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Hi,
HTC flyer user here - using it as a telephone
I've just read that there should be automatic upgrade for HTC Flyer for Europe withing few weeks. My flyer (as probably most of You here) is rooted and S-OFF'ed.
Here's the history :
1. Bought HTC Flyer
2. HBOOT version was 1.07 so it was not supported by revolutionary.io tool
3. Automatically upgraded to newest software by gingerbread's built-in update so HBOOT changed to 1.10 so i could ROOT and S-OFF my flyer
Now here comes the question - what will happen if Honeycomb update appears ? Can I safely do it without any danger that my tablet will become brick or something ? Will it still be S-OFF'ed ?
regards
I don't know how senior and experienced users think but to my thought, it original FOTA update may result an error for s-off and rooted Flyer. 2 weeks ago when I was using my Flyer like you do, there appeared an OTA update and I said "yes" by mistake. It gave an error, resulting a problem in the GSM interface (like "call" or "stop call" keys disappeared etc)
Better to s-on and unroot to apply an original FOTA.
Please share your news source.
If you install a OTA RUU you will certainly lose s-off and root. I'm sure there will be custom installs, non-ota that will fix root and s-off. In fact the current HC leak is already rooted,
So if I download theatest leak and run it I will be rooted?
Yes it's already rooted
I have S-OFF and had issues installing the OTA security fix last month. I had to downloading it officially (as if I were going to complete the OTA) and then select 'install later'
Booted into recovery and then installed the zip (in downloads) from there. It seemed to work okay..
adaimespechip said:
I have S-OFF and had issues installing the OTA security fix last month. I had to downloading it officially (as if I were going to complete the OTA) and then select 'install later'
Booted into recovery and then installed the zip (in downloads) from there. It seemed to work okay..
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Hmm, that might be a good way of installing OTAs. Thanks for that hint.
DigitalMD said:
Please share your news source.
If you install a OTA RUU you will certainly lose s-off and root. I'm sure there will be custom installs, non-ota that will fix root and s-off. In fact the current HC leak is already rooted,
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Root maybe, S-OFF no. We have overwrite protection in the Revolutionary hboots
You'd have to dd in an unsigned stock hboot to overwrite the revolutionary hboot.
globatron said:
Root maybe, S-OFF no. We have overwrite protection ine the Revolutionary hboots
You'd have to dd in an unsigned stock hboot to overwrite the revolutionary hboot.
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HUmm, you are correct. Won't that cause a boot issue if you manage to install a OTA that requires a different hboot?
DigitalMD said:
HUmm, you are correct. Won't that cause a boot issue if you manage to install a OTA that requires a different hboot?
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It could but you don't really want an OTA that steals S-OFF anyway, far better to have to restore your backup and make a decision to go back to a stock HBOOT than possibly to permanently lose S-OFF. It's not such a big deal with the new hboots and the unlocker, but before that would mean the end of root, custom recovery and full backups.
I'm unlocked but not s-off.
stock HTC Sense build that came with phone
Android 4.0.3
Sense 4.0
Software version 1.13.651.1
HTC SDK 4.2
So I've searched all over and its so scattered i don't know what to make of it.
If i take ota update what happens given my above specs? Lose root? Perm loss of s-off but can still root?
If it removes root privileges as a result or whatever, is there a method to get root back after the ota so i can wifi tether, etc?
If i don't take ota update is there a hacked zip package available i can run in recovery to get it up to date without causing ill effects?
And most importantly, going to a newer hboot and 4.0.4, does the end justify the means? Is there must haves in it that far out weigh the encumbrance of the process?
I know the easiest thing is go custom ROM, but I'm not looking to reinstall everything so that's why I'm hoping i can just ota or equivalent.
Thanks for any help!
Things are less of a hassle if you s-off your phone. I suggest you do that and then you can flash away. Never take an ota, not worth the risk.
metalfan78 said:
Things are less of a hassle if you s-off your phone. I suggest you do that and then you can flash away. Never take an ota, not worth the risk.
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^^^^^^ Agreed never take an OTA and go S-OFF while you still can alot of guys would kill to have your phone and have the ability to get S-OFF
Here's the stuff you gotta do to update firmware if you don't get s-off
Relock hboot and run ruu
Unlock hboot
Reflash recovery
Reflash superuser and busybox or custom rom
Or
Restore stock rom and recovery
Relock bootloader
Accept ota
Unlock hboot
Reflash recovery
Reflash superuser and busybox or custom rom
Do yourself a favor and get s-off
I made the mistake of thinking I would stay stock and not unlock my phone since I got the LTE. I should have know I would be right back to XDA devs. I did the OTA and now have to deal with not getting s-off fast booting my new kernals
s-off does sound the way to go and was my next step. You completely convinced me what direction I need to go.
Thanks for the replies so far!
Hello all,
A while back, I rooted my friends Evo 4G LTE. That obviously involved unlocking the phone, flashing TWRP, then flashing the RegawRooter zip. I did not go through the process to get S-OFF, as he had no interest in running a custom rom. His rom build is 3.15.651.16. Shortly afterwards, the update to 3.16.651.3 came out. After searching the forums and elsewhere, I can't seem to find a definitive answer as to whether or not if it is safe to update to 3.16.651.3.
If I update, will it brick the phone?
If I update, will I have to re-unlock the bootloader, flash TWRP again, and re-root?
Again, we don't really care about getting S-OFF, so if this update contains an HBOOT that isn't downgradable, we don't really care.
If you have any insight as to what I have to do, I'd appreciate it. It was extremely frustrating to get to this point compared to my Optimus G, and if possible, I'd love to not have to go through the whole unlocking and flashing all over again.
You should not brick his phone by doing the OTA. You will have to relock the bootloader and flash a stock recovery before you can do the OTA.
Yes you will have to unlock and flash twrp again
I would highly suggest going the S-OFF route it will save a lot of headaches down the road. HTC is making it harder with every OTA to do anything to our phones.With S-OFF you can at least stay current with the firmware/radios without flashing any custom roms. That will all be done manually thanks to Captain_Throwback picking through the OTA's and removing the stuff we don't want. But you have to be S-OFF to utilize that method.
FacePalm in the Original Development takes about 5 minutes to complete and is super easy but will not work on the newest OTA 3.16
Any questions feel free to PM me
My device is stock, unrooted, S-On, AT&T. I want to get the new software pieces from the OTA update without taking the actual OTA itself because I do not want to update HBoot in case I decide to do S-Off again in the future. Is there a file or set of files I can install from the outside? Or can I flash just the new radio, or even get the phone to quit bugging me about the update?
My HBoot is 1.44, May 2013. My roommate has the same setup but he took the OTA and now his HBoot is 1.44, June 2013 and revone doesn't work on that version.
K.AuthoR said:
My device is stock, unrooted, S-On, AT&T. I want to get the new software pieces from the OTA update without taking the actual OTA itself because I do not want to update HBoot in case I decide to do S-Off again in the future. Is there a file or set of files I can install from the outside? Or can I flash just the new radio, or even get the phone to quit bugging me about the update?
My HBoot is 1.44, May 2013. My roommate has the same setup but he took the OTA and now his HBoot is 1.44, June 2013 and revone doesn't work on that version.
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Just flash the stock 1.26.502.15 ROM from this thread. It doesn't contain any firmware files so your firmware will remain untouched.
K.AuthoR said:
My device is stock, unrooted, S-On, AT&T. I want to get the new software pieces from the OTA update without taking the actual OTA itself because I do not want to update HBoot in case I decide to do S-Off again in the future. Is there a file or set of files I can install from the outside? Or can I flash just the new radio, or even get the phone to quit bugging me about the update?
My HBoot is 1.44, May 2013. My roommate has the same setup but he took the OTA and now his HBoot is 1.44, June 2013 and revone doesn't work on that version.
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I wouldn't wait to s-off if I were you. That update will end up running when you least expect it and then you're done.
jdk2 said:
I wouldn't wait to s-off if I were you. That update will end up running when you least expect it and then you're done.
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I might as well.
My concern is, if I S-Off, can I then accept the OTA? Or how could I go about updating everything EXCEPT for HBoot?
K.AuthoR said:
I might as well.
My concern is, if I S-Off, can I then accept the OTA? Or how could I go about updating everything EXCEPT for HBoot?
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S-Off doesn't affect OTA's. You just need stock recovery to accept them. But if that update installs to your phone, there's no telling when S-Off may be available. Once you're S-Off, you can flash anything and you'll remain S-Off.
jdk2 said:
S-Off doesn't affect OTA's. You just need stock recovery to accept them. But if that update installs to your phone, there's no telling when S-Off may be available. Once you're S-Off, you can flash anything and you'll remain S-Off.
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Gotcha, excellent!
(first HTC Android device after coming from nothing but Nexus devices, so HTC's setup is totally foreign to me)
I just went ahead with the S-Off. Am I good to accept this OTA or will this override HBoot / return me to S-On? Or what if it runs while I'm asleep one night, would that screw me?
K.AuthoR said:
Gotcha, excellent!
(first HTC Android device after coming from nothing but Nexus devices, so HTC's setup is totally foreign to me)
I just went ahead with the S-Off. Am I good to accept this OTA or will this override HBoot / return me to S-On? Or what if it runs while I'm asleep one night, would that screw me?
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Once you're S-Off, you remain S-Off until you change it. Accepting OTA at this point won't change that.
You can also manually update firmware and ROM.
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ilal2ielli said:
Once you're S-Off, you remain S-Off until you change it. Accepting OTA at this point won't change that.
You can also manually update firmware and ROM.
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Question, I understand the need for stock recovery to attain the OTA. I'm already s-off and Super CID and the like. What I'd like to know is the best method for flashing just the stock recovery to receive the OTA. Also, would having the device rooted, with bloatware removed, effect the device in any way, during installation of the OTA, or after?
Or on the other hand, would it just be best to manual flash the rom from here? I'd like to pretty much attain the all of the aspects of the rom, including firmware, radio etc. I'm wary of changing the H-Boot, even though i'm already s-off. I'd hate to fall into a situation later where I need to go s-on, then turn around and want to do s-off again, but can't, because of the h-boot change. I am trying to read up on everything as best as i can, but some of it is quite confusing, and i don't keep up with the forums like I used to. So I'd totally apprecate a little clarification. thanks.
if i S-off and root and install a Rom will i still be able to get OTA and will taking the OTA brick my phone or Put it back to S-on and Stock
or should i S-On then take the new 4.2 or 4.3 ota when it comes
isu8023 said:
if i S-off and root and install a Rom will i still be able to get OTA and will taking the OTA brick my phone or Put it back to S-on and Stock
or should i S-On then take the new 4.2 or 4.3 ota when it comes
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No, you cannot get an OTA while on a custom ROM, therefore, it cannot brick your device. And the only way to get back to s-on is to intentionally give the command to do so. Cannot be done by an OTA. If you get s-off and want to take an update, you will need to be totally stock to do so. However, you DO NOT need to go back to s-on.
From my S-Off BadSeed DNA
Stock only
OTA updates are for STOCK only, and do not affect the S-OFF/S-ON of your phone.
I hear an echo.
From my S-Off BadSeed DNA
If you THINK you might want root and/or s-off, you should definitely do it BEFORE the update. Updates tend to block currently known rooting/s-off methods.
If you do root/s-off, then the update will not affect your device. You COULD choose to go s-on and take the update at any future point.
Most people that have rooted and have s-off will NOT take want the update, instead we will wait for one of the dev's to grab the update and adapt it to be used on a rooted / s-off device. Generally, in less than 1 day of VZW pushing the update, there will be a base rom available for s-off users to install that is basically the OEM update with a few minor variations (root added etc). Within 2-3 days, there will be more custom roms available that are based on the update. (Most the of popular roms that are being used right now are actually based on the HTC One update that was already released.)