ok, since we bombarded them over the source releases, I think in all decentcy we should return to say thanks. It's easy to picket and raise hell, so we should at least go clap our hands, they could of easily given us the big finger.
What is it i'm thanking them for again?
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ok, since we bombarded them over the source releases, I think in all decentcy we should return to say thanks. It's easy to picket and raise hell, so we should at least go clap our hands, they could of easily given us the big finger.
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At first I read this and agreed 100%. Then as I gave it more thought I realized that would be like a teacher thanking their student for doing their homework or you thanking your mechanic for fixing your car...that's what they are supposed to do...legally required to do (lets not start that whole 'GPL wiggle room' meme again)...and they did it late.
I'm glad they did, I'm not sure if the facebook assault had anything to do with it, but I'm not sure they deserve a thank you for doing what they are required to do.
Just checked and my phone still says no updates available.
Done!
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Just checked and my phone still says no updates available.
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Apparently you don't know what 'Source' is...
This doesn't mean they have an update for you to download, it means that they released a copy of their kernel.
They only release the source because they are required too not because we asked them. If that was the case well you know the story.
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Apparently you don't know what 'Source' is...
This doesn't mean they have an update for you to download, it means that they released a copy of their kernel.
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Apparently not, na just didn't read all the words.. still
Not only that, they released the wrong kernel source. They f'ed up
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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I build ROMs and Skins and can't even get people to hit a simple "Thanks" button so you don't have to preach to me about it. Not that you are your just making a statement. I have no problem giving thanks, but I never *****ed about the source in the first place. I only *****ed about the other thing.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Back down there sparky...I believe I phrased my reply to indicate that I was indeed on the fence with the idea. I'm not laboring over my decision but I want to give it thought. The kernel source is subject to the rules of the GPL. They paid nothing for it and only have to abide by the rules of the license. One of those rules is that the source code must be made available (within a certain amount of time? I keep hearing 30 days but I'm not so sure).
I guess I just used poor analogies. You don't thank someone for not robbing your house...do you?
That said, in the name of fairness (and human decency...towards a corporation that has already demonstrated a desire to screw us as much as we will allow?) I'm still considering my stance.
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The simple fact is, they didn't have to do anything. Do you honestly believe we have rights as consumers? I mean really? Do I feel I owed them a thank you?, no. Is it a decent thing to do after the fact?,yes. They gave it to us sooner rather then later, or even at all for that matter. Human decentcy is a funny thing lately in this country, but whatever.
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Lol! I totally thank my mechanic when he fixes my car. You thank people when they do things that you appreciate regardless of whether or not its something you're paying them to do. Its Just plain good taste. But yeah, I agree with the OP. Whenever anyone opens their source its a good tying. It allows endeavors like the XDA community to keep on deving.
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I build ROMs and Skins and can't even get people to hit a simple "Thanks" button so you don't have to preach to me about it. Not that you are your just making a statement. I have no problem giving thanks, but I never *****ed about the source in the first place. I only *****ed about the other thing.
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I appreciate all the work that is done here, and I'm sorry that I cant contribute to that work. I wasn't calling out everybody here, most people didnt hit their page, but those of us that did, I felt a simple thanks would be good in the long term future. You know, maybe the evo3, instead of them being like **** those guys that spammed us last year and never came back, they may be like, hey lets get them the goods again, all the thanks looked good on our fb page. Social networking has given us power, much more than the old 800 number, simply because all complaints and gratitudes are in the public view of the world. Plus as a species thats struggling, again, simple decentcy is refreshing, and whats wrong with that?
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Back down there sparky...I believe I phrased my reply to indicate that I was indeed on the fence with the idea. I'm not laboring over my decision but I want to give it thought. The kernel source is subject to the rules of the GPL. They paid nothing for it and only have to abide by the rules of the license. One of those rules is that the source code must be made available (within a certain amount of time? I keep hearing 30 days but I'm not so sure).
I guess I just used poor analogies. You don't thank someone for not robbing your house...do you?
That said, in the name of fairness (and human decency...towards a corporation that has already demonstrated a desire to screw us as much as we will allow?) I'm still considering my stance.
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Read above post.
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I appreciate all the work that is done here, and I'm sorry that I cant contribute to that work. I wasn't calling out everybody here, most people didnt hit their page, but those of us that did, I felt a simple thanks would be good in the long term future. You know, maybe the evo3, instead of them being like **** those guys that spammed us last year and never came back, they may be like, hey lets get them the goods again, all the thanks looked good on our fb page. Social networking has given us power, much more than the old 800 number, simply because all complaints and gratitudes are in the public view of the world. Plus as a species thats struggling, again, simple decentcy is refreshing, and whats wrong with that?
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When I first read the post I didn't read all the words like I said. I missed the part about the source code.
People just aren't as appreciative as they used to be. Thats what I think mostly America has become. I do get enough thanks for what I do and thats why I keep doing it. I know people like it even though they don't always show it.
I actually talked to HTC this morning and the first words out of my mouth were that I love their phones and what they do.
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That's pretty compelling...in the short run. In the long run I would hope that you are proven correct and it's certainly worth a shot. If they don't learn from this, well, we can always attack them again.
I think I just might give them a thanks. All of that positive PR would surely help convince them to do the same in the future.
Well I stopped by their Facebook to say thanks as soon as they posted it. I hit them up in a polite way every day asking for it, so I felt that I wanted to thank them for doing it in a timely matter. Other companies and phones take much longer. Now, if I still had my OG EVO, I would not have thanked them for releasing today. I mean when did the GB update for the OG EVO come out? And they are just releasing it today? This is my opinion, not that anyone asked for it.
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People are following package trucks and if no one answers and they leave it they will steal your package.
Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
Atleast I got your post count up by one. I just heard it on the news just thought Id let people know that are getting it shipped.
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Atleast I got your post count up by one. I just heard it on the news just thought Id let people know that are getting it shipped.
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What, on Faux News? I usually enjoy the odd thread, but this one truly is useless.
I also hear that if we have a nuclear holocaust it might delay the Prime launch.
O Noes!!
*runs to cancel pre-order.
These comments are totally useless too
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Said Mr. Pot to Mr. Kettle. You should have put the thread title in all caps. That would have made it even more inflamatory and likely to get people to read it. And there's no more risk of packages left without signature being stolen today then before you saw a news story. Unless of course this post and the news story put the idea in people who otherwise wouldn't have thought about's heads.
Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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I'm with this guy. Is there a mayan sub clause in my warranty? Cause if the worlds ending i better be able to blog thru it
yeah I didnt get the whole story ive been trying to find it but cant find it.
or UPS can be dicks like they were to me today
i waited all day for a few packages and he didn't even come by.. but labeled all the shipments as "first attempt made" cause he wanted to go home and skip me
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or UPS can be dicks like they were to me today
i waited all day for a few packages and he didn't even come by.. but labeled all the shipments as "first attempt made" cause he wanted to go home and skip me
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Or when they delivered $1500 printer in original box, with make, model, picture, etc on the box. They didn't feel like lifting it up 1 flight of stairs and left it by the door or a private house. And this is not in suburbia. It was basically sitting on a Brooklyn street.
Actually this is how my wifes Black Friday transformer was left and it has worried me since then. Since when was signature not required he norm.
Hey all if you don't mind giving me your address and estimated ship date I'll come by your place and "watch" for the package for you!!!!
He he he he
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Dude when the world ends in 2012 who is going to cover my warranty?
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Oh damn. I forgot the world was ending next year. I may save this Prime money for heroin and escorts.
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Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
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i don't know why everyone has this idea like every thread should be should be something special.
i for one am glad to know this, i doubt it will happen to mine, but ill be extra careful.
blaziner, no offense but you are definitely the worst offender when it comes to creating pointless threads...lol. I will give you credit though, some of them have been oddly, and I mean very oddly, well received. You created the 'your hype level' thread, no? That was maybe the most pointless thread I think that I have ever seen created in all of my many many years on the Internet and yes I was an adult when the Internet first became popular (barely). That said people seemed to like it and wanted to come by and say how hyped they were on a scale from 1 to 10. How can you argue with that? Carry on my pointless friend.
I should qualify this post with the fact that I have also seen some constructive posts from you as well. Maybe not threads but at least a few posts. And I don't mean this post as an insult in any way either. I know it can sound that way sometimes on these internets.
Pretty sure the world ending would void the warranty, as that is an "Act of God" and specifically excluded from coverage.
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Hooray more pointless scaremongering threads! Because this is totally constructive and worth pointing out! Thank you for your invaluable contribution to the community.
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You're thread crapping and you have the nerve to talk about pointless threads and invaluable contributions? This coming from a member with 39 posts in a one year span? Perhaps you should familiarize yourself with the rules and regs before you decide to post replies like this. XDA no likey thread crappers.
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OK guys listen well...
Remember this post?
Apparently not... as you all seem to keep acting like little kids.
I saw yet another locked thread when I logged on today.
As it stands I don't care who is or is not lying, who is or is not a troll, and or who is or is not right. I don't, I simply don't...
If you have issues with someone, just ignore them or stay away from their posts, twitter feeds or websites as the case may be. It would be so much better for us all that way.
Now I don't mind a bit of off topic discussion and threads, but all I am seeing lately is bashing, arguing and trolling.
Let me lay a little something on you... Nobody is owed anything. No Dev owes you ROMs, root, or anything else. Vice versa, no user owes a Dev anything for their work. (paid market apps excluded) The rooting community is a hobby based entity. We work on respect and a mutual love of the platform. Donations are voluntary but a good idea. (It makes Devs feel appreciated)
Another thing... Drama... It kills the community. It runs off users and Devs alike. It creates a hostile environment that no one wants to deal with. When a device looses Devs it can be a death nail to the further development for that device, and when we don't even have a perm root exploit, loosing top Devs is the worst scenario imaginable.
It is getting so bad that even I am getting aggravated, and I could stay calm even with someone punching me in the face...
It is so bad I am giving serious consideration to jumping ship to the Nexus... An (in my opinion) inferior device to the Rezound, just to get away from most of the drama.
Come on people, get your f***ing acts together, and your heads out of your a**es.
Sorry if I come off as a jerk, but something needs to be said/done about all this.
Internet drama...dun dun dun
And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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And how about no more Nexus threads too?
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Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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There's always going to be drama no matter what you do and what you say. As much as we would like everyone to grow the F up, that's just not going to happen. Internet forum trolls are here to stay, and frankly this thread is probably giving them what they want... More attention! Sure you can jump ship and go to the Nexus, but I'm pretty damn positive there will be drama there too. Best thing you can do is just ignore the ****, nothing you say or do is going to change what's happening on this forum.
Threads will be closed, another will be opened and get trolled, and probably closed again. I'm just going to sit back and enjoy the ride till S-off happens. I also have alot of popcorn ready!
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
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Eh... its a valid topic to compare phones... but it can get out of hand.
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Agreed, but there's plenty of threads already, no need for more (and by now pretty much all the comparisons have been made and all one needs to do is read). Especially when they're just for the drama, and there have certainly been those here.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
Something irked me today... I am just getting sick of the he said she said crap, and other nonsense.
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I understand how you feel man. It's just that some people think they're entitled to everything and they want it now. If they don't get it right away then they start having hissy fits. They think they're big and bad and on the top of the world sitting behind their keyboards. Just makes me wonder how they make it through daily life. Best thing really is just to ignore them, don't feed the trolls and eventually they will go away. Sure they'll continue to post and hope to bait a person into a response, but if everyone keeps at it they'll go elsewhere.
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I just remember when it wasn't like this, and I miss those days.
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I think once s-off is achieved things will calm down and the trolls will find somewhere else to bother people. That's how it was with the EVO 3D forum.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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I was thinking of doing the same thing as the OP, jumping ship to the Nexus. But then I remembered, wait a minute self, the Nexus sucks.
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Cosiggity
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blestsol said:
Cosiggity
Sent from a Rezound, crappie camera included.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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LOL, yea that cracks me up everytime I see it (and hardly seems necessary).
The Rezound may not have the worlds best camera, but it's not half bad for a camera phone....
~John
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You must really dislike the Rezounds camera to include it in your sig.
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Hehehe, I had been thinking the same thing seeing his/her sig in other threads. Not to go OT, but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
As for the trolls...bashers...dramateers.. and those well known HUTA's (Head Up Their A**es) ... It will never end. They love fuel, and all people like you and me do is refill the tank. Sure, there were much better times when everything was nicer and most of the posts were filled with posituve and/or constructive feedback. This is the same way all over the internet. But there is no sense in blowing up and attacking those who cause the trouble because it does absolutely no goid at all. I know... I've done this myself and it gets me nowhere. The best thing you can do is to always try and encourage positive feedback. Not everyone will like every commend, post or idea... Not everyone will agree on one thing. Best things to not be doing is bragging too much about something or attacking and/or making fun of something someonevow.s...eg.. like their phone.. or hating on something they said. Im no mod in here, but it's just straight out common sense. Some people just wantvto get a rise out of others and those others just can't resist torpedoing that trolls sorry arse with some smarta** comment to get them going even mote.... Admit it, many of us have done it. Some things will never change... And this, is one of them. Thats what mods are for. But everyone here can make their life a little easier by not contributing to the source... / .... Fuel .
Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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Pro-tip: You don't need to read drama filled threads. You don't need to read any thread actually. You have the choice to come to the forum, check for any thread titles indicating root has been achieved, and if you don't see them then either go away, or read only threads that have titles which interest you. Plain and simple.
I don't know why everyone on the internet feels that every single god damn thread in every forum MUST adhere to their own views of how threads should progress. If people want to *****/troll/libel/lie/cry/etc., then who are you to tell them not to? If you don't like it, DON'T READ IT!!! Plus, it's a PHONE. How do you not have anything else in your life going on that makes forums on phones completely irritate you to the point where you feel the need to tell people to not express their opinion? I'm assuming you're a Marine, which means you have probably sacrificed your life at some point to give US citizens the right to ***** and moan to their hearts desire. But that doesn't give you the right to tell people how to act.
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I've shared this same idea before, about people just not reading it and keeping it moving. But I do know sometimes you just can't help it.
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nm... was trying to add some levity but decided it's best to leave it alone.
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but the camera on this phone is soooo much better than my last htc phone. It's NOT a DSLR, but it certainly does a hella good job on image quality for a phone camera. I'm not conplaining..lol .
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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LOL-I'm not complaining either.
I am a pro-photographer & own four Canon DSLR's which are awesome, but the Rezound camera certainly comes in handy when it's all I have with me.
To put in your sig that it's crappy just seems kinda stupid to me, it's better than 99% of the other camera phones......
~John
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Great opinion there, you think it's stupid but I've used the epic touch camera and im bitter after being spoiled. Kinda stupid to not see someone has a different experience. Sorry my signature seems to be getting under your skin with your rezound pride.
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Let's clean this up a bit, shall we?
I get the impression sometimes that we (speaking about everybody here in the 3D forums recently) make this place sort of "unfriendly" with sarcasm and troll posts, rudeness when people post in the wrong section, create duplicate threads, so on and so forth...
First of all, I will say that I am fully aware of my own contribution to this, lol. BUT... i was thinking earlier about when I started out over on SDX and how friendly and eager people were to help me when I was new to the android/Linux scene (although I still had somewhat of a basic understanding of it because of my knowledge of windows, Linux and especially android was a new world to me and much of the knowledge I have picked up since then was simply because people were so willing to offer help and their own knowledge - regardless of "noob" questions (when I simply could have used a search button).
Yeah, for whatever reason you just want to punch people through the computer sometimes when they post in the wrong section or make "hAlp my phonez is teh broken" threads that can easily be fixed with some searching around. But I think we should try to be a little bit more of a friendly and tolerant (and therefore tolerable... ironically) of the things that go on around here.
Anyways, just some dumb ass rant post. But I thought I would share this thought because I feel the action of it could be a positive thing around here.
oouuut.
So, I will be nicer to people. Let's all try this, shall we?
except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
Cool story bro
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Cool story bro
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I think that's exact reason why the op posted this thread,childish stuff like that.
If I helped, give thanks, if you please.
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Cool story bro
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lol... touchè
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l000000000l as a youngster I used to be the lookout ;-)
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Would be a change of pace. A nice one. Maybe this should be some sort of pledge to help teh n00bz.
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Yes,I'm one of the sorry trolls you are talking about
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In the Netherlands we always say: there no such thing as a stupid question but only stupid answers.
You hit the nail right ok the head. I joined
XDA almost a year ago and everyone was very helpful. I learned a lot. Now its a lot of people b***ing about stupid things like a devs work or a question they they have decided is "dumb".
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If I've helped you in any way... hit the "Thanks" button.
I think a lot of it has to do with the fact that since there's been a flood of Android phones hitting the market over the last year and a half or so, there's also a flood of people who come with it. They buy a new Android device, hear about 'rooting' and jump on here. Not everyone knows the meaning of respect, and they expect things to just be handed to them. There's definitely more idiots on here than before, but also just more people overall. No matter where you go, the more people around, the more idiots there will be. It's unfortunate indeed.
I try to be helpful, but it's definitely aggravating when someone just flat out doesn't read a damn thing, and asks a question that's clearly typed in the OP. When I joined, I didn't know ANYTHING about rooting, ROMs, etc. but I read a few things and learned.
There are a few forums that I use that have a n00b section with zero intolerance for the replies to questions in said sub-forum, maybe that would be nice, then we can segregate the n00bs and flame more well-known users for asking stupid things. Lol
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I used to get on here several times a day, reading these forums, but it took me a long time to actually register because the few immature people that start a fight in the thread made it look irritating. Like whoever posted in the recent ICS thread about how the OP was information from another thread, even though the OP was several pages long.
Who cares? It's something else to read. That's why most of us are here, for some form of entertainment.
n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
Terepin said:
n00bs != newbies
Newbies don't know things and after TRYING to figure it out themselves, they have ended up, seeking answers for uncommon situations. This is OK.
n00bs, on the other hand, don't know ****, they don't give a crap about learning and expecting from others to give all the answers on a gold plate without moving a finger on their foot. This is not OK.
The sooner pseudomoralistic idiots realize this, the sooner will be this place be as it used to be before. If not, I'll continue to troll n00bs for my own amusement and you can kiss my shiny ass.
'Nuff said.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
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That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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except for freeza.... i am still trolling you.... on a regular basis. lulz
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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Every time I see someone say "cool story bro" I add them to my ignore list. Just added another..
That said XDA has gone steadily down hill. I remember when I first came here I was actually afraid to post. Now XDA is so addicted to member counts that they let just about anything go. Had a guy yesterday asking how to hack Amazon this is the crowd being attracted now. Its a shame and like many others i'm looking for the next XDA. Problems is the asses will just following. BTW I have no idea what the OP posted because he is already on my ignore list as it the poster below him now.
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Yes, the "an answer is easily found by a very fast google search but I'm too lazy to do it or just expect you tell me" crowd is the problem I agree. Even if they are not the majority, when I see a new thread or question that seems like an easy find, I get really mad because I had to take the time to learn and search on my own. I've been on here since 2006 and I guess because of all the new androids out there you get people who are not technologically inclined trying to do technicological things.
However, I agree it has gotten out of control, and the mods are unwilling or unable to do anything about the newbs or the a%*holes that are attacking devs when they know nothing about any of this development stuff.
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^^^ most important part of your OP...
:sidenote: your like the XDA ghandi >>
"be the change"
/trollio
EDIT: I applied to be a mod (again) - and I'm all about reducing the jackassery around here. If accepted, I'll do what I can
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/pulls out soap box and stands on it
first off you wouldnt believe the amount of buttholes and douchebags mods put up with on a daily basis. most often we only get called in when there is a problem, so everyone wants to talk about how things have changed and how it sucks putting up with the idiots. put on mod glasses, i would 75% of the people on here, instead of just reporting a troll or a n00b posting in the wrong spot or a spammer, they in turn flame, troll, spam the person that just needs reporting. so that means, we then have to clean everything back up, figure out who to get rid of and sort the whole situation. its not fun. if you want to see things change, be the change. report posts, dont flame the idiots, dont feed the trolls, just move on with your day. we arent afraid to boot people, we arent about "registration numbers", we are about supporting developers. but we cant be in every thread at once or all the time. if you see something out of place, report it, everyone has that ability. but most of us just return the favor of flaming people.
i became a mod, because i believed that a difference could be made. i reported posts, before i was a mod, i was helpful to people, i tried to teach n00bs the correct way of doing things instead of treating them like trash. yes there is an over abundance of users now due to the influx of android devices, most of the new users dont know anything, and they wont ever learn anything if we all are douchebags to them.
if XDA is becoming something that it wasnt in the past, its because we as a user base are allowing it to be so. be a respectful user, help people out, if someone is doing something they arent supposed to report them. serisously, how are we supposed to know whats going on if we arent notified?
/steps off soap box
I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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I think a large problem too is it really does feel like the mods play favorites. I don't want to bring up the whole Chad.Goodman thing, and how he was reported and pulled in a matter of hours, yet, when he reported other non-GPL complying dev's nothing was done to them. Or my own situation, having important threads detailing hostile actions from one particular user being deleted without any reply or communication from a mod as to why. That user having no repercussion for his actions.. It's really feels that it's not an equal ground forum a lot of the time.
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i agree that it may feel like that sometimes, and sometimes mods need to do a better job in communicating. users will not however see everything that goes on behind the scenes. if we infract someone we dont broadcast it, its really no one else's business if i infract you, thats why other users cant see other peoples infractions. if you dont like the way a mod handled something, ask him (or her) how/why they did what they did. dont be hostile about it, just pose a question. i know we are more than willing to talk to users about their issues, and come to the best possible resolve.
Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23.
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Seriously. I just jaw a post on thriveforums.org and it worked. I just downloaded the app, opened the app, went to register, created my account and a pop up came up confirming my lifetime upgrade. Spread the word. It's from Feb 23-Mar23
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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Good call. Just tried uploading nrg rom and exceeded... Fml
I guess dropbox keeps me for now
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that has been around since november but it is useless. they do not let you upload files that are more than 100mb.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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How do you know since you just set up your membership a couple days ago?
Wait... nevermind. I just searched your ip address. I know who you are. You're supposed to be banned from the forums for trolling. I guess we'll just have to extend it. Here's some advice, don't play the moderators for fools.
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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wow seriously now, only xda memberships know about android offers? funny mod! and since you are such a smartass, 1: the ban counts for the email address not for the whole ip address. 2: there is no 100% guarantee the same ip address is being used by the same person, maybe multiple users using same computer 3: I can always use a software to change my ip address and you my dear moderator can do nothing is just an xda membership, there are more important things in life so stop acting like I am going to miss a lot even if you extend the ban p.s I have 2 other memberships, wanna bet you can't find them "mister love2bprivatedetector.com"?
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That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
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That's fine. We'll ban those too. We love a challenge Felinos11.
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^ what a boss.
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^ what a boss.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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You can change a trolls name but you can't change the way he looks.
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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So we all know who he is, and yes he is a troll with nothing better to do (obviously has no life outside of xda), but he did have a point and his remark did actually help this time (believe it or not). I did not know about the upload limit, and although Feline11 was trying to be a troll, he actually helped.
I know Binary and Whisky know how I feel about Feline11, and I still say ban his IP address and subsequent IPs that will certainly follow. Anyone that will create multiple email accounts just to troll forums has serious mental issues that should seek professional attention asap... Especially at his young age.
Thanks for calling a spade a spade Binary. Sounds like a reincarnation of another "...Jr." troll. They don't die, they multiply lol
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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I don't care if he helped. He's been a member for a long time and he went very far out of his way to make us think that he was a new member. He even asked a very noobish question something of the lines of "If I take the sdcard out of my phone will it break recovery?" and we both know that he knows better than that. We need honest members that intend to help eachother. Not members that are going to deceive others and turn against them like a stray dog. He was given a punishment for his action and he should be mature enough to face it and not to go around it. We don't just ban people just because we feel like it because if that was the case we would have totally different forum with totallly different moderators. We try to be fair to the members at all times. Is it too much to ask that we get treated with the respect that we deserve rather than trying to insult our intelligence? His ip address was banned and barred from registration as well as his e-mail addresses but I have a gut feeling that we'll be seeing him again. But the good thing is that we have other means to detect those type of accounts other than ip addresses and all we need to do is look. And to look all we need to do is suspect that something isn't right. Obviously in this case something didn't fit right with me and that's why I took a closer look thus unveiling his real identity. He may not have been trolling but it would have only been a matter of time until he did. Remember that the problem isn't his username, it's his attitude and that is nearly impossible for him to change otherwise he would have done so by now.
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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cant agree with this anymore. he would randomly help out, then troll, help, then troll, ask questions, and then troll for getting flammed..
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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Right and that's the kind of habits that we look for. That kind of suspicious behavior or an unusual post like what popped up earlier when it drew my suspicion is what causes us to have a closer look. It's really easy for us to look for duplicate accounts. Now it IS possible that a new account can be opened up with another members previously used ip address but even in that situation is pretty rare. But what's even more rare is when he's banned on the 21st and a new account is opened on the 23rd and both members post in the same forum. I think the odds of that happening would be like being attacked by a great white shark on a Detroit metro bus that's actually running on time. Neither will ever happen and for both to happen at the same time... there's just no way. Yet he's surprised that I caught it? Naive little fool.
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haha you'd think he would be a little more smart about doing it at least.. if i was a troll id go to starbucks and use their wifi or something lmao, good thing im not though.
Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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Wasn't trying to defend him... Believe me. I took my only infraction ever over his trolling and went many rounds with him the other night when he was banned. I'm glad he's gone and appreciate the Mods like Binary and Whisky for keeping this thread clean.
On another note, since this is useless with it being 100mb file size dealy, should we maybe just close the thread?
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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You're the OP so I'll gladly close it if you like.
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I feel powerful... What shall I do with the newly found power I have as op... Muahahah... Ok close it down
Thanks
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Without a desktop sync software I find box really useless so I prefer to use the 5GB dropbox instead. If Box could get with the times I would use it but I guess no money in it for them to offer it free.
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Me too
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Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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Felinos11 was a complete ignoramus. I have been here a short while and been rounds with the kid. I was amazed at how many other people he got into it with.
You can tell he is just an immature kid.
Thanks for ridding us of him, till his next alter ego pops up.
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Trust me, it was my pleasure!
Closing the tread now per OP request.
Who is the culprit here? Someone must have said something. Man up and apologize to him immediately. He's one of the best themers/ modders on this site and it will be so sad without him. Please everyone, show your support for this great guy who has been making mods for us since day one. Show some damn appreciation and thank him. Send a donation if you can.
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im not sure what his deal is? i haven't seen anybody post anything but thanks to him for his work. the last thing this community needs is to loose talented devs. maybe this has something to do with lack of donations perhaps?
Who is Mike D??
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Who is Mike D??
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check the theme section.
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Who is Mike D??
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Only one of the best modders this site had. Aside from good ole andybones too of course. It's a sad shame that Mike won't be modding for us. A damn shame
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my theory is that it's not an individual or a few but the community. everyone was ranting and raving and showing impatience for his upcoming themes. when the time came to release he was underwhelmed from the thanks/donations afterwards. I could be wrong but that's my guess
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my theory is that it's not an individual or a few but the community. everyone was ranting and raving and showing impatience for his upcoming themes. when the time came to release he was underwhelmed from the thanks/donations afterwards. I could be wrong but that's my guess
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id agree with this but there's nothing wrong about people being anxious to get his new theme either.
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id agree with this but there's nothing wrong about people being anxious to get his new theme either.
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I agree but it must have been the end results. just hope it's not about appreciation. he already started to purge files and links. that's a possible bad sign to encourage others to look elsewhere. sure hope not because the rez is a great device
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I agree but it must have been the end results. just hope it's not about appreciation. he already started to purge files and links. that's a possible bad sign to encourage others to look elsewhere. sure hope not because the rez is a great device
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as ive said we didn't need to loose any devs. xda is still pretty busy for the rezound. look at rootzwiki, no one posts there.
Well that sucks.
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I think he specifically said in his mods thread that it had nothing to do with lack of thanks/appreciation.
Mike D's themes were legit. Seeing what he was able to do has pushed me into learning how to theme roms
IM sure he will be back one day...
He is just working more hours... If he got more donations for his work I am sure he could cut back on his hours.
But no one ever donates to the guy!
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IM sure he will be back one day...
He is just working more hours... If he got more donations for his work I am sure he could cut back on his hours.
But no one ever donates to the guy!
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Well donations are optional plus times are tough. I know ive thanked the guy plenty. Hope he comes back one day.
perhaps I'll start doing small things in his place. I'm not good enough to do total themes but I can certainly decompile/recompile,edit png colors and switch font color hex codes in the xmls
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Well donations are optional plus times are tough. I know ive thanked the guy plenty. Hope he comes back one day.
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Sure, they are optional, but people start getting demanding and the money helps put up with the idiots. I think the enjoyment starts to go away.
I always donate to those whose work I consistently use. But then I also buy apps.
There's a reason why devs want to dev for iphone even though there are more android phones out there. Android users tend to be cheapskates who would rather steal an app than pay for it.
cant blame the community . this one is the same as others. i know someone who was working on bamf rezound in the beginning said hed stop cause of the "community" and he did . we're not THAT bad, but quitting cause of that is kinda lame- though i do understand in away .
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Sure, they are optional, but people start getting demanding and the money helps put up with the idiots. I think the enjoyment starts to go away.
I always donate to those whose work I consistently use.
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Yes you do, thank you!
And yes the second part of that statement tends to be true. Users forget that Dev's are people with real lives and real responsibilities and that Android Dev'ing, for the most, of us is just a hobby like collecting Stamps or baseball cards. They seem to think that because we make cool things we are some giant company with the resources of many when in fact we are only one person trying to bring some fun to your device. But anyways.. You know that already and I am grateful for your support!
I don't know about the iPhone thing though. I couldn't deal with it if I had to. I love Android. Never really liked Apple. Hahaha
-Scott
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Yes you do, thank you!
And yes the second part of that statement tends to be true. Users forget that Dev's are people with real lives and real responsibilities and that Android Dev'ing, for the most, of us is just a hobby like collecting Stamps or baseball cards. They seem to think that because we make cool things we are some giant company with the resources of many when in fact we are only one person trying to bring some fun to your device. But anyways.. You know that already and I am grateful for your support!
I don't know about the iPhone thing though. I couldn't deal with it if I had to. I love Android. Never really liked Apple. Hahaha
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honestly, I would still be on wp7 if verizon had one with lte and a bigger screen. Really enjoyed my hd7. Spent more time using my phone. Tinkering with it is fun, but didn't miss it jumping from winmo to wp7. Used to build my own roms back then, but haven't had the time to really dive into what makes android tick.
Ok I'll fess up. It was silverxbv2 who did it.
Hahaha
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