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Did a brief search here looking to understand how to operate overclocking kernals, but find it/me relatively limited.
I have installed and ran Glitch v11 and v12, played around with HL to LL, and made adjustments to undervoltage utilizing Pimp My CPU and Voltage Control. I have also ran Tweak (though not really a kernal).
My question is this,
am I overclocking when I reduce voltage on Mhz's above 1,000?
If not, could someone point me to, or explain how to achieve overclocking on our phones, and
which kernel and governor do you prefer for overclocking?
As an ammended note, I've installed Tegrak Overclock, but am still looking for a user guide...
Thank you for your time.
If you're the running the glitch kernel...use voltage control, not tegrak overclock...over clocking is when you turn the CPU speed above its normal speed..anything over 1GHz.
under volting is when you turn down the voltage frequency to achieve better battery life...
Any one clock speed may perform more or less stable with different under volting unfortunately all of our phones will vary in performance so one setting that works for one may not be the best for another so experimentation is really the best option...this applies for schedulers and governors as well.
I personally overclock as high as I can until it freezes or crashes..then I go 1 setting down...I then try undervolting different steps observing the stability of my phone...when I find what I like,I run it for a few days, then if its still nice and stable I will apply on boot.
The different leakage values are affected by the hardware quality of the chips in our phones which also vary..I start with high and see how high I can overclock..note the setting, then try medium..see how high I can overclock and so on...just as a reference..high leakage creates the most heat and is the least efficient, but works for most phones, while low leakage is the most efficient and generates the least heat and will work with not as many phones
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efan450 said:
If you're the running the glitch kernel...use voltage control, not tegrak overclock...over clocking is when you turn the CPU speed above its normal speed..anything over 1GHz.
under volting is when you turn down the voltage frequency to achieve better battery life...
Any one clock speed may perform more or less stable with different under volting unfortunately all of our phones will vary in performance so one setting that works for one may not be the best for another so experimentation is really the best option...this applies for schedulers and governors as well.
I personally overclock as high as I can until it freezes or crashes..then I go 1 setting down...I then try undervolting different steps observing the stability of my phone...when I find what I like,I run it for a few days, then if its still nice and stable I will apply on boot.
The different leakage values are affected by the hardware quality of the chips in our phones which also vary..I start with high and see how high I can overclock..note the setting, then try medium..see how high I can overclock and so on...just as a reference..high leakage creates the most heat and is the least efficient, but works for most phones, while low leakage is the most efficient and generates the least heat and will work with not as many phones
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Efan450,
Thanks.
How do you over-clock using Glitch and Voltage Control? I see that Voltage Control goes up to 1,300Mhz, but it's at 0 above 1,000Mhz and can be dropped down to -200mV. Is overclocking just the process of decreasing that voltage on Mhz's above 1,000Mhz's
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Efan450,
Thanks.
How do you over-clock using Glitch and Voltage Control? I see that Voltage Control goes up to 1,300Mhz, but it's at 0 above 1,000Mhz and can be dropped down to -200mV. Is overclocking just the process of decreasing that voltage on Mhz's above 1,000Mhz's
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come on man.. Clock speed (mhz) and undervolting are 2 completely different things.. Forget the voltage.. No changing the voltage is NOT overclocking.. You overclock by changing your maximum clock above 1000mhz which is stock for this phone.. Try long pressing 1200mhz and selecting set as max.. Now your overclocked to 1200mhz..
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No decreasing the voltage is simply undervolting whether it's over 1000 or under. The idea behind undervolting is increasing battery life, but you can't necessarily go and set each level to the maximum undervolt (200) you half to see what works. Increasing the processor speed is overclocking, stock speed is 1000 so anything over that is over clocked. As far as how far as how far you can over clock depends mostly on 2 things, 1. the kernel your using, ( for example if it shows 1300 in the list that means thats all that specific kernel supports) 2. It varys greatly between phones. For example with glitch you can overclock to 1700 but very few phones can run that high for longer than a few minutes!
Hope that helps.
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Yes.. And the fact you say your running glitch and your max oc is only 1300 my guess is you broke your kernel with tegrak overclocks module.. Delete tegrak and stop downloading overclock apps. or any other root app unless you know fully the consequences first.. If after deleting tegrak, and rebooting, if your voltage control don't show a maximum clock of 1700 mhz, then you will need to reflash your glitch kernel
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Neh4pres,
Yeah, I kind of feel like a heel. For some reason, I had a brain fart when looking in the 'General' section of Voltage Control. I see now how to overclock.
Regarding ost #6:
When I flashed MIUI 1.9.16, I did not install any kernel; so it was kind of a half truth in that while running 1.9.9 I did have Glitch installd. Nevertheless, I still have Voltage Control installed.
mkropf,
I see that now, and thought as such earlier, but needed some clarification.
Having so many issues with Glitch and 1.9.9, I'm hesitant to install Glitch, but interested to see if it runs better on the newer MIUI...
Thank you two for answering my newbie questions.
FJRSport said:
Neh4pres,
Yeah, I kind of feel like a heel. For some reason, I had a brain fart when looking in the 'General' section of Voltage Control. I see now how to overclock.
Regarding ost #6:
When I flashed MIUI 1.9.16, I did not install any kernel; so it was kind of a half truth in that while running 1.9.9 I did have Glitch installd. Nevertheless, I still have Voltage Control installed.
mkropf,
I see that now, and thought as such earlier, but needed some clarification.
Having so many issues with Glitch and 1.9.9, I'm hesitant to install Glitch, but interested to see if it runs better on the newer MIUI...
Thank you two for answering my newbie questions.
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There are no issues with glitch.. It is what I run.. Very smooth.. Just have to give your phone time to adjust and build cache
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Landscape
Re-installed Glitch v12 ML last night and have it overclocked @ 1,200 with no under-voltage...yet. Want to see any adverse effects.
I started at 1,300 and it locked up then rebooted within 5 minutes.
A concern I have is that now my phone will not Auto Rotate to Landscape even though I have Auto-Rotate 'on' in Settings.
I've scoured Sixstrings Glitch thread to no avail. Though it's not needed anymore, I also flashed the cleaning script just to see if it would make a difference.
Is there a work around or fix for this?
Make sure you're on the latest 9/15 version of the kernel. Anything before that will kill all of your phone's sensors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
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Make sure you're on the latest 9/15 version of the kernel. Anything before that will kill all of your phone's sensors.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1252871
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That was it. I had re-installed the older Glitch v12 that was already on my PC. Deleted them and downloaded the newer Glitch kernels to experiment with.
Thanks!
FJRSport said:
Re-installed Glitch v12 ML last night and have it overclocked @ 1,200 with no under-voltage...yet. Want to see any adverse effects.
I started at 1,300 and it locked up then rebooted within 5 minutes.
A concern I have is that now my phone will not Auto Rotate to Landscape even though I have Auto-Rotate 'on' in Settings.
I've scoured Sixstrings Glitch thread to no avail. Though it's not needed anymore, I also flashed the cleaning script just to see if it would make a difference.
Is there a work around or fix for this?
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under volting helps stability.. I use -50 for everything above 1ghz.. Your phone may vary
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OC & UV settings
neh4pres said:
under volting helps stability.. I use -50 for everything above 1ghz.. Your phone may vary
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Yeah, locking and rebooting was while using the older version of Glitch v12. With the 9/15 dated Glitch I'm at 1300 now with the following settings:
Deadline / ondemand
200 - 1300
1300 -25
1200 -25
1000 -50
800 -50
400 -75
200 -75
1.2GHz is the best I say if you want good battery with a higher frequency. 1.4GHz is the best for anyone who uses their phone alot. Samsung did add 1.2GHz overclock in their source.
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Back to running MIUI without Glitch.
Things that make you go, Hmmm?
For some reason, every time I accessed the keyboard for Google+, it hung, then froze, and 3 of the four times rebooted. The fourth time I needed to remove the battery to reboot. So I re-flashed MIUI 1.9.16 (effectively removing Glitch) and have 0 problems.
Bummer, I like Glitch too.
I'm in the same boat, however they redone the latest glitch merge and posted it last night so I'm thinking we'll be back in good times
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mkropf said:
I'm in the same boat, however they redone the latest glitch merge and posted it last night so I'm thinking we'll be back in good times
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are you using JT's 9/12 kernel?
if so...did you overclock it?
i'm on jt's 9/12 with miui 1.9.16 and wondering if I can / should overclock and undervolt it. I'm just trying to maximize battery life at this point.
Try the new glitch posted last night, it is fantastic.
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Try the new glitch posted last night, it is fantastic.
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what voltages are you running?
also for anyone..
is there any way to directly compare two kernels? like a test or something?
I can't decide between JT's 9/12 and the new glitch..
worshipNtribute said:
what voltages are you running?
also for anyone..
is there any way to directly compare two kernels? like a test or something?
I can't decide between JT's 9/12 and the new glitch..
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You wouldn't want to use my voltages, I put everything way lower than anybody else does or recommends and am just lucky that it is stable for me but it causes the sleep of death for anyone else.
For comparison, just run JT's kernel for a bit and then flash glitch and try it... once you play with OC/UV and voodoo color you won't be able to go back. (you'll be able to but you'd have to be insane.)
Anyone have a ultimate setting for saving battery life in SETCPU for the Motorola Photon?
Bump.. Just bought it myself will read more into it... But if someone has a quick down and dirty on settings for the photon would be appreciated... I did do some initial settings but felt the screen was getting too hot so I aborted the settings I applied.
I stopped using setcpu back when i had an HTC hero (2009). You really don't need it imo lol. Wanna save battery, use an undervolt kernel or turn off mobile data when you're not using it. You could also turn off auto background data sync.
Will look into it, just seemed that the percentage based rules looked attractive inthe program.. Always nice to be able to apply less than rules, greater than etc..
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Don't think an app can control our cpu. I've tried setting frequencies only to have them ignored, pretty sure some programs will have the under volt ignored.
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Set cpu undervolting my photon def works.. I did notice (not recently though) that under a lot of stress while undervolted itll kick up to a higher voltage though I havnt seen it do that for a long time now..
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So there is or is not good reason to use setcpu on the photon?
tcf84 said:
So there is or is not good reason to use setcpu on the photon?
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Its all based on the personal preference man. If you feel the need to use it go ahead. Myself, I don't think its necessary. I mean it's good for setting profiles in different situations (screen on/off,charging etc). Most of the time the kernels baked in settings are good enough but some people combine a custom kernel with setcpu for maximum control over CPU. Setcpu is absolutely pointless unless you're running a custom kernel. Plus if you use cyanogen roms it will allow you to set CPU values within the rom. Again, these are just my thoughts on it man.
Well I'm in the process of trying to get CM9 working, so I guess I wouldn't need it.
Thanks for the clarification.
Can I ask, how did you UV your cpu ? is it somewhere within the setcpu, or it comes from the kernel ? I really don't understand about ocing/uving an android phone, thx.
El-Nath said:
Can I ask, how did you UV your cpu ? is it somewhere within the setcpu, or it comes from the kernel ? I really don't understand about ocing/uving an android phone, thx.
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Custom kernels will allow you to over clock or undervolt. Set CPU just allows you to set clock speed upon boot along with custom profiles. If you install a kernel that allows undervolting it should have the custom values baked in. Again, use set CPU if you please. Joker has a set of custom kernels both uv/oc. I'm using his 1.3 oc kernel for CM7 at the moment but I'm only clocked at 1.2 just testing out. So far its amazing.
tcf84 said:
Well I'm in the process of trying to get CM9 working, so I guess I wouldn't need it.
Thanks for the clarification.
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How did this work out for you? Where's the install? Desperate to give it a try.
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How did this work out for you? Where's the install? Desperate to give it a try.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413349
Doesn't voltage control also work? When I was using my Epic4g, i preferred voltage control over setcpu since it does both: OC and UV.
However, I'd agree with kennypow3rs that i dont think any of it is necesary with the Photon. It's quite fast already and the battery life is amazing. I hacked my Epic 4g like crazy, through 10 ROMs, OC/UV, Eclair through GB, and I have to say, it was a waste of my time. I am now extremely happy to have the Photon, stock and rooted.
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Doesn't voltage control also work? When I was using my Epic4g, i preferred voltage control over setcpu since it does both: OC and UV.
However, I'd agree with kennypow3rs that i dont think any of it is necesary with the Photon. It's quite fast already and the battery life is amazing. I hacked my Epic 4g like crazy, through 10 ROMs, OC/UV, Eclair through GB, and I have to say, it was a waste of my time. I am now extremely happy to have the Photon, stock and rooted.
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I've been where you've been, done what you've done, and am now at where you're at and I couldn't be happier myself.
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1413349
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thanks man!
I prefer to use this instead of the ones built in to cm7/9, personal preference i guess.
But the only real reason i use it is for the profiles feature. Which i set my phone to screen off to max at 216mhz(wish i could auto disable while using Pandora), then to any time below 100% battery to max 750mhz (with jokers kernel that disables the 2nd core) and then finely to run full speed when its plugged in.
kennypow3rs said:
Custom kernels will allow you to over clock or undervolt. Set CPU just allows you to set clock speed upon boot along with custom profiles. If you install a kernel that allows undervolting it should have the custom values baked in. Again, use set CPU if you please. Joker has a set of custom kernels both uv/oc. I'm using his 1.3 oc kernel for CM7 at the moment but I'm only clocked at 1.2 just testing out. So far its amazing.
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where can I find those custom value ? and how I set them ?
and while on it, I want to ask since I'm using setCPU to undervolt, what is the normal voltage of 1.2 cpu clock ? I'm noob at this please bear with me, thx
Funny, I have been using SetCPU until Kennypow3rs said something. Although it worked, I have ROM Toolbox Pro. I figured out yesterday, It does all that performance crap and more. Matter fact, I got 15 hours out of my battery (Granted, 7 of those hours I was sleep!)
Lol.
Sent from my HTC EVO View 4G Honeycomb Tablet, runing on the Now Network, (or my AT&T Home Router, lol).
So I installed a CM10 port (found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803557). Other than being a little buggy, it is surprisingly smooth and full-featured. Getting about 4k Quadrant Standard score. I decided to play w/ the Performance settings a bit and despite selecting 1600Mhz as top clock-speed, it refuses to go above 1300Mhz. Does anyone know if this is a common issue with custom ROMs or specific to Jelly Bean ports? And of course, I would love a work around or fix. I suspect it has something to do with losing access to Asus' own performance settings, like maybe its stuck in power saver or balanced and can't go to Performance mode. Any help or advice is appreciated!
No one else is experiencing an issue like this? Should I try to reflash?
yes i guess it-s normal
ka1z0ku said:
No one else is experiencing an issue like this? Should I try to reflash?
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hi,
well yes im also using cm10 rom &(no cherry picks one) and it does not go above 1300. even though i wouldnt go mad about it, responsiveness has never been so great, and there are almost no hard tasks for this rom. I have set min to 475 and max on 1300 with interactive gov.
I can say that despite not being at his top performance i-m happy with it and i realized it while playing the latest batman game. it would lag a lot on ics while its pretty fluid now on jb with this settings.
it looks our prime needed this jelly beans. i cant wait till its stable.
tried ez overclock?
ka1z0ku said:
So I installed a CM10 port (found http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1803557). Other than being a little buggy, it is surprisingly smooth and full-featured. Getting about 4k Quadrant Standard score. I decided to play w/ the Performance settings a bit and despite selecting 1600Mhz as top clock-speed, it refuses to go above 1300Mhz. Does anyone know if this is a common issue with custom ROMs or specific to Jelly Bean ports? And of course, I would love a work around or fix. I suspect it has something to do with losing access to Asus' own performance settings, like maybe its stuck in power saver or balanced and can't go to Performance mode. Any help or advice is appreciated!
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Maybe you wanna try ex overclock app, you find it in the development section...
What settings are best for optimal performance and battery life? I don't have any experience with this, and I don't want to screw anything up. I just got tired of my games always lagging, but I don't want a battery drainer. I dont believe I have a custom ROM. Thanks for any and all help.
NLangan said:
What settings are best for optimal performance and battery life? I don't have any experience with this, and I don't want to screw anything up. I just got tired of my games always lagging, but I don't want a battery drainer. I dont believe I have a custom ROM. Thanks for any and all help.
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SetCPU probably won't work very well unless you flash a custom KERNEL. You can mess around with it if you like and you'll probably won't mess things up. One thing I discovered before custom kernels came out is that you can enable the second core by enabling profiles in setcpu. YOu can see that in the menu option of setcpu for "cpu". That may help you in your games. If you set max at 1500 and min 192 initially, you'll see that next time you start setcpu, the max and min are both at 1500. I used another app like cpu monitor widget to see what was happening and low and behold the cpu was scaling 'properly', so I left the setting in setcpu at 1500 and 1500.
In the end...it doesn't work quite the way it was designed for and even with custom kernels we're seeing some issues with it, but mess with it, you may find that enabling the 2nd core will produce less laggy games. You'll have to judge the affect on battery.
topgun1953 said:
SetCPU probably won't work very well unless you flash a custom KERNEL. You can mess around with it if you like and you'll probably won't mess things up. One thing I discovered before custom kernels came out is that you can enable the second core by enabling profiles in setcpu. YOu can see that in the menu option of setcpu for "cpu". That may help you in your games. If you set max at 1500 and min 192 initially, you'll see that next time you start setcpu, the max and min are both at 1500. I used another app like cpu monitor widget to see what was happening and low and behold the cpu was scaling 'properly', so I left the setting in setcpu at 1500 and 1500.
In the end...it doesn't work quite the way it was designed for and even with custom kernels we're seeing some issues with it, but mess with it, you may find that enabling the 2nd core will produce less laggy games. You'll have to judge the affect on battery.
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I appreciate the help! [Thanked]
Hello, could anyone please tell me what some good settings on set cpu , for a rooted T-Mobile Alcatel one touch fierce would be ,
Thanks...
ANDROID LOVER 79 said:
Hello, could anyone please tell me what some good settings on set cpu , for a rooted T-Mobile Alcatel one touch fierce would be ,
Thanks...
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I don't have the same phone as you but Intellidemand / Zen (governor / schedular) seem to be a winning combination for performance vs battery life but it will probably vary from ROM to ROM and supposes the kernel you've installed supports it.
Perhaps you could say what you're hoping to achieve? Max battery life (slow the CPU down) vs performance.
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Mr_JMM said:
I don't have the same phone as you but Intellidemand / Zen (governor / schedular) seem to be a winning combination for performance vs battery life but it will probably vary from ROM to ROM and supposes the kernel you've installed supports it.
Perhaps you could say what you're hoping to achieve? Max battery life (slow the CPU down) vs performance.
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Oh, sorry, I'm hoping to max battery life and maybe speed up the phones performance, (if possible) I got the paid app from the market even though we don't have the same phone but if you could share your settings I guess its better than the factory settings
Once again thank you, and sorry I forgot to put what I was hoping to achieve in my original post
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Oh, sorry, I'm hoping to max battery life and maybe speed up the phones performance, (if possible) I got the paid app from the market even though we don't have the same phone but if you could share your settings I guess its better than the factory settings
Once again thank you, and sorry I forgot to put what I was hoping to achieve in my original post
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You have to choose. Best performance or best battery. If you want the best compromise then like I said, Intellidemand and zen if your kernel supports them.
I'm not sharing settings as we have different phones and different Kernels so it'd be pointless.
I used to have lots of profiles for various times of day, screen on, screen off etc but now I pretty have two. One for general (min and max are whatever the kernel allows) and a profile for low battery where it max's the CPU at 30-50% whatever is max and changes to the conservative governor.
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ANDROID LOVER 79 said:
Oh, sorry, I'm hoping to max battery life and maybe speed up the phones performance, (if possible) I got the paid app from the market even though we don't have the same phone but if you could share your settings I guess its better than the factory settings
Once again thank you, and sorry I forgot to put what I was hoping to achieve in my original post
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Ok see didn't know that, so I would choose performance over battery life then I am new to this and don't want to brick my phone I bricked a rooted android trying to change a boot animation using root explorer so just trying to be careful, also if you could help me with the "MHz" settings it would be great to the choices are 497, 754 ,988 & 1209 that would be great to
I have all the good root apps titanium backup pro root explorer pro and a lot others, but lol I just don't know how to use them yet...any knowledge on a boot animation logo change would be appreciated to I learned a little after I bricked ny phone I know that I didn't put it in the right folder but every post I read people say it bricked their phone so maybe I should staw away from it until I am a little bit more experienced idk.
But for cpu performance would be what I would choose
Thanks again..