 24 hours, waited until then, called back, they told me that they never received them, even though I knew I sent them, had to send them again, once again they said they would call me, never did, I called them back 2 days later & they said they received them, & I asked well if y'all did then why didn't I receive a phone call, I said nevermind just process my claim, got my Touch Diamond the next morning, that was the only good thing that came out of that horrible experience, good luck man.
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Yep, so far this has been a much longer process than I anticipated. Not liking this. I wish I could just shell out the cash for the EVO 4G LTE.
I filed a claim thru them for my Epic 4G (before my Evo 3D) about a year ago for a bad speaker. It was pretty simple and straightforward. I did it online and received it the 2 days later (I filed the claim at night). This went back and forth because the phones they sent me were refurbished and just felt weird (sliding felt weird, vibrating felt weird, etc). I think they sent me 3-4 phones at least until I requested a new phone. Finally got the new one and it worked perfectly.
This all worked out for me because whenever you ship a phone in, you only send in the phone itself and the battery cover. The phones they send back all had new batteries, chargers, and 16gb SD cards. At the end of the ordeal, I had 5 new batteries, 5 new chargers, and 5 SD cards. :good:
Side note- are they offering the Epic Touch 4G as the comparable model to the Evo 3D now?
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I filed a claim thru them for my Epic 4G (before my Evo 3D) about a year ago for a bad speaker. It was pretty simple and straightforward. I did it online and received it the 2 days later (I filed the claim at night). This went back and forth because the phones they sent me were refurbished and just felt weird (sliding felt weird, vibrating felt weird, etc). I think they sent me 3-4 phones at least until I requested a new phone. Finally got the new one and it worked perfectly.
This all worked out for me because whenever you ship a phone in, you only send in the phone itself and the battery cover. The phones they send back all had new batteries, chargers, and 16gb SD cards. At the end of the ordeal, I had 5 new batteries, 5 new chargers, and 5 SD cards. :good:
Side note- are they offering the Epic Touch 4G as the comparable model to the Evo 3D now?
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Yes they are, that's how I got mines 2 weeks ago
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Yea not really much you can do. Once they approve it, it should ship to you within 24 hours. Last time I used them I filed the claim late Monday night and got the phone Wednesday morning. I'm not sure how long it will take to approve with losing the phone.
Waited all night and today to see if my claim was approved and it wasn't, took them almost the full 24 hours. I received an email stating
"Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for submitting your documents in reference to wireless number ending in xxxx. However, we were unable to process your photo ID. Please ensure the account holder’s photo ID is submitted and is legible."
I photocopied my driver's license in full size and submitted it, I don't get what else they want. Time to try my military ID and wait all over again. Such a pain.
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Waited all night and today to see if my claim was approved and it wasn't, took them almost the full 24 hours. I received an email stating
"Dear Valued Customer,
Thank you for submitting your documents in reference to wireless number ending in xxxx. However, we were unable to process your photo ID. Please ensure the account holder’s photo ID is submitted and is legible."
I photocopied my driver's license in full size and submitted it, I don't get what else they want. Time to try my military ID and wait all over again. Such a pain.
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It happen the same with my wife's phone(evo 3d), they told me that the copy was to dark, so what I did was taking a picture with my phone to the ID and affidavit save them to my computer and then e-mail them back to them thru phoneclaim.com, wait couple hours, call them back and they told me everything was ok and they send the new GSII Epic 4G .Sorry about my english.
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It happen the same with my wife's phone(evo 3d), they told me that the copy was to dark, so what I did was taking a picture with my phone to the ID and affidavit save them to my computer and then e-mail them back to them thru phoneclaim.com, wait couple hours, call them back and they told me everything was ok and they send the new GSII Epic 4G .Sorry about my english.
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Thanks dude! I had to do the same, now I'm waiting on my phone to come in Tuesday. I hope I don't have the full runaround with a messed up replacement however.
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Does anyone know the fastest way to get a replacement phone through Asurion? I heard they're shipping ET4Gs now which is cool, I don't really care about that. I just need a new phone.
Last night I had my 3D in my gym shorts pocket and somehow when we were out in the woods it slipped outta my pants and now it's gone. Being that we were in the woods there was no cell service and so calling it won't do anything and I'm basically SOL on this phone. I've looked around the threads and noticed people were saying they got their phone sent to them the day after they lost it, so I went to Asurion's website to file a claim, following the Sprint tech's orders. The website asks for a photocopy of a valid ID, to fax such and such documents to this number, and to mail an affidavit to this other address etc etc. There's no way that this will all get processed tonight and I'll have a new phone come in tomorrow. I can't afford to wait the extra three or four days due to work and so I'm curious about the fastest way to get my replacement.
Yes, I have TEP and when I went into the store the CSR lady told me to go to www.phoneclaim.com, which is where it's looking like an infinite amount of paperwork and waiting times. Help?
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Did you receive the phone yet, and if so, was it an ET4G or a 3D? Thanks.
Thought I would try and give back a little to the boards with a short rant about sprint, maybe someone will find a useful bit of info from my crazy month of wtf.
So I got an Evo LTE, and im a OG evo guy since the release day so I expected a great deal from the brand. Im a 10+year guy with sprint, 2 lines, equipment protection plan, yada yada... When I got the phone charged up for the first time I tried making a call right away and couldnt get a signal; same house my OG evo works ok in. I was sent an air rave tower right away, which is both a curse and a blessing. I have my LTE (stock) for about a week and I start getting random reboots, I wait a day to make sure there wasn't something I was overlooking. My conclusion was I'm having the common random reboot problem. In addition I was also getting about 5 hours max battery life, and intermittent wifi, and strange overheating of the metal part of the cover. I called sprint and asked them what I should do, and they set me up with an appointment at the local store.
I bought the phone on a Thursday, and tried to return it two Thursdays later 14 days from the date on my receipt, at which point I was told they would not give me a phone out of inventory because my "14 day" return period expired. I argued all the way up to the store manager, with whom I shared words with. I was left with one alternative which was a "45min" wait for a tech to tell me my phone is broken, and 3 days from then I would get a replacement mailed to that store where I would have to return and exchange my old device, which they rudely handed back to me and said I should keep so "they don't loose it." I was leaving on a plane the next day and there was a hurricane coming so I told them I will keep the phone a few more days and they should f-%# themselves. Their 14 day return period starts the day BEFORE you buy the phone. returning two weeks from the day is 15 days on Sprint clocks, even when the Sprint rep on the phone makes your appointment for you. needless to say I was asked to leave the store.
The hurricane (more like tropical storm) shows up and my flight gets canceled, and the intermittent power outages basically disabled my airrave tower, so I was going on my third week with no working phone. I finally give up on all the crap and got a hold of the retention department or whatever they are called. I told them that if I can't get a phone out of inventory at the store the same day, im pretty sure Verizon would. They coughed up a $50 service credit and told me I had to go through the process. I re-activated my og evo so I would have somewhat of a reliable situation.
I went back to a different sprint store this week with an appointment and got lectured by a flunky girl who quoted the company line and tried telling me I clearly had a bad battery, and software issues. After I received my lecture from her I assured her I read all about many different people with my specific problems and I know she does too so lets get down to business ( I had waited 45 min with on time arrival for the appointment ). She started poking around my account (after having me read her my pin number aloud in public) and told me I canceled my equipment protection on the LTE and there was nothing she could do. I invited her to think about that for a minute, and she realized the person on the sprint *2 call that activated my OG Evo decided to remove my equipment plan without authorization. then I get the manager again, and 30-40 min later they hashed it out and told me keep my LTE and comeback tuesday (today) to pick up my replacement. I should also note that my google voice number was completely disabled from my account, (confirmed after an hour of trying to renew it via phone and computer.)
I go in today at 8pm, wait 30 min before anyone would talk to me about why I was there and encounter a soft spoken kid who couldn't figure out what I was asking for. He disappears in the back for a while then comes out with a refurbished OG Evo! They ordered the wrong Darn phone! I was not really surprised by this in retrospect... I then sat there with the manager while he tried to resolve the problem. His solution? I was told the order ticket was canceled (lies, we all know the first girl ordered me an OG Evo even though she held my LTE in her hand and solicited that I rate her well in my followup survey call); He then deactivated my OG evo, reactivated my LTE so he could order one, then tried and failed to re-activate my OG evo to no avail. After 20 min, I told him i knew how to update my profile and to fix it after I get home.
Needless to say, my OG evo is still not activated (he went home leaving me with no phone for yet another day), and my current status is I'm waiting for my factory (s on) new-ish LTE which may or may not be in by friday afternoon. The whole time there was a drawer full of inventory LTE's that they explicitly would not give me despite my hassle. I invited them to let me out of my contract and take their lemon LTE back and was again told no.
At some point in there I tried a few new ROMS and TWRP. I got stuck in a softbrick after an update to one of them ( I believe it was the meanROM ICS v39) which may have been my fault, not sure so no insult is intended. I believe it was a TWRP problem a few people seem to have had I've read. I was able to break the softbrick by getting into to recovery
(vol down and power pressed for 20 seconds then release > then vol down + power for 2 seconds each, 3 times > re-lock > then running the RUU jewel back to stock. Tamper message goes away after that and I was left with ReLocked message. The phone still has ALL of the aforementioned problems (as it did with any ROM I tried). Sorry I can't be much more helpful to the dev's with my descriptions, but it probably wont serve any of you to troubleshoot based off my results with a defective unit. One last thing- I have a wifi issue since day one with the LTE, it takes about 5 seconds to connect to any website the first time, after that everything loads in a snap, but browsing brings back the 5 second problem about every 3rd link I click.
tl;dr
What you should learn:
-Sprint 14 day return policy is no questions asked replacement from inventory provided you return within 13 days.
-Activating a legacy will probably nuke your google voice integration as well as complicate your replacement order.
-my random reboot problem didn't start until after about 1 week and minimum changes to the phone ( I have been doing most of my android stuff with my Nexus 7 tab.)
-Airrave towers die from fluctuating power for a couple hours (like during a tropical storm). Towers in S. Fla. worked for my girls Metro PCS device the whole time, as well as my OG Evo (not connected to service at that point).
-Sprint will NOT send you a replacement phone via post any longer.
-You must return to a Corporate store to get a replacement, and you have to drive back over there once it comes in (make an appointment!)
-You can probably snag a $50 service credit if you threaten to cancel (I've read people getting more).
On an unrelated note:
-(class 10) 32 GB micro sd card on newegg goes for about $20 with shipping, they are $100 at the Sprint outlet.
-$50 otterbox cases are clunky and not my taste, my 'greatshield' case from the egg was < $10 and I like it.
-Screen protectors at sprint are 10x as much dough as online.
If anyone is interested I will try and update this post after I get my new phone (if I get a new phone.) Sprint has gone a long way down, but the competitors are no better so don't be insulted if your one of their good employees. My total estimated lost time over this debacle has been about 4 weeks without a new working phone I already paid for, and 8 hours of driving, and waiting in the store or on the phone. I got kicked out of the store for cursing out the manager who was talking to me like im an imbecilic drone like he is, other than that almost every one else was dumb but well mannered. He actually called me out when I told him I was flying out of town, and work 7 days a week. He actually told me that there are laws that I must be given days off ( insinuating I was lying ). This is pretty ironic considering im a lawyer in this state; I know more than a few of the lurkers here are lawyers too, i'm sure you understand the long hours). His condescension pushed me over the edge, and hes lucky he didn't meet the old me.
Thx to all the Devs on xda for your superb work.
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I really need a sig here::: would love to post thumbs of my legacy hardware, it would be pretty fun going back down memory lane. I honestly miss my treo(s)
yeah i had a snafu with sprint and thats when I gave them the middle finger. got out of my contract ETF free despite the fact i was 22 days in.
Well,after 3 weeks of phone calls sprint finally decided to send me a replacement evo,i mean its really bad when you have to go throught all this just to get a working phone,it shows that sprint has no interest in keeping customers happy,i came from verizon and they offer you a replacement without hassle,i dont know if its because verizon is doing way better financially or what,but they need to get their stuff together
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Damn and here I am never having a issue with Sprint at all. Never had a issue getting a replacement phone or with dropping calls.
Now I have a issue with best buy black tie plans and getting a phone but that's a story for another day.
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I think the stores in your area dropped the ball. Only in the case of ordering you the wrong phone and making you wait again while the correct one came in. The other things technically were Sprint policy.
My location would have worked with you on the point of ordering the wrong phone. That is of course assuming you were polite. Individuals who are condescending jerks don't get far. Not saying that's what you are or were.
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So from what I gathered from the wrong phone being ordered is that sprint has to order the device that is currently active on the account. That explains why u got an Og evo and not the lte. I'm a tech at sprint and that's how the system works.
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Full of thoughts...
Thanks for all of the sophisticated replies, glad to finally be posting here after a few years of lurking.
Something is very broken at Sprint and I suspect it has everything to do with a bunch of gone by night,
corporate exec's that fire people in hallways and use phrases like "corporate efficiency"...
I estimate my lifetime sprint spending at a modest $25,000. Its a severe kick to the gentleman region
that the moment my phone stopped working It was not replaced.
Honestly, I know how corporate employees feel, but the beauracratic, non-sense policies that ignore what I
need ( a working phone ) and sanction customers like me (my time and patients) are a disaster for many
companies. I was in sever need of my working phone connection, and I got screwed by sprint policy that
keeps them from loosing money from customers that can't be compared to me.
I'm a super nice guy most of the time, it was always served me well to try and give people what they want.
I may be highly educated and blessed for my financial situation (im not rich, but am thankful), however
I grew up in Detroit, a city with a 50% literacy rate, 25% highschool graduation rate, and crippling
unemployment (possibly as high as 30-40% un-adjusted). For lack of a better way of saying it, I talk like
a common man. I am also from a very violent place, so I have learned to respect people who I don't know
much about, but to strike back when they cross the line with me. So i probably sounded like a jerk bag getting
kicked out of a Sprint store, but believe me ... come visit south Florida sometime, you will honestly wonder
how some people here made it to adult-hood.
As a side note; if you work in customer service don't talk about customers in a different language. My girl and
I combined understand 6-7 languages (most fluent). We normally dress down, I like wearing jersies and sandals.
We both look 5-10 years younger than we are, and could easily be stereo-typed as no one important- in
fact we both like it that way. I've never asked Sprint for any special favors.
That being said, I have some valuable business advice for Sprint, and would go into MUCH more detail with
someone who was in charge at their higher levels: basically Sprint needs a way to tell the difference between
customers that are a money suck, and ones who are the bread and butter. Then that system needs to be easily
applied by the worker bees.
All that the store manager had to do on my first trip to sprint was to get me a working phone line and make it
easy for me to exchange, even if I had to come back. Its the MOST BASIC reason anyone walks in a sprint store,
and their relative inability to deal with a hardware issue without insulting me and wasting my time is a
malignant corporate problem, not an employee problem.
Make up your own minds about how I sound, it is what it is. If you work for Sprint I encourage you to
not take offense to my comments, Im really trying to use broad strokes with these points.
XDA members are so, so close to a new watershed in tele-com; It wont be long now untill none of us will be
willing to sign contracts and/or purchase hardware from our cellular providers. The rest of the world isn't
going to take to long to catch on either. With companies like metro pcs doing the kind of numbers they are,
Sprint as we now know it is going to be a relic.
My Sprint experiences have been positive 80% of the time, but when it goes bad it goes really bad.
@David: BestBuy is going to die a slow, painful corporate death before 2022 I surmise. Their problems
are very similar to sprint, sorry for your bad luck with them; I think I already know what you would say.
I'm confident people like on this forum will bring the industry back up to speed on their own terms. Its really
quite an amazing community, a real credit to humanity. I dont just say that, the existence of a dev community
like this is quite a unique human event (a sort of enlightenment.) There are not enought nice things to say about
how people here help others with something they genuinely do for fun.
Cell companies on a whole are intellectually dishonest with the people, and have adopted the economic principals
of companies that are the college examples of myopic, unethical, poorly directed, abusers. Much like the mortgage
industry, lack of consumer oriented management has created a culture of abuse and if my readers don't agree, they
can at least understand why I make the argument.
I have gotten pretty far away from what I started talking about, so Ill leave it here: invest in google, they are
sending a pretty clear message to sprint by rolling out google Fiber in Kansas...IMO
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redwings23 said:
Honestly, I know how corporate employees feel....
.... and I got screwed by sprint policy that
keeps them from loosing money from customers that can't be compared to me.
I'm a super nice guy most of the time...
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You must be a Republican. You've got to be right? Sure that holds no relevance but your post screams Republican. Lol.
No offense but this post is drenched in the very condescending tone that I was under the impression you communicated in. All customers should be viewed as equal. It's unfair to believe otherwise. I understand you feel as though your needs and requests hold priority over that of the majority but policies are policies and they are in place for a reason. There is no excuse it took so long for your replacement device to arrive, but let's be honest. You did have a functional phone in the meantime, right? Sprint should have taken responsibility for their mistake though. I definitely empathize with you on that point.
I'm sorry, the entitlement argument always rubs me the wrong way.
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Thought I would try and give back a little to the boards with a short rant about sprint, maybe someone will find a useful bit of info from my crazy month of wtf.
So I got an Evo LTE, and im a OG evo guy since the release day so I expected a great deal from the brand. Im a 10+year guy with sprint, 2 lines, equipment protection plan, yada yada... When I got the phone charged up for the first time I tried making a call right away and couldnt get a signal; same house my OG evo works ok in. I was sent an air rave tower right away, which is both a curse and a blessing. I have my LTE (stock) for about a week and I start getting random reboots, I wait a day to make sure there wasn't something I was overlooking. My conclusion was I'm having the common random reboot problem. In addition I was also getting about 5 hours max battery life, and intermittent wifi, and strange overheating of the metal part of the cover. I called sprint and asked them what I should do, and they set me up with an appointment at the local store.
I bought the phone on a Thursday, and tried to return it two Thursdays later 14 days from the date on my receipt, at which point I was told they would not give me a phone out of inventory because my "14 day" return period expired. I argued all the way up to the store manager, with whom I shared words with. I was left with one alternative which was a "45min" wait for a tech to tell me my phone is broken, and 3 days from then I would get a replacement mailed to that store where I would have to return and exchange my old device, which they rudely handed back to me and said I should keep so "they don't loose it." I was leaving on a plane the next day and there was a hurricane coming so I told them I will keep the phone a few more days and they should f-%# themselves. Their 14 day return period starts the day BEFORE you buy the phone. returning two weeks from the day is 15 days on Sprint clocks, even when the Sprint rep on the phone makes your appointment for you. needless to say I was asked to leave the store.
The hurricane (more like tropical storm) shows up and my flight gets canceled, and the intermittent power outages basically disabled my airrave tower, so I was going on my third week with no working phone. I finally give up on all the crap and got a hold of the retention department or whatever they are called. I told them that if I can't get a phone out of inventory at the store the same day, im pretty sure Verizon would. They coughed up a $50 service credit and told me I had to go through the process. I re-activated my og evo so I would have somewhat of a reliable situation.
I went back to a different sprint store this week with an appointment and got lectured by a flunky girl who quoted the company line and tried telling me I clearly had a bad battery, and software issues. After I received my lecture from her I assured her I read all about many different people with my specific problems and I know she does too so lets get down to business ( I had waited 45 min with on time arrival for the appointment ). She started poking around my account (after having me read her my pin number aloud in public) and told me I canceled my equipment protection on the LTE and there was nothing she could do. I invited her to think about that for a minute, and she realized the person on the sprint *2 call that activated my OG Evo decided to remove my equipment plan without authorization. then I get the manager again, and 30-40 min later they hashed it out and told me keep my LTE and comeback tuesday (today) to pick up my replacement. I should also note that my google voice number was completely disabled from my account, (confirmed after an hour of trying to renew it via phone and computer.)
I go in today at 8pm, wait 30 min before anyone would talk to me about why I was there and encounter a soft spoken kid who couldn't figure out what I was asking for. He disappears in the back for a while then comes out with a refurbished OG Evo! They ordered the wrong Darn phone! I was not really surprised by this in retrospect... I then sat there with the manager while he tried to resolve the problem. His solution? I was told the order ticket was canceled (lies, we all know the first girl ordered me an OG Evo even though she held my LTE in her hand and solicited that I rate her well in my followup survey call); He then deactivated my OG evo, reactivated my LTE so he could order one, then tried and failed to re-activate my OG evo to no avail. After 20 min, I told him i knew how to update my profile and to fix it after I get home.
Needless to say, my OG evo is still not activated (he went home leaving me with no phone for yet another day), and my current status is I'm waiting for my factory (s on) new-ish LTE which may or may not be in by friday afternoon. The whole time there was a drawer full of inventory LTE's that they explicitly would not give me despite my hassle. I invited them to let me out of my contract and take their lemon LTE back and was again told no.
At some point in there I tried a few new ROMS and TWRP. I got stuck in a softbrick after an update to one of them ( I believe it was the meanROM ICS v39) which may have been my fault, not sure so no insult is intended. I believe it was a TWRP problem a few people seem to have had I've read. I was able to break the softbrick by getting into to recovery
(vol down and power pressed for 20 seconds then release > then vol down + power for 2 seconds each, 3 times > re-lock > then running the RUU jewel back to stock. Tamper message goes away after that and I was left with ReLocked message. The phone still has ALL of the aforementioned problems (as it did with any ROM I tried). Sorry I can't be much more helpful to the dev's with my descriptions, but it probably wont serve any of you to troubleshoot based off my results with a defective unit. One last thing- I have a wifi issue since day one with the LTE, it takes about 5 seconds to connect to any website the first time, after that everything loads in a snap, but browsing brings back the 5 second problem about every 3rd link I click.
tl;dr
What you should learn:
-Sprint 14 day return policy is no questions asked replacement from inventory provided you return within 13 days.
-Activating a legacy will probably nuke your google voice integration as well as complicate your replacement order.
-my random reboot problem didn't start until after about 1 week and minimum changes to the phone ( I have been doing most of my android stuff with my Nexus 7 tab.)
-Airrave towers die from fluctuating power for a couple hours (like during a tropical storm). Towers in S. Fla. worked for my girls Metro PCS device the whole time, as well as my OG Evo (not connected to service at that point).
-Sprint will NOT send you a replacement phone via post any longer.
-You must return to a Corporate store to get a replacement, and you have to drive back over there once it comes in (make an appointment!)
-You can probably snag a $50 service credit if you threaten to cancel (I've read people getting more).
On an unrelated note:
-(class 10) 32 GB micro sd card on newegg goes for about $20 with shipping, they are $100 at the Sprint outlet.
-$50 otterbox cases are clunky and not my taste, my 'greatshield' case from the egg was < $10 and I like it.
-Screen protectors at sprint are 10x as much dough as online.
If anyone is interested I will try and update this post after I get my new phone (if I get a new phone.) Sprint has gone a long way down, but the competitors are no better so don't be insulted if your one of their good employees. My total estimated lost time over this debacle has been about 4 weeks without a new working phone I already paid for, and 8 hours of driving, and waiting in the store or on the phone. I got kicked out of the store for cursing out the manager who was talking to me like im an imbecilic drone like he is, other than that almost every one else was dumb but well mannered. He actually called me out when I told him I was flying out of town, and work 7 days a week. He actually told me that there are laws that I must be given days off ( insinuating I was lying ). This is pretty ironic considering im a lawyer in this state; I know more than a few of the lurkers here are lawyers too, i'm sure you understand the long hours). His condescension pushed me over the edge, and hes lucky he didn't meet the old me.
Thx to all the Devs on xda for your superb work.
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I really need a sig here::: would love to post thumbs of my legacy hardware, it would be pretty fun going back down memory lane. I honestly miss my treo(s)
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Nice tirade BTW. But, you did your math wrong. You bought it on thursday, that is day 1. Day14 would therefore be wednesday.
troll?
wolfclan68 said:
Nice tirade BTW. But, you did your math wrong. You bought it on thursday, that is day 1. Day14 would therefore be wednesday.
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Is this a troll?
Try again, the way the planet Earth works is that you turn one year old on the anniversary of your birth.
I returned to the store 13 days and 18 hours prior to my previous visit.
When considering some potential for illogical ambiguity such as yours,
Sprint should confer benefit of the doubt upon the disadvantaged party (me).
Sprint sold me a lemon, and a monthly plan for equipment guarantee, which makes me a disadvantaged party.
I was also given a receipt with terms of adhesion incorporated into it mentioning 14 days with no clarification of
the intent that the moment the transaction occurred a full day is presumed as having past.
Turns out the Florida Supreme Court agrees with my logic: the day the transaction takes place is not included.
For instance, If I serve you with a lawsuit today, you have 30 days (starting at zero) to respond.
If it had said "return the phone within 30 days of the purchase date", you might have yourself an argument.
"14 days" is a measurement of time that appeared on my contract.
Lets review:
-if I agree to give you one apple a day for 14 days starting on a Thursday you will get your last apple on Wednesday.
-if I agree to give you an apple in 14 days, you will get an apple two Thursdays from now.
Now lets have fun:
suppose today is Thursday
-If I tell you to meet me in Vegas in 7 days, you will expect me next thursday
-if i tell you meet me at my office before I go home in 8 hours, you can add 8 hours to the current time and rely on me leaving at the sum.
suppose its 5pm-
-If you ask me (on a Thursday) to meet you at your office within 336 hours I have until next Thursday at 5pm to comply.
336 hours = 14 days
Now try substituting '336 hours' for the words 'two weeks' or '14 days'; Rational minds work in mysterious ways.
sprint's stated policy
Now that we've covered the basics, dead over to sprint dot com /landings/returns/
within 14 days of activation (day 1 of the 14 days starts when the phone is activated)
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They even messed it up there!
Day 1 starts when the phone is activated?
That clearly means two different things...
Day one starts and ends when exactly?
Why should a customer have to guess, especially in the 24 hour world of web shopping?
Why not simply state the date which will be the last of the period? I know my library does.
I wonder if anyone else has pondered this problem, oh say 3 years ago on yahoo! answers...
http:/ /answers.yahoo. com/question/index?qid=20090929112655AAk7o1O
in the future you can bypass the whole store visit by calling them and stating the problem and they will drop ship you another device right then if within the time period. I've done it before a few times no problems at all.
sgt. slaughter said:
in the future you can bypass the whole store visit by calling them and stating the problem and they will drop ship you another device right then if within the time period. I've done it before a few times no problems at all.
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I tired, I know what you mean too. I had a treo drop dead after a few days and it was about as painless as a phone call and dealing with the return packaging. Unless I seriously missed something, I tried talking to many different people, supervisors, etc.
I called on the 10th day (or if your a sprint employee the 11th) and talked to a rep who told me there is no way for them to send me a phone AT ALL. I argued up to the supervisor, and was told that Sprint has changed its policies quite drastically since the iphone was brought over :facepalm:
Anyway, I believe the new policy is that you HAVE TO take your exchange back to a Sprint corporate store, and have exchanges made there within the 13 days time frame.
Another guy also informed me that if I did a straight up insurance claim on the phone I would have to pay a $200 deductible.
hopeless..... Im calling the store tonight, Im pondering how to stay calm. If the new phone is flawed in any more than minor way and not fixed with an inventory phone, im giving up and will be trying to get out of the ETF and finding a new carrier. Im sure I can get my $200 back out of the virgin hardware. I give them 3 to 1 odds of not screwing something else up.
redwings23 said:
I argued up to the supervisor, and was told that Sprint has changed its policies quite drastically since the iphone was brought over :facepalm:
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I know you probably don't think you are being condescending, but the fact that you had to argue on your call with customer service makes me think you come across as such.
And while you think Sprint should see you as better than the riff-raff, truth is, your individual account is no different than the millions of other individual Sprint customers. I also have issues with my local Sprint corporate store service techs, but I have nothing but positives for the business customer care department.
Quis89 said:
You must be a Republican. You've got to be right? Sure that holds no relevance but your post screams Republican. Lol.
No offense but this post is drenched in the very condescending tone that I was under the impression you communicated in. All customers should be viewed as equal. It's unfair to believe otherwise. I understand you feel as though your needs and requests hold priority over that of the majority but policies are policies and they are in place for a reason. There is no excuse it took so long for your replacement device to arrive, but let's be honest. You did have a functional phone in the meantime, right? Sprint should have taken responsibility for their mistake though. I definitely empathize with you on that point.
I'm sorry, the entitlement argument always rubs me the wrong way.
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sgt. slaughter said:
in the future you can bypass the whole store visit by calling them and stating the problem and they will drop ship you another device right then if within the time period. I've done it before a few times no problems at all.
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Yeah I called Sprint one morning because I had no data after updating PRL. Within 10 minutes they were ready to send me a new phone.
I was able to fix it by connecting to a WiFi connection to update and it was fine so I kept my phone. I thought they were more than helpful.
Naters
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bman3333 said:
I know you probably don't think you are being condescending, but the fact that you had to argue on your call with customer service makes me think you come across as such.
And while you think Sprint should see you as better than the riff-raff, truth is, your individual account is no different than the millions of other individual Sprint customers. I also have issues with my local Sprint corporate store service techs, but I have nothing but positives for the business customer care department.
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Well, I have some experience with Wisconsin's .. err wisconsinites?... wisconsonians?
Anyway, based on my experience you are making your point because I used the word 'argued'.
Arguing is not mutually exclusive of being a gentleman during the conflict.
I was very nice to the people, I just did not accept their answers. The first girl I talked to, although dim witted, told
me that she did her best and asked me if there was anything else I needed, I told her her answer was unacceptable
to me, and while although not her fault in any way, I would like to talk to the supervisor.
I am a mover, but my main advantage is I can easily relate to all sorts of people, I walk around smiling,
except when people break my stones. If you go out of your way to disrespect me I will shame you publicly.
I don't live in the midwest, but I grew up there. we probably share the same values / character traits.
Just realize that there are other cultures in different parts of the country, and S. Florida is a place where you
can pull over and help a lady change her tire (just because you're a good guy) and she will complain you are
taking to long to do it. (happened to a friend of mine). Down here its 'too good, too stupid". I'm not intimidated
by the Latin bravado, and have found most these boys down here don't know why its a bad Idea to try and
back a hockey player into a corner. The store manager talked trash about me in Spanish while I was standing right there
I knew what he was saying and was not wrong for reacting a certain way. I was definitely not the one being smug there.
Originally Posted by Quis89
You must be a Republican. You've got to be right? Sure that holds no relevance but your post screams Republican. Lol.
No offense but this post is drenched in the very condescending tone that I was under the impression you communicated in. All customers should be viewed as equal. It's unfair to believe otherwise. I understand you feel as though your needs and requests hold priority over that of the majority but policies are policies and they are in place for a reason. There is no excuse it took so long for your replacement device to arrive, but let's be honest. You did have a functional phone in the meantime, right? Sprint should have taken responsibility for their mistake though. I definitely empathize with you on that point.
I'm sorry, the entitlement argument always rubs me the wrong way.
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I'm oddly uncomfortable with discussing my political leanings here, but I will say I think for myself.
Anyway, there are many problems with your points-
I have been through this process with Sprint and exchanged one a few years back (a new Treo) the 'policies' were
much different then, and I expected the same pleasant results this time around. No Dice.
I was treated well when making a visit to buy a phone, and crapped on once the payment cleared.
Ill remind you that I called sprint within 10 days and they set my appointment up for me!
Nether the phone rep or the store told me there would be any problem until I showed up on day 14
and was forced to sit in the store for about 90 min. and not offered an inventory phone because of 'policy'.
I had the other line hooked up to my dying og evo, and its pretty bad. Ive been using my nexus 7 and
google voice to make calls, since no one could get my google number to ring through to the og.
The policies would have been fine if 3-4 people i met along the way hadn't dropped the ball.
reassuring me on the phone then not coming through after I drive to the store is unacceptable.
You use the word entitlement in a somewhat laughable way-
Why should customers all be treated equally, there are many that need way more than me; picture
my grandmother sitting there asking what an app is. Once a guy goes through the process like I did
There is no reason to consider my problems as the same priority as others. Facts and circumstances
should define policies, not bureaucratic nonsense that ignores the needs of one paying customer.
Sprint has lacked integrity in this respect because I paid fair and square and didn't get what others get. -That's my fault somehow?
That brings me to my second point about 'entitlement' ... I paid and got a bad device, my theory of
entitlement is based on the money I paid. When you pay for a movie ticket you are then entitled to
go in and watch that movie. I ran around for hours based on bad advice and policies. I never asked for
something other customers don't get. All I asked for is what the average customer gets: I pay money
and they give a working phone. If Sprint is going to operate on a buyer beware ethos, judge them
not me.
I understand my words read as condescending, but im not here to make myself sound pleasant.
I tried to lay out the relevant facts in a tone that reflects feelings after a month of not having my new toy, or a working line half that time.
Put yourself in my shoes, and tell yourself this because of bad karma or something.
I wrote all of this in hopes someone will find it personally helpful, I've lurked here for years and wanted to give something useful back to the community.
I was on this board for several hours trying to break my soft-brick and read at least three unanswered threads that were related to my problem.
I figured it was time to be a noob and give a few people a heads up. Im sure a few of you read all this and were surprised about something.
NaterTots said:
Yeah I called Sprint one morning because I had no data after updating PRL. Within 10 minutes they were ready to send me a new phone.
I was able to fix it by connecting to a WiFi connection to update and it was fine so I kept my phone. I thought they were more than helpful.
Naters
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I was in a similar situation years ago. They refused to send me a phone this time, I asked each person why I was treated differently last time and at lease one Sprint phone manager thinks its because "sprint stopped doing that after the Iphone [got ported over.]"
How long ago was your hassle free exchange, i think mine was 2004~ish.