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An Amazon/Woot! G-tablet arrived yesterday, and I'm struggling to learn it as I have NO smart-phone (nor, obv., Android) experience. (I've 44 years of mostly UNIX computers, and I've been networking since dARPAnet days.)
From the start, I was able to CONNECT to my house Wireless router (and get an assigned IP#) BUT nothing that "should"[?] connect to the Internet did: the browser couldn't pull up Google, BBC.com, etc. and the email s/w didn't connect to my gmail acct.
I didn't let that bother me as the Big Goal was to load GingerBread, which I did: Android 2.3.3 (Kernel Version 2.6.32.36-aosp a.k.a. "G_Harmony_Gingerbreadv2.3.3"). Also loaded CWM and GAPPS. 'Took a long time to get that installation process right, but everything seems stable EXCEPT I still CONNECT to my wireless router but cannot get any program to interact with the Internet.
Any suggestions as to HOW to debug or fix this?
Android remains a puzzle to me; I don't grasp its organization and management:
I haven't figured out how to delete a Music file yet! (Once 'did -something- that momentarily displayed a garbage can, but haven't been able to reproduce that.)
I have a 32GB SD card which the Tablet acknowledges, but I haven't ever "seen" it over the USB connection (to Windows 7), not have I seen any Android tools to display/access it. Is it mounted on a UNIX-like directory? Or is it Invisible as an entity?
The #$%^'ing beast disconnected during my download of several books-on-CD (rip'd to MP3's) and now says the SC card is messed up... so I guess I have to erase it and download the data again... hoping it won't disconnect once more.
'Guess it's time to order a book on Android... sigh. If there are any online Primers you'd recommend, I'd appreciate a link!
Thanks, John
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Edit: PS -- Erasing the SD card didn't fix the problem: I still get "an error was encountered on your SD card" when I go to the Music player. 'Guess that means using CWM to format something. More sighs....
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Edit2: PPS -- Yet re-booting restored the Music files... however Windows 7 continues to think the tablet's "drive" needs an error scan/repair. O grief....
Do you have a file explorer installed? That wold easily let you delete and move files.
Your micro SD will not be detected by your computer. You will need to mount your device to the PC and load files onto internal SD then move them to the micro SD with a file explorer. Or you can get a usb SD reader and load them directly.
Do you have wpa or any other encryption running on your wifi? Different roms have trouble with certain protections. I suggest setting your router to accept only preset mac addresses you approve.
I might have disconnected with screen timeout. Set screen to never time out under settings.
Does your rom indicate internal mem as emmc or SD? Some are SD for internal and SD 2 for micro SD.
Mantara said:
Do you have a file explorer installed? That wold easily let you delete and move files.
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I knew FE apps existed, but presumed there was SOME way to delete w/o them. And... since the beast won't communicate to the internet I have to find another way to load apps (via my W7 computer). [I've used Win7 to delete tablet files over the USB port -- gack... that's a nasty method.]
Your micro SD will not be detected by your computer. You will need to mount your device to the PC and load files onto internal SD then move them to the micro SD with a file explorer. Or you can get a suspect SD reader and load them directly.
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I have a PC-attached SDHC reader and earlier looked at the SD card that way. However, I'm not sure what I can DO with data I load onto the SD card since I haven't been able to understand in what ways Android makes use of that SD card. [For example: if I placed a root-dir directory of Music on the card, would Android merge that with the internal Music files?]
Do you have wpa or any other encryption running on your wifi?
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I have some encryption, perhaps WPA, but the Android wouldn't declare that it has a Connection if it hadn't properly matched the security methods on the router. [I vaguely recall seeing the tablet flash a box with the protocol details it found the router using.]
Very frustrating. I expected a more intuitive structure to Android, and fewer problems. I bought this for a trip I'm taking on Friday, but it looks like I won't have email and browsing on that trip.
Most roms have FE apps installed but I'm guessing the barebones GB doesn't.
Have you tried opening your wifi so no password is needed just to see if its a tab flaw in the wifi antenna?
Music players vary. Stock, no. Power AMP yes. With power amp and some free apps you can set the directorys they search for music in.
GB is nice but it is still very fresh and the kinks are still getting workred out in the version for Gtab. There still isn't drivers to enable hardware acceleration. I would seriously recommend vegan b5.1.1 or the clemsyn/calculin rom. Both are super stable and very streamlined. And both are fully tested by thousands of other moders. Worth a shot.
Router?
I have some encryption, perhaps WPA, but the Android wouldn't declare that it has a Connection if it hadn't properly matched the security methods on the router. [I vaguely recall seeing the tablet flash a box with the protocol details it found the router using.]
The fact it is connecting to the router leads me to believe you may have a configuration issue on the router. Do you have the router locked to Mac address filtering or restrictions on access? If that is the case, your tab could connect to the router but not the net.
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I might have disconnected with screen timeout. Set screen to never time out under settings.
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I found where while-on-outlet timeouts could be turned off on the Initial Android (that came on the tablet); I have been unable to find anything which allows more than a 30 minute timeout period on GingerBread.
Does your rom indicate internal mem as emmc or SD? Some are SD for internal and SD 2 for micro SD.
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I'm unsure where you're asking me to find this information: Within a PLUS/POwerOn boot (CWM)? or in the [lame] Storage information under Settings?
greymane98 said:
The fact it is connecting to the router leads me to believe you may have a configuration issue on the router. Do you have the router locked to Mac address filtering or restrictions on access? If that is the case, your tab could connect to the router but not the net.
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I've set nothing fancy on the router beyond basic encryption. I often have friends' computers in here for repairs, and those aren't blocked. Still, opening the router up is an interesting test for manana. Friday a.m. I have to be up and off to the airport around 4am, so I shouldn't be floundering around with this just now!
You wouldn't be able to tell without a file explorer. Just realized that. There has been debate about standard android (emmc/sd) and tablet android (sd/sd2) drive labeling. Didn't know what the newest GB used for labeling drives. It has caused lots of confusion and lead many to accidently format their SD (internal mem ) with cwm.
BasiliskPie said:
I've set nothing fancy on the router beyond basic encryption. I often have friends' computers in here for repairs, and those aren't blocked. Still, opening the router up is an interesting test for manana. Friday a.m. I have to be up and off to the airport around 4am, so I shouldn't be floundering around with this just now!
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Just to get it running for your trip you could at least try a froyo rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884103
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Most roms have FE apps installed but I'm guessing the barebones GB doesn't.
Have you tried opening your wifi so no password is needed just to see if its a tab flaw in the wifi antenna?
Music players vary. Stock, no. Power AMP yes. With power amp and some free apps you can set the directorys they search for music in.
GB is nice but it is still very fresh and the kinks are still getting workred out in the version for Gtab. There still isn't drivers to enable hardware acceleration. I would seriously recommend vegan b5.1.1 or the clemsyn/calculin rom. Both are super stable and very streamlined. And both are fully tested by thousands of other moders. Worth a shot.
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I'm worn out, and have to crash now. Those are good points, and I'll pursue them ASAP.
But I'll pursue snoring just now!
Thanks to all!
Ahhh, a new day... and yesterday's advice to follow up on... and a solution found!
Pilot Error: Controlled Flight Into Terrain [CFIT]
I went to turn off the WPA [or whaddeva] security on the wireless router... and couldn't! Couldn't open the router at the usual 192.168.1.1.
'Did an IPCONFIG and WHOA! Definitely non-standard IP addresses for a home Router/Gateway/etc. Very much like... oh Dang... like Modem-delivered addresses.
Now I recall: just before a recent trip I helped a friend in BudaPest set up a Vulkano link to his mother's ComCast TV service... and to test that it worked from my house I had to directly wire my computer onto the Modem -- Vulkano wouldn't work through my router w/o unknown configuration changes. And I never reconnected the router, nor turned it off, so my tablet was connecting to a disconnected router.
With the router re-cabled, everything works... almost: now the tablet works, but I can't get a stable connection through the WIRED connection to my main computer... the one which was working 15 minutes ago before I re-inserted the router!!! I'm NOT asking for help on that: a few more reboots or a cable change and it will resume working, but for now I've switched to wireless on the computer. [Do't even suggest the most-obvious! I rebooted the modem & switch several times, and the computer as well. But I've now removed Vulkano s/w so maybe that will get the WIRED connection back up after the next reboot.]
Sigh... mea cukpa, mea culpa, mea maxima culpa.
Now, back to packing for Colorado! Thanks again!
Able to connect to Wifi, But no Internet access
Hey guys. I am new to the forum, and I am sorry if this has been solved, but I have benn having a hell of a time trying to figure this out. I just gor my G-tab, and with some help from my friend, we rooted it, installed CW, and installed Vegan Ginger Edition. I have another friend who is running the Vegan 5.1, and he has the same issue. We are in a building that has a preinstalled wireless system. We can see the repeaters, and connect to them, but we are unable to connect to the internet. The system requires a login. Another friend has a Sprint HTC phone and he is unable to get the internet either. Any suggestions of ideas?
Does anyone know if there are any Apps or ROMS that allow access to SD card on the Galaxy Tab 10.1?
Im using DropBox at the moment but it takes hours to upload music/films.
I know Kies is an option, but it is not registering my device due to the ROM I am running.
Any help will be appreciates.
If you are running Windows then load the Samsung USB driver and it will mount as a USB drive. I believe for that to work you need debugging off (I could have this backwards though).
The driver is in this download along with all the files needed to root the device
http://www.thedroiddemos.com/downloads/gtab/root.zip
i'm using the USB adaptor and FAT 32 memory sticks to get my data onto the tab. It's worked fine for me, not as easy as syncing with itunes and iphone but it works simply enough.
Kies is a joke. I managed to get some pics onto my tab, but they were all scrambled. It wouldn't find any video's to transfer. WIFI explorer didn't work for me either but I'm glad the USB adaptor worked for me and it's a hell of a lot quicker than WIFI.
'TCommander' - Worked a Treat. Thank you
A good alternative is using ES File Explorer and adding other computers on your home wifi network. Then you can browse files from your computer(s) from your Tab.
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A good alternative is using ES File Explorer and adding other computers on your home wifi network. Then you can browse files from your computer(s) from your Tab.
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First I used the SD adaptor but the speed is poor, but far better as wi-fi. Now I use a HDD via usb-adaptor and keep my files on the HDD. Copy big files to the tab is a nightmare imo.
is there any decent program that can turn my SGS2 into a external Wifi HardDrive that works just like my external hardrive that connected strait to my home network?
I expect you could achieve this by using a samba server on the phone and mapping a network drive on your computer.
The first result from Googling was this.
Moved to proper section.
Hi,
I have a HTC Sensation XL running ICS, the device is not rooted. Does anyone know of any apps that I can use to remotely access a hard disc attached to my home router?
What I want to achieve is kind of my own cloud storage system, I have seen these networked hard drives that attach directly to your broadband router rather than being inside a P.C and then computers on the home network can access this hard drive via the router, kind of like a central storage area for every one in the household. Well I want to set up the same thing but with the added bonus of being able to access the HDD when I am out of the house as well, via my phone or android tablet. I spend a lot of time in the country on my own and fill my devices with music and films etc and basically I want to access my entire library of media remotely. I have tried drop box, sugar sync, Skydrive etc but they do not provide any where near enough storage space for my needs, at least not for free and if I can achieve the above I will not be limited by the storage capacity of the device.
I currently use Pocketcloud to access files on my PC when I am away from home and this is fine for when the computer is turned on but when its not obviously I cant access anything, my theory is that a HDD connected directly to my router would be accessible 24 hours day as it should be independent of my PC, the question is how to actually set this up.
I have tried using ES File explorer to detect my home network but it wont for some reason, I was hoping that if I got it to find my network it might allow me to do the above however I could be wrong so any advice that people could give regarding this would be great.
Thanks
Ben
Hi guys,
since I'm new to Sony Z* I don't actually know, what is the best way to transfer data to my internal/external sd cards?
I would like to not use cables to leave the docks closed.
So Bluetooth or Wifi would be the next options, while Bluetooth might be a bit slow for lage file transfers I guess.
So is there any easy way to transfer data between the Z2 and a pc ofer wifi? The best thing would be, if no third party software on the pc is required.
deepflash said:
Hi guys,
since I'm new to Sony Z* I don't actually know, what is the best way to transfer data to my internal/external sd cards?
I would like to not use cables to leave the docks closed.
So Bluetooth or Wifi would be the next options, while Bluetooth might be a bit slow for lage file transfers I guess.
So is there any easy way to transfer data between the Z2 and a pc ofer wifi? The best thing would be, if no third party software on the pc is required.
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Try Airdroid, it's the best app AFAIK.
Note that because of a restriction introduced by Kitkat, wireless data transfer can not be done directly to the external SDcard. The Airdroid team is currently working to try to overcome this issue.
deepflash said:
Hi guys,
since I'm new to Sony Z* I don't actually know, what is the best way to transfer data to my internal/external sd cards?
I would like to not use cables to leave the docks closed.
So Bluetooth or Wifi would be the next options, while Bluetooth might be a bit slow for lage file transfers I guess.
So is there any easy way to transfer data between the Z2 and a pc ofer wifi? The best thing would be, if no third party software on the pc is required.
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If you goto settings, Xperia Connectivity, USB Connectivity, you can pair your device with your computer (the phone will give you instructions), once the phone is paired with your computer you can simply goto the same menu, tap the name for your computer, and you will then be able to transfer files as if you had connected by USB in Media Transfer Mode all over wifi.
TheOnlyIntruder said:
If you goto settings, Xperia Connectivity, USB Connectivity, you can pair your device with your computer (the phone will give you instructions), once the phone is paired with your computer you can simply goto the same menu, tap the name for your computer, and you will then be able to transfer files as if you had connected by USB in Media Transfer Mode all over wifi.
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I didn't notice this new feature, it works fine
Thanks!!
But a toggle would be great to enable the connection.
TheOnlyIntruder said:
If you goto settings, Xperia Connectivity, USB Connectivity, you can pair your device with your computer (the phone will give you instructions), once the phone is paired with your computer you can simply goto the same menu, tap the name for your computer, and you will then be able to transfer files as if you had connected by USB in Media Transfer Mode all over wifi.
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That sounds very cool. How is the data transferred? Not all of my PCs have Bluetooth, so I'm hoping it's not via bluetooth...
EDIT: woops, should have read the last word...."over wifi"
TheOnlyIntruder said:
If you goto settings, Xperia Connectivity, USB Connectivity, you can pair your device with your computer (the phone will give you instructions), once the phone is paired with your computer you can simply goto the same menu, tap the name for your computer, and you will then be able to transfer files as if you had connected by USB in Media Transfer Mode all over wifi.
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Thanks for mentioning. This will work great at my home I guess, but not at my office pc which is connected to a different wifi network.
I would have to open a Wifi Hotspot on my Z2 and let the PC connect to it to make it still work.
deepflash said:
Thanks for mentioning. This will work great at my home I guess, but not at my office pc which is connected to a different wifi network.
I would have to open a Wifi Hotspot on my Z2 and let the PC connect to it to make it still work.
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I don't think it matters which network you join, since the pairing is based on the MAC address on each device (An example would be you could still pair with your home computer even if your computer was connected to a different network) unless you're not allowed to have your phone connect to your work's wifi?
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unless you're not allowed to have your phone connect to your work's wifi?
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That's the point
unfortunately this doesn't seem to be working for me =/ it just says "connecting" for a long time, and then tells me it could not connect to the network. this is after the message saying the pairing is a success...
SexyIceCream said:
unfortunately this doesn't seem to be working for me =/ it just says "connecting" for a long time, and then tells me it could not connect to the network. this is after the message saying the pairing is a success...
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This has happened to me too but usually happens if the phone has gone to sleep after it has been connected already, I also think stamina mode blocks the connection while the phone is in sleep. Try turning the wifi off (remember to disconnect from the PC first) and back on and then reconnect but ensure the screen stays on/phone stays awake, once you've done your tasks disconnect from the pc, otherwise it'll eventually as I like to say "forget it's connected while still reporting it is connected".
If it's still not working, try re-pairing and after repeating the above tasks and it's still not working, check your router configuration and/or your pc's network connection settings including any firewalls.
Thats about the best information I can offer really so if it doesn't work after all that I'm not sure what else that can be done.
TheOnlyIntruder said:
This has happened to me too but usually happens if the phone has gone to sleep after it has been connected already, I also think stamina mode blocks the connection while the phone is in sleep. Try turning the wifi off (remember to disconnect from the PC first) and back on and then reconnect but ensure the screen stays on/phone stays awake, once you've done your tasks disconnect from the pc, otherwise it'll eventually as I like to say "forget it's connected while still reporting it is connected".
If it's still not working, try re-pairing and after repeating the above tasks and it's still not working, check your router configuration and/or your pc's network connection settings including any firewalls.
Thats about the best information I can offer really so if it doesn't work after all that I'm not sure what else that can be done.
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lol silly me. the pc was connected via the wire but not to the network(forgot about it since it's been on wired since the start)
thanks for the tip! :highfive:
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lol silly me. the pc was connected via the wire but not to the network(forgot about it since it's been on wired since the start)
thanks for the tip! :highfive:
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No problem, glad I helped
Does anyone know if this feature still works after rooting? I really like it and don't want to lose it!
TheOnlyIntruder said:
If you goto settings, Xperia Connectivity, USB Connectivity, you can pair your device with your computer (the phone will give you instructions), once the phone is paired with your computer you can simply goto the same menu, tap the name for your computer, and you will then be able to transfer files as if you had connected by USB in Media Transfer Mode all over wifi.
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This feature only works on Windows. Do you know how to configure "Sony bridge for Mac" connect wirelessly like on Windows or any solution for Mac OS?
JMonkeYJ said:
Does anyone know if this feature still works after rooting? I really like it and don't want to lose it!
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Yes, still working
But I prefer using Airdroid, it's much faster.
how to maximise transfer speed?
a question for networking gurus - i am currently on a 1 Gbps line. No doubt, international speeds will never reach that. However, tests to a local server do indicate that i can obtain around 400+ Mbps = around 50 MB/s (a very rough calculation, but for convenience let's just go with it)
However, i tried transferring a 1.5gb file using the xperia z2's wireless usb function, which indicated that around 17 minutes would be needed. that works out to only about 1.4 MB/s. If even a test connection through the internet can reach 50MB/s, why would a connection to my phone(right beside my comp) be only 1.4 MB/s ?
I'm sure the Z2 can handle faster speeds than that....would really be great if someone could give me a tip! thanks :highfive:
SexyIceCream said:
a question for networking gurus - i am currently on a 1 Gbps line. No doubt, international speeds will never reach that. However, tests to a local server do indicate that i can obtain around 400+ Mbps = around 50 MB/s (a very rough calculation, but for convenience let's just go with it)
However, i tried transferring a 1.5gb file using the xperia z2's wireless usb function, which indicated that around 17 minutes would be needed. that works out to only about 1.4 MB/s. If even a test connection through the internet can reach 50MB/s, why would a connection to my phone(right beside my comp) be only 1.4 MB/s ?
I'm sure the Z2 can handle faster speeds than that....would really be great if someone could give me a tip! thanks :highfive:
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The Z2 isn't able to copy the content so fast on the SDcard. The I/O performance just isn't so great to handle 50MB/sec.
Jackos said:
The Z2 isn't able to copy the content so fast on the SDcard. The I/O performance just isn't so great to handle 50MB/sec.
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Thanks for the explanation! I was just looking for solution to this problem as file transfer has been extremely slow.
Does that mean buying a fast SD card is pure waste of money? :crying: I just paid $169 for the fastest SD I could find in store...
jeremy.shi said:
Thanks for the explanation! I was just looking for solution to this problem as file transfer has been extremely slow.
Does that mean buying a fast SD card is pure waste of money? :crying: I just paid $169 for the fastest SD I could find in store...
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In my opinion yes. I barely notice any change between my slow Kingston Class 10 MicroSDXC card and my SanDisk Extreme.
Also benchmarks show there is little change. No need to overpay for fast cards unless you're going to use them in a PC card reader with USB3.0.